Editing Template talk:Journal

==Example==
{{Journal
 |char=Jiminy Cricket
 |journalKH=That's right, me again. I'm keeping a journal of everyone's adventures.<br><br>I also act as Pinocchio's conscience, so he'll know right from wrong.
 |appearKH=[[wikipedia:Pinocchio (1940 film)|Pinocchio]] (1940)
 |journalRR=Truly an enigma.<br><br>DiZ appeared before Riku in the guise of Ansem, presenting him with choices regarding the darkness within his heart.<br><br>It is said he and the king have met.
}}

==Problems==
{{KrytenKoro|
*As you can see, the template is quite tall. I'm not sure how to get it to be side-by-side, though if everyone likes it tall like this, never mind.
*The Jiminy image still needs to be fixed, if we even want to use it.
*The category switch needs to be implemented, and most importantly
*I can only get the entire box to hide, instead of each entry like [[User:Yuanchosaan/Sandbox]] does.
*IE is incompatible with many elements of Monaco's coding.

If anyone can help me fix these, I would be very grateful.}}

{{yer mom|text=''*fail*'' 
I still see the text to the right cut off. Someone said it was because that's the way it shows in IE. IE is plain evil. I do like how it looks like, makes the journal look nicer, even if I prefer how the journal entries look just the way they are right now.}}
{{MM841||sorry Krytenkoro, i dont like it. In fact, i think the idea itself is uselss. What we have now for journal entries works perfectly}}
{{KrytenKoro|I don't know how to convince you, then. To me, though, the current setup looks hideous - stuff like [[Beast]], where it looks more like a sprawl of text than a unified excerpt or page out of a book, or how there is no delineation of the "appears in" bit, making it seem like part of the actual story to someone unfamiliar with the character.

How about this - let me address the problems listed here (I'll need some coding help from Yuanchosaan, though), and I'll try it out on a sandbox page. Then we can see how it looks when in use. Deal?}}
{{TNE|text=Hm... as Azul said, the problem takes place among IE users. It wouldn't be practical for most of us to switch browsers (my RAM is already at boiling point), so can someone like, try edit this in IE until the text is clearly seen ?

Apparently, the same problem takes place with [[:Template:Messagebox]].

In my point of view, the Journal template isn't so bad... only that it needs an aesthetic change. It's because of the plain green colour (without anything else) and its width that I prefer the written-out journal entries a lot better. (I was thinking of the tables on [[User:Doc rocco|Rocco's]] user page, does that sound like a good idea ?)}}
{{MM841||The idea itself, a template for somethign so small, just seems superfluous}}
{{TNE|text=Hm....... I think for now, we'd best leave it as it is : text. The francophone wiki does the same too (at least for the Heartless).}}

{{yer mom|text=I prefer the text as well, the template looks funny next to the character's infobox. In an small screen (like the one I'm sadly using) the journal template doesn't seem to fit while in a larger screen it looks like there's too much empty space around.}}
{{TNE|text=@Azul, @Ultima, @BebopKate : Wikia templates don't come in liquid format do they ?}}
{{KrytenKoro|Why...why is there a poll?}}
{{yer mom|text=Because Azul put it there?}}
{{TNE|shocktext=Oh dear, looks like the future is bleak.

I'm beginning to wonder if Wikia templates (particularly those for Monaco) can be made for liquid layouts (i.e. depending on screen resolution) - at least we won't have to experience the problem of sizing the template right for all users.}}
{{KrytenKoro|I thought we were going to wait until I could get the basic problems removed before deciding whether to delete it, though. Why must it be decided now, before the thing is even in use?}}
{{TNE|text=Methinks a revamp is going on. But hey, isn't it already in use (at least in the Behemoth article) ?

P.S. Whilst you're at it, please do take a look at [[KHWiki talk:Manual of Style]] - remember the time you voiced out a few controversial rules ? I suggested a review and I need you to take a look.}}
{{Yuanchosaan|time=08:07, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
|text=Personally, I find the journal template superfluous, but Azul suggested a collapsible one and I decided to give it a shot. We can use percentage widths instead of set pixels so that it will scale to the size of the screen. Implementing the category should also be fairly simple. I'm not sure how to stop it from looking utteryly horrid in IE though (and it looks so nice in Firefox!)

However, I think we should remember that wikis should be kept accessible. The current template is extremely confusing for people who aren't good with code <small>(*points at self* ^^;)</small>, and text is the easiest for anon editors to access.

Sorry for the late reply, I've been very busy the past few days.}}
::Please see [[Template talk:Heartless/Draft]]. Ainz and me figured out a better way to do this that should address all of the concerns listed here, except for the IE incompatibility (which will just take testing). An example of the finished infobox is linked to from that talk page.[[Special:Contributions/128.211.179.75|128.211.179.75]] 15:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
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What to do?
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