Editing User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII/Project BBS

==Warning==
I suggest using someone with a red background, as it is more alarming. Just wait until me and Ataradesu are done with some of the templates. - '''[[User:Xiggie|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=blue>Ice</font>]][[User talk:Xiggie|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=dodgerblue>boy</font>]]''<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Xiggie|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=paleturquoise>Svalur!</font>]]</sup>''''' 15:22, December 30, 2009 (UTC)
{{EO|time=15:33, December 30, 2009 (UTC)|text=Well, my other option was a black Master Xehanort. "Those who wield the darkness... Are not qualified to edit articles!" rather than "Wield the Keyblade...". Quotes can be decided later. We'll use Terra for something else, then. I plan to do templates now for every BBS character we have sprites for. What templates should be for :

*Aqua
*Terra
*Ven
*Isa
*Braig
*Ienzo
*Lea
*Master Erauqs}}
{{Xiggie|time=15:52, December 30, 2009 (UTC)|text=Actually... I think you should wait a bit... and don't use the templates by Maggosh and Lego Alchemist, as they are too different from the ones me and Ataradesu are gonna make...}}
{{EO|time=16:02, December 30, 2009 (UTC)|talktext=Well, I've separated the page into sections, and I've put up a few models of Talk Bubbles using Ataradesu's images. Let's utilize these pro images, and wait for the masters to finish with the others. I'd only use characters with renders. This would mean EVERY character from BBS, btw, if we want a complete archive...}}

== Hi ==

{{Dan da Man36|time=21:20, December 30, 2009 (UTC)|happy=Hi =) If you need some help with the project, I'll be active this week, as it's holiday time and all that. ^_^ I was thinking I could help with the quotes section. I could find a number of quotes for each character you're planning on making talk bubbles for, giving anyone who wants to use them a variety of quotes to choose from. Anyway, if you do need some help, my talk page is [[User talk:Dan da Man36|here]], hidden at the back of the wiki, covered in dust and cobwebs. ^_^ Hope to hear from you soon! =D}}

== Talk Bubbl,e Quotes ==

{{EO|time=23:12, December 30, 2009 (UTC)|text=For talk bubbles, what should we do if we have no quotes? Just add "__" and then their role? See Captain Dark's Talk Bubble as an example.}}

== If I may... ==

{{Maggosh|text=I have a few ideas.
Warning: Mickey: "The Keyblade isn’t something you use to hurt people!"
<br>Warning: Captain Dark: "Follow the rules, rookie."
<br>Bad Name: Peter Pan: "Who in the world is this?"
<br>Unreleased: Ven: "Hearts that are scared will show you illusions."
<br>Reconstruct/Structure: AtW: "Everything is born from sleep. Yes, even you..."}}
{{EO|time=01:46, December 31, 2009 (UTC)|text=Nice ideas :D 

Are these official quotes? We'd also implement some of these in the talk bubbles... Also, about the Minnie Template, doesn't Dale say the "against the rules" thing?}}

{{Xion4ever|time=01:48, December 31, 2009 (UTC)|text=Why not create an example of those, maggosh? If you don't have a sandbox, feel free to test them out on [[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|mine]]. I already started a section for BBS Templates.}}

{{Maggosh|text=@ENX: The quotes are from Lissar's translation of the Jump Festa trailer.

@X4E: Thank you, I'll get on it.}}

{{maggosh|text=And they're done.

[[User:Xion4ever/Atelier#maggosh]]}}

==More ideas==
Not sure if these'll work, but here's what I've come up with for now :

*You know the CGI renders of the protagonists'/antagonists' faces ? Or maybe their faces from clips, if the graphics are good enough ? These could qualify as emotions. I've put it on Xiggie's talk page as a proposition, but I'm not sure...
*Please sprite images of Unversed too, once they're out ^_^ I know someone who'd be pleased !
*I'm not sure whether we're lacking citations, but what if there are two citations for two different templates, by the same character ? It'd be weird to have Aqua on a Welcome template and a Warning II template, get the drift ? :P

That's it for now. I'll add on to the list if I can think of more. <big>'''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#2A52BE">Agi Idup</font>]] [[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">Agi</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#71A6D2">Ngelaban !</font>]]'''</big> 16:25, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. ^^ Need help finding any pictures, just tell me! About the concern of Aqua on a welcome and warning template: I think we should gather all of our template ideas here, then chose which ones will be used. The ones we decide not to use can be put on hold or used as a backup plan.

Also, <small>this is from the first idea of the project</small> but ENX, maggosh and myself have created some templates [[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|here]]. Two of those templates have been given the green light to use once the wiki changes to the BBS theme- the Welcome templates. Discussion about the welcome templates have taken [[Forum:BBS Theme|here]] at the bottom of the page. I created the Welcome templates spur of the moment- comments would be appreciated! Nice job guys!--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 16:48, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

:I'll be working on improved versions perhaps. ^_^ <big>'''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#2A52BE">Agi Idup</font>]] [[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">Agi</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#71A6D2">Ngelaban !</font>]]'''</big> 06:02, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
How about [[User:Xabryn/Sandbox|this]] for the expansion template. I know it is stupid but it is an idea--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 22:12, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
:Not bad ! ^^ I've always had a penchant for Vanitas after hearing his high-pitched laugh. <big>'''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#2A52BE">Agi Idup</font>]] [[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">Agi</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#71A6D2">Ngelaban !</font>]]'''</big> 00:14, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

== The warning tamplates.... ==

{{LA|Vtext=You know.... there's something about the warning templates that isn't... right.

They just don't have the same ferocity or power as the old ones do... Minnie mouse and chip just don't really work for warnings...}}
{{TNE|time=03:07, January 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=I know, but do you want to just chide the person on the first warning or do you want to yell at him for the first warning ? By the way, that was ''Warning I''. Warning II would obviously need more ferocity than the first, and Warning III would need more ferocity than Warning II.}}
{{LA|Vtext=I umderstand what you mean. I'm just looking through the eyes of a <s>vandal</s> new user who sees this on their talk page. I wouldn't take it all that seriously, that's all:}}
{{TNE|time=00:53, January 12, 2010 (UTC)|text=Well, like, say, if we're considering both the Warning II templates as ideas (Aqua and Terra), we could, perhaps take them, instead of the Warning I templates. What do you think ?

Man, I need wiki consensus.}}
{{LA|Vtext=Yeah, I think Aqua and Terra might do a bit better. I mean, there's nothing wrong with Minnie and Chip (or is it Dale?), they're just not that intimidating.}}
{{TNE|time=11:23, January 12, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Understandable :P Aqua and Terra it is, then. Shall we use the angry Aqua/Terra faces, or the normal ones ?}}
{{Xion4ever|time=01:54, January 21, 2010 (UTC)|text=I say we use the angry ones. Nothing expresses the posters' feelings better than the correct image. Similar to the images we use in our talkbubbles. A reader can normally tell (and looks) at the image first, foreshadowing how the message will read. So: an angry image foreshadows an angry response.}}
{{TNE|time=07:44, January 21, 2010 (UTC)|angrytext=Something like this. (P.S. This is just for demonstration purposes only.)}}
{{Xion4ever|time=20:01, January 24, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yea, or something similar (so as not to "steal" your emotion images).}}
{{TNE|time=00:43, January 25, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Steal ? I think they're all in the public domain :P So they can be used at will, just like the Chain of Memories or Days sprites.

So guys, let's get this show on the road already ! ^_^}}
{{Xion4ever|time=00:51, January 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=I guess..

The question is, where to start? Should we start <s>elminating</s> choosing the warning templates we'd like to use first? Or what?}}
{{TNE|time=00:59, January 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=We finalise what we need to use at least for the warning templates/maintenance templates and sutff. We get the necessary emotion sprites and the necessary characters. I'll work on the talk templates, as I've got a chockful to bring back from KHFR ^_^. And once we're all done, we await the 14th of May !}}
{{Xion4ever|time=01:49, January 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=Alrighty then, sounds like a plan. Not sure what I can do.. But for starters, I'll go around making sure we didn't miss any BBS talkbubble images (I know theres some Terra images flying around); I'll add them to the Images to Use section.}}
{{HOO|time=02:08, January 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=What's May 14th?}}
{{Xion4ever|time=02:10, January 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=EDIT 02:10, January 25, 2010 (UTC): One question- There has been multiple uploads of the same character/similar image. Should I add those images in as well?

Example: 

Our current Isa image to http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad99/Xion4ever/IsaTalk.png

Or images like Lea; we only have one normal text image of him, while there are other emotions for him created by another user, but have a different background. Images:

<!--[[File:LeaTalk2.png]]--> Lea talk two

http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad99/Xion4ever/LeaTalkAngry.png Lea angry

[[File:LeaTalkHappy.png]] Lea happy

<!--[[File:LeaTalkSad.png]]--> Lea sad

See?

@HOO: No idea..the American release date for BBS maybe?}}
{{HOO|time=02:22, January 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=THAT WOULD BE AMAZING! That's my birthday! If that's true, best birthday present ever!}}
{{TNE|time=11:32, January 25, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Consensus ? We get on it right away !

And Xion : I'll have to remodel the backgrounds for Lea's avatars, I think. But I'll work on it when I have much less on my hands. ^_^}}

{{Xion4ever|time=22:30, January 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=Alright, thanks. Just wondering about the images and such. If I find anymore I'll add the links on this talkpage.}}
{{LA|Vtext=@TNE: I'll do it. I'm remaking all of the Lea emotions because they turned out <s>crappy</s> really bad.}}
{{TNE|time=06:04, January 29, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Suhweet !}}
{{LA|Vtext=So I've got a little something here. All of the old Lea Talk Sprites were redone as seen above ^:

<!--[[File:LeaTalk.png]]--> - Redid my original Lea Talk Sprite. I think it looks better.

<!--[[File:LeaExpressionTalk1.png]]--> - A random emotion... whatever one wants to make of it

<!--[[File:LeaExpressionTalk2.png]]--> - Same as above, though I really like this one

<!--[[File:LeaExpressionTalk3.png]]--> - Same as above, really.

<!--[[File:LeaDowncastTalk.png]]--> - Kind of a Downcast look, though if you look carefully, he's smiling...

That's all... I'm also <s>making</s> made Isa talk ones too, and if you want to see them, give me a shout.}}
{{TNE|time=13:36, January 31, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Of course !}}

{{Xion4ever|time=14:29, January 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=Wow nice job, Lego! 

Also this maybe a trivial matter at the moment, please look at [[:Category:User images|this]], secifically the BBS talkbubble images. We already have numerous talkbubble images that are starting to become duplicates that aren't being used (see the two Ienzo images, for example). I am in no way saying we should stop creating the images, but at somepoint we'll have to go through and decide which images we want to keep and not. For example: Deleting the old Lea images I originally posted on here since Lego's current images are better. 

Any thoughts?}}
{{TNE|time=14:41, January 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yes, I believe we should keep the high quality ones, and those which look cropped and badly modified should be VFD'd.}}

{{Xion4ever|time=14:56, January 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=Alright, then comes this question: When should we nominate them for deletion? Should we wait until Project BBS/the remodel is closed? Or nominate them now? My point is: We don't want to delete any images now that we think aren't needed/won't be used only to need them later. Regardless, I know we could delete some of the images now (the extra Ienzo image that isn't being used).}}
{{TNE|time=15:05, January 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=Those which we are sure of VFDing now, let's VFD them. For the rest (if we're going to upload better quality versions of the sprites, for example), it's best to upload new versions of the file, rather than VFDing them outright. Like what LA did for Lea. I know that there are 2 versions of the Braig talk sprite, one from Days and one original (well, both photoshopped :P), and I don't know what to do in such cases.}}
===Deleted a few...===
{{LA|Vtext=(making it easier to edit section above) I went through some of my User images and put a few up for deletion, mainly ones that are of bad quality, not needed here on the wiki, and duplicates of other images. Namely the Days Braig one, and the First Days Ienzo one I made.}}
{{TNE|time=00:51, February 1, 2010 (UTC)|text=Good work. ^_^}}

{{Xion4ever|time=01:07, February 1, 2010 (UTC)|text=Alright so the image situation is taken care of (pretty much). So now what? Do we start finalizing the warning templates or move onto something else?}}
{{TNE|time=01:12, February 1, 2010 (UTC)|text=We finalise them, but what shall we move on to ?

EDIT 01:16, February 1, 2010 (UTC) : Oh, and remember : English release = HOO's birthday ! We have something special for him !}}

{{Xion4ever|time=01:21, February 1, 2010 (UTC)|text=Theres other templates we could look at, like navigation (spoilers, delete, etc.) The only templates we've been given the green light to use once the wiki changes to the BBS form are the welcome templates found [[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|here]] (at the bottom).

About HOO's birthday: No idea what we could do.. If BBS comes out on his birthday we could do something related (like a happy birthday template with a BBS theme). But I honestly have no idea..}}
{{TNE|time=01:25, February 1, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=We'll think of something.

As for the welcome templates, I remember over the Dark Side :P I used Aqua's normal sprite as part of the welcome template. But our trend here is to add the artwork, so I'm not sure if there's a full artwork of TAV alone. I just saw the new Welcome Template, it looks lovely ^_^}}

{{Xion4ever|time=01:31, February 1, 2010 (UTC)|text=Haha. The only artwork images that I know of (in wiki) is:

[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/File:Terra-3.jpg this one]

Which orignially came from [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/File:BirthBySleep-Artwork.jpg here]. 

If you are looking for specific characters/enemy/etc. artwork I could run through my other sources. But other than that those are the only artwork images we have. I'll explore around the web though; any images I find I'll link here.}}
{{TNE|time=01:34, February 1, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Suhweet. Thanks. ^_^}}

{{LA|Vtext=The templates look great! However, I think we should use Talk Sprites for ''all'' the character images (to stick to the tradition used by CoM and Days generations). I can whip up an Ansem the Wise Talk Sprite, if we decide to do this.}}
{{TNE|time=01:59, February 1, 2010 (UTC)|text=Great.}}

{{Xion4ever|time=01:59, February 1, 2010 (UTC)|text=@ Lego: If your going by the templates on my sandbox, feel free to ignore those. They were rough edits created by EN and myself when the idea first started.

Also, I'm not having much luck with the artwork images. I've exahusted all my sources to no avail. However, I have found these:

[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Kingdom_Hearts_Birth_by_Sleep_Artwork_Images turns out we had a category >>]

[http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/unbirths-kingdom-hearts-character-artwork.jpg Unversed]

I'll continue looking though.. Maybe it's too earlier for alot of artwork images to be up?

EDIT 02:26, February 1, 2010 (UTC):Okay I've browsed through Google and Yahoo with no luck. Sorry =/  If I find any by chance I'll add the links here.}}
{{TNE|time=02:48, February 1, 2010 (UTC)|text=Okay. I'll also try searching. ^_^}}

{{Xion4ever|time=01:28, February 5, 2010 (UTC)|text=Okay I've found [http://images.khinsider.com/Boxartcontest/birth.jpg this] for artwork. Thats about it..I'll continue looking, but it isn't looking good.}}
{{TNE|time=01:35, February 5, 2010 (UTC)|text=If all else fails, we use the one that we have at the moment, give it a slight colour switch and we'll be ready to put it up. Shall I sprite Ansem the Wise ? Or are we intending to use other characters ?}}

{{Xion4ever|time=01:42, February 5, 2010 (UTC)|text=Sounds like a plan. I say go ahead and sprite Ansem the Wise. If we need to sprite more characters tonight, we can ask Maggosh (he's currently on the IRC channel).}}
{{TNE|time=01:50, February 5, 2010 (UTC)|text=Okay. I'll need to freshen up (it's morning here), and I'll try and see if I can get on the IRC today.}}