Editing User talk:BebopKate

{{BebopKate|text=Welcome to my talk page!  Leave me a message here if you have wiki concerns, want to give me cookies, or have a need to discuss corny J-pop music. ^_^}}

My talk page archives for 2008 are [[User_talk:BebopKate/Archive08|right here]].
My talk page archives for 2009 are likewise [[User_talk:BebopKate/Archive09|here]].

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== New Article ==

I just created the [[Memory]] article and was wondering if you had any ideas for improving it. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 01:17, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

:Wow...that's pretty bloody awesome actually.  Nothing I can see right now...just may need to change as more info about the games come out as always.  Nicely done. [[User:BebopKate|BebopKate]] 02:41, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
::Cool, thank you! [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 02:54, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

== Vandalism ==

{{Guardian Soul|text=24.98.201.200 keeps adding profanity to random articles, I've noticed it since yesterday.  You might want to handle it before it gets out of hand.}}

:Got it, thanks for the message. [[User:BebopKate|BebopKate]] 21:18, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

{{Guardian Soul|text=And now we have someone who's removing all content from pages: 68.95.134.115‎}}

== Problem With a User ==

Can you explain to me what [[User:Eliskuya2|Eliskuya's]] problem is? I tried to speak to him several times, once just to admonish him and other times to offer help to him. All times, no matter what I had to say, he ignored my messages and removed them from his talk page, and this is seriously irritating me. What's his deal? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 06:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
:Looking at his talk page history, it's not just me. Pretty much anyone who leaves him a message is ignored and has their message removed. I know Admins aren't supposed to police talk pages, but can you do something? I find this incredibly rude to other users and myself that he would act like this. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 06:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
::Yeah, I know what your talking about. She removed my messages not only on her/his talk page, but on somebody else's. [[User:Ultima The High Seraph|<span style="color:#4B0082 ;">'''Philip'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ultima The High Seraph|<span style="color:#8B008B  ;">'''Mccann'''</span>]] 07:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

{{troisnyxetienne|text=I've experienced that too. As one of his/her friends, I find it weird that this is happening. My dialogues were removed on his/her talk page once, and also on Bowser the Second's talk page. Is there a way to resolve this as amicably as possible (rather than blocking or the like) ?}}

{{Drake|time=16:07, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=She's removing messages on other people's talk pages too? Okay, I ''know'' that's against the rules, besides just being d!ckish.}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=I seriously wonder what could have gone wrong. I mean, everytime a part of the text is removed (especially mine), I wonder whether it was something I said.}}

{{Drake|time=16:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I felt the same way when I left him a couple messages and removed them. It bothered me, like "what did I do?". Then I saw an edit  to his userpage about "only accepting messages from his friends", and realized he was just being a jerk about it. As I said to Guardian Soul on the talk page:

"I try to have a friendly conversation with him, he ignores me, I ask why, he ignores me, I tell him I'm gonna report him to an Admin, he ignores me.....you tell me how I should feel."}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=Ow. That's..... sad. Thing is, he's lightened up towards me, no doubt, but the erasing of messages still continues. Sometimes we seriously wonder how to approach this class of people.}}

{{Drake|time=16:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I'm not even sure he was reading my messages before removing them. They got taken off the page too soon after I left them for them to be read.}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=Methinks he read them before removing. See, what happened yesterday was this : I helped [[User: Bowser the Second|Bowser the Second]] with his talk bubble/infobox template. It so happened that he pilfered Eliskuya2's template. And when I actually authorised it and said "share alike" - and told him how to configure the talk bubble and stuff, that message was removed. For the sake of clarity, I had to retype my message (it was long !) and instead of allowing him to touch Eliskuya2's templates, I allowed him to touch mine.}}

{{Drake|time=16:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Ah. Well, I can respect the reason, but not the action. Removing messages on talk pages other than your own still isn't a rule. And even if it isn't, it's still rude.

I also saw the message you left him on Xigbar's page. That's what I wanted to talk to him about too, his talk template. I offered to show him that he doesn't have to type out all that coding, but he ignored me, I asked why he removed my message, he ignored me, and it escalated.}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=Yeowch. Did he '''have''' to be that harsh ? 

I tried switching it to the normal talk bubble input (without all the coding) but it didn't seem to work.}}

{{Drake|time=16:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Oh, it's better, look at his user page. He has a hate list now in addition to a friend list. I had a hate list on my FF wiki page once, felt bad about it after a couple weeks and took it down.

Even now, I repeated to him that all I ever wanted was to talk to him about his talk bubble. He's yet to respond, and I sincerely doubt he will.

Anyway, I have to head out for a little bit, seeya in 15 min or so.}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=Sure. Catcha soon. Provided that I'm not asleep by then. Hit me at my talk page to continue. And BebopKate, if you're seeing this...... hope something can be done.}}

 

{{Guardian Soul|text="Quite honestly, you wrote right at the top of your discussion page telling people to come and talk to you, and if you're going to ignore the people who write on your wall, then you really should get rid of it, you're just being rude to the community. You definately should not be writing a list of jerks on your user page or deleting content on other people's discussion pages, if you don't like discussion pages, get your discussion page deleted, you're the one being a jerk by acting this way when people are only trying to help you."

That's what I wrote on his wall.  He then deleted the message, but he also got rid of the hate list.}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=Wow. So it was '''you''' who did that ? I salute you man. :-) Wonder how you got all the courage to tell him !}}

{{Guardian Soul|text=I have to be able to speak my opinions, I'm a mod at KHI, so I do that often. :)}}

{{Drake|time=17:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I applaude you, sir.}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=For a moment there I thought I was going to be in deep trouble for discussing here (because I keep a tab on Eliskuya2's page), but well. Guess our conscience is clear now.

Oh yeah, forgot you're a mod.}}

{{BebopKate|text=Oy gevalt.

No this is certainly not the first time I have had issues with his talk page.  Somewhere in his talk history are two warnings and a message from myself saying "Archive if you must, but stop clearing your talk page."  Looks like it's time to settle this.}}

{{Drake|time=05:49, 10 February 2009 (UTC)|text=You mean offer him a sacrifice to Illmater?

....sorry, I finished Icewind Dale II like, ten minutes ago, so I'm still in D&D mode. :p}}

{{BebopKate|text=Alright, messages are placed.  Let's see if we can work this out from here.

But, seriously folks, if someone asks you to stop leaving messages for them, just stop; it doesn't do anything other than aggravate them and make a situation worse.  If it's something dire, we'll work it out.  I mean, it's a wiki.  It's not like everything we type comes to life, which is too bad.  Because if it did, I would be chillin' at Destiny Islands with a cold drink instead of waking up at 7am every morning to go to work.

Speaking of which, now to crawl upstairs to bed before I go to slezzzzzzzzzz...}}

{{Drake|time=06:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Hold that thought, BK. He removed your message. Seems he didn't learn a thing.

Edit - I put the message back, five bucks says he removes it again. Ban him, I say at this point. If he's not going to listen to an Admin, he's not going to listen. Actions speak louder than words, so they say. Give him a day ban, hopefully that smartens him up.

Edit - As I was typing this message, he did indeed remove it again. Honestly, please ban him. We have better things to do with our time than police around this kid. He hasn't learned a thing, cut him loose.}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=''Oh pitié'', doesn’t he ever '''learn''' ?

Okay, if you have to act, if you '''have''' to give him the Zack Fair treatment, do as you see fit. Now, not a word of this to him. Never even tell him that I'm partaking in the discussion. I wouldn't want to sever ties with anyone.

Damn it, I feel bad. Just like, a few weeks ago I helped him outside the KHWiki, and today we're talking about this............}}

{{Drake|time=18:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I also ask, ban or no, that those silly little riddles be removed from his page. I'm tired of dealing with this kid.}}

{{BebopKate|text=Given him a week to think things over.  If he comes back and resumes his old habits, out he goes.

Geez, thought I'd given up all this drama when I stopped teaching.  Ah well...''c'est la internet!''  (With apologies to Troisnyxetienne for butchering the French language there. ^_^)}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=^_^ "Butchering" is too strict a word. You just gave it a minor cut. ''C'est l'internet''... ! and I hope he learns that quickly enough.}}

{{Xiggie|text=Hello, quite recently, I tried to give a tip to Eliskuya2 on his talk page, he used it and then erased it... I think that's rude, he didn't even say ''thanks'' or anything. Just saying this to you since you're having  this discussion.}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=oh dear. That's sad. I mean, at least give the other user a thank you or '''something''' !}}

{{Xiggie|text=Damm right! :P}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=Talk about lack of courtesy with a capital L. Hopefully by the time the one week is over, he'd turn over a new leaf. '''Or else !'''}}

{{Xiggie|text=I just hope that when he returns, he'll apologize to everyone and starts to be a ''"good"'' boy! because he is a fine editor, and the more of us the better, right :P}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=And even if I had to, I honestly feel bad about giving him the Zack Fair treatment.

(There's another user, [[User:Zack fair 007|Zack Fair 007]], who was banned for one month from KHWiki, and wrote a complete apology note on his userpage and left it for... I don't know how long. He's a fine editor too - only that right now, I don't know his whereabouts.)}}

{{Drake|time=19:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Zack Fair 007? He's on the Final Fantasy Wiki too, does the same sort of thing. Two or three times now, he's thrown a temper tantrum, screamed at people, let a message on his page he was leaving the Wiki, and comes back a week or so later to apologize. He's done it several times, I don't even take it seriously anymore when it happens.}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=(And he was hoping to meet me for an entirely French chat on my talk page !)

Which reminds me... I'm starting to wonder why no one dares yell at me, but when they get out of the KHWiki or when they approach other users, all the yelling begins. :-(}}

{{Xiggie|text=Hehe, why would anyone yell at you? you're so nice to everyone ;)}}

look I am sorry what I did back there I was just in a bad mood last week so can you guys forgive me?[[Special:Contributions/72.208.118.127|72.208.118.127]] 04:53, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

{{troisnyxetienne|text=With all my heart, yes. But who's on the line, there, please ?}}

{{Xiggie|text=I think it is Eliskuya himself!}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=Awwwww. It's '''gotta''' be him. ''Oui, je te pardonne.'' And once you return, we'd be more than happy to have you back. :-)}}

{{Xiggie|text=Eh, ditto! ;D}}

I was in a badmood so that's why my sister removed that stuff on my page don't ask anyway i'll just wait on a site when I get unbanned[[Special:Contributions/72.208.118.127|72.208.118.127]] 14:48, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

{{troisnyxetienne|text=Understood. I mean, sometimes, it takes quite a bit of self-control. I tell myself not to edit whenever I'm in a bad mood. But hey, guess things will go well once you return :-)}}


Hmmm! and Troisnyxet I was right after all xigbar ''was'' on that movie with terra,van and aqua I have the picture on my PC but I can't update it just yet I'll wait for a bit longer[[Special:Contributions/72.208.118.127|72.208.118.127]] 15:30, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

{{troisnyxetienne|text=That's great. Would like to see it once you're back. :-) Xiggie just asked permission from BK here about putting up a pic of "the new unknown" in KH:Coded, so I reckon if you just ask her once you return, then I guess she'll allow.}}

well lets get bebop hurry up then[[Special:Contributions/72.208.118.127|72.208.118.127]] 15:53, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

{{troisnyxetienne|text=Wait : BK : when does Eliskuya get back ?}}

yeah this is a long banned and I have a picture of xigbar[[Special:Contributions/72.208.118.127|72.208.118.127]] 16:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

{{BebopKate|text=Eliskuya was banned for a week, beginning sometime last Wednesday evening.  So at some point on this Wednesday evening, his ban will be lifted.

And you seem to be missing that the whole point of the ban was to give you time to stop and think about your actions towards the other editors of the wiki, Eliskuya, myself included.  The entire conversation above us is testament to that. Technically, I should have banned your IP as soon as you posted above, but since you seem to be willing to be constructive again, I will let it slide.  When your ban runs out on Wednesday, you can rejoin us as normal.}}

==Hello there==
{{Xiggie|text=Hello. Some days ago, I noticed a change in the Sora, Kairi, Donald, Keyblade and Kingdom Hearts article (see [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Sora&diff=56352&oldid=56319 Sora], [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kairi&diff=56353&oldid=56316 Kairi], [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Donald_Duck&diff=56699&oldid=56313 Donald], [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Keyblade&diff=56651&oldid=56314 Keyblade] and [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kingdom_Hearts&diff=56630&oldid=56315 Kingdom Hearts]. It was made by someone, his/her IP/username is [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/84.74.6.128 84.74.6.128]. Me and some other users fixed it (by ''undoing'' his/her work) but I think that someone (you?) should ban him/her from the wikia OR give him/her a warning (so that he/she won't do it again)... 

What do you say?}}

{{Xiggie|text=However, it looks like he/she only entered the wikia to do this and then he/she left... What I want to know, can he/she return and do it again  (he/she has a user account, right?)}}

{{BebopKate|text=Hi, Xiggie...welcome to the wiki.  Anyone is free to come and go through the wiki and edit unless they've been blocked, which it appears XienZo has beaten me to.  However, some people can change those IP addresses and can come back with a new address and edit again.  It does happen from time to time; the best thing you is exactly what you did: revert the edits and alert myself or XienZo so we can deal with them.  

Thanks for helping us out. ^_^}}

{{Xiggie|text=No problem :P}}

{{Xiggie|text=Hello again, seems that someone has mede a page called [[Kiri]]! I am pretty sure that someone just misspelled Kairi and created a new page! A bit later, I saw this [[Kiri]] name in the list of revealed characters in  [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kingdom_Hearts%3A_Birth_by_Sleep&diff=60004&oldid=59972 Birth by Sleep]. I think that you should delete the [[Kiri]] page :P}}

{{BebopKate|text=Thanks, got it. ^_^}}


An unknown user named 72.208.118.127‎ was vandalising articles hopefully you can help.[[User:Dark one|Dark one]] 01:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

{{Xiggie|text=he also wrote a message for me that I don't quite get! see [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Xiggie#hey_Xiggie this].

or wait, he's Eliskuya, isn't he? ohh, he was just apologizing!

eh, what did he vandalize?}}

==Kingdom hearts Coded==
{{Xiggie|text=hello. I have found a few scans of Kingdom hearts Coded (see [http://www.flickr.com/photos/35403026@N06/3278694133/in/set-72157613790728301/ 1], [http://www.flickr.com/photos/35403026@N06/3278712393/in/set-72157613790728301/ 2]) and I think that we should put up a picture of ''"the new unknown"'' (as I like to call him) on the [[Kingdom Hearts Coded]] page (or at least the talk page!) 

Just wanted to ask your permission :D}}
[[Image:The_"New_Unknown".png|thumb|left|389px|The New Unknown in Disney Castle]]

{{-}}

{{BebopKate|text=On the ''Coded'' page?  Fine by me.  A simple caption for the screenshot please, though...no nicknames until we get something official.  I've already been through that debate enough. ^_^

Seriously, I don't mind screenshots of new games at all, as long as they're official and of a decent resolution.  Heck, I like to see them, too.  Just remember at some point (probably the next major ''Birth by Sleep'' and/or ''358/2 Days'' update), we should start spoiler-marking everything new.}}

== Enemy Ships Ahoy! ==

{{ShadowXemnas
|time=AARRRRGH!
|text=Hello! I just finished creating pages for all the wanted enemy Gummi Ships of Kingdom Hearts II.  That oughta make your job a little easier. :)
}}

==I spotted another vandal...==

{{troisnyxetienne|text=[[User:ShadowXemnas|ShadowXemnas]] just undid the changes made by this recent vandal (his IP is 136.145.89.79).

[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Attack_Cards&diff=60846&oldid=60844 This] is how it was before ShadowXemnas edited it and alerted me.

Please take him out. Thanks.}}

{{BebopKate|text=Pffft...I'm more annoyed at the lack of grammar than the content, but it's done all the same. ^_^}}

== Scar's ghost ==

Please see [[Talk:Scar's Ghost]]. Thanks![[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 14:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

== Hiya ==

Can you have a chat with Guardian Soul please. He's adamant on adding spaces between the bullet points in the trivia section of [[Zexion]]'s page, when adding those spaces doesn't change the page's appearance in any appreciable way. It's just pointless excess coding, but he seems to think it makes a big difference. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 04:04, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
:Nevermind, he's not backing down and I've better things to do than fight for something so trivial. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 04:10, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

{{Guardian Soul|text=Take a look at my talk page, I print screened my proof.  Clearly, adding spaces between the trivia sentances makes a difference.  I had a hard time figuring out which facts were different sentances, and surely others will too.  Just because it doesn`t bother Drake doesn`t mean that it won`t be bothering other people, and it really isn`t a big deal to keep them seperated, so he should stop reverting them.}}


::See, here's the thing, before I leave to eat my dinner. Maybe there's other people who preferred the non-spaced version, and maybe to other people it ''is'' a big to keep them separated. I don't see what qualifies you to speak for what other people would prefer, which is why I brought this to an Admin. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 04:17, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

{{Guardian Soul|text=Having them so close together makes them look like one paragraph, which is wrong, because every new paragraph is supposed to be on every other line, that`s just how it works, it isn`t about preference.  Also, I think that Drake`s statement about people preferring them without spaces is ridiculous, seeing as how his argument in the first place was that spacing them makes no difference (which is wrong), which means that he didn`t even notice to even care if they were spaced or not.}}

I looked at the page before I edited it, and didn't notice the difference. Shows you how important it was. And if you want to get technical, paragraphs are also indented, I believe there's a certain length and structure they must be...point - the Trivia points aren't in paragraph format, and shouldn't be. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 04:44, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

{{Guardian Soul|text=Guess what?  Some people notice the difference, and some people get lost trying to read two different facts that are right on top of eachother, I did, which is exactly why it was a problem, which is exactly why it should be fixed.  Your way, there is a flaw that will get some readers lost, where is the flaw in spacing them?  I feel like you just want the spaces excluded so that you can get your way, it really makes no sense to leave it where some people could have a bit of trouble.  I`m going to bed anyways, admins can handle it, goodnight.}}

And your wanting the spaces included isn't because you want your way? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:02, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

{{Guardian Soul|text=Of course not, it`s about making it easier for people to follow.  Now I really have to go, later.}}

And for me it's about adding unnecessary coding and spacing to a page that looked fine before. Point is, I simply disagree with you. You prefer the page one way, I disagree. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

{{troisnyxetienne|text=Guys, guys, '''please !''' Instead of you two adding tension to this talk page, let BebopKate resolve it. I can't be having two good friends of mine in loggerheads with each other over a matter of spacing !}}

{{BebopKate|text=You two do realize you have added more to the database through the above than any amount of adding or taking away spacing would have, right? ^_^

I think I have a suggestion that will resolve (most) of this issue.  Instead of having a massive trivia section, how about integrating the information there into more appropriate areas in Zexion's article?  Most of it will fit in the other sections or can be made into other sections, and we won't be stuck with a massive cluttered bullet list at the bottom of the page.  Then, having a space between everything for readability wouldn't be as much of an issue when viewed in either regular or coding mode.

I'll be back late tomorrow due to work/hobby/friends, but I'll check in at some point.  I hope you two are able to work this out in the interim.}}

{{Drake|time=06:35, 20 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I'll try that and see what I can do.

You bring up another good point, Kate - some articles have horribly bloated Trivia sections. [[Axel]] is an excellent example of this.}}

{{Guardian Soul|text=That sounds reasonable, if the trivia facts weren't so long, they wouldn't look so close together.  There's quite a few to fix though.  Also, trois, don't worry about it.  I have nothing against Drake personally, it's only wiki business and nothing more.}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=Phew. For a moment there it seemed heated.}}

{{BebopKate|text=Looks good, guys...much easier to read now.  I'm kind of glad y'all brought this up, since I agree that some of the Trivia sections are ridiculously huge.  It gives us something else to improve upon.}}

== Eliskuya ==

{{Drake|time=22:55, 20 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Apparently, [[User:Eliskuya2|he's leaving]]. Not sure why...}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text='''WHAT ??!!!'''}}

{{Drake|time=01:37, 21 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I dunno. I left him a message about grammar and apostrophe uses, he said it wasn't him (the edit histories show it was him, of course), I pointed that out, and he said he was leaving. He proceeded to blank his user and talk pages.}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=This is sad!}}

{{BebopKate|text=Maybe he feels he needs a break from the wiki for now.  If he chooses not to share his reasons with us, its his business, though I hope its nothing serious.  And if he wants to come back and help us out, he's certainly welcome to.  That's the good thing about wikis...you can always come back when things calm down.}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=I guess. We'll have to give him some space.}}

{{Drake|time=21:44, 21 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Well, seems he's not gone, and he's still got that habit of removing messages. Hm....}}

==Which section were you talking about ?==
{{troisnyxetienne|text=I'm not sure where to vote in the '''Votes for Featured Media''' page. I'm a little lost.}}

{{BebopKate|text=Underneath the bit that says "Nominations are closed".  I realized how stupid it sounded after I'd saved it, but I was too tired to think of anything better. ^_^}}
{{MM841|The fear_Lilly allen|Could we not do something like this:

*[[King Mickey]] [[User:Ultima The High Seraph|<span style="color:#4B0082 ;">'''Ultima The'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ultima The High Seraph|<span style="color:#8B008B  ;">'''High Seraph'''</span>]] 11:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
#vote. sig
*[[Riku]] [[user:troisnyxetienne|troisnyxetienne]](2009.01.01, 21:44 - +08:00GMT)
#vote. sig
*[[Dragoon]] [[User:Guardian Soul|<span style="color:#4B0082 ;">'''Guardian Soul'''</span>]] 19:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
#vote. sig
*[[Chernabog]] [[User:SleepingDragon7|SleepingDragon7]] 9:36, 8 February 2009 (AEST)
#vote. sig
*[[Battle of 1000 Heartless]] [[User: SSHGL]]
#vote. sig}}

{{BebopKate|text=Yeah, that works, too. ^_^

I'm just happy people are actually paying attention to that page, truth be told.}}

== Image ==

{{Drake|time=07:13, 22 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Currently, [[:Image:ArmoredXemnas.PNG|this is the image]] being used in the [[Xemnas (Armor)]] article. Another user has uploaded [http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/kingdomhearts/images/archive/2/20/20090222070030!ArmoredXemnas.PNG this image] to replace it twice. Which image should we use? I'd personally prefer the first, since it illustrates the in-game concept and not the artwork - we had artwork used on the page before and people didn't like it.}}

{{BebopKate|text=Leaving a message on his talk page.  Might need to add something to the wiki Manual of Style about this, if it's not already there as well...

Also occurs to me we'll probably need to go clean out the art section again sometime soon. -_-

ETA: Okay, tinkered with the manual of style to add a media section.  Additions or suggestions are welcome. ^_^}}

{{Guardian Soul|text=I personally think that the artwork looks better, it seems more clear and official, but if it must be in-game we should at least add the artwork to the pages as well, either somewhere along the article or in a gallery at the bottom.  Oh and, btw, speaking of Xemnas.  I got my friend to go through the official KH2 strategy guide, and apparently the fight with the big dragon ship was never named the "Dragoon Ship," they just called it "Xemnas (Dragon)."  If Dragoon Ship isn't official, should we really give it that title?  It may have actually been called that at the start screen though, I should go check and see.<br>EDIT: Alright, I checked, and the start screen doesn't call it "Dragoon Ship" either, so I don't know where this name was taken from.}}

{{BebopKate|text=If the artwork vs. render is going be an issue again, perhaps its time for a community vote?  It is a wiki, things can change. ^_^ I myself confess a love for the artwork, but I also see where it's more consistent and easier to connect when something appears as it does in the game.

Honestly, I have no clue where Dragoon Ship came from...Ultimania, maybe?  Anyone want to enlighten us?  Incidentally, the official guide calls the Armored Xemnas battle "Xemnas on the throne".  Oh, the jokes we could make... ^_^}}

{{Drake|time=19:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I used the term "Dragoon ship" because that's the name I saw in the boss template. As for the artwork, the page now has a gallery on the bottom that displays both pieces of artwork we have.}}

{{Guardian Soul|text=We should still have a vote, I personally think that the artwork looks fantastic.

As for the guide, I'm pretty sure that the Xemnas forms were given names in the back of the book, if you have it you should look yourself.  The problem with "Dragoon Ship" is that we might be giving it an official name that's false.}}

== Featured media voting ==
{{MM841|Shake it- Metro Station|Are you alowed to vote for something that you nominated, since trois done it? I thought you would not be able to, since a nomination is like a vote.}}

{{BebopKate|text=Maybe trois didn't see the voting section.  No big deal...it's not like us sysops would count a user's vote twice anyway when they only can vote once.

We're going to have to get used to the voting thing again, so there will probably be some kinks here and there.}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=Ehehehe. Sorry. ^_^ I'll remember that next time.

EDIT : Say, I've got an idea ! Why not, after the nominations are closed, the sysop set up a poll widget which includes all the nominations, and '''then''' we all vote ? Fair and square, isn't it ? Better than the confusion of this current voting system.}}

==Me again==
{{Xiggie|text=Hi, [[User:Charmed-Jay|Charmed Jay]] has made a page called [[Enigma]]. It is Terra's Keyblade, or at least, he says it. What I want to ask: has that name been confirmed?}}

{{BebopKate|text=I haven't heard it personally, but I'm usually behind the times on these things.  We should see if he is able to provide a cite or source.}}

==gummi ships==

{{kingdom key 09|text=ive got some more gummi pics to add and will be avaliable soon.}}

==A little help with [[Oblivion World]]==
{{troisnyxetienne|text=Prior to my edits, from whatever info I saw there, that article was talking about a world, and not a Heartless. But all the templates at the bottom of the page are Heartless/enemy templates.

Please do check it out... and let me know what I should do next. Should I proceed to remove the Heartless-related templates ?}}

{{BebopKate|text=Yeah, I would remove the Heartless template.  Come to think of it, is Oblivion World the ''offical'' name?

Ye gads, I sound like a broken record... ^_^}}

{{troisnyxetienne|text=I don't even know. All I do know is that it's the place where the door to Kingdom Hearts was found.}}

{{Guardian Soul|text=Oblivion World is not a Heartless, it's just where the fight with Xehanort's Heartless takes place.  Same thing with Xemnas and Inexistent World, I don't know who thought they were Heartless, but they're wrong.}}

{{Well, looks like we haven't got our facts wrong...

Do us a favour, will you ? I think BebopKate has already taken out the Heartless templates (though I haven't checked the page myself). Please place location templates instead - like the ones you see at Awakening - thanks !}}

== [[Template talk:TalkTextTest2]] ==

Please see the request I made there. Thanks![[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 22:09, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

== Final Xemnas Image ==

I nominate that we use this image, because it's better quality than the current one [http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8402/1xemnastheinexistantwor.png Final Xemnas] [[User:Bowser the Second|Bowser the Second]] 11:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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+My talk page archives for 2008 are [[User_talk:BebopKate/Archive08|right here]].
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+== New Article ==
-== Friends, our power! ==
+I just created the [[Memory]] article and was wondering if you had any ideas for improving it. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 01:17, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
-{{Bluer|13:50, July 30, 2010 (UTC)|Felicitations! You, BebopKate, are now given the responsibility of a Bureaucrat, kupo. Let me be the first to welcome you on this harrowing journey, kupo, and we hope that you will persevere as we tread the dark waters that is Wikia. Congratulations on your bureaucracy, and good luck to us all - we really need it,}}
+:Wow...that's pretty bloody awesome actually.  Nothing I can see right now...just may need to change as more info about the games come out as always.  Nicely done. [[User:BebopKate|BebopKate]] 02:41, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
-{{TNE|time=13:56, July 30, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Félicitations, BK ! ^_^ You two will make a great team.}}
+::Cool, thank you! [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 02:54, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
-{{SilverCrono|time=13:58, July 30, 2010 (UTC)|happy=Congratulations, I know you'll do a great job. :)}}
-{{LapisScarab|time=14:07, July 30, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Congratulations BebopKate, you deserve it! <!--Odds are good that you will have to deal with at least one Pokemon joke. Brace yourself.-->}}
+== Vandalism ==
-{{ZACH|text=nice job BK hope you can come to the irc to chat sometime.}}
-{{R&D|time=15:22, July 30, 2010 (UTC)|happy=Congratulations, <s>BurgerKing</s> BebopKate :P. You trully deserver this position of trust.}}
+{{Guardian Soul|text=24.98.201.200 keeps adding profanity to random articles, I've noticed it since yesterday.  You might want to handle it before it gets out of hand.}}
-{{LevL|time=15:43, July 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=Congratulations, BebopKate!}}
-{{Dan da Man36|time=16:07, July 30, 2010 (UTC)|lion=Congratulations, BebopKate! You'll make a wonderful Bureaucrat!}}
+:Got it, thanks for the message. [[User:BebopKate|BebopKate]] 21:18, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
-{{EO|time=16:09, July 30, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=KateBebop! Congratulations! No one is more deserving of this honor than you! <small>Now you just need to use that power to get me admin rights (jk, but still) :P</small>}}
-{{Organization 13|happy=Congratulations!!!!! :D}}
+{{Guardian Soul|text=And now we have someone who's removing all content from pages: 68.95.134.115‎}}
-{{DTN|time=22:14, July 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=Through many of the community's rough times on the wiki, you have been a tremedous help to us morally and civilly, as well as a marvelous intellect on ''Sailor Moon'' during IRC discussion. Thank you so much for giving encouragement <s>almost</s> as strong as this:
-{{-}}
+== Problem With a User ==
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+Can you explain to me what [[User:Eliskuya2|Eliskuya's]] problem is? I tried to speak to him several times, once just to admonish him and other times to offer help to him. All times, no matter what I had to say, he ignored my messages and removed them from his talk page, and this is seriously irritating me. What's his deal? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 06:16, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
-d6wRkzCW5qI
+:Looking at his talk page history, it's not just me. Pretty much anyone who leaves him a message is ignored and has their message removed. I know Admins aren't supposed to police talk pages, but can you do something? I find this incredibly rude to other users and myself that he would act like this. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 06:25, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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+::Yeah, I know what your talking about. She removed my messages not only on her/his talk page, but on somebody else's. [[User:Ultima The High Seraph|<span style="color:#4B0082 ;">'''Philip'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ultima The High Seraph|<span style="color:#8B008B  ;">'''Mccann'''</span>]] 07:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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+{{troisnyxetienne|text=I've experienced that too. As one of his/her friends, I find it weird that this is happening. My dialogues were removed on his/her talk page once, and also on Bowser the Second's talk page. Is there a way to resolve this as amicably as possible (rather than blocking or the like) ?}}
-Congrats, Sailor-Bureaucrat BebopKate!
+{{Drake|time=16:07, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=She's removing messages on other people's talk pages too? Okay, I ''know'' that's against the rules, besides just being d!ckish.}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=I seriously wonder what could have gone wrong. I mean, everytime a part of the text is removed (especially mine), I wonder whether it was something I said.}}
+{{Drake|time=16:15, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I felt the same way when I left him a couple messages and removed them. It bothered me, like "what did I do?". Then I saw an edit  to his userpage about "only accepting messages from his friends", and realized he was just being a jerk about it. As I said to Guardian Soul on the talk page:
+"I try to have a friendly conversation with him, he ignores me, I ask why, he ignores me, I tell him I'm gonna report him to an Admin, he ignores me.....you tell me how I should feel."}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=Ow. That's..... sad. Thing is, he's lightened up towards me, no doubt, but the erasing of messages still continues. Sometimes we seriously wonder how to approach this class of people.}}
+{{Drake|time=16:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I'm not even sure he was reading my messages before removing them. They got taken off the page too soon after I left them for them to be read.}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=Methinks he read them before removing. See, what happened yesterday was this : I helped [[User: Bowser the Second|Bowser the Second]] with his talk bubble/infobox template. It so happened that he pilfered Eliskuya2's template. And when I actually authorised it and said "share alike" - and told him how to configure the talk bubble and stuff, that message was removed. For the sake of clarity, I had to retype my message (it was long !) and instead of allowing him to touch Eliskuya2's templates, I allowed him to touch mine.}}
+{{Drake|time=16:42, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Ah. Well, I can respect the reason, but not the action. Removing messages on talk pages other than your own still isn't a rule. And even if it isn't, it's still rude.
+I also saw the message you left him on Xigbar's page. That's what I wanted to talk to him about too, his talk template. I offered to show him that he doesn't have to type out all that coding, but he ignored me, I asked why he removed my message, he ignored me, and it escalated.}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=Yeowch. Did he '''have''' to be that harsh ?
+I tried switching it to the normal talk bubble input (without all the coding) but it didn't seem to work.}}
+{{Drake|time=16:51, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Oh, it's better, look at his user page. He has a hate list now in addition to a friend list. I had a hate list on my FF wiki page once, felt bad about it after a couple weeks and took it down.
+Even now, I repeated to him that all I ever wanted was to talk to him about his talk bubble. He's yet to respond, and I sincerely doubt he will.
+Anyway, I have to head out for a little bit, seeya in 15 min or so.}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=Sure. Catcha soon. Provided that I'm not asleep by then. Hit me at my talk page to continue. And BebopKate, if you're seeing this...... hope something can be done.}}
+{{Guardian Soul|text="Quite honestly, you wrote right at the top of your discussion page telling people to come and talk to you, and if you're going to ignore the people who write on your wall, then you really should get rid of it, you're just being rude to the community. You definately should not be writing a list of jerks on your user page or deleting content on other people's discussion pages, if you don't like discussion pages, get your discussion page deleted, you're the one being a jerk by acting this way when people are only trying to help you."
+That's what I wrote on his wall.  He then deleted the message, but he also got rid of the hate list.}}
-... Right flank, hut! To the rear... hut! Aww man, gotta love marching band.}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=Wow. So it was '''you''' who did that ? I salute you man. :-) Wonder how you got all the courage to tell him !}}
-{{BebopKate|time=17:13, July 31, 2010 (UTC)|text= *blushes* Aww, thank you guys.
+{{Guardian Soul|text=I have to be able to speak my opinions, I'm a mod at KHI, so I do that often. :)}}
-I'll do my best to keep doing the apparently decent job I'm doing.  As always, if you need my help...you know where to find me.
+{{Drake|time=17:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I applaude you, sir.}}
-And good grief, that's a lot to live up to in that video. O.o  (Hilarously, I can identify about 2/3rd of those clips.  Hooray for the cinemaphile!)}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=For a moment there I thought I was going to be in deep trouble for discussing here (because I keep a tab on Eliskuya2's page), but well. Guess our conscience is clear now.
-== Re:Forum:Wiki Thoughts - Please Read ==
+Oh yeah, forgot you're a mod.}}
-A few days ago, I sent TNE an essay I wrote on issues with the wiki, and I understand that she forwarded it to you. TNE was thinking of creating a forum akin to the one you just did, and that essay was going to be an integral part of what we were trying to do. I'm not too sure if I should post it there or not, and since it's your forum (and you've already read it), I'm asking for your approval or disapproval. {{KKDSig|1}}
-If you feel you need to post it, then that would be fine with me.  Actually, it was your essay and some conversations from TroisNyx that kind of inspired me to go forward my forum rant in the first place.  Just be careful about any direct accusations in that particular thread; we're going to have to work those out somewhere more appropriate.  {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 02:27, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
+{{BebopKate|text=Oy gevalt.
-== Re: Profile ==
+No this is certainly not the first time I have had issues with his talk page.  Somewhere in his talk history are two warnings and a message from myself saying "Archive if you must, but stop clearing your talk page."  Looks like it's time to settle this.}}
-Nice User page!
+{{Drake|time=05:49, 10 February 2009 (UTC)|text=You mean offer him a sacrifice to Illmater?
-By the way, do you live in Raleigh?
+....sorry, I finished Icewind Dale II like, ten minutes ago, so I'm still in D&D mode. :p}}
-([[User:TorranceMouse|TorranceMouse]] 22:22, August 1, 2010 (UTC))
+{{BebopKate|text=Alright, messages are placed.  Let's see if we can work this out from here.
-:Thanks.  Actually, I live in the Triad, about 90 miles west; I don't like to get more specific for personal security purposes.  My sister lives in the Triangle, though and I have tons of friends there, so I'm back and forth quite a bit. ^_^ {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 02:29, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
+But, seriously folks, if someone asks you to stop leaving messages for them, just stop; it doesn't do anything other than aggravate them and make a situation worse.  If it's something dire, we'll work it out.  I mean, it's a wiki.  It's not like everything we type comes to life, which is too bad.  Because if it did, I would be chillin' at Destiny Islands with a cold drink instead of waking up at 7am every morning to go to work.
-== IRC ==
+Speaking of which, now to crawl upstairs to bed before I go to slezzzzzzzzzz...}}
-{{EO|time=23:55, August 1, 2010 (UTC)|hooded=Please come ASAP.}}
+{{Drake|time=06:26, 10 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Hold that thought, BK. He removed your message. Seems he didn't learn a thing.
-== Hey there ==
+Edit - I put the message back, five bucks says he removes it again. Ban him, I say at this point. If he's not going to listen to an Admin, he's not going to listen. Actions speak louder than words, so they say. Give him a day ban, hopefully that smartens him up.
-{{Xion4ever|time=17:55, August 3, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=<small>This is really late. ^^;</small>
+Edit - As I was typing this message, he did indeed remove it again. Honestly, please ban him. We have better things to do with our time than police around this kid. He hasn't learned a thing, cut him loose.}}
-<big>Congrats for B-crat powers, Kate! ^_^</big>
-Awesome job, you deserve it! Thank you for everything you've done for the Wiki/IRC! <!--and myself. Your guidance with certain problems was most helpful and appreciated..Thank you.-->}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=''Oh pitié'', doesn’t he ever '''learn''' ?
-{{BebopKate|time=23:22, August 4, 2010 (UTC)|text=You're quite welcome on all counts, Xion.  I just hope I can live up to everyone's expectations...}}
+Okay, if you have to act, if you '''have''' to give him the Zack Fair treatment, do as you see fit. Now, not a word of this to him. Never even tell him that I'm partaking in the discussion. I wouldn't want to sever ties with anyone.
-== KHMedia ==
+Damn it, I feel bad. Just like, a few weeks ago I helped him outside the KHWiki, and today we're talking about this............}}
-Hey, I'm a staff member of a site called Kingdom Hearts Media, and I was wondering if we could affiliate with the KH Wikia. Here's the link:
+{{Drake|time=18:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I also ask, ban or no, that those silly little riddles be removed from his page. I'm tired of dealing with this kid.}}
-www.kingdomheartsmedia.com
+{{BebopKate|text=Given him a week to think things over.  If he comes back and resumes his old habits, out he goes.
-{{BebopKate|time=23:21, August 4, 2010 (UTC)|text=Hi there!  Sure, your site looks quite neat!
+Geez, thought I'd given up all this drama when I stopped teaching.  Ah well...''c'est la internet!''  (With apologies to Troisnyxetienne for butchering the French language there. ^_^)}}
-I'll let TroisNyx know so she can make you guys a card on the affiliates page.
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=^_^ "Butchering" is too strict a word. You just gave it a minor cut. ''C'est l'internet''... ! and I hope he learns that quickly enough.}}
-(Oh, and make sure you use <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> to sign your posts 'round here. ^_^)}}
+{{Xiggie|text=Hello, quite recently, I tried to give a tip to Eliskuya2 on his talk page, he used it and then erased it... I think that's rude, he didn't even say ''thanks'' or anything. Just saying this to you since you're having  this discussion.}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=oh dear. That's sad. I mean, at least give the other user a thank you or '''something''' !}}
-DaDarkDude edit
+{{Xiggie|text=Damm right! :P}}
- Heh, sorry about that. This is my first time typing up on a wiki, it's much tougher than I thought it would be.
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=Talk about lack of courtesy with a capital L. Hopefully by the time the one week is over, he'd turn over a new leaf. '''Or else !'''}}
-Anyways, sounds great! Is there any banner you have we can put? Or should we just put the site link in text? ^_^
-{{BebopKate|time=06:14, August 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=Text links are just fine.  Maybe a banner for affiliates is a project we can add.  Hmmm...}}
+{{Xiggie|text=I just hope that when he returns, he'll apologize to everyone and starts to be a ''"good"'' boy! because he is a fine editor, and the more of us the better, right :P}}
-== TNE ==
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=And even if I had to, I honestly feel bad about giving him the Zack Fair treatment.
-Could you or Blue please promote TNE and Neumannz to admin, as per the forum?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 15:49, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
+(There's another user, [[User:Zack fair 007|Zack Fair 007]], who was banned for one month from KHWiki, and wrote a complete apology note on his userpage and left it for... I don't know how long. He's a fine editor too - only that right now, I don't know his whereabouts.)}}
-Uh, Bluer posted that staff nominations and elections pretty much fall in the realm of bureaucrats now.  Twice, actually, in the Staff Reorganization topic.  Not because we want to take away any "powers", but because for the last six months, everyone's been spending way too much time discussing staff instead of editing the wiki or working on other stuff.  Since you are leaving, we probably will promote someone to replace you, but that's a conversation he and I really need to have first. {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 02:08, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
+{{Drake|time=19:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Zack Fair 007? He's on the Final Fantasy Wiki too, does the same sort of thing. Two or three times now, he's thrown a temper tantrum, screamed at people, let a message on his page he was leaving the Wiki, and comes back a week or so later to apologize. He's done it several times, I don't even take it seriously anymore when it happens.}}
-{{KrytenKoro|Oh! Sorry, I must have misunderstood his message.
-May I ask why, though? When I first asked Bluerfn about electing new staff, he said that it "needed to be more transparent, and I needed to show that it was the community wanted", so you can probably see how this new decision is confusing.}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=(And he was hoping to meet me for an entirely French chat on my talk page !)
-{{BebopKate|time=23:01, August 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=I think Bluer and I got very concerned with how much time was being dedicated to staff elections.  We had a huge conversation about it just now, and we had another massive one not two months ago.  He and I think, much as we value the input and opinions of everyone, that much too much time has been spent on it.
-It's also part of the wiki being a wiki, I think.  Some editors think there needs to be staff present ''all'' the time.  The fact is we can't.  We're not a massive wiki like FF Wiki.  We have lives; you know this quite well. ^_^  Adding more editors just to "cover the bases" really isn't going to help anything.  I think we just need to tighten our the skills of the current roster.  Also, some people are going to have to learn to be patient and help us control the situation until we can get here. ^_-
+Which reminds me... I'm starting to wonder why no one dares yell at me, but when they get out of the KHWiki or when they approach other users, all the yelling begins. :-(}}
-One other small concern is not in this case, but for the future.  There is a chance someone would try push an election through just so they can have a shot at being a staff member.  We're not trying to remain all-powerful, but we do want people to understand that being a staffer is nothing to be taken lightly, and is a position of responsibility, not superiority.
+{{Xiggie|text=Hehe, why would anyone yell at you? you're so nice to everyone ;)}}
-It's certainly nothing you did, Kryten, if that's your concern.  You've been very fair and reasonable in the situation, you handled the conversations well, and have made some great suggestions.  I don't know if promoting me was one of your better ideas, though... ^_^  Seriously, if anyone has any issues with this decision, you may kindly point them to Bluer or myself.}}
+look I am sorry what I did back there I was just in a bad mood last week so can you guys forgive me?[[Special:Contributions/72.208.118.127|72.208.118.127]] 04:53, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
-{{LapisScarab|time=23:46, August 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=<small>Well, since you said anyone.</small> It doesn't distract us any more than all the forums do. Even less so now that we've gotten to that actual voting. All users need to do is vote and be done with it. We do need more staff. From what I've seen, the only admin that really edits frequently is DTN. I know, real life, and I'm not belittling the admins that don't edit, and I don't expect them to be on all the time, but we still need active staff that will be on for longer than an hour or two a day.
-With all due respect, no matter how huge the discussion you and Bluerfn had was, two people shouldn't be the only ones to decide this.}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=With all my heart, yes. But who's on the line, there, please ?}}
--EDIT CONFLICT-
-{{KrytenKoro|In all honesty, when you look at the active staff, it's pretty bare bones. And without sounding full of myself, DTN and me did most of the "staff-only-can-do" work, and we're both much less active now.
-I think that, ''especially'' with BBS coming up, we need reliable staff that can monitor the recent additions, delete fake articles, move newly uploaded images, and in general battle "WikiKrakens". I understand that you and Blue are concerned about people spending time on the elections, but there's also the fact that right right now, there isn't much else to do - there is general cleanup, as there is at all times, but when BBS is released in English, we will be ''very'' hard up, and it will be difficult for the current staff to stay on top of the tide. I honestly think that this is the ideal time to get this out of the way, and prepare for "the storm ahead".
+{{Xiggie|text=I think it is Eliskuya himself!}}
-I hope this makes sense,
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=Awwwww. It's '''gotta''' be him. ''Oui, je te pardonne.'' And once you return, we'd be more than happy to have you back. :-)}}
-Jeeves}}
+{{Xiggie|text=Eh, ditto! ;D}}
-{{BebopKate|time=00:01, August 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=Indeed, I did say anyone. ^_^
-I would like to point out that we are using the discussion topics to help us decide.  We want someone who will work well with the wiki, too.
+I was in a badmood so that's why my sister removed that stuff on my page don't ask anyway i'll just wait on a site when I get unbanned[[Special:Contributions/72.208.118.127|72.208.118.127]] 14:48, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
-I'm very curious now, Lapis.  You say we don't edit.  By editing, do you mean mainspace edits, or anything in particular?  I just want to clarify this.}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=Understood. I mean, sometimes, it takes quite a bit of self-control. I tell myself not to edit whenever I'm in a bad mood. But hey, guess things will go well once you return :-)}}
-{{LapisScarab|time=00:10, August 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=I'm not saying you all flat-out don't edit, that would be a lie. I'm saying editing frequently, which I suppose would ammount to what I can see on the recent changes. You could very well be doing things that don't show up there (deleting images, blocking vandals, or whathaveyou), and if that's the case then I apologize. I haven't seen Ultima, HOO, or Guardian Soul on anything short of forums where they are requested. You and, to a lesser extent recently, Bluerfn are still a fair bit less active than say, DTN or KrytenKoro (though the latter will be inactive soon). Again, I totally understand ''why'' that is. Real life, work, whatever, and I don't have any problem with that, but the fact is that we're really going to need admins that have more free time very soon.}}
-{{DTN|time=02:19, August 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=Did someone say "DTN"?
-I do apologize for my recent inactivity. I have been incredibly busy this summer with marching band, <!--<3 <3 <3 <3 <3-->camps, a lovely vacation, and regular IRC babysitting (which is no longer the case). I've got a life, you guys know that. But honestly, when ''Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days'' came out, I don't remember a copious amount of fake articles and vandalism. There were a few here and there, but nothing that someone cannot ping an active admin about to take out. Also remember than certain inactive admins are available very often by IRC, sepcifically Hexedmagica. I think I've seen Ultima there too.
-My courses begin again soon, and I will not be able to remain my previous "full activity." I can still do what I can, though, should not be a problem to contact me for administrative purposes. An admin is just as much an editor as any other user, the only deciding factor that can relate an admin's activity to a need for more admins is how easily they can be contacted, and how often they can check the wiki. I should still be able to receive my watchlist updates from my phone and be on my laptop every day to keep up with the notifications, so I see no problem there. I don't think we truly need this staff election. A smaller one for ''Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep'' I would have agreed with, but not the induction of 2+ new admins and several new moderators. Patience needs to be learned, what is wrong with the amount of current staff activity now? Is the wiki crumbling down? Is there mass vandalism that cannot be stopped by admins? Are fake articles and information pouring in? The answer to all of these questions is a big "no". Even with ''Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep'', I do not think levels of vandalism and new editors will rise enough to require two new admins and several new mods. Heck, even just one new admin to replace the [[User:KrytenKoro|Grand Super Special Awesome King Administrator of Ridiculous Greatness]] would be enough, or promoting our two active mods up at the most.
+Hmmm! and Troisnyxet I was right after all xigbar ''was'' on that movie with terra,van and aqua I have the picture on my PC but I can't update it just yet I'll wait for a bit longer[[Special:Contributions/72.208.118.127|72.208.118.127]] 15:30, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
-Look at the ''Final Fantasy'' Wiki. You know how many active admins they have? No more than five or so. We certainly do not need a full set of, eventually, 10+ admins active on a ''smaller'', ''less active'' wiki.}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=That's great. Would like to see it once you're back. :-) Xiggie just asked permission from BK here about putting up a pic of "the new unknown" in KH:Coded, so I reckon if you just ask her once you return, then I guess she'll allow.}}
-{{LapisScarab|time=02:30, August 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=Just to point it out, the only person who opposed the addition of new admins and mods [[Forum:Staff Reorganization and the Goblet of...wait|when it was being discussed]] was Bluerfn. That includes Kate being "fine" with it and DTN "fully support"ing it.}}
-{{DTN|time=02:52, August 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yes, I will say that some viewpoints and statements have changed my decision on the issue. I still agree to adding a new admin or two, but I never supported adding a large load of new admins, and moderators that we are just going to bring up to administrators very quickly.}}
-{{BebopKate|time=03:09, August 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=As DTN said, a few people would have been fine.  Eight...that's a bit much.
-I've started a [[Forum:Staff Fiasco Explody Thread|new thread]] for this, so can we chuck it back over there for everyone to participate?}}
+well lets get bebop hurry up then[[Special:Contributions/72.208.118.127|72.208.118.127]] 15:53, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
-==IRC==
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=Wait : BK : when does Eliskuya get back ?}}
-{{EO|time=17:55, August 10, 2010 (UTC)|hooded=Please join me on the IRC ASAP.}}
-{{BebopKate|time=23:02, August 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=I have some chores/wedding stuff to work on first.  I'll try and drop by later tonight.}}
-{{EO|time=23:27, August 10, 2010 (UTC)|hooded=Oh, okay. It's just important you show up, as it regrettably relates to a previous discussion.}}
-== Consider ==
+yeah this is a long banned and I have a picture of xigbar[[Special:Contributions/72.208.118.127|72.208.118.127]] 16:00, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
-[[Realm of Light]] vs. [[whitewolf:World of Darkness|World of Darkness]]. Discuss. --[[User:IanWatson|Ian]] <sup>[[User talk:IanWatson|talk]]</sup> 00:46, August 11, 2010 (UTC)
+{{BebopKate|text=Eliskuya was banned for a week, beginning sometime last Wednesday evening.  So at some point on this Wednesday evening, his ban will be lifted.
-== welcome ==
+And you seem to be missing that the whole point of the ban was to give you time to stop and think about your actions towards the other editors of the wiki, Eliskuya, myself included.  The entire conversation above us is testament to that. Technically, I should have banned your IP as soon as you posted above, but since you seem to be willing to be constructive again, I will let it slide.  When your ban runs out on Wednesday, you can rejoin us as normal.}}
-hi
+==Hello there==
+{{Xiggie|text=Hello. Some days ago, I noticed a change in the Sora, Kairi, Donald, Keyblade and Kingdom Hearts article (see [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Sora&diff=56352&oldid=56319 Sora], [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kairi&diff=56353&oldid=56316 Kairi], [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Donald_Duck&diff=56699&oldid=56313 Donald], [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Keyblade&diff=56651&oldid=56314 Keyblade] and [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kingdom_Hearts&diff=56630&oldid=56315 Kingdom Hearts]. It was made by someone, his/her IP/username is [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/84.74.6.128 84.74.6.128]. Me and some other users fixed it (by ''undoing'' his/her work) but I think that someone (you?) should ban him/her from the wikia OR give him/her a warning (so that he/she won't do it again)...
-marioman86
+What do you say?}}
-== welcome ==
+{{Xiggie|text=However, it looks like he/she only entered the wikia to do this and then he/she left... What I want to know, can he/she return and do it again  (he/she has a user account, right?)}}
-hi
+{{BebopKate|text=Hi, Xiggie...welcome to the wiki.  Anyone is free to come and go through the wiki and edit unless they've been blocked, which it appears XienZo has beaten me to.  However, some people can change those IP addresses and can come back with a new address and edit again.  It does happen from time to time; the best thing you is exactly what you did: revert the edits and alert myself or XienZo so we can deal with them.
-== Um if you don't mind... ==
+Thanks for helping us out. ^_^}}
-Um...do you mind if I ask you a favor?I see you're busy but when you have time could please move my old userpage to my old one?(It's Firaga44,expect under a new username and I usually mess up moving articles...)
+{{Xiggie|text=No problem :P}}
-{{GeniusMage|text=Yep :p it's so good to be back :D KH Wiki i've missed you so. And i'd like it archived please :)}}
-==Oh dear, ''encore'' ?==
+{{Xiggie|text=Hello again, seems that someone has mede a page called [[Kiri]]! I am pretty sure that someone just misspelled Kairi and created a new page! A bit later, I saw this [[Kiri]] name in the list of revealed characters in  [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Kingdom_Hearts%3A_Birth_by_Sleep&diff=60004&oldid=59972 Birth by Sleep]. I think that you should delete the [[Kiri]] page :P}}
-{{TNE|time=15:27, August 15, 2010 (UTC)|sadtext=Please see [[User talk:KrytenKoro|this]] and [[Talk:Theater Mode|this]]. ''J'ai besoin de ton aide. C'est urgent.'' And pardon the French, but in a state of urgency, I'd type whichever comes to me first...... >_<}}
-== Deleted images ==
+{{BebopKate|text=Thanks, got it. ^_^}}
-I changed the images used in the articles to the standardized sprites that Shard had uploaded. I deleted most of the rips as "duplicated/superseded", but if you wanted to restore them and rename them to "X Detailed", like with the Champion Belt, that would make sense too. However, it looked really awkward for the weapon galleries to have 90% of the images in one style, with others in a different manner.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 01:45, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
-The others were slightly better quality images, though, since they gave a better look at the details of each...Premium Mushroom is a prime example.  In the front image, you can see details such as the XIII emblem, where as in the sprite, you can barely make it out.  I seriously doubt anyone really cares that much about how they appear in a gallery on what is basically an index page so long as they gave a better view of the item in question on the page of the actual item itself. {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 23:01, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
+An unknown user named 72.208.118.127‎ was vandalising articles hopefully you can help.[[User:Dark one|Dark one]] 01:57, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
-== IRC and a Reminder ==
+{{Xiggie|text=he also wrote a message for me that I don't quite get! see [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Xiggie#hey_Xiggie this].
-{{EO|time=01:28, August 21, 2010 (UTC)|text=Hello, Bebop. Been a while. I just came by to remind you about your promise to discuss with Bluer new admins and mods, as you said you'd reveal results on the 23rd, which is three days away. I've been working hard trying to "prove myself" these last two weeks or so, and I hope you approve!
+or wait, he's Eliskuya, isn't he? ohh, he was just apologizing!
-And on a side note, maggosh and I would like to invite you to the IRC for some friendly chatter.}}
+eh, what did he vandalize?}}
-{{BebopKate|time=21:21, August 21, 2010 (UTC)|text=Don't worry, I haven't forgotten.  I just sent a reminder to Bluer myself. ^_^
-I am going to try and be on tonight, though it will probably be late.  If not tonight, tomorrow for sure.}}
+==Kingdom hearts Coded==
-{{EO|time=15:56, August 22, 2010 (UTC)|text=This is late, but it doesn't really matter. Okay, glad you remembered ^_^
+{{Xiggie|text=hello. I have found a few scans of Kingdom hearts Coded (see [http://www.flickr.com/photos/35403026@N06/3278694133/in/set-72157613790728301/ 1], [http://www.flickr.com/photos/35403026@N06/3278712393/in/set-72157613790728301/ 2]) and I think that we should put up a picture of ''"the new unknown"'' (as I like to call him) on the [[Kingdom Hearts Coded]] page (or at least the talk page!)
-I didn't catch you Friday or Saturday night, so you just come on whenever you can and hope I'm there, all right? Thanks again for everything, KateBebop :P}}
+Just wanted to ask your permission :D}}
+[[Image:The_"New_Unknown".png|thumb|left|389px|The New Unknown in Disney Castle]]
-== IRC ==
+{{-}}
-I need to speak with you as soon as you are able to get on, please. Instructions on how to contact me can be found on my user page. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 02:05, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
+{{BebopKate|text=On the ''Coded'' page?  Fine by me.  A simple caption for the screenshot please, though...no nicknames until we get something official.  I've already been through that debate enough. ^_^
-Read your user page message...will try to be on IRC tonight or tomorrow, though probably quite late tonight if I can manage. {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 21:19, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
+Seriously, I don't mind screenshots of new games at all, as long as they're official and of a decent resolution.  Heck, I like to see them, too.  Just remember at some point (probably the next major ''Birth by Sleep'' and/or ''358/2 Days'' update), we should start spoiler-marking everything new.}}
-== ops ==
+== Enemy Ships Ahoy! ==
-hey Kate i was wondering if we could pick some new ops for the irc if you say yes how about before the end of the month or at the start of the next? Anyways hope you have a good day.--[[User:ZACH|ZACH]] 13:51, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
+{{ShadowXemnas
+|time=AARRRRGH!
+|text=Hello! I just finished creating pages for all the wanted enemy Gummi Ships of Kingdom Hearts II.  That oughta make your job a little easier. :)
+}}
-== ops ==
+==I spotted another vandal...==
-hey Kate i was wondering if we could pick some new ops for the irc if you say yes how about before the end of the month or at the start of the next? Anyways hope you have a good day.--[[User:ZACH|ZACH]] 13:51, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=[[User:ShadowXemnas|ShadowXemnas]] just undid the changes made by this recent vandal (his IP is 136.145.89.79).
-==E-mail confirmation?==
+[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Attack_Cards&diff=60846&oldid=60844 This] is how it was before ShadowXemnas edited it and alerted me.
-Hi, I have a question... The Wiki wants me to confirm my e-mail address, but I'm not receiving the e-mail I'm supposed to use to confirm. I'm positive the e-mail I have entered into "preferences" is correct. Is there any way to remedy this? [[User:Superdog1123|Superdog1123]] 00:12, August 22, 2010 (UTC)Superdog1123
-Hi, Superdog.  I would notify the staff at the main Wikia site; they handle the technical aspects of things. [[User:Angela|Angela]] can help direct you to the right people there.  I hope you get confirmed soon. {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 05:23, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
+Please take him out. Thanks.}}
-Okay, I will. And thanks! [[User:Superdog1123|Superdog1123]] 17:43, August 22, 2010 (UTC)Superdog1123
+{{BebopKate|text=Pffft...I'm more annoyed at the lack of grammar than the content, but it's done all the same. ^_^}}
-Umm... Sorry for jumping in right now but I kinda have the same problem. The thing is I had an account on here before and it has the same email as the one I got now. I created L&DR because I didnt know my old password. I also didnt know about sockpuppeting. So I think the reason I cant get my email confermed is because Im trying to hook up to the same email. Can you help BK??--{{User:Light&DarknessRuler/Sig}}00:04, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
+== Scar's ghost ==
-Hey there.  Again, that's a technical issue, and therefore the realm of Wikia and not me.  Try contacting Angela or another Wikia staffer to see what's going on. {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 03:15, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
+Please see [[Talk:Scar's Ghost]]. Thanks![[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 14:01, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
-== IRC ==
+== Hiya ==
-{{EO|time=03:53, August 24, 2010 (UTC)|hooded=Sometime soon, please. It's urgent.}}
+Can you have a chat with Guardian Soul please. He's adamant on adding spaces between the bullet points in the trivia section of [[Zexion]]'s page, when adding those spaces doesn't change the page's appearance in any appreciable way. It's just pointless excess coding, but he seems to think it makes a big difference. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 04:04, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
-{{EO|time=00:37, August 25, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Por favor? I've got something to show you :)}}
+:Nevermind, he's not backing down and I've better things to do than fight for something so trivial. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 04:10, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
-{{BebopKate|time=01:12, August 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=I'm sorry, I really wish I could, but I've got some stuff to catch up on tonight.  Tomorrow, perhaps?}}
-{{EO|time=01:17, August 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=Perhaps.}}
-{{Maggosh|nathan=Hey, perhaps we could chat?}}
-{{BebopKate|time=23:22, September 1, 2010 (UTC)|text=I really should be editing wedding photos...
->_> <_< >_>
+{{Guardian Soul|text=Take a look at my talk page, I print screened my proof.  Clearly, adding spaces between the trivia sentances makes a difference.  I had a hard time figuring out which facts were different sentances, and surely others will too.  Just because it doesn`t bother Drake doesn`t mean that it won`t be bothering other people, and it really isn`t a big deal to keep them seperated, so he should stop reverting them.}}
-Okay, maybe for a little while. ^_^}}
-{{Maggosh|nathan=Thank you. ^_^}}
-{{Maggosh|nathan=Hey, perhaps you're free to chat?}}
-{{BebopKate|time=22:56, September 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=I appreciate the offer, but I'm using some free time to check around since I've been a bit busy this weekend.  I'll be off again in a little while.
-I will try to come on tomorrow or Wednesday to hang with you guys while I play ''Birth by Sleep,'' though. ^_^}}
+::See, here's the thing, before I leave to eat my dinner. Maybe there's other people who preferred the non-spaced version, and maybe to other people it ''is'' a big to keep them separated. I don't see what qualifies you to speak for what other people would prefer, which is why I brought this to an Admin. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 04:17, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
-{{Maggosh|nathan=Okay. I appreciate it. ^_^}}
-{{Maggosh|nathan=Hey, I see you're online right now. How about a little chat?}}
-{{BebopKate|time=20:04, September 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=I'm actually getting ready to strike out for my grandmother's house; just jumping on for a moment to check on things and update my user page.  I appreciate the invite though.  Perhaps tomorrow?}}
-{{Maggosh|nathan=<nowiki>*</nowiki>sigh* Okay.}}
-{{Maggosh|nathan=Evening. Can you chat?}}
-{{Maggosh|nathan=Hey, regarding our appointment today; I'll be on at 8. I've got a Scout Registration for the next hour. See you then? ^_^
-EDIT 23:42, September 21, 2010 (UTC): Well that went quicker than I expected.}}
+{{Guardian Soul|text=Having them so close together makes them look like one paragraph, which is wrong, because every new paragraph is supposed to be on every other line, that`s just how it works, it isn`t about preference.  Also, I think that Drake`s statement about people preferring them without spaces is ridiculous, seeing as how his argument in the first place was that spacing them makes no difference (which is wrong), which means that he didn`t even notice to even care if they were spaced or not.}}
-== An affiliation. ==
+I looked at the page before I edited it, and didn't notice the difference. Shows you how important it was. And if you want to get technical, paragraphs are also indented, I believe there's a certain length and structure they must be...point - the Trivia points aren't in paragraph format, and shouldn't be. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 04:44, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
-Hi my name is GrandPyromania, and I am a Let's Player on youtube.
+{{Guardian Soul|text=Guess what?  Some people notice the difference, and some people get lost trying to read two different facts that are right on top of eachother, I did, which is exactly why it was a problem, which is exactly why it should be fixed.  Your way, there is a flaw that will get some readers lost, where is the flaw in spacing them?  I feel like you just want the spaces excluded so that you can get your way, it really makes no sense to leave it where some people could have a bit of trouble.  I`m going to bed anyways, admins can handle it, goodnight.}}
-Basically what a Let's Play is, is that it's a video walkthrough of a videogame, with the person's own commentary, to add instruction, and entertainment to the viewers. My current Let's Play is of Kingdom Hearts. I'm wondering if you guys would be interested in affiliating with me for the duration of this Let's Play, and any future Kingdom Hearts LPs. Basically what this affiliation would be, is that I would be able to use the resources that you guys have, such as information on bosses and heartless and whatnot, and you guys could promote me a little bit. And in return, I can tell people about your wikia, and every video description would say the title of your wikia, and a direct link to your wikia. Of course if you guys have a youtube page, I can put it in my affiliates box on my channel, and you guys can do the same. Please respond back, and I look forward to potentially working with you guys!
-''A link to my channel: [http://www.youtube.com/user/GrandPyromania My Channel]''
+And your wanting the spaces included isn't because you want your way? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:02, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
-[[User:GrandPyromania|GrandPyromania]] 22:39, August 24, 2010 (UTC)GrandPyromania
+{{Guardian Soul|text=Of course not, it`s about making it easier for people to follow.  Now I really have to go, later.}}
-:Was about to mention this to you, but Pyro did. :P Anyway. Thoughts ? He's done till Wonderland thus far, and he's begun on the 17th, but from what I've seen, it seems pretty solid. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 04:13, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
-::I'm soooo sorry...I don't know how I missed this before.  My apologies, Pyro. -_-;  I would be fine with it if other admins are. {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 02:49, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
+And for me it's about adding unnecessary coding and spacing to a page that looked fine before. Point is, I simply disagree with you. You prefer the page one way, I disagree. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 05:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
-I'm saying yes. ^_^ {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 03:43, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
-:A Youtube Channel! Now that's what the KHWiki shouldn't lack. Anyways, I'm fine with it. More chances in the spotlight. '''<font face="Trebuchet MS"><span style="background:#3300CC">[[User:Bluerfn|<span style="color:white"><sup>BLUER</sup></span>]]</span>[[User talk:Bluerfn|<span style="color:#CC0011">一番</span>]]</font>''' 09:05, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
-Haha, it's no problem at all Kate! So, we're all on the same page, and for the remainder of Kingdom Hearts I am an affiliate of the KH Wikia now, right?
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=Guys, guys, '''please !''' Instead of you two adding tension to this talk page, let BebopKate resolve it. I can't be having two good friends of mine in loggerheads with each other over a matter of spacing !}}
-[[User:GrandPyromania|GrandPyromania]] 09:27, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
-==Template:Fix==
+{{BebopKate|text=You two do realize you have added more to the database through the above than any amount of adding or taking away spacing would have, right? ^_^
-I was wondering if you are aware of the Fix template. This template, created two years ago and was declined by me and Hecko, is a work-all maintenance template that is able to combine our larger maintenance templates: the Cleanup, Expand, Images, References, Merge etc.. into one single template. Basically, by writing in the appropriate parameters, you can invoke the relevant categories without the larger templates.
-As a maintenance nazi, I'm split. At one side, I would use the Fix template and start getting them to work into our articles. It can accurately point out which statement needs a cleanup or a citation. This will also reduce the need to use fair-use images as in our larger maintenance templates. But on the downside, the Fix template seems to be of minimal use; not fairly suitable for deletion, or merge notices, among things. Plus, there'll be no more of those cute character quotes as well as avatars that grace our larger maintenance templates. Surely we can use both of them, but that just makes things redundant. I would have invoke the cry "This isn't Wikipedia!" but it's not relevant in this wiki.
+I think I have a suggestion that will resolve (most) of this issue.  Instead of having a massive trivia section, how about integrating the information there into more appropriate areas in Zexion's article?  Most of it will fit in the other sections or can be made into other sections, and we won't be stuck with a massive cluttered bullet list at the bottom of the page.  Then, having a space between everything for readability wouldn't be as much of an issue when viewed in either regular or coding mode.
-We had a discussion on this template on the discussion page. Try checking it out. Anyone who reads this are free to comment or act accordingly as well. Oh, and we had a discussion on my talk page about the relevant Fact template too. Have a look see, all right? Thank you. '''<font face="Trebuchet MS"><span style="background:#3300CC">[[User:Bluerfn|<span style="color:white"><sup>BLUER</sup></span>]]</span>[[User talk:Bluerfn|<span style="color:#CC0011">一番</span>]]</font>''' 09:05, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
+I'll be back late tomorrow due to work/hobby/friends, but I'll check in at some point.  I hope you two are able to work this out in the interim.}}
-:I like the idea...at least for articles that have a lot to fix, causing us to have an influx of character bubbles that push the article down to somewhere near the Google ads.  For one thing, not so much.  It's not very attention grabbing.  It doesn't scream, "I have put a big bubble here to remind you to get on this NOW!"  Also, much as I know about the fair-use issue, those little bubbles are kind of endearing.
+{{Drake|time=06:35, 20 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I'll try that and see what I can do.
-:Perhaps there's some happy medium...maybe a template called "multifix", where you can choose the issues and it displays them all in one convenient bubble?  A colorful, but iconless bubble to save space, but attract attention to the error of our ways?  A bubble where all can see and despair...wait, sorry.  That was something else.  Anyway, I'll think on it while I work on wedding prep stuff.  If a more organized discussion develops, shoot me a link, please? ^_^ {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 23:16, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
+You bring up another good point, Kate - some articles have horribly bloated Trivia sections. [[Axel]] is an excellent example of this.}}
-== [[KHWiki talk:Votes for featured users]] ==
+{{Guardian Soul|text=That sounds reasonable, if the trivia facts weren't so long, they wouldn't look so close together.  There's quite a few to fix though.  Also, trois, don't worry about it.  I have nothing against Drake personally, it's only wiki business and nothing more.}}
-[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 17:28, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=Phew. For a moment there it seemed heated.}}
-I'm seriously debating creating a Kingdom Hearts days Walkthrough to go with the CoM Walkthrough. I'm just checking to see if that'd be ok.--[[User:Terrarider|Terrarider]] 17:26, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
+{{BebopKate|text=Looks good, guys...much easier to read now.  I'm kind of glad y'all brought this up, since I agree that some of the Trivia sections are ridiculously huge.  It gives us something else to improve upon.}}
-==Je t'invite...==
+== Eliskuya ==
-{{TNE|time=05:53, September 7, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=You are cordially invited to our [[Forum:KHW Twitter ?|<font color="gold">Crazy Idea Party</font>]]. Don't forget to bring party poppers ! XD}}
+{{Drake|time=22:55, 20 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Apparently, [[User:Eliskuya2|he's leaving]]. Not sure why...}}
-== Walkthrough ==
+{{troisnyxetienne|text='''WHAT ??!!!'''}}
-Kate I'll be getting the intro page up today and I'll run through the tutorial missions and write down my notes afterwards.--[[User:Terrarider|Terrarider]] 19:37, September 7, 2010 (UTC)
-== Borrowing Userbox ==
+{{Drake|time=01:37, 21 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I dunno. I left him a message about grammar and apostrophe uses, he said it wasn't him (the edit histories show it was him, of course), I pointed that out, and he said he was leaving. He proceeded to blank his user and talk pages.}}
-Hey Kate! I noticed your Sheldon userbox (I'm a huge TBBT fan, by the way), and I was wondering if I could copypaste the coding to add to my own userbox collection. {{KKDSig|1}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=This is sad!}}
-:But of course!  Any of my userboxes are up for grabs.  We really need to make a Whose Line at some point, too. ^_^ {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 03:53, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
+{{BebopKate|text=Maybe he feels he needs a break from the wiki for now.  If he chooses not to share his reasons with us, its his business, though I hope its nothing serious.  And if he wants to come back and help us out, he's certainly welcome to.  That's the good thing about wikis...you can always come back when things calm down.}}
-== Irc help ==
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=I guess. We'll have to give him some space.}}
-Hi. Sorry to bug you but i cant log in to the irc. it wont let me any help would b helpful thanks--[[User:Riku&#39;s Love|I&#39;m so bored]] 03:59, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
+{{Drake|time=21:44, 21 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Well, seems he's not gone, and he's still got that habit of removing messages. Hm....}}
+==Which section were you talking about ?==
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=I'm not sure where to vote in the '''Votes for Featured Media''' page. I'm a little lost.}}
-I use freenode and it A.doesnt have the reCap thing and B.No connet button. Whats wrong with it? is it just me getting this? thanks for the help--[[User:Riku&#39;s Love|I&#39;m so bored]] 04:05, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
+{{BebopKate|text=Underneath the bit that says "Nominations are closed".  I realized how stupid it sounded after I'd saved it, but I was too tired to think of anything better. ^_^}}
+{{MM841|The fear_Lilly allen|Could we not do something like this:
-== Vandalizing ==
+*[[King Mickey]] [[User:Ultima The High Seraph|<span style="color:#4B0082 ;">'''Ultima The'''</span>]] [[User talk:Ultima The High Seraph|<span style="color:#8B008B  ;">'''High Seraph'''</span>]] 11:10, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
+#vote. sig
+*[[Riku]] [[user:troisnyxetienne|troisnyxetienne]](2009.01.01, 21:44 - +08:00GMT)
+#vote. sig
+*[[Dragoon]] [[User:Guardian Soul|<span style="color:#4B0082 ;">'''Guardian Soul'''</span>]] 19:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
+#vote. sig
+*[[Chernabog]] [[User:SleepingDragon7|SleepingDragon7]] 9:36, 8 February 2009 (AEST)
+#vote. sig
+*[[Battle of 1000 Heartless]] [[User: SSHGL]]
+#vote. sig}}
-I just want to say that unregistered contributor 68.209.88.190 made a page called [[Ventus awesome super grandma]]. --{{subst:User:Secret agent clank/sig}} 15:58, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
+{{BebopKate|text=Yeah, that works, too. ^_^
-==Halloween Talk Bubble==
+I'm just happy people are actually paying attention to that page, truth be told.}}
-{{LapisScarab|time=22:29, October 2, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Not kidding, that thing sent a chill down my spine for a second when I saw it. Quite possibly the best mixture of fear and hilarity I've ever experienced. Also, I love the Nostalgia Critic reference!}}
-== A Request ==
+== Image ==
-{{SC|time=14:03, October 3, 2010 (UTC)|text=Sorry to be so rude, but can you make me a holiday mobile sprite of Vanitas? It's getting to be that time of year... ^.^ Thanks, and if you can't, I understand.}}
+{{Drake|time=07:13, 22 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Currently, [[:Image:ArmoredXemnas.PNG|this is the image]] being used in the [[Xemnas (Armor)]] article. Another user has uploaded [http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/kingdomhearts/images/archive/2/20/20090222070030!ArmoredXemnas.PNG this image] to replace it twice. Which image should we use? I'd personally prefer the first, since it illustrates the in-game concept and not the artwork - we had artwork used on the page before and people didn't like it.}}
-{{BebopKate|time=01:17, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=Hey, SC, sorry it took so long to get back to you.  I'll probably do Christmas ones again closer to the season.  I'm afraid I'm a bit busy to do Halloween ones for everyone's right now, though.  Sorry.}}
+{{BebopKate|text=Leaving a message on his talk page.  Might need to add something to the wiki Manual of Style about this, if it's not already there as well...
-{{SC|time=02:22, October 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=No problem. It's okay, you have a life ^_^<!-- Unlike most of us here >_> -->}}
+Also occurs to me we'll probably need to go clean out the art section again sometime soon. -_-
-== Kingdom Hearts Ultimania ==
+ETA: Okay, tinkered with the manual of style to add a media section.  Additions or suggestions are welcome. ^_^}}
-Hi BebopKate,
+{{Guardian Soul|text=I personally think that the artwork looks better, it seems more clear and official, but if it must be in-game we should at least add the artwork to the pages as well, either somewhere along the article or in a gallery at the bottom.  Oh and, btw, speaking of Xemnas.  I got my friend to go through the official KH2 strategy guide, and apparently the fight with the big dragon ship was never named the "Dragoon Ship," they just called it "Xemnas (Dragon)."  If Dragoon Ship isn't official, should we really give it that title?  It may have actually been called that at the start screen though, I should go check and see.<br>EDIT: Alright, I checked, and the start screen doesn't call it "Dragoon Ship" either, so I don't know where this name was taken from.}}
-We'd be interesting in setting up an Affiliation/Link Exchange with KH Wikia if possible.
+{{BebopKate|text=If the artwork vs. render is going be an issue again, perhaps its time for a community vote?  It is a wiki, things can change. ^_^ I myself confess a love for the artwork, but I also see where it's more consistent and easier to connect when something appears as it does in the game.
-Please let me know your thoughts at pete@kh2.co.uk
-Thanks
+Honestly, I have no clue where Dragoon Ship came from...Ultimania, maybe?  Anyone want to enlighten us?  Incidentally, the official guide calls the Armored Xemnas battle "Xemnas on the throne".  Oh, the jokes we could make... ^_^}}
-Pete Campbell
-Hi, Pete.  Sorry it took so long to get back to you...real life and such.  I think we'd be happy to have an exchange with you guys.  Let us know what we need to do to complete our part of the bargain.  Thanks! {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 02:37, October 29, 2010 (UTC)
+{{Drake|time=19:25, 22 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I used the term "Dragoon ship" because that's the name I saw in the boss template. As for the artwork, the page now has a gallery on the bottom that displays both pieces of artwork we have.}}
-== Affiliation with KH wikia ==
+{{Guardian Soul|text=We should still have a vote, I personally think that the artwork looks fantastic.
-Hi I'm a Let's Player on youtube and a huge Kingdom Hearts fan. I know just about everything there is to know about Kingdom Hearts. I've already LPed KH1 and started to LP KH Re: Com but decided to reboot it soon. I have beaten every KH game released in the NA and Its easily my favorite video games series of all time. I want to be affiliated with the site simple out of a love for the series. I also hope to make detailed graphics for my Re: Com lp to explain cards types in detail. So I hope to hear from you soon!
+As for the guide, I'm pretty sure that the Xemnas forms were given names in the back of the book, if you have it you should look yourself.  The problem with "Dragoon Ship" is that we might be giving it an official name that's false.}}
-My Channel(In case you'd like to review it): http://www.youtube.com/user/TheAlexGriffin
+== Featured media voting ==
+{{MM841|Shake it- Metro Station|Are you alowed to vote for something that you nominated, since trois done it? I thought you would not be able to, since a nomination is like a vote.}}
-== Affiliation  ==
+{{BebopKate|text=Maybe trois didn't see the voting section.  No big deal...it's not like us sysops would count a user's vote twice anyway when they only can vote once.
-Hello, I am a Let's Player on Youtube in which I have become interested in becoming an affiliate with Kingdom Hearts Wiki. A Let's Play is basically a walk through with commentary, though not always. I plan on doing Kingdom Hearts for my next Let's Play and would like to become an affiliate with the community beforehand. I do play a lot of Kingdom Hearts myself. I do plan on 100%'ing the file. I have used the Wiki before but had only recently signed up. If I were to become an affiliate then I would use the resources you guys and gals provide on the Wiki and thus in return I would leave a link below in the info bar and I would also make an intro for the Let's Play mentioning the Wiki. I would also put you in my affiliate box if KH Wiki has a Youtube account. Anyways I hope to hear from you soon!
+We're going to have to get used to the voting thing again, so there will probably be some kinks here and there.}}
-Here's a link to my channel if you would like to review my content: http://www.youtube.com/user/shoddysilver/
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=Ehehehe. Sorry. ^_^ I'll remember that next time.
-[[User:ShoddySilver|ShoddySilver]] 00:23, November 1, 2010 (UTC) Shoddy Silver
+EDIT : Say, I've got an idea ! Why not, after the nominations are closed, the sysop set up a poll widget which includes all the nominations, and '''then''' we all vote ? Fair and square, isn't it ? Better than the confusion of this current voting system.}}
-==Hello==
+==Me again==
+{{Xiggie|text=Hi, [[User:Charmed-Jay|Charmed Jay]] has made a page called [[Enigma]]. It is Terra's Keyblade, or at least, he says it. What I want to ask: has that name been confirmed?}}
-Hi. My name is ANX219. I roam around on the wiki and see you all the time.  That's why I came. It's nice to meet you. You seem like a very nice person. It looks like being an admin and a bureaucrat is very cool. I wish I could be one. Just stopping by, ANX219. [[User:ANX219|ANX219]] 20:47, November 26, 2010 (UTC)
+{{BebopKate|text=I haven't heard it personally, but I'm usually behind the times on these things.  We should see if he is able to provide a cite or source.}}
-==Salut ! ^_^==
+==gummi ships==
-{{TNE|time=17:45, December 15, 2010 (UTC)|noel=I sorta got bugged to come and say hi to you now that I've returned. :D}}
-== Happy Festivus! ==
+{{kingdom key 09|text=ive got some more gummi pics to add and will be avaliable soon.}}
-{{Maggosh|nathan=http://i961.photobucket.com/albums/ae93/maggosh/festivus.jpg}}
+==A little help with [[Oblivion World]]==
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=Prior to my edits, from whatever info I saw there, that article was talking about a world, and not a Heartless. But all the templates at the bottom of the page are Heartless/enemy templates.
-== Merry Christmas! ==
+Please do check it out... and let me know what I should do next. Should I proceed to remove the Heartless-related templates ?}}
-{{Organization 13|xmas=Have a merry Christmas, BebopKate!}}
-== Ready to Retire? ==
+{{BebopKate|text=Yeah, I would remove the Heartless template.  Come to think of it, is Oblivion World the ''offical'' name?
-[[Forum:KHWiki Staff: Reverse/Rebirth|I strongly encourage you to view and reply to this forum.]] It has been a long time since you have significantly contributed to the ''Kingdom Hearts'' Wiki, and it has come to question whether or not you should remain listed as an active staff member. Because of this, we need to know if you have any plans to resume a higher activity of working on the wiki in the near future. Of course, your user rights and position will not be taken away if you plan on continuing your low activity. If you choose to return, everything will remain just as it was. Thanks! --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 08:25, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
-== Revote ==
+Ye gads, I sound like a broken record... ^_^}}
-{{Maggosh|nathan=Please vote [[Forum:Revote|here]], please. Thank you!}}
+{{troisnyxetienne|text=I don't even know. All I do know is that it's the place where the door to Kingdom Hearts was found.}}
-==khwiki.net==
+{{Guardian Soul|text=Oblivion World is not a Heartless, it's just where the fight with Xehanort's Heartless takes place.  Same thing with Xemnas and Inexistent World, I don't know who thought they were Heartless, but they're wrong.}}
-The new ''Kingdom Hearts'' Wiki just finished its installation at http://khwiki.net. However, we are unable to add staff-rights to your account until you sign in and make at least one edit, so if you want to be staff at the new site, please join the rollcall [http://khwiki.net/Forum:Staff_Rollcall here]. If you do not wish to work at the new site, either leave a declination notice, or simply avoid the site until 02/18/11, at which point we will hold staff elections as needed. However, if you show up after that date, you can still be repromoted if you wish.
-Thanks for all your cooperation, and I really hope you can make it to the new wiki. Cheers!{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 22:31, February 9, 2011 (UTC)
+{{Well, looks like we haven't got our facts wrong...
-== Adminship ==
+Do us a favour, will you ? I think BebopKate has already taken out the Heartless templates (though I haven't checked the page myself). Please place location templates instead - like the ones you see at Awakening - thanks !}}
-{{Maggosh|nathan=Hey Kate, long time no talk. Seeing as the move is all but finalized, and, Kryten's gonna leave, I was wondering if I could, possibly, be made admin here, seeing as you are one of the bureaucrats, when everything is set in stone. Thank you for your time.}}
+== [[Template talk:TalkTextTest2]] ==
-== Wikia ==
+Please see the request I made there. Thanks![[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 22:09, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
-I don't know if wikia contacted you about it, but they wanted you and bluerfn to do traditional promotions for the KH wikia as soon as you guys were active again; they only agreed to take my suggestion of maggosh as a pro tem measure, and wanted the permanent promotions to be decided by the community remaining at wikia. ('course, if you guys were going to promote maggosh anyway, then 's already done).
+== Final Xemnas Image ==
-Just wanted to let you know, since they were pretty...firm about that.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 10:18, 8 March 2011 (EST)
+I nominate that we use this image, because it's better quality than the current one [http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8402/1xemnastheinexistantwor.png Final Xemnas] [[User:Bowser the Second|Bowser the Second]] 11:08, 27 February 2009 (UTC)