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== Track Plates ==
== Mirage Arena 2018 ==
are we ready for it this year? [[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 08:52, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
:It seems the Union Cup is finished (at least on this wiki), so I suppose we could start the Mirage Arena again. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:44, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
::so we need some nominations [[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 06:55, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
:::things are getting slow at the Mirage arena. we got only two nominations after the time limit [[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 03:52, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
::::I'll extend the time limit to this Friday, and try to come up with a couple fights myself. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:56, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
:::::can you do today's battle? thnx u [[User:Kunoichi101|Kunoichi101]] ([[User talk:Kunoichi101|talk]]) 08:20, 3 March 2018 (UTC)
::::::Almost forgot. I've set the battle until the 16th. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:01, 4 March 2018 (UTC)


And done. All are now missing the text, resized, and universally aligned. Also uploaded a few I missed before. So mind telling me what you're planning on cooking up here lol? --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 05:44, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
==Note==
:Amazing work, thanks! And I'm glad you asked, because I'm super excited about this. So, I was planning an infobox for the MoM tracks, and I wanted to do something cool with those track plates by having the song title display on it. With (a lot of) help from Porple, we now have the actual font and we can make the text scrollable if it's too long, so it looks just like in the game! (The reason I wanted you to make all images the same size is that the text will show up in the same place for all of them.) Let me give you an example:
Nice work on the Castle Oblivion and Destiny Islands pages for Chain of Memories. However I did notice that you did not put any the information down for Reverse/Rebirth in regards to the Cards that Riku collects, namely Zexion in Destiny Islands and Lexaeus in the Castle Oblivion Hallways. Perhaps finding a way to list them as well as the enemy cards that Riku gains in most of the levels would be a good solution, such as making a section exclusive for Riku to avoid any confusion with the Cards collected in Sora's game -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 19:29, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
<div style="display:inline-block" style="margin-bottom:-20px">[[File:Track Plate (Keyblade Graveyard 2) KG KHMOM.png|300px]]<div class="scroll-container" style="width:225px; height:20px; position:relative; top:-42px; left:45px; z-index:10">
:Yeah, I still need to work on that. I'm thinking of adding Riku's deck for each world, since I don't think we have them listed anywhere yet. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 21:36, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
<div class="scroll" style="color:white; text-shadow:1px 1px #000; font-size:19px; font-family:DFGSoGei">Doesn't this just look amazing?!</div></div></div>
::Just remember regarding Riku's deck, there are some differences between CoM and Re:CoM, particularly where some of the Item Cards and the Darkball Enemy Card is concerned. Probably just do the basic way and use the simple link tags for any version exclusives. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 22:42, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
 
P.S.: The font is now installed on the wiki, in case you want to use it somewhere. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 10:58, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
:Holy crap that looks awesome! I took felt that the plates were kind of wasted just sitting in world galleries, but this is taking it to the next level lol. P.S. If you want to add an extra touch of authenticity, ask Porple if it's possible to add a drop shadow to font. Aprox 55 degrees, size 0, 2-3 pixel space. :) --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 15:30, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
:Just out of curiosity, are these planned to be implemented wikiwide? Or are they just for your userpage? --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 04:36, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
::They will be used on Game: pages for each track. I'm just designing the infobox in my userspace. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 11:04, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
 
== are Heartless on the Heartless page out of order ==
 
Some Heartless on the Heartless page appear to be out of order. Some are not with their variations in accordance to their own pages (such as the Armor Heartless from 358/2 Days, Wily Bandit, Huge Snowman, Ferocious Fins, Shipwreck Shark, Icy Beast, Royal Pretender, Poisonous Pretender, and Ratty Rat Trio) while others are in other variations (such as Diver being with the Air Soldier and Toy Trooper even though its own page lists it as a variation of the Soldier Heartless). Should we fix this?[[User:Ctc1017|Ctc1017]] ([[User talk:Ctc1017|talk]]) 20:25, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
:The Armor Heartless should be with the Large Body, yes. The KHUX Heartless you mentioned are boss-type Heartless, which are put at the bottom (though there's not a real distinction between regular and boss enemies in KHUX), and I guess the Diver has been misplaced. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 22:33, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
::Where should the Diver be? With the Soldier variations or the Air Soldier variations? I have a similar problem with Toy Trooper since nobody has listed it as a variation of either Soldier or Air Soldier. I also believe the Defender variations should be before the Wyvern variations in line with how the Defender is listed before the Wyvern in Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories. Also the Flappy Bug Swarm, Gold Hammer Frame, Silver Hammer Frame, Reversed Defender, and Upright Defender are listed as bosses in the Heartless boss directory, but are not in bold text and all but the Flappy Bug Swarm are listed with basic Heartless even though they are boss-type Heartless. Should the Gold Hammer Frame, Silver Hammer Frame, Reversed Defender, and Upright Defender be moved downwards with the other boss Heartless on the page.[[User:Ctc1017|Ctc1017]] ([[User talk:Ctc1017|talk]]) 01:05, 28 February 2021 (UTC)
:::The Diver should be with the Soldier variations. I'm not sure about the Toy Trooper myself. I can see how it looks a little like the Air Soldier (pre-KH3), especially with the goggles, but Soldiers and Air Soldiers all have claws and the Toy Trooper has normal hands, so it might be a unique Heartless.
:::Yes, the in-game order is Defender, Wyvern, Wizard, so we should follow that.
:::Like I said, the distinction between regular and boss Heartless in KHUX is pretty vague. I think it would be better to only count Raid Bosses as boss-type, and all others as regulars.
:::While you're at it, I noticed the Nimble Bee and Stinging Bee were with the Queen Bee, but they should be with the regular Heartless. Also, I don't think the Bizarre Archer is a variation of the KHUX Archers.
:::You know, maybe it would be easier to change the whole order to list them by first appearance instead of variations. But that would need to be discussed on the talk page first. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 13:42, 28 February 2021 (UTC)


== Fly-by/By Knight ==
To help you with Riku's Deck for Hollow Bastion, he uses a Potion card that has a number 9, but only in the original Chain of Memories. Just remember except for Castle Oblivion, the worlds where the Item Cards are part of his Deck are different between the original and remake versions of the game. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 15:13, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks and remember the Item Card page can be used to help you with this process since I updated it long ago when I using both the original CoM and the remake during a giant playthrough. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 18:30, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
::I checked the original CoM game for the decks, and I'm using the Ultimania for the ReCoM decks, so I think I should have all the correct information. But if you see anything that isn't right, be sure to tell me, or change it yourself. And it seems some decks are completely different between versions, so I'll have to tab those instead of using the game tags. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:42, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
:I am taking care of the handling Darkball card, and the values of the other item cards right now for you. Also to help me identify the Potion Card for Hallow Bastion in CoM without need to use my Game copy, I simply used a Youtube video from World of Longplays.-[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 18:49, 3 February 2018 (UTC)


I wasn't aware it was in KHuX, since that's the most recent one, (medal was released Jan 2021) should we use lowercase? (Unless we go by KHuX release date.) I can go through the trouble of reestablishing the lowercase if need be. {{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 21:43, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
On a different note for Sora's Story, when Reverse/Rebirth is completed and the new cards can be collected in Castle Oblivion, they generally are always collected in a pre-arranged order, it always goes from Ultima Weapon, Lexaeus, and then Ansem (CoM only) in that particular order. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 19:09, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
:Hmm, I'm not sure. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:06, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
:All right. I'll add that to the table. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 19:26, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
::Lastly I should note that the Room of Rewards was known as the Hidden Chamber in CoM. If you choose to, it can also be noted as a reference note, but either way is fine. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 19:39, 3 February 2018 (UTC)


== Integrum Masterpiece ==
Another thing I have just been made aware of and confirmed personally is for the HD release only, the Riku Enemy Card has been renamed
as the Riku Replica card. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 20:17, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
:Yeah, I was the one who added that to the page. As for the Room of Rewards, I don't think it's necessary to use both names. I think people get which room is meant. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 20:50, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
:Okay. Also I made sure to note the original CoM on the Enemy Card page for the Riku Card (which I verified first). Do you think it should be left like that for the treasures on the Castle Oblivion page or updated? -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 00:11, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
::I changed it to the most recent name. I just checked the GBA game, and the Maleficent card is named "Dragon Maleficent" there, but it's called "Maleficent" on the page. Can you check the other versions to see what it's called there? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:13, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
:::All versions of Re:Chain of Memories are confirmed as "Dragon Maleficent". -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 22:38, 4 February 2018 (UTC)


This is regarding the [[Kingdom_Hearts_Integrum_Masterpiece|Integrum Masterpieces]] page you put up earlier. Typically when we have a collection like this, we either put up the logo or the box-art in the infobox, but this one has neither. ''However'', each individual collection/game ''does'' have its own slightly unique cloud version logo. I was wondering, is it possible to set up a tabber in the infobox that can toggle the logo being displayed? Like a...like a keyblade infobox? --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 02:44, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
Also on the same note Jafar's card was called Jafar-Genie. Makes sense since these cards represent Jafar and Maleficent's transformed states. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 22:55, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
:That should be possible, yes. I can add it later. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 11:20, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
::Very cool. The logos were uploaded some time ago, over in [https://www.khwiki.com/Category:Logo_images logo images]. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 20:23, 20 January 2022 (UTC)
::I think it looks better to display the three images together like this, rather than using tabs. What do you think? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 11:21, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
:::Ehhhh... I dunno. If you're gonna display all three logos, why not just use the [https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/kingdom-hearts-integrum-masterpiece-for-cloud-switch/ store image] then? --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 15:42, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
::::Maybe that would be better, since it's used officially. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:05, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
:::::I agree, since I've seen a similar bundle pack image used for the Mega Man 30th Anniversary bundle pack on the Mega Man wiki, and that was just from the same thing of sourcing the image on the Playstation and Microsoft Online stores which I helped with the sourcing back then. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 18:16, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
::::::I'll second - or third - that. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 20:39, 21 January 2022 (UTC)


== Re Mind Infobox ==
Now that I think about it, if you decide to in the future, you could eventually work towards making a Map Card section for Reverse/Rebirth, only on the grounds that not all the Map Cards are available in Riku's game and that a card like Mingling Worlds is collected much earlier in Riku's game when compared to Sora's. That should be the only main aspect of Riku's game that is left. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 16:20, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
:Thanks for checking those. Jafar's card is just called "Jafar" in the GBA version, though. For the Riku Map Cards, I don't think I've seen a table for it in the Ultimania, but I could check again. If there isn't, there isn't much information I can put on the pages. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:49, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
::Yeah, probably not add the percentage rates and just add which map cards can appear is the next best thing. At least with the ReCoM-exclusive map cards there really is no difference between Riku and Sora since they both can use them. The only thing to worry about is which cards appear in which worlds. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 19:44, 5 February 2018 (UTC)


So I...admit that I haven't been around here that much lately and I've been quite a bit out of the loop lol. But I just noticed that Re Mind's infobox has been changed to the regular game default one. I tweaked that one (and colored to green) when I worked on the page way back when specifically to differentiate it as a DLC expansion rather than an actual game and for future uses with other stuff that might need it. So...like, what's changed? Why, and ''when'' lol? --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 14:56, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
==Question==
:Well, since a little while ago we have a new style template to use for infoboxes and tables to give the wiki a more consistent color scheme, where each game gets its own colors. So everything related to KH3 uses the same colors. And as such, both templates would be identical, which is why I changed it to the game one. I hadn't considered the game/DLC differentiation, to be honest, so maybe we could do something different besides the colors. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:41, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
The only issue with the KH3 template right now is the Buzz Lightyear link which is a redirect due to previous attempt of adding Buzz and Woody to KHII. Would it be better to delete it, or just convert it to a regular page with some material written as a stopgap solution until the game comes out or just leave it alone? -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 19:18, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
:I think it's best to leave it alone for now. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 19:22, 20 February 2018 (UTC)


==Kingdom Hearts 3 Keyblade images==
==HAPPY BIRTHDAY!==
I noticed that several images in the Keyblades infoboxes still don't have images from 3. Should they still be there?--[[User:Yellowlightning1996|Yellowlightning1996]] ([[User talk:Yellowlightning1996|talk]]) 04:21, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
Happy birthday, TheSilentHero! :D I hope you're having a wonderful day in celebration of your birth.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:52, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
:We should try to get these images, but I'll modify the template so it doesn't show a red link if we don't have the image. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 13:44, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
:Happy Birthday, TSH! {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 21:55, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
::Thanks! {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 22:22, 7 April 2018 (UTC)


== Wiki redesign ==
== Image sizes ==


Just a quick heads up, but I've started on a new layout design inspired by/based on the 20th Anniversary. Current layout is based on Melody of Memory and it seems about time to retire it. Are there any particular elements or concepts you want, or should I just have at it? --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 17:53, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
I tried uploading a new, bigger image of Kairi from KH, but the size of the image still appears the same, even though the dimensions claim to be bigger. [[User:SuperGamecube|SuperGamecube]] ([[User talk:SuperGamecube|talk]]) 18:54, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
:I can't think of anything at the moment, so surprise me. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:56, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
:Have you tried refreshing the page? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 19:11, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
::And done! Decent enough? --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 19:22, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
:::Looks good! I like the gold parts. The only thing that bothers me is the way the background repeats itself in the Trinity Archives box. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 19:47, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
::::Ah, you mean how all of the boxes repeat it? That specific background code was set up by Porple to be specific to those kinds of boxes, hence it will always repeat, and unfortunately I don't think there's any way to work around it. :< I could set it up so it's the same as the monaco background. The repeat won't be as obvious, but it won't be half as unique looking though. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 20:03, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
:::::The background repeated itself in the one box, but Porple already fixed it. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 20:06, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
::::::Oh! I didn't catch that! But alright, he has my thanks! --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 20:24, 28 March 2022 (UTC)


== Lock down the town ==
== Lauriam/Marluxia ==
I don't see the issue with simply mentioning that Lauriam could be the Somebody of Marluxia. Even before my edits, there was a "See also" link to each other's articles. Now there's nothing. I thought it would be a nice idea to simply elaborate on the extremely vague connection there.


I think it might be a good idea to prevent anyone other than site staff from creating new pages for the next 24 hours or so. With new game announcements on the horizon, things are gonna get weird and scattered; new users are gonna flock with registrations, old inactive accounts will spring back to life, and everyone which-way is gonna be making pages for the new stuff. This might help keep things a bit more orderly. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 04:42, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
This is what I hate about wikis with zero tolerance "no speculation" policies. While it is technically speculation, not allowing the possible Marluxia-Lauriam connection to be mentioned is extremism. We're not claiming it's a fact. Do you think it's just a big coincidence that a pink-haired man with an anagram of Marluxia's name (minus an x, of course) exists? [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 17:43, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
:I don't think that will be necessary for now. We'll see what happens first. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 05:43, 10 April 2022 (UTC)
:You say we're not claiming it's a fact, but we're supposed to list facts, and only facts. This is not a place for speculation. And yes, it's almost certain that Lauriam is Marluxia's original self, but we can't say for sure until the game(s) or Nomura actually confirm it. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:04, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
::So much for not necessary lol... Maybe you should unlock those two pages for site staff and janitors? I can't add links to the official websites. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 13:01, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
:::It's not that bad so far, I think...
:::Unfortunately I can only unlock those pages for staff only or all auto-confirmed users, but I'll ask Porple to give Janitors the right to edit protected pages. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 14:52, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
::::Thanks! --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 16:03, 11 April 2022 (UTC)


==Inaccurate Info==
::The "This is not a place for speculation" rule only exists because people like you with this mindset are often in positions of power on wikis. If the majority of people agree, wikis can have speculation, and there are many out there that do. My opinion is that speculation can be great and healthy at times, especially in situations like this when something is so blatantly obviously implied. In such cases where something is so blatantly obviously implied, I don't see why we can't make some exceptions here and there. I don't see why we have to adopt an "all-or-nothing" approach to this situation. I would prefer it if this wiki could relax its rules on speculation just a tad bit. [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 18:12, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
The locations on the [[Attack Card]] page for [[Diamond Dust]] and [[One-Winged Angel]] are incorrect as they can easily be purchased at a Moogle Shop after defeating Marluxia the first time (which I verified not too long ago). Can you think of a solution to fix this info? -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 20:30, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
:I did some checking in the Ultimanias, and I think I know where it went wrong. Diamond Dust and One-winged Angel are listed as the signature Attack cards of Castle Oblivion and Twilight Town, with the defeat Marluxia unlock condition as note. Now, signature attack cards (like Lady Luck or Olympia) can only be found in their respective worlds through random drops and treasures. And that is why we presumed they had to be obtained there. However, and this is where it went wrong, to unlock such a signature attack card, you don't need to obtain it in such a world, the unlock condition is stated as simply visiting the world. And the unlock condition for those two Keyblades is to defeat Marluxia.
:So, long story short, they are unlocked after defeating Marluxia, and can only be found as drops/treasures in those worlds, but you can get them from a Moogle Shop as well, since you unlocked them and card packs contain all unlocked cards. I'll go ahead and fix things. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:35, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
::Well I figured they were random drops because of think I came across that a long time ago, but yeah at least I confirmed that just like the Marluxia Enemy Card, those cards are also first available after defeating him the first time (which also technically includes the unlockable cards if a completed game file of R/R is available. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 18:40, 9 May 2022 (UTC)


== Sea-salt ice cream ==
:::Actually, the real cause of this rule is that the wiki tries to be as official as possible. Unlike most websites and other wiki communities, the ''Kingdom Hearts'' Wiki's best interest is in presenting the most current and official take on the ''Kingdom Hearts'' series. That's been defined as either being discussed by the developers/series director, or being in the actual game itself. In years past (before I was even around here), the wiki did have more speculation, but when you allow a little speculation, it opens the door to more speculation in more places, and the exact limit on how much you can speculate or how implausible the claims can be begins to disappear. [[Forum:The World that Never was|You can ask the community]] and see for yourself; most of the community here agrees with this policy.


Hey there!
:::Yes, it's much more than a coincidence. No, it's not likely that Marluxia and Lauriam aren't related, as you say. But our role in the community, what we try to do, is state all the facts as they are present '''today''', not as we suspect they will be tomorrow. Yeah, that means ignoring, at least in mainspace content, very obvious but otherwise unconfirmed connections and information. Consider this: Wikipedia would never allow content that may be assumptions not based in fact. They have tons of editors that are cycling through the entire site, ensuring each statement is sourced, official, and true, and removing that which may be controversial or simply assumption. They strive to be an encyclopedia that presents the facts of the world as they exist today, regardless of possible connections between ideas and their own personal assumptions or beliefs. That's what we try to do here. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 18:47, 23 June 2018 (UTC)


Can you please tell me why my edits to the sea-salt ice cream page were reversed? --[[User:Mikoto|Mikoto]] ([[User talk:Mikoto|talk]]) 22:16, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
::::This philosophy ("if we add even a little speculation which is based on more blatantly obvious stuff, then speculation based on wild theories will run rampant") implies distrust of the community - that we can't handle things on a case-by-case basis. That's why speculative debates exist. In any case, I'm not going to push the Marluxia issue further. If the consensus decides against any and all speculation, then I can't change that, although I am very disappointed. All I can hope is that it's confirmed in KH3 or something. [[User:Soroxas|Soroxas]] ([[User talk:Soroxas|talk]]) 19:04, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
:Well, we prefer to not have any trivia sections on pages. Also, what you wrote was basically speculation as to what it referred to exactly. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 22:51, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
:::::"because people like you with this mindset are often in positions of power on wikis."
::I get that, but would it be okay to have the part about it being mentioned in DuckTales, at least? ('In the DuckTales first-season finale "The Shadow War!", Mrs. Beakley makes Huey, Dewey, and Louie a dessert using sea-salt ice cream, saying it was Scrooge's favorite and a "common farewell ice cream in certain parts"'.) The article for Kingdom Key D mentions its appearance in that Mickey Mouse cartoon. Also, what was wrong with adding photos of the real thing? --[[User:Mikoto|Mikoto]] ([[User talk:Mikoto|talk]]) 03:31, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
::::::Which makes sense, since such rules encourage high-quality edits, reliable sourcing that makes the wiki useful to readers instead of "isn't it obvious", and prevents citogenesis (which run rampant in fandoms without such hardline rules -- see TVtropes articles on a given fandom for examples of fan myths that have spread around a fandom).
:::The problem with sea-salt ice cream is that it isn't exclusive to KH, so it's hard to tell if it's a reference or not. However, since we also mention it in the KH references in other media page, I guess it's fine to add it under an Other appearances section.
:::::"implies distrust of the community"
:::As for those photos, they aren't related to KH. They show sea-salt ice cream, but not in the way it is shown in the series. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 11:12, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
::::::It implies pattern recognition. Each time the wiki has relaxed its rules on speculation, it gets abused, and then when the staff tried to police the abuse, fights started from said users who complained "you allow some speculation, why is mine not okay?!" Like on all moderated sites (reddit, forums, etc.), the need for ''some'' black-and-white rules is pretty noncontroversial. For example -- theories that Unknown BbS was Saix, that the name was Master Erauqxs, that DiZ was the leader of the Organization, and so on. The entire purpose of a wiki is to be a ''resource'' for fans to find the confirmed info, not a place to promote one's pet theories. I have myself had pet theories scrubbed from the wiki because they were improperly sourced, and found to be unsupportable.
::::Yes, sea-salt ice cream exists out of KH, but considering they said it's specifically Scrooge's favorite dessert, it has to be a KH reference.
:::::"That's why speculative debates exist." -- and they are fair game in the userspace, or on talk pages, or on forums. Which we have, and which editors are encouraged to use. But if it's put on the mainspace articles, it is ''by definition'' portraying itself as being spoken with the authority of the encyclopedia.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:02, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
::::They're not the same exact sea-salt ice cream in the series, but they ''are'' the real world version from Tokyo DisneySea that inspired Nomura to add the food to the games. That's not relevant? --[[User:Mikoto|Mikoto]] ([[User talk:Mikoto|talk]]) 23:51, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
:::::In my opinion, it's not relevant. But if you want, you can ask for more opinions on the talk page or the Discord. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:07, 30 May 2022 (UTC)


==Soul Eater Question==
==A proposal==
I checked both my copies of Chain of Memories and Re:Chain of Memories and unlike Jiminy's Journal, the D-Report does have a Strike ranking (which is understandable why due to the difference in gameplay). Do you think we can remove that from the [[Soul Eater]] page as the D+ ranking does not come from an official source? -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 17:31, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
While I don't believe that the combo pack game ''Kingdom Hearts: The Story So Far'' deserves to have its own page since there is nothing really new about it which makes it a much different case from the Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+ combo pack release, I would like to propose making a light mention of it around the top of the pages for the HD 1.5 + 2.5 and HD 2.8 pages in a small paragraph which October 30th comes around. What is your thoughts on this idea? -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 03:25, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
:I just checked the Ultimania, and it actually has stats for the Soul Eater. Not just Strike, but the others as well. So I'll add those to the page. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:41, 23 July 2022 (UTC)
:We have pages for other "combo packs" like [[Kingdom Hearts: Trinity Master Pieces]] and [[Kingdom Hearts 10th Anniversary Box]], so I think we should have a page for The Story So Far as well, even though there isn't much to say about it. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 10:52, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
::Didn't know that, but at least since the cover art for that game has been revealed you could upload it and start the page anytime you want. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 15:44, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
:::Got the page done. I have to leave for awhile, but I if you want you can copyedit and make the necessary changes if you have the time to do so. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 20:12, 21 October 2018 (UTC)


== Username change ==
==Warning==
Cubisticmage has been causing problems again and I had to revert the changes that were made. At this point either another warning or a temporary block may be necessary. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 03:38, 24 October 2018 (UTC)


Hello, I am a user from the old wiki and formerly served as an ambassador between; currently on the original wiki, I've changed my name and would like to change my username here for consistency. Would you happen to know if this is possible, and whom would I ask to update my username? Thanks! <span style="color:silver; font-style:italic;font-family:Times New Roman; text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px MidnightBlue;">The Silver wings of night</span> 00:35, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
==Search Engine Issue==
:Hi there. It sure is possible, and you've come to the right person for it. Just let me know what you want your new username to be and I'll change it. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 08:13, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
Buzz Lightyear is not showing up on the immediate search when I type in his name in the search engine. However when I type in completely and then hit enter I head directly to his page. Wanted to give you the heads up on this issue. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 16:56, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
::Thank you! I would like my new username to be Nightsilver.<span style="color:silver; font-style:italic;font-family:Times New Roman; text-shadow: 1px 1px 1px MidnightBlue;">The Silver wings of night</span> 19:52, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
:::Done. Please make sure to follow our [[KHWiki:Signature Policy|Signature policy]]. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 21:00, 31 August 2022 (UTC)


== Let's have a quick talk ==
== Can't edit khux wiki, so ==
Event Quests, Cross Quests unlock after completing Quest 34


Hi.
Coliseum Quests unlock after completing Quest 130
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So, you obviously saw my edit summary deleting my talk page. Believe me when I say that I ''get'' it's a rule. That said, I reiterate that that isn't particularly a concern of mine when it comes to this. As someone with moderating experience elsewhere (not necessarily on a fan wiki), I have to pose the question, and I ask sincerely - can you consider using discretion to cast aside "typical procedure", for lack of a better term, if in fact, such a thing has no value?
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I realize it's a big ask to place your trust in me when I explain that I've come here after nearly a decade of inactivity (feel free to check my contributions) with the sole intent of tying some loose ends and erasing some embarrassments from my childhood. Or maybe you can believe that and you don't really care. But naturally, the question that pops up is this: what benefit does it give an independently run Kingdom Hearts fan wiki to retain old talk page messages from someone who was a child at the time (and really should not have had an account here), and what would it lose in terms of serving its purpose - IE, a collection of information on Kingdom Hearts - if a talk page maybe five or six people in the world are aware exists? One of whom is actively bothered by its existence as a reminder of a time I was acting as a petulant child.
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Of course, I will defer to your decision if you decide that everything must be played exactly by the book, to the letter of the law. I could go on some rambling essay begging for some jury nullification, but the only other thing I'll say is that in my experience, it's often just as much, if not more, of a meaningful but weighted decision to be made when you choose whether a rule, however large or small, can be overlooked on rare occasion.
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As I said, whatever decision you make, I'll abide by that. I hope your day finds you well.
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Mar 20:06, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
:Hi there. Sorry for the late reply, but I figured I'd discuss this with some other staff members first. And while we get that some things in the past are embarrassing, we do think it's better to stick to our policy. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:00, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
:There is also nothing on your talk page that reveal your private identity, so no one should really be able to trace that talk page back to whoever you are. Also, even if we were to clear your talk page everything would still be accessible by going through the page's history anyways, unfortunately. I doubt anybody you know IRL or online will ever go to your talk page and judge it; let alone find it. And if anybody judges you for things you did/said as a child/teen then to hell with them. - {{User:JTD95/Signature}} 18:13, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
::Very well. I suppose the rationale given by both of you is fair enough, and as I said, though I wish it were otherwise and I could just bury it completely, I will comply. Though I ''am'' admittedly surprised this was considered something worthy of discussion among staff. I suppose I'm flattered. That's at least a step up from "this kid is trolling the site. Why should we not permaban him?" At any rate, I wish you well. Thank you for your time and consideration - Mar 00:16, 19 September 2022 (UTC)


== "Re:coded" romaji field ==
Special Quests "unlocked" from beginning, but can't be accessed until the game gives you control over what you do


Hi, the way you're doing things makes it seem like the "Re" in "Re:coded" is pronounced as れ in Japanese when it's actually pronounced り. When you combine English with romaji, it's no longer a romaji field. I went and checked other games and most of them have the same issue. I also think you should follow what Wikipedia does with romaji for games like KH II and III. I hope my point came across. --[[User:Zeta|Zeta]] ([[User talk:Zeta|talk]]) 00:03, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
Before Power Bangle obtained, 7* medals will act like 5-dotted, but will regain their natural special bonus once bangle obtained
:I get where you're coming from, but the way I see it, romaji isn't showing pronunciation, but how something is written in Latin/Roman characters. That's why we don't change anything that's already written in Latin/Roman characters, or numbers. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 12:33, 4 February 2023 (UTC)


== Image Categories ==
recipes up to lv 20 appear to be same but with all qty x1, orichalcum switched out for mythril shard (confirm with Olympia), 21-25 replaced with standard mats


Hey, quick question. I'm going through character images, and I'm finding some from one game, tagged with another game. For example, Jasmine_KH.png (from KH1) is also filed under COM and RE:COM, alongside KH1 (the game the render is actually from). Is this correct? --[[File:Riku Sprite KHD.png]] [[User:Mikoto|mikoto]] 04:35, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
;Quest rewards (only doing mandatory quests so plenty of gaps)
:I think they added categories for all games the character appeared in at first. So, if you were looking at the CoM category, you'd see all characters from CoM, even if they didn't have new renders. However, I think we should only keep the categories where the render is from, as that is more accurate. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 10:27, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
*??
::Gotcha, then I'll start removing the superfluous categories. Also, shouldn't renders like Vexen_KHCOM.png be named Vexen_KHRECOM.png, instead? --[[File:Riku Sprite KHD.png]] [[User:Mikoto|mikoto]] 21:33, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
*3: Curative Leaf x2
:::I think those renders were made for the original CoM. I read that they first made renders for the new characters before making them into sprites. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 21:42, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
*5: 30000 Munny, 300 Jewel
*6: 1* Dewey x1
*poss 7?: Fairy Godmother x3, HDL x3, 1000 Jewel
*8: ? Yen Sid, ? Flora?
*10: 5* Dewey x5, Yen Sid x2, 4* Merryweather x2
*12: 6* Huey x5, Fantasia Mickey A x2, 5* Flora x3
*14: 6* Dewey x5, Fantasia Mickey A x2, Treasure Trove(?)
*15: ?* Merryweather x?
*16: 6* Huey x5, Fantasia Mickey A x2, 5* Flora x3
*17: 6* Louie x5, Fantasia Mickey A x2, 5* Fauna x3
*21: N/A
*22: 6* Huey x3, 6* Louie x3, 6* Dewey x3
*24: Lady Luck
*25: 6* Huey x1, 150 Jewel, Cid 10 x1, 150 Jewel<!--standard 25 quest + special prologue, not separated in-game-->
*29: N/A
*30: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel, Cid 10 x1, 40000 Munny, 150 Jewel<!--standard 5 quest + special prologue, not separated in-game-->
*33: N/A
*34: Three Wishes, Power Bangle
*35: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel, Cid 10 x1, 40000 Munny, 150 Jewel<!--standard 5 quest + special prologue, not separated in-game-->
*47: 6* Huey x3, 6* Louie x3, 6* Dewey x3
*48: N/A
*51: N/A
*54: N/A
*55: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*60: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*62: N/A
*64: N/A
*66: N/A
*67: N/A
*68: N/A
*70: ? Munny, ? Jewel
*72: N/A
*73: N/A
*75: 6* Huey x 1, 150 Jewel
*76: N/A
*77: ? (I think I stopped noting them unless they had something at this point, since the standard 5 quests stabilizes by this point)
*81: ?
*82: ?
*86: ?
*88: ?
*89: ?
*91: ?
*92: ?
*94: ?
*96: ?
*98: ?
*99: ?
*100: 6* Huey x 1, 150 Jewel
*102: N/A
*115: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*120: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel, 3* Attack Boost I x1<!--standard 5 quest + special prologue-->
*130: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*160: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*195: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*200: 6* Huey x1, 150 Jewel
*210: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*220: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*230: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*250: 6* Huey x1, 150 Jewel
*270: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*275: 6* Huey x1, 150 Jewel
*276: N/A
*280: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*295: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*300: 6* Huey x1, 150 Jewel
*310: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*325: 6* Huey x1, 150 Jewel
*350: 6* Huey x1, 150 Jewel
*375: 6* Huey x1, 150 Jewel
*380: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*385: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*390: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*395: 10000 Munny, 150 Jewel
*400: 6* Huey x1, 150 Jewel


== Dark-EnigmaXIII's Renders ==
;Bosses (note - boss quests stop you from progressing like raid bosses, even if they don't have cutscenes)
*8: Large Body
*14: Large Armor
*24: Trickmaster
*34: Red Bandit
*47: Red Copter Fleet
*54: Morning Star
*66: Behemoth
*76: Blue Copter Fleet
*?? (check 81, 91)
*96: Yellow Copter Fleet
*102: Savage Spider
*?? (check 108, 114)
*120: Wyvern
*130: Ogre
*160: Iron Giant
*183: Wicked Spider
*200: Queen Bee
*217: Gargoyle
*230: Trickmaster O
*250: Black Copter Fleet
*275: Fortress Crab
*300: Wretched Witch
*310: Cloud
*314: Cerberus
*325: Guard Armor O
*350: Hades
*?? (check 375)
*379: Possessors
*400: Playing Cards
*???
*780: Eliminator
*789: Jafar
*790: Jafar
*805: ??
*810: ??
*815: Dragon Maleficent


While going through image categories, I'm finding a bunch of unofficial renders by Dark-EnigmaXIII. These seem a bit... unnecessary, so I'm wondering if it'd be okay to remove them from catagories. --[[File:Riku Sprite KHD.png]] [[User:Mikoto|mikoto]] 23:24, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
;Raid
:The only ones I deem necessary to keep are the ones that lack official renders, e. g. Apprentice Xehanort from BBS. There's an official one from KH2 but not one from BBS with a high poly face. Several of the characters from Castle of Dreams also lack original renders. These should also be kept imo. File:Anti Form (Render) KHII.png is an example of renders I personally see no need to keep. Not in the categories and not on the wiki at all. - {{User:JTD95/Signature}} 23:37, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
*24: Trickmaster
::Unofficial renders should be deleted. But, as JTD said, we can make an exception if there is no official render. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:19, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
*66: Behemoth
*91: Darkside
*102: Savage Spider
*136: Behemoth
*183: Savage Spider
*200: Darkside
*230: Trickmaster
*276: Darkside
*301: Savage Spider
*325: Guard Armor
*375: Trident Tail
*390: Trident Tail


== Wth ==
== 7★ damage ==


What the hell, mang. We've added stuff from betas... We've always added stuff from betas, from Chi to Unchained. When did that ever change? --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 21:29, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
I tried adding an extra row to one of the tables for the multipliers of one of the KHUX special attacks, and it didn't come out right. Is there something I'm missing? [[User:SuperGamecube|SuperGamecube]] ([[User talk:SuperGamecube|talk]]) 03:18, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
:I don't remember how we handled KHX and KHUX, but the way I see it beta is not the actual release, so we should wait on covering it. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 23:17, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
:What exactly were you trying to do? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 12:37, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
::We're...changing that on just a random whim? Just like that? I...ok. Whatever, I guess. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 00:53, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
Never mind, it's fixed now. [[User:SuperGamecube|SuperGamecube]] ([[User talk:SuperGamecube|talk]]) 17:45, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
:::TSH is right. Also we didn't cover information on KHX or KHUX in mainspace when they were still in beta, only after the fact. Still, great work on the logo. They will probably not change it so we'll use it eventually.--{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 17:25, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
::::I honestly could've sworn that we did, but I'm not gonna argue the point. It's not like we're gonna be waiting another two years for the wide release. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 18:03, 4 December 2023 (UTC)


== KHUX Keyblade amd Synthesis data ==
==Dark Riku==
Dark Riku is currently a redirect to [[Dark Mode]]. Needs to be deleted to make room for a new page to take its place. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 15:37, 1 February 2019 (UTC)


Since I'm currently going through all this stuff again I was wondering if we want to keep or display some of the KHUX Keyblade synthesis data on the respective material page before level 1-25 were significantly changed? For example Adamant was made obsolete so should the page only contain this information or also how it was used?. Also I'm not able to view the archive versions on the KHUX wiki anymore, maybe something's wrong on my end though, editing them still works somehow.
==Pending Review issues==
Second question is what to do with the Keyblade data itself. Should it be updated to latest version (probably with combining levels for better readability) or should it stay it this way? What's your opinion on this dead game's content? --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 18:19, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Right now I am have problems with my edits as I get these pending review notices. I know for a long time my IP Address keeps changing, and I tried logging out and back in but nothing is working. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 23:48, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
:For materials, I think we should display what was required in the latest version, with a reference or note with what was required before. For materials that became obsolete, like the Adamantite, I think we should display what it was used for with a note at the top saying it was made obsolete from version x on.
: We're currently making more edits go through Moderation, to keep track of everything that gets added. It doesn't have anything to do with your IP address. It's only a temporary measure for the first week(s). {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 10:55, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
:For the Keyblades, ideally we should cover everything. However, there's no way we can stuff those long pages from the KHUX wiki in a single infobox. I'm not sure how well combining levels will work. And then there's still the Passives and Subslots. So I don't really know what to do with those. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:37, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:I've been getting these types of notices as well despite having been here for years (semi-retired), yet I've been helping with getting the enemy lists for worlds, as well as their own journal entries. Best I can suggest is to hand these entries over through Discord for the time being. I understand the reasons behind the locks. Biggest game since Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon, after all. {{Uxie/Sig}} 12:55, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
::Regarding the KHUX wiki archive pages, it seems the template crashed. Probably because it's too long. When I remove a bunch of the code, the preview works again. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:43, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
:: Since your edits are all fine and following MoS, I gave you the right to skip moderation. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 12:58, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
 
==Note==
Now that the Reverse/Rebirth [[Map Card]] is on that page, wouldn't it be prudent to add it the Reverse/Rebith section for the subpages on all the worlds that are in Chain of Memories? -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 05:27, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
:We could, but the drop rates are the same for (almost) all worlds, and each card has an equal chance of dropping, so I'm not sure how much it would actually add to those pages. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:02, 22 October 2024 (UTC)
::Best analysis I can come up with is to make rowspan for the main percentages big enough to cover the entire percent area of the Red, Green, and Blue Cards section, followed by a section for the Random Joker, using only the Map Cards obtainable in ''Reverse/Rebirth''. Since this will require some copying/pasting on most worlds excluding Hollow Bastion it would not be hard to set up, as it will show readers what map cards are available in that world and it is easier to manage than the one for ''Sora's Story''. -[[User:Adv193|Adv193]] ([[User talk:Adv193|talk]]) 21:53, 22 October 2024 (UTC)

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