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Not really, no. Not once did you make even the semblance of addressing that the incident was not ideal, instead derailing into pure whataboutery and ad hominems (and not even against NS). You may choose to view it as "being asked to apologize for something you didn't do", when we had actually agreed we just wanted you to agree that the incident was obviously not part of an ideal world and that we should find a way to make sure it did not happen again. As long as you want to talk about "magical audacity" -- it's part of the site rules the community agreed to, and it's a process ''I myself'' have contritely submitted to for far lesser infractions. | Not really, no. Not once did you make even the semblance of addressing that the incident was not ideal, instead derailing into pure whataboutery and ad hominems (and not even against NS). You may choose to view it as "being asked to apologize for something you didn't do", when we had actually agreed we just wanted you to agree that the incident was obviously not part of an ideal world and that we should find a way to make sure it did not happen again. As long as you want to talk about "magical audacity" -- it's part of the site rules the community agreed to, and it's a process ''I myself'' have contritely submitted to for far lesser infractions. | ||
I hope you can eventually be honest and stop pretending your overt, non-constructive and non-wiki-related tirade against Ninja was | I hope you can eventually be honest and stop pretending your overt, non-constructive and non-wiki-related tirade against Ninja was an attack on her. It's very unimpressive that you continue to try to paint it as perfectly friendly "taps on the shoulder asking what time it is" -- you know damn well you were trying to hurt her feelings, and you know damn well you didn't have even the barest shred of "this must be done to get articles written" to justify it. I don't really care whether you feel shame or seek atonement, and I think I made that clear in the discussion - I care that you're grown up enough to concede that the behavior should not happen again, and focus on de-escalating instead of constantly getting into pissing contests. | ||
"Smart and rational" thing would be, at the bare minimum, proposing a way to keep the incident from happening again, not devolving into bizarre insults and glorifying the incident as some kind of last stand against tyranny. I'm not going to even try to suggest that it would still work at this point -- while I'm committed to always extending new chances to someone who makes the meanest attempt at compromise, you may very well have burned your bridges with the rest of the community. I dunno. We'll see or we won't, but if there ''is'' a way forward, it would be absolutely contingent on you at least admitting there is an issue in the first place.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:10, 1 June 2016 (UTC) | "Smart and rational" thing would be, at the bare minimum, proposing a way to keep the incident from happening again, not devolving into bizarre insults and glorifying the incident as some kind of last stand against tyranny. I'm not going to even try to suggest that it would still work at this point -- while I'm committed to always extending new chances to someone who makes the meanest attempt at compromise, you may very well have burned your bridges with the rest of the community. I dunno. We'll see or we won't, but if there ''is'' a way forward, it would be absolutely contingent on you at least admitting there is an issue in the first place.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:10, 1 June 2016 (UTC) | ||
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:::::I give you my word regarding the whole "interaction ban" thing. The second I break that word, do as you see fit. --[[User:Webber22|Webber22]] ([[User talk:Webber22|talk]]) 02:33, 2 June 2016 (UTC) | :::::I give you my word regarding the whole "interaction ban" thing. The second I break that word, do as you see fit. --[[User:Webber22|Webber22]] ([[User talk:Webber22|talk]]) 02:33, 2 June 2016 (UTC) | ||
I completely oppose an "interaction ban", it's the most ridiculous idea. The wiki should ''not'' appease the childish behaviour of someone, who is incapable of showing restraint in front of a person he dislikes (for whatever bizarre reason that hatred stems from). If you haven't learnt how to work with people you don't get along with, don't come here. An interaction ban is very impractical, as TSH said, and enforcing something like that would eventually create more drama and an unhappy, tense atmosphere that will drive people away from the wiki. The criteria for you returning to the wiki was a serious resolve to change ''yourself'' to avoid the same mistakes. However, your recent messages have taken away my optimism that you might do this. After a long passage of time, you ''might'' (and I say that without much faith) change your way of thinking. Therefore, I advocate that the ''minimum'' length of the ban should still be a year. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 14:24, 2 June 2016 (UTC) | I completely oppose an "interaction ban", it's the most ridiculous idea. The wiki should ''not'' appease the childish behaviour of someone, who is incapable of showing restraint in front of a person he dislikes (for whatever bizarre reason that hatred stems from). If you haven't learnt how to work with people you don't get along with, don't come here. An interaction ban is very impractical, as TSH said, and enforcing something like that would eventually create more drama and an unhappy, tense atmosphere that will drive people away from the wiki. The criteria for you returning to the wiki was a serious resolve to change ''yourself'' to avoid the same mistakes. However, your recent messages have taken away my optimism that you might do this. After a long passage of time, you ''might'' (and I say that without much faith) change your way of thinking. Therefore, I advocate that the ''minimum'' length of the ban should still be a year. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 14:24, 2 June 2016 (UTC) | ||
