Editing User talk:DoorToNothing

{{User:DoorToNothing/Archive}}
{{DoorToNothing|text=Hello, welcome to my talk page. Feel free to leave a message here if you have any ''Wiki-related'' issue.

While on my talk page, I'd like you to please try your best to follow the following rules:
#This page shall '''not''' be treated as or become a chat room. if you would like to chat with me or any other User about matters not realted to the Wiki, please meet me at our [http://webchat.freenode.net/ IRC Channel].
#I happen to like proper grammar and the time stamps in talk templates (<nowiki>~~~~~</nowiki>), so please use them on my talk page.}}

== あけましておめでとうございます！ ==

{{SSC|time=09:30, January 1, 2010 (UTC)|talktext=Heh, I wonder what the topic title means. Anyways, just letting you know that:
*I'm done looking for all 99 puppies. It turns out some were in new and different locations from the original KH, so I really couldn't depend on our page or the FAQ I used (since some of the locations of the puppies were far from close). xD *might have to take notes on where all 99 puppies now*
*I hunted down [[Jet Balloon]], so I put up its entry. Also, the [[Missile Diver]] entry is a lie; there's no such thing when I checked my Journal of (near) completeness.

Well, that's all I wanted to let you know. Happy New Year's!}}
==Game Navis==
{{EO|time=23:15, January 2, 2010 (UTC)|talktext=While on the IRC, Azul and I realized that the game navi's aren't such a good idea after all... Please see [[Forum:Game Navis]] and place your input. Much appreciated. Thank you very much. Expect a special present for all of your hard work some time this week. It's also the unofficial and early anniversary of our first conversation when our gravelly "friendship" was established. As to what it is, I can't say. Perhaps some cookies and some other second thing could persuade it out of me. In the academic world, ever glance at Animal Farm? It was the easiest read I've had for a school-based assignment, but I don't really get it. Worst part is I have a test on it next week :{}}

== New talk bubble ==

{{LCCH|text=Hi, it's a new user. What happened to the Roxas with a Moogle pompom on his head go, I rather like that one. If your wondering HOW I know this, I saw you a while ago, before Christmas. Didn't bother to make an account then, but, yeah. Why?}}
{{DTN|time=00:56, January 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=I just changed my talk template a few times. Before the holiday season began, I had the Roxas-Moogle. I then switched over to a festive ''Kingdom Hearts Mobile'' sprite for the holidays, and have now settled with my customized Yellow Opera. I like to be unique, hence my Roxas-Moogle and Yellow Opera.}}

{{LCCH|text=Aww, I think it's kinda cute!}}

==Thank you!==
{{HOO|time=01:31, January 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=Thank you! If you see anymore, you are free to change them. By the way, ENX brought to my attention that I still had my Luxord avatar and I just noticed you still had a Roxas avatar. I didn't know if you wanted to change it but just letting you know!}}
{{DTN|time=01:33, January 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=No problem, HeartOfOblivion. Oh, thank you for bringing that to my attention.}}

== Community List ==

{{LCCH|text=Yo. Is there a reason why I can't view the list?}}
{{DTN|time=01:51, January 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=I don't see why you shouldn't; perhaps you are trying to access it the wrong way. In the side-bars, it can be found in Community --> Featured Users --> more....}}

== Mission Allies ==

{{neumannz|text=How to handle mission 56, which has 2 allies?|time=04:05, January 6, 2010 (UTC)}}
{{DTN|time=04:07, January 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=Good point. I just did the coding for that now, put in <nowiki>[[Axel]], [[Xion]]</nowiki>.}}
{{neumannz|time=04:20, January 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=Cool.<br>Luxord seems to be triggering the Larxene category (See Mission 51)<br><br>EDIT: nevermind, went and fixed it myself}}

== goodbye? ==

Spoiler break or pissed off break?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 02:20, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
:Spoiler break, I've had this planned. I was initially elated in our previous conversation today that ''Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep'''s spoilers would remain off of the wiki until its North American or European release, but that has since changed. It pains me to go, but there's no other choice for me to remain spoiler-free. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 02:49, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

== Oh DTN... ==

{{LA|Varmor=Oh DTN... I saw your little rollback message on the Vanitas's X-blade page. It must be so awful to browse the wiki and not be spoiled...

I decided to accept all of the spoilers, because if nobody goes on this wiki because of spoilers, than there'll be no new info period. So i'm staying to add BBS info here.

Oh yeah, I'm LegoAlchemist. I believe you've seen me on the IRC once.}}
{{DTN|time=04:19, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=Through the child-like use of covering the actual article's text with my arm, I was able to notice that the Game template was missing. I did the same thing in the editing window. I'm still trying to still do some of my usual editing and image cleanup.}}
{{Saxisai|time=[[User:Saxisai|Saxisai]] 04:41, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|hidden=(using this text bubble so I dont spoil you)

It's a shame that the article is being deleted and I cant fight for it in the Deletion thread. But it looks like you got what you wanted DTN, no spoilers :P

(oh and i would go directly to my talk page if you are going to respond to this, lol, because there are some spoilers on my user page :P)}}
{{DTN|time=04:53, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=Alas, Saxisai, I believe that the community has already voted on allowing the spoilers to be immediately added to the articles; see KrytenKoro and fellow users' messages on [[Forum:Birth By Sleep spoiler policy]].}}

== Redirecting ==

Do you know how to delete redirecting links? --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 03:26, January 16, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11
:Yes, you nominate them for deletions [[Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Pages for Deletion|here]]; however, redirects are not usually deleted, so be sure that the redirect in question can absolutely not be used before nominating it for deletion. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 03:29, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

I move Kingdom Hearts (manga) to Kingdom Hearts series (manga) but I try to transfer info about KHI manga to KH (manga) but it keep redirecting to KH series (manga) instead. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 03:37, January 16, 2010 (UTC)Cococrash11

== Tigger's Playground ==

A while ago, the consensus was that as part of the world article cleanup and removal of room pages, we would add short sections on each location to the world page. While this has yet to happen, it still should, and this link is in anticipation of that. It's also the way I formatted all of the Item and Synthesis pages that I've worked on.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 05:22, January 18, 2010 (UTC)
{{KrytenKoro|That one would be a dedicated link to the Tigger's Playground section, though.}}
{{KrytenKoro|I would assume so, but if the wiki disagrees with that, I would prefer that the Tigger's Playground link be kept, and the one earlier in the lead be blacked.}}

== Re:Spoiler Sprite ==

{{Saxisai|time=[[User:Saxisai|Saxisai]] 01:08, January 22, 2010 (UTC)|saxisai=Well, i guess i have to, but what sucks about it is, I guessed that and made most of those before BBS was even released, so for my hard work, I have to take them down...

EDIT: Oh and one of my older images was going to be up for deletion because it wasnt linked to any page or w.e, so i hope that all my images arent going to get deleted because they arent linked to my talk template or any other page they were linked to...}}
{{Saxisai|time=[[User:Saxisai|Saxisai]] 02:36, January 22, 2010 (UTC)|saxisai=Oh, and btw, I re-read your message to me and i noticed that you said that my bubbles were "all over the wiki" when I mostly just post them on the talk pages of BBS related articles, or on talk pages...so what do you mean by this? if people didnt want to be spoiled, then why the heck are they looking at the BBS articles?}}

== asking ==

Ahooy there, is there anyone can teach me about how to use talk page?[[Special:Contributions/114.59.194.126|114.59.194.126]] 13:15, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

== Nintendo Power Awards ==

{{Falcon
|text = Hey DTN, Days won all the Nintendo Power awards it was nominated in!!!! Go Roxas!
}}{{Falcon
|text = Small correction, Days won all the ''Reader's Choice ''awards. Still awesome!!!
}}

==Thanks==
{{ZTG|small=Hey, thanks for the coding on that in need of template. I knew the coding to get the template, but forgot how to put the message. Thanks! Oh, and would you like to be my friend? Remember Donkey's quote from Shrek: "But ya gotta have friends!"}}

==Results==
{{NinjaSheik|happy=You might want to see [http://www.khinsider.com/ this]! 358/2 Days won!}}

==Edit Warring?==
{{LapisScarab|time=05:08, February 17, 2010 (UTC)|text=I was watching the edits too, and that was a pretty harsh, DTN. Werehog didn't seem aware of ''why'' the sections were removed and didn't revert them again once ENX gave him the reason. Neither of them edited any one of the articles than twice if I'm not mistaken. Was a warning really necessary?}}
{{DTN|time=05:14, February 17, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yes, a warning was necessary. Edit warring is a ''big'' "do not do"; it has been said time and time again that edit warring is not the way to resolve a conflict; there are at least three other ways to solve the issue: discuss the issue on a talk page, a Forum post, or on the wiki's IRC Channel. I understand that EternalNothingnessXIII is a regular contributor to the wiki, and if an administrator sees it fit, he can ask for it to be removed. However, this is simply ''one warning''. A warning is just a reminder to say "hey, watch it." Now, if a user has three warnings, then it is something more serious. This isn't to say that a warning is to be ignored and considered unimportant, but it certainly shouldn't cause a ruckus and large commotion.

Also, as to my knowledge, an article in which both of the parties involved have reverted the article at least twice is considered edit warring.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=05:20, February 17, 2010 (UTC)|text=Not all users would agree with that. I know that I would consider a warning template much more serious than a moderator/admin just telling me on my talk page "hey, watch it". And defining edit warring as "more than two reverts" is ridiculously strict (I'm aware that you didn't set this, assuming that ''is'' how it is defined, just giving my opinion on that). The issue resolved itself, and immediately after you gave them the warnings.}}
{{DTN|time=05:33, February 17, 2010 (UTC)|text=The edit warring policy is not strictly defined on this wiki, but when it is plainly obvious that two users are reverting each others' edits on one article in succession, than it should be obvious that it is an edit war.

Also, are you aware of the "Three Revert Rule", derived from our model wiki, Wikipedia? The Three Revert Rule states that a user should not revert more than three edits on article on any one day. If they do, then the user is ''definitely'' considered to be edit warring. Now, this means that it should be plainly obvious that an edit war is taking place once three edits have been reverted by both parties ''to all users'', particularly due to the word "definitely". Any user has the right to judge when they think the revisions have gone "over the top". I saw this case as one of those, since neither side showed any sign of backing down. EternalNothingnessXIII's final comment even began with an agressive statement. You claim that his reasoning made Werehog21 stop, but you really have no confirmation of that. The reason may just as well have been the warning I placed on his talk page.

It seems that EternalNothingnessXIII has approached BebopKate, asking for the warning to be removed. To make this process as peaceful as possible, I would rather stop our argument and let BebopKate handle the situation. Cococrash11 peacefully asked an administrator for her warning to be removed, and the process went just as she wanted. In model of that, we should just let this situation be resolved by ad administrator, as it has been in the past.}}

{{LapisScarab|time=05:39, February 17, 2010 (UTC)|text=So then 1) Our policy is not clearly stated anywhere, and is instead dirived from a different site (not your fault, just an issue that I'll probably bring up elsewhere), and 2) even by Wikipedia's '''Three''' Edit Rule, this decision was unfair. You can check Saix's edit history. Each of them reverted the edits only ''twice''. But I digress, you're right, I'll leave it there. I certainly don't want to make an enemy out of you, I just felt the decision was unfair. No hard feelings I hope?}}
{{DTN|time=05:55, February 17, 2010 (UTC)|text=Just as I have said [[Forum:A dedication to everyone|here]], the community is bound to have conflicts and disputes. You interpret Wikipedia's "Three Revert Rule" differently than I do, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. We have a very large community on this wiki, we are naturally bound to have more conflicts like this one because of that. We generally follow Wikipedia's example on rules and policy, such as their policy on [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Assume good faith|Assuming good faith]]. I certainly have no agressive or negative feelings toward you, and you have definitely not made an enemy out of me; after all, debate is a healthy and natural part of being part of a group of unified people working toward a goal.}}
{{BebopKate|time=20:59, February 17, 2010 (UTC)|text=I have a question, DTN: how long was it in-between ENX's last edit and the warnings you put on his and Werehog's pages?}}
{{DTN|time=23:35, February 17, 2010 (UTC)|text=EternalNothingnessXIII's last edit to the [[Saïx]] article was approximately seven minutes before I delivered the warnings to both Werehog21 and EternalNothingnessXIII's talk pages; both warnings were applied at the same time.}}
{{ZTG|small=Hi DTN. Don't get mad at me or anything, I am not questioning your power, but I can't understand why there was a warning involved. It makes no sense because it stopped immediatly after the explaination was given. He is devastated, and I am feeling upset for him, yet confused as to why it was recieved. Not to get on your bad side though.}}
{{NitrousX|text=I feel that ENX did not deserve a warning. That wasn't even close to edit-warring. He undid the edit '''TWICE''' and gave a place where the other user could look for an explanation. That does not deserve a warning and it doesn't deserve immature gossip on the IRC. This has gone way overboard. I pray that his warning will be taken away soon. I will go to every single admin about this until I get results. Reverting TWO edits does not deserve a warning.}}
{{DTN|time=02:34, February 18, 2010 (UTC)|text=I understand, ZexionTheGamer and Nitrous X, that you feel this action was unjustified and was a bad choice of mine. However, this is not only an issue that has nothing to deal with any of you, but it also is a choice that I already made, and I can't revoke the warning; only an administrator can remove an warning. My best advice to you is to let this play out in its natural, systematic manner. This is already taking place [[User talk:BebopKate|here]]. I do hope this issue can be immediately resolved, because it is taking away time and attention from myself, EternalNothingnessXIII, BebopKate, and other users who wish to express their opinion, even though the issue does not concern them at all.

Also, Nitrous X, I am completely unaware of any gossiping that took place on the IRC; what I do remember is that I was informing Super Sword-chucks and Maggosh of a recent event on the wiki, and I in no manner was putting down or thrashing EternalNothingnessXIII. '''Trust me''', I have been thrashed plenty of times on the wiki, I wouldn't turn around and bash another user. I respect EternalNothingnessXIII for his contributions to this wiki and the articles that he has started. I gave him the warning because it reflects what ''I'' consider to be an edit war, and if it gets revoked, then so be it. Then this whole conflict shall be resolved, and we can get back to editing, '''the real reason why we should all be here'''.}}

{{NitrousX|text=It deals with me me because a friend has been punished for no reason. You yourself said that edit-warring is defined as '''THREE''' edit reversions, while ENX only made '''TWO'''. 

In the matter of the IRC: I have seen word-for-word what happened that day on the IRC, through a Sticky Note-type source. There was gossiping, so using different wording to cover it won't work. What ''you'' consider to be an edit war isn't even what happened.}}
{{DTN|time=02:44, February 18, 2010 (UTC)|text=I myself do not remember defining an edit war before this; now please stop, everyone. I have a life to live, and it doesn't involve getting people's opinions on what I supposedly do wrong. Let enough be enough. This is a wiki, not a debate hall.}}