Editing User talk:Cococrash11

{{Welcome|[[User:Amy Cotton|Amalia]] 07:55, 28 May 2009 (UTC)}}

{{NikkieJay|text=Hi|time=01:04, October 14, 2009 (UTC)}}

The reason I changed because of the way you wrote it. It didn't make any sense.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 20:43, October 17, 2009 (UTC)

whats up--[[User:NikkieJay|NikkieJay]] 23:30, October 23, 2009 (UTC)

== Warning ==

{{Warning|reason=removing messages from other Users from your talk page|[[User:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:navy ;">'''Door'''</span>]][[User:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:dimgray ;">'''To'''</span>]][[User talk:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:darkslategray ;">'''Nothing'''</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/DoorToNothing|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=red>'''''Kupo!'''''</font>]]</sup> 04:40, October 29, 2009 (UTC)}}

{{TNE|time=04:52, October 29, 2009 (UTC)|text=Because deleting messages from your talk page is bad Wikiconduct. Try to imagine you want to get a point across, but they delete your messages ? How'd you feel ?}}

== Antagonist ==

Please read [[Talk:Antagonist]]. It is clear that you don't actually know what the term means, and you need to look it up before starting debates about it.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 15:03, November 8, 2009 (UTC)
Hello the Talk:Antagonist you give me doesn't exist.Cococrash11

== NO! ==

That article you wrote for Mission 00 was 100% wrong. Not a single thing on that article was correct, becuase you ''obviously'' had no idea what you were talking about. That is an actual mission, not just a cutscene. It seems clear to me that you haven't played ''Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days'', so please don't start adding what you think is correct without being sure. --[[User:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:navy ;">'''Door'''</span>]][[User:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:dimgray ;">'''To'''</span>]][[User talk:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:darkslategray ;">'''Nothing'''</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/DoorToNothing|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=red>'''''Kupo!'''''</font>]]</sup> 05:10, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

Wait a second its really a misson? I played the game and there isn't any missons you just talk to other members of the orgainzation and just some cutscence. You could a least change some of the information. How the heck its 100% wrong he didn't even have visits Twilight Town till Day 8. Cococrash11

== Grammar-Nazi ==

Cococrash11, I've been having to revise far too much of your writing on the Wiki concerning ''Kingdom Hearts coded''. In all truthfulness, your grammar is completely horrible, and it makes the writing very difficult to understand. Please, use proper grammar when adding information, or editting '''''anything''''' on this Wiki. We don't want our readers to have difficulty understanding information or see such bad writing as an example of what we consider acceptable. --[[User:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:navy ;">'''Door'''</span>]][[User:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:dimgray ;">'''To'''</span>]][[User talk:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:darkslategray ;">'''Nothing'''</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/DoorToNothing|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=red>'''''Kupo!'''''</font>]]</sup> 01:36, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
:Instead of posting straight to the article, where we have to revert it due to its faults, why don't you post it to the talk page, where other editors can help you revise and correct it before inserting it?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:29, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
::You also can leave information in the Forums or the [[Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]] for other editors to revise before actually editting the article. --[[User:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:navy ;">'''Door'''</span>]][[User:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:dimgray ;">'''To'''</span>]][[User talk:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:darkslategray ;">'''Nothing'''</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/DoorToNothing|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=red>'''''Kupo!'''''</font>]]</sup> 03:44, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

== Your Edits ==

{{Neumannz|text=<p>Except Riku <b>DID</b> wield Sora's Keyblade. In fact, he was supposed to be the one wielding it from the beginning.</p><p>As for the rest of your edits, you shouldn't make the section titles into links, it's bad form, and we're trying to use the Keyblade names, as opposed to "Riku's Keyblade" or "Roxas's Keyblades".</p><p>Seriously, you should try to trust that at least the admins know what they're talking about, and just <u>ask</u> if something makes sense before you change a page, especially if your edits were reverted.</p><p>This also applies to your edits on the Ventus, Aqua, and Terra pages.</p>|time=07:58, November 18, 2009 (UTC)}}

== Stop Editing....Seriously ==

{{NeutraVega|Your edits on here have been nothing short of what we generally consider a "clusterfuck."  Grammar and obvious lack of knowledge for the English language aside, your ''other'' edits consist of entirely outright wrong information, and unnecessary placement.  In excess, that is generally what we call "vandalism."  You really ought to stop, bro.}}

{{NeutraVega|I've yet to see these "improvements" of yours.  So far, all I've seen is destructive editing, or slapping in FALSE information.  But I'm always up for convincing.}}

{{NinjaSheik|text=Give it a rest, NeutraVega. You didn't have to be so harsh!}}

== Gangan ==

While the gangan scan does use "Bagu" (Bug), the [[:File:Debug_Mode_High-Speed_Stage_2.jpg|game itself]] uses "Bagu Burokku" (Bug Block).[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 20:38, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

== Realms ==

Ansem the Wise was banished to the Realm of Darkness, not the Realm of Nothingness. Please do not change the Realm issue on the articles for Ansem the Wise's apprentices. Thank you. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 04:50, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

==Editing==
{{EO|time=23:44, December 4, 2009 (UTC)|enraged=I've about had it with senseless edits on your behalf. I'm not going to warn you, but if we are to cooperate, I must ask you to stop!}}

==Talk Bubble==
{{LapisScarab|time=05:50, December 14, 2009 (UTC)|text=Hey, Cococrash, would you like a talk bubble? You've been here for a while and I noticed that you didn't have one. If you would like one, just tell me the character, quotes, and colors you want for it.}}

==Um......==
{{TNE|time=11:52, December 14, 2009 (UTC)|noel=I've observed your editing for the past one or two months. For starters, I'm glad that you're putting in an effort (not to mention that your edit count is quite good for a two-month period), but please build up on your grammar. Another tip : if a page has to be created, make sure that it has substantial information which is different from what you see on other pages. Like, creating a page for a new Heartless or a new Unversed is okay, creating Data Destiny Islands (when there already is a page on DI) is not.

Any questions, feel free to ping me. I'm not gonna antagonise you, and I'm gonna try and go all out to help you in the editing process.}}

==Sia==
''Warning retracted; see discussion on my talk page.'' [[User:BebopKate|<span style="color:mediumvioletred;">'''Bebop'''</span>]][[User talk:BebopKate|<span style="color:khaki;">'''Kate'''</span>]] 09:13, December 20, 2009 (UTC)

{{BebopKate|time=23:28, December 19, 2009 (UTC)|text=Cococrash, I can appreciate that you're trying to help out here, but I feel this needs to be repeated: do not make things up and post them here.  You've already been addressed on this a number of times by other wiki members, and it's time it stopped.

If Sia turns out to be his real name, that is fine and I will change it back.  But you need to understand, this is a wiki, not a forum or rumor mill; many people here work very hard to make sure our information is correct or fixed.  It makes it much harder on everyone when someone here is constantly adding incorrect information.}}

== Tripartite Mural ==

[[Roxas#Trivia]]. I uploaded it myself.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 04:57, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

==Re:Keyblade Wielder==
{{LapisScarab|time=18:29, December 21, 2009 (UTC)|text=Okay, I put my position on [[Talk:List of known Keyblade Wielders|the talk page]]. There isn't a whole lot we can do other than that.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=18:59, December 21, 2009 (UTC)|text=I suppose so. It seems as though the "fully chronological" method has already been implemented, which may mean that the discussion is closed, which is a little annoying.}}

==Re:Ventus's Appearances==
{{LapisScarab|time=03:34, December 22, 2009 (UTC)|text=I don't necessarily think Days counts as an appearance either. But like I said before, The Gathering and Birth by Sleep videos are not counted because they are essentially teaser trailers and not canon appearances.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=03:52, December 22, 2009 (UTC)|text=That's a little different. Unless it's an original Kingdom Hearts character, the first appearance is their actual first appearance (i.e. whatever movie or teelevision show they first appeared in). In the case of original KH characters, it is the first game they cannically appeared in.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=04:02, December 22, 2009 (UTC)|text=Well I don't know what to tell you about that. The Gathering and Birth by Sleep videos shouldn't count. Neither should the Another Side ones. I honestly don't know why it says that.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=04:11, December 22, 2009 (UTC)|text=Well then I may be wrong. Ask one of the admins. I'm really not feeling too well right now, so I'm going offline.}}
{{BebopKate|time=03:05, December 23, 2009 (UTC)|text=Hey, Cococrash, saw you had a question.  We count the first work where a character has a major role as their "First Apperance".  For Disney characters, this is, of course the movie or cartoon they first showed up in.  For game characters, this is the first time they had an active role in the main part of the game itself; therefore, teasers don't count.  

That said, perhaps Ven's should require some sort of special notation; although he didn't really do much more than stand there, but he did have a cameo in ''358/2 Days''.  Perhaps an asterisk or footnote would be good idea?  What do you think?  If so, we should work out with the other wiki members the best way to get the info across.}}

== Tell me... ==

{{LA|Vtext=so tell me, why exactly can't Xigbar, Xaldin, Vexen, Lexaeus and Zexion have Birth by Sleep subheadings? Saix has one, and Axel does too, but it's called his "Origin". I'm just curious as to whay you deleted that, thats all.}}
{{LA|Vtext=I understand. Hmm, I wonder why it's "wrong'? Its the truth. And sorry for being kind of snappy before.}}

== Empty Pages ==

{{neumannz|text=Don't make a page if you have nothing to fill it with. I don't care if it ''is'' called Keyblade Rider, just knowing the name doesn't earn it its own page. Everything we know about it can easily be covered on the Keyblade page. Can't you just wait until the game comes out before assuming there's enough to warrant a new page?|time=05:34, January 6, 2010 (UTC)}}

==Re:Vanitas and Sora==
{{LapisScarab|time=07:47, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=He's different from Xion in that we knew that Xion looked like Kairi from almost the very beginning, while Vanitas' face has been hidden. What he looks like is a major plot detail, and indicating that he is connected to Sora could potentially spoil something for other users.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=22:32, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=We're handling this differently because several users have asked that there not be ''any'' spoilers. There is still a debate going on about how long we're going to wait on the forums. I have seen the playthroughs and I know that you aren't making it up, but just hold on until after we reach a consensus.}}

== Re:Spoiler ==

The debate is still going on at the forums. Last time I heard, we weren't adding any spoilers due to the event with the DAYS translations last time. Also, while it is still being debated you don't add more info. until an answer is finalized. Though your info. is probably true and confirmed, just hang onto it until the spoiler debate has an answer.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 22:09, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

== I read the whole part ==

{{Randomnessity|text=I read the whole part yes, but this is something you should talk to KrytenKoro about not me. And if you ask me a question on my talk page please make a new section.}}
{{Randomnessity|talk=Please stop reverting. We like to have official sources. GAMEFAQS doesn't count. Also the articles were poorly edited.}}
{{Randomnessity|text=While I'm not sure what does work, the information will be added eventually. Just wait until there's a little more info, and we have more sources.

Please.}}

== Copying Info ==

That would be plagiarism, which is illegal. Also, the edit would probably be reverted or edited to prevent said plagiarism. You don't copy and paste the information from another site, you can get the information from another site, but re-word it/change it to not be the exact copy on the other site. In short: Don't copy/paste information.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 01:35, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Cococrash, I don't think you realize just how much work re-writing that section would be for ''anyone''. It's over twice the size of the original section. It also wasn't written from a neutral standpoint like information on en encyclopedia should be. I can take a look at it for you, but there'll probably be some big sections cut out.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 01:48, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I looked it over, and removing the sections that are just ''describing'' the world instead of talking about Days takes away a big chunk. Even bigger are the sections that aren't even talking about The World That Never Was, instead, they talk about the Organization members activities in Days. In short, what is on the page now is fine.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 02:03, January 16, 2010 (UTC)

== FAQ ==

It is not unreliable because of the person, it is unreliable simply because it's a gamefaq. Story information in this case should be derived from the scenes themselves: watch youtube.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 20:43, January 16, 2010 (UTC)
:I'll put it this way - any plot info that you add that is sourced to gamefaqs will be deleted. You should at the very least make the effort to watch the playthrough, so you can create an informed interpretation ''yourself''.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 07:34, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
:The video would document ''the actual game''. I can't understand why this is such a difficult concept for you.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 08:22, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

==Re:coded==
Normally I'd be glad to help you, but I have basically no clue what's going on in ''coded'', so I would have no point of reference to edit from. As for video evidence, it's simply more reliable to watch the playthrough rather than take someone's word for it. To be honest, I personally don't really trust khinsider beyond what it puts on its front page, but that's beside the point. ''coded'' isn't something I can really help with, sorry.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 18:04, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

== coded ==

None of the links you posted said anything about a pre-install episode or episode 8. Either provide direct sources, or stop adding speculation.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 19:07, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
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 {{NikkieJay|text=Hi|time=01:04, October 14, 2009 (UTC)}}
-The reason I changed because of the way you wrote it. It didn't make any sense.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:43, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
+The reason I changed because of the way you wrote it. It didn't make any sense.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 20:43, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
 whats up--[[User:NikkieJay|NikkieJay]] 23:30, October 23, 2009 (UTC)
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 Cococrash11, I've been having to revise far too much of your writing on the Wiki concerning ''Kingdom Hearts coded''. In all truthfulness, your grammar is completely horrible, and it makes the writing very difficult to understand. Please, use proper grammar when adding information, or editting '''''anything''''' on this Wiki. We don't want our readers to have difficulty understanding information or see such bad writing as an example of what we consider acceptable. --[[User:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:navy ;">'''Door'''</span>]][[User:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:dimgray ;">'''To'''</span>]][[User talk:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:darkslategray ;">'''Nothing'''</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/DoorToNothing|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=red>'''''Kupo!'''''</font>]]</sup> 01:36, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
 :Instead of posting straight to the article, where we have to revert it due to its faults, why don't you post it to the talk page, where other editors can help you revise and correct it before inserting it?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:29, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
-::You also can leave information in the Forums or the [[KHWiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]] for other editors to revise before actually editting the article. --[[User:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:navy ;">'''Door'''</span>]][[User:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:dimgray ;">'''To'''</span>]][[User talk:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:darkslategray ;">'''Nothing'''</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/DoorToNothing|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=red>'''''Kupo!'''''</font>]]</sup> 03:44, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
+::You also can leave information in the Forums or the [[Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Sandbox|Sandbox]] for other editors to revise before actually editting the article. --[[User:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:navy ;">'''Door'''</span>]][[User:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:dimgray ;">'''To'''</span>]][[User talk:DoorToNothing|<span style="color:darkslategray ;">'''Nothing'''</span>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/DoorToNothing|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=red>'''''Kupo!'''''</font>]]</sup> 03:44, November 14, 2009 (UTC)
 == Your Edits ==
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 :The video would document ''the actual game''. I can't understand why this is such a difficult concept for you.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 08:22, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
-== Re:coded ==
+==Re:coded==
 Normally I'd be glad to help you, but I have basically no clue what's going on in ''coded'', so I would have no point of reference to edit from. As for video evidence, it's simply more reliable to watch the playthrough rather than take someone's word for it. To be honest, I personally don't really trust khinsider beyond what it puts on its front page, but that's beside the point. ''coded'' isn't something I can really help with, sorry.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 18:04, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
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 None of the links you posted said anything about a pre-install episode or episode 8. Either provide direct sources, or stop adding speculation.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 19:07, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
-:I've seen that Heartstation is claiming a translation for Episode 8, so that's probably where all you guys got your claim. If you can get the source they are translating  from, that would be acceptable, but heartstation itself cannot be used as a source like that.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 22:46, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
-== Ventus's Homeworld==
-You're right that the Land of Departure isn't his homeworld, but I don't know if just the fact that his Awekening design shows the Keyblade Graveyard is enough proof that that is his homeworld. Was he created there, or did someone in the game mention that that is where he came from?--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 06:25, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
-That's very likely just because his home is important to his heart. That alone is not enough evidence that Ventus' home is the Graveyard. Look at [[Snow White]]'s Awakening emblem. It doesn't show her home world, just characters that are important to her history and personality.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 07:40, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
-[shrugs] Matbe the Graveyard's presence is hinting at something, but regardless, there's no evidence of what that is. And it doesn't matter how many different Keyblades are in the Graveyard. Those Keyblades don't have anything to do with Ventus' heart or the X-Blade.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 07:52, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
-== OK ==
-Well since you have a better argument I'm going to back off for now, see I'm reasonable lol.[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 04:55, January 29, 2010 (UTC)
-== Lingering Sentiment's Quotes ==
-Normally if a quote is already listed in an article it wouldn't be in the quotes section. I guess for the Lingering Sentiment's page, since its so small, they're trying to add as much info. possible. Why not ask Kryten? I do believe he was trying to downsize the quotes; your question will tie hand in hand with that.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 01:16, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
-If you're talking about the quotes: "Aqua... Ven... Keyblade... Who are you? I can feel it - we have met before. But when... No... it isn't you... It isn't you that I have chosen. Why isn't it him? Xe...ha...nort... Is that you? Xeha...nort... Xehanort!" and "Aqua....Ven....someday, I will end this." the quote aren't the same. the first one is from Final Mix + and the other is from BBS--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 01:54, January 30, 2010 (UTC)
-==Re:Wallpaper==
-{{LapisScarab|time=20:31, February 2, 2010 (UTC)|text=I remember seeing a discussion about that somewhere, but I don't remember where or exactly what date. The only one I can think of would be the North American release date, but I'm not sure.}}
-==Re:Awakening==
-Okay, put my opinion on there. And sure, I'd like to be friends! There's a huge snowstorm going on here and it's screwing with my connection, so I'm going offline for the night.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 03:52, February 6, 2010 (UTC)
-:Sorry about that, got my voice in for the other two. G'night.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 06:58, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
-==Kairi, Namine, Xion, Aqua, and ???==
-I'm not too sure of what the connection is. It's clear from the video that she does give Kairi something, but I can't read/speak Japanese, so I have no way of knowing what's really going on until the English release comes out.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 16:39, February 7, 2010 (UTC)
-== Episode 7 ==
-Could you please provide a video link, so that I can confirm the story bits?05:56, February 9, 2010 (UTC)
-==Re:Sora's Heartless==
-Everything we've learned abut Heartless so far seems to suggest that they are quite different from their complete beings, in the same manner as Nobody's being considered different characters. If we count Roxas, Sora's Nobody, as a character in all the games he's appeared in, I see no reason why Sora's Heartless wouldn't be a character in KHI. So, in short, I think he does count as a character.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 06:04, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
-Nothing I can really think of. I'm sick, so I'm not really feeling up to dealing with a debate right now. Personally I think that since Sora became a Heartless in KHI, which is why Roxas was created, that means Sora's Heartless is a character as well. But I dunno, Kryten's got to have his reasons.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 02:15, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
-:I agree with you except I don't think Sora' Heartless is quite like Xehanort's Heartless. Xehanort's Heartless is more prominent and is more human like while Sora became a Shadow.--'''''[[User:Randomnessity|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Random!</span>]][[User talk:Randomnessity|<span style="color:darkblue;">to a point!</span>]]''''' 20:31, February 12, 2010 (UTC)
-I still personally think he counts as a character, but it's a majority rules sort of thing here. If there are more users who think he isn't a character than users who think he ''is'' one, there's not much I can do. I do still agree with you, but I can't change people's minds.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 03:41, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
-:Yes I do. Just in a different way than Xehanort's Heartless. As you play as Sora's Heartless but he is never really named. It's the opposite for Xehanort's Heartless.--'''''[[User:Randomnessity|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Random!</span>]][[User talk:Randomnessity|<span style="color:darkblue;">to a point!</span>]]''''' 16:35, February 13, 2010 (UTC)
-Maybe, but that's sort of what just happened. You opened the discussion, and more people decided it was a form (i.e. they "voted" that it was a form).--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 04:11, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
-{{ZTG|small=Okay, I am sorry to butt in, but let's just close the discussion. No offense, but no one needs more hassel right?}}
-{{TNE|time=04:18, February 15, 2010 (UTC)|blahtext=Indeed, let's just get this over and done with. Smouldering fires need to be put out.}}
-{{ZTG|small=Can I use that TNE? I really like that phrase!}}
-It's not like there was an argument going on here, and that was what I was trying to get across to begin with. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough. The community already decided, there's not much else to do, and there's no point in continuing the thing.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 04:24, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
-{{ZTG|small=Sorry, butting in again, but look, the discussion is over. Everyone decided against it. I know you feel strongly about this, but you need to let it go. It won't help worrying about the past. You gotta look for what your going to do tomorrow, and the day after that. No?}}
-{{TNE|time=04:59, February 15, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=And yes, Zexxy, you can use that phrase. ^_^}}
-{{ZTG|small=Sexy Zexy, Sexy Zexy, more fun than a pillow fight! I don't know, it just sprouted into my small pea-brain!!}}
-==Look==
-{{ZTG|time=21:27, February 14, 2010 (UTC)|upset=look, the connection between the two isn't explained until the end when you-know-what happens. Every character has an awakening, so the video didn't help you much. Look, I am sorry, but it isn't explained until the end. Okay, End of story, see you later}}
-==Warning==
-{{warning2|{{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 03:42, February 15, 2010 (UTC)|reason=edit warring on the [[Sora's Heartless]] page}}
-I gave everyone a warning on the talk page and I am tired of having to deal with this argument.  I will not hesitate to give another one if I need to. {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 03:20, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
-==Archive==
-{{ZTG|small=Well, all I know is that it is when your talk page gets too full (about 30+ conversations), you will archive. It is where you get an image, then, you will take the previous talkpage, and save it somewhere else. If you need to archive, go to [[User:Terra Fae Odosson]]. She helped me archive, and she is a good friend! If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask!}}
-{{ZTG|small=The warnings are put in the previous archive along with all of the other conversations. Everything goes to the other page. Hey, why not try going to the user above, you look like you could use archiving yourself!}}
-{{ZTG|small=Oh, I am sorry, I didn't understand the question. No, warnings don't become inactive. If you were to recive one, the administrator would probably look through your archives to see if you have one. Sorry ='(}}