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Now, I've advocated before, and continue to do so, that we should cover trailers as official from Square Enix and, like interview and the games themselves, canon and accurate until future information proves otherwise. I also think the way we cover the information from all sources regarding upcoming titles should be cautious, but acknowledging that the information has come out by Square Enix/Disney. So for example, while I wouldn't detail Vanitas's conversation in the D23 trailer, I would add to his article that he is set to return in ''Kingdom Hearts III''. And while I wouldn't go into too much detail yet on a Toy Story World or a new party member's abilities, Id definitely create articles for both [[Flynn Rider]] as a new party member in the [[Kingdom of Corona]], and explain in summary that in the [[Toy Story world]], Sora, Donald, and Goofy help party members [[Buzz Lightyear]] and [[Woody]] to find their missing friends and the Organization they believe is behind it. That's how I would cover trailer/pre-release information: Cautiously and vaguely, but I would cover it. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 20:03, 6 March 2018 (UTC) | Now, I've advocated before, and continue to do so, that we should cover trailers as official from Square Enix and, like interview and the games themselves, canon and accurate until future information proves otherwise. I also think the way we cover the information from all sources regarding upcoming titles should be cautious, but acknowledging that the information has come out by Square Enix/Disney. So for example, while I wouldn't detail Vanitas's conversation in the D23 trailer, I would add to his article that he is set to return in ''Kingdom Hearts III''. And while I wouldn't go into too much detail yet on a Toy Story World or a new party member's abilities, Id definitely create articles for both [[Flynn Rider]] as a new party member in the [[Kingdom of Corona]], and explain in summary that in the [[Toy Story world]], Sora, Donald, and Goofy help party members [[Buzz Lightyear]] and [[Woody]] to find their missing friends and the Organization they believe is behind it. That's how I would cover trailer/pre-release information: Cautiously and vaguely, but I would cover it. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 20:03, 6 March 2018 (UTC) | ||
:::::Not covering trailers doesn't make our information about KH3 incorrect. Incomplete, maybe, but in my opinion it's better to not put something on a page yet then to put false information on a page. I've looked at the history of the Aqua page, the most obvious character to appear in 0.2, and we didn't have any information about that game on it before release, except the game tag, and a section for it, because Aqua was confirmed in interviews. We never said Strelitzia was the fifth Union Leader either, only that she was chosen to be one, which is still correct. And sometimes information changes, or is "retconned", between games, which is why we need to correct that, but I wouldn't compare that to using trailers, as the retconned information was still from a released game. | :::::Not covering trailers doesn't make our information about KH3 incorrect. Incomplete, maybe, but in my opinion it's better to not put something on a page yet then to put false information on a page. I've looked at the history of the Aqua page, the most obvious character to appear in 0.2, and we didn't have any information about that game on it before release, except the game tag, and a section for it, because Aqua was confirmed in interviews. We never said Strelitzia was the fifth Union Leader either, only that she was chosen to be one, which is still correct. And sometimes information changes, or is "retconned", between games, which is why we need to correct that, but I wouldn't compare that to using trailers, as the retconned information was still from a released game. | ||
:::::I understand that the entire community may not be behind this, and if people want to change this, they have a right to vote on it (maybe create a forum for it, as we're kind of clogging up this talk page). And we've already agreed that people can make drafts for new worlds and characters (in KHWiki-space, in fact). You're saying you'd create a page for Flynn Rider, but | :::::I understand that the entire community may not be behind this, and if people want to change this, they have a right to vote on it (maybe create a forum for it, as we're kind of clogging up this talk page). And we've already agreed that people can make drafts for new worlds and characters (in KHWiki-space, in fact). You're saying you'd create a page for Flynn Rider, which you could create a draft for, but what exactly would be on the page? As far as I know, we haven't even seen him in person yet, only his HP sprite. So what could possibly go on the page? | ||
:::::Yes, information on wiki's often need to be corrected or improved, but I think it's important that we have a clear rule on what we will and won't cover based on trailers. If we start creating articles for characters we see, people might also create articles for Heartless, Keyblades, abilities, etc. If we were to go with covering stuff "cautiously and vaguely", that would be a very vague rule of itself, and not clear at all to what we want to cover and what we won't. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 12:27, 7 March 2018 (UTC) | :::::Yes, information on wiki's often need to be corrected or improved, but I think it's important that we have a clear rule on what we will and won't cover based on trailers. If we start creating articles for characters we see, people might also create articles for Heartless, Keyblades, abilities, etc. If we were to go with covering stuff "cautiously and vaguely", that would be a very vague rule of itself, and not clear at all to what we want to cover and what we won't. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 12:27, 7 March 2018 (UTC) | ||
:"First, despite supposed vast knowledge and experience, the wiki has ''always'' covered the details of unreleased game titles." -- yes, and we ''do'' cover the trailers and some of the revealed mechanics -- on specific pages quarantined from the rest of the wiki. We've also encouraged people to make draft articles to be approved once the games come out and the info can be verified. However, instead of that we just keep seeing people wanting to insert dead links into this template. | :"First, despite supposed vast knowledge and experience, the wiki has ''always'' covered the details of unreleased game titles." -- yes, and we ''do'' cover the trailers and some of the revealed mechanics -- on specific pages quarantined from the rest of the wiki. We've also encouraged people to make draft articles to be approved once the games come out and the info can be verified. However, instead of that we just keep seeing people wanting to insert dead links into this template. |