Editing Talk:Xigbar

== Category ==

I do believe that Xigbar and the other members should go under Characters and Enemies.  I mean, that's what they are.  Human Characters is blatant, at the least; because then that opens up unneeded possibilities, such as Disney Characters.  And with most of the characters being from Disney, there isn't much point there.  As for enemies...  Well, that's what they are.  I know for somethings the Parent Category is bad.  But for others it makes sense; if somebody is just browsing, I doubt they'd go to each sub-category.  They'd just want to see who the enemies are, boss or no.  I do hope I'm making sense; this is REALLY hard for me to explain.  I have lost track of where it was taught to me, but...yeah.  I'm for the Characters and Enemies categories (though I guess you could already tell that, 'cause I'm the one who slipped them in there).  Woo.--[[User:Dreyfus2006|Dreyfus]] 04:16, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
*Well, they ''should'' go for the subcategories if they're browsing, since they're the first on the category pages, before the entries.  If they're looking for someone particular, they'll be easily categorized there, and if they're just browsing, the subcategory tree is actually designed for that in the Mediawiki software.  I'm not opposed to doing things differently for its own sake, but organizations with far more wiki experience than us do it this way across a large variety of wikis.
*Also, I was planning on making a Category:Disney Characters :(.  It doesn't seem like any "child" categories would be a bad idea unless they had too ''few'' members, not too many.
*And if these categories are included, they need to go in {{tname|InfoboxOrg13}}, not simply on this page, so they are included in all the Organization members' pages.  Still though, redundant categories in my opinion just lead to categories being less useful IMO (see my reply at [[KHW:DELETE#Category:Villains]], on a similar subject.)  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 04:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

==Help with the Data Replica==
{{TNE|text=Good grief, it seems I'm using the talk pages to ask for help more than anything else !

But honestly, I'm in dire need of help with Xigbar's Data Replica. Fine, I can get past Xigbar's first-person view, but beyond that, when he keeps on changing the shape of the Hall of Empty Melodies, my HP gets depleted so fast. So please, anyone who's finished it and finished it well, help me...}}

:Check Bizkit's vids, you can't get any better than that; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xlYZotba7U The point is spamming reflect to parry his gun arrows, so he gets stunned. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 04:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|remerciement=Thank youuuuuu. I'll try it out... that too, once I get my PS2 back. I owe you big time.}}

== Other Keyblade Masters ==

http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/scenario-mysteries-interview/comment-page-41/

"'''Question''': We’d like to inquire about the new secret movie “Birth By Sleep”. In the new event “The Truth about the Chamber of Sleep”, Xigbar mentions a “group that wields Keyblades”. Is he talking about the 3 armored people in the movie?

'''Nomura''': Yes, Xigbar witnessed them when he was a disciple to Ansem the Wise."

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I wonder, is it possible then, that Xigbar, Ansem and the other apprentices will appear in ''Birth by Sleep''? Maybe even be fought? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 06:10, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

{{Guardian Soul|text=I say that the chances of seeing Ansem's disciples in BBS are pretty high.  If they did witness the three Keyblade Masters, then I'm pretty sure that we'll encounter them, or at least some of them.  This is really the best chance that Nomura has to show them off anyhow.  Looking forward to seeing Ienzo.}}

{{TNE|text=If Xemnas and Xehanort bore a striking likeness to each other, then I guess I'll have to prepare to see Ienzo and Zexion having the same hair ! (I love Zexion's hair.)}}

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{{TNE|text= ohhhhh yesssss. :D Wonder if he still had that pirate eye back when he was still known as Braig...}}

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{{TNE|text=uh. yeah. :) }}

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|text=I find something ood about KHbirth by sleep. I just find Xigbar was on there. you know the Secret Movie from KH2. I think Xigbar was spying on Terra,ven and aqua. don't you think? 
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{{TNE|shocktext=I didn't notice. Wait, Xigbar was '''where''' ?}}

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|text=the Secret ending amiga. the one you have to unlock by beating the game on hard. I think Xigbar was right after all he "saw" those three
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{{TNE|text=Oh. That one. I get it. Thing is, I paid too much attention to the CG ^_^}}

{{Drake|time=16:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I'm actually wondering, what would be the context Xigbar meets them? Just observing them with Ansem, meeting them alone? I'm also wondering now, if the apprentices had their various elemental powers when they were human, or something like those powers.}}

{{TNE|text=Well, let's take a look at Xehanort and Roxas before we can make any deductions :

Roxas used the power of Light just like Sora. Xehanort.... well, he was darkness all the way through. So I reckon that the powers of the rest of the members (whilst they were still in human form) should be no different. Just guessing.}}

{{Drake|time=16:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=True. There'll probably be references to the powers of the other apprentices, like they'll carry their trademark weapons and such.}}

{{TNE|happytext=I can't wait to see how Braig looks like ! :D Now I'm somewhat confident that he'll be using snipers too.}}

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|text=here is what I was talking about [[Image:Xigbar_BBS.jpg|thumb]] don't you think thats xigbar?
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{{Drake|time=22:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Um, no, that's Master Xehanort. And why do you keep using ur talk bubble that way?

Also, welcome back.}}

{{Xiggie|text=Yep, that's Master Xehanort from the ending of [[The Gathering]] (or the beginning of [[Birth By Sleep]]). it's '''Not''' Xigbar. just watch the trailer!

also, you have a user template... why don't you use it?}}

I am not a pro of PCs or laptops xigg I am useing my step mother's anyway I was thinking it was xigbar but lets wait for troisnyx. T-T[[User:Eliskuya2|Eliskuya2]] 22:18, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

{{Xiggie|text=oh, I didn't mean to be disrespectful or anything... :P

if you wanna make your template: copy ours (mine, Drake's or troisnyx's) and replace our usernames with yours...}}

{{Guardian Soul|text=You don't need her opinion to be positive that the figure is Master Xehanort.  Watch the secret video, it shows him walking out of the shadow entirely.  Very old news.}}

{{Xiggie|text=was that picture all you had on your Xigbar-being-there theory?}}

Since Xigbar seems to know the most about the Keyblade War, and he doesn't really like Xemnas, I wonder if Xigbar was supposed to be a Keyblade wielder, but it chose Terra instead of him, and I think Terra turns into Xehanort... I guess we can only wait... --Morghman

{{NinjaSheik|text= Xigbar, a Keyblader wielder? No way. Xigbar's sweet and strong, but I don't know. He doesn't see like the kind of guy to master a Keyblade. I think Xigbar was there during the Keyblade War, or someone told him the story. Could be possible, right?}}

{{TNE|text='''Xigbar watched them when he was a disciple to Ansem the Wise.''' This was directly taken from Another Report. Could Xehanort have already been recruited by then ? Xehanort was the #1, anyway, and Braig was only second to him.

If we manage to fill in this loophole, then we can be sure that Terra is - or is not - Xehanort.}}

Check this out:
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/kingdom/days/

Xigbar and Demyx in higher quality


== Xigbar vs Ven (Xion) ==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZwk5zc71yg


one thing that bothered me about that: Xigbar got distracted upon seeing Xion as Ven, but his reaction to roxas' uncanny resemblance to Ven is not stated anywhere. (or maybe i just haven't encountered it -.-)--[[Special:Contributions/121.54.92.102|121.54.92.102]] 09:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Could someone tell me what he said at that moment, or in what day does it happen?

er, day 354, i think.

==Xigbar's Name==
I wonder if Xigbar's name is pronounced Shig-Bar, you know, like Mar-lu-Sha or Shi-on. [[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 17:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

{{NinjaSheik|text=No, I think it's pronounce Zig-Bar.}}

{{DoorToNothing|text=Agreed.}}

{{NinjaSheik|happy=Oh, hello, DTN! Tee hee hee! It's my new nickname for you, it's faster than saying your full name. Thanks for agreeing with me!

Oh, and I heard what Amy is doing. Is is really okay to get invovled with something like this, on a wiki we don't even go to?}}

{{DoorToNothing|text=I get called DTN alot. (: I'm actually hoping to change part of my template to DTN to make it faster to type. 

If you want to talk about this, we should talk on on of our talk pages.}}

{{NinjaSheik|happy=Oh, I see!

Our talk pages, huh? Mmm...Okay, then. Well, I don't know if you want to talk about it, now, but give me a ping on my talk page whenever you're ready! Is it a date, then? Tee hee hee!}}

{{DoorToNothing|text=Heh heh.}}

{{NinjaSheik|happy=Aww, you're so cute, Roxas! Tee hee hee!}}'''  '''

'''{{Pokhmon|time=19:50, January 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=its pronounced zigbar }} '''

== Taunting Sora ==
{{PrincessAndie|text= OK, where it says that Xigbar stayed to torture Sora, are we sure it's Xigbar? Cuz I just passed that point (I'm replaying the game) and I am sure that's Axel who bugs Sora, not Xigbar.}}
No. The voices are totally different. And you'll notice Xigbar asks again later in the game "Have you been a good boy?". That's Xigbar. -EO
{{Flashpenny | Nope, it's totally Xigbar. I can recognize his voice anywhere. That and he tells Sora to be a good boy and just before they fight he remarks, "Have you been a good point?" Also Axel had ditched the Organization by that point.}}

{{Template:ST|time=17:31, October 7, 2009 (UTC)|text=Besides, since when has Axel ever said "As if"?}}
{{Firaga44|text=Yeah it was definetly Xigbar who was taunting Sora.}}

==Nickname==

{{NinjaSheik|text=Should I put something in Xigbar's page that his nickname is Xiggy? In Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, Demy called him that. They seem to be best friends, too. Look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6U34vz5cNo&feature=channel here if you don't believe me.}}

That was rather surprising.--[[User:Super Sword-chucks|<font color="A9ACB6">'''天下'''</font>]][[User Talk: Super Sword-chucks|<font color="#6F7285">'''無双'''</font>]][[User:Super Sword-chucks/Userpage+|<font color="black">'''！！'''</font>]] 19:37, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

{{NinjaSheik|text=Which part? When Demyx called Xigbar Xiggy, or that the game in out on YouTube in English, already. I found out this morning. It's great, isn't it?}}
{{Firaga44|text=wow... i can imagine larxene doing that but demyx not really.}}
{{Super Sword-chucks|time=19:45, September 26, 2009 (UTC)|text=Mainly just Demyx calling Xigbar Xiggy and referring to Castle Oblivion as "C.O.".}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Is that all? Xiggy have always been Xigbar's nickname. I just thought it was made up for the fans, but it turns out that it wasn't. I'm happy to know that Demyx's called him that.}}
{{Super Sword-chucks|time=01:23, September 27, 2009 (UTC)|text=<!-- "Is that all?" somewhat offends me; like it makes me feel slow and stupid...--> Sure, I thought Xiggy was Xigbar's nickname, but never thought it'd come up in a conversation.}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you.}}

{{Pokhmon|time=19:52, January 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=i think its just demyx that calles xigbar ''xiggy'' }}

== Sora ==

When Xigbar told Sora "That's right! He used to give me that exact same look!" was he talking about Ven?
::No. He was talking about Roxas. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 20:07, October 24, 2009 (UTC)

I just thought that the comment Xigbar made to Xion when she had Ven's apperance and how Ven used looked at him was related to the one he made to Sora.

Are we really sure he meant Roxas? I mean it seems that way but Xigbar probably is the type to screw with someone like that.

Okay it could be that Ven is the originator of "the look" but Roxas (and Xion) continued it's usage up until He saw Sora in Radiant garden and decided to note the history of the situation.[[Special:Contributions/70.144.124.185|70.144.124.185]] 13:50, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

Have you guy seen the scene in BBS when Braig encounter Aqua and a frozen Ventus? He comments that Ventus have "a nice glare". He was talking about Ven.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 17:50, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

I disagree with you. Xigbar says "He ''used to'' give me that same exact look". He ''used to'', which means it happened more than once. I believe Braig met Ven only once, which means Xigbar was not talking about Ven. - [[User:LevL|<span style="color:orange">'''Lev'''</span>]][[User talk:LevL|<span style="color:deepskyblue">'''L'''</span>]] 18:52, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

== Days Fight ==

I was just wondering if we should make a small mention on the Xigbar enemy page about the battle in Days at the Coliseum ? i realise its a trivial battle and not that important but i do feel it sould atleast have a little mention/strategy. What do you people think ? [[User:Ximodnic|Ximodnic]] 01:07, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

==  "Ill Will"? ==
Something in the Personality section's bugging me. The idea that there's ill will between Xigbar and Xemnas and Saix seems like a bit of a stretch, as it's been shown that the numerical ranks aren't related to authority, which begs the question of why mention of Xigbar's rank is even in the Personality section. I'm going to make changes accoringly.[[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 23:43, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

That's fine with me.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 23:47, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It's actually FINE. Read the reasoning in the history. Xigbar's comedic, carefree nature is something viewed as "un-Nobody", especially for a Senior Member, and it's annoying to Xemnas and Saix, who take their ADMINISTRATIVE jobs seriously, and don't bother with the easier field missions that Xigbar takes. Both of these are PERSONALITY referances. Simply make the writing clearer. Don't erase it. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 23:52, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

How about if just the "Some have wondered" sentence is removed? That's really what's bugging me the most. It's just too speculative. We have no way of knowing if that is the reason Xigbar isn't given a lot of authority. But you're right about the rest of the section and after looking it over, it does fit. [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 04:13, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

::Exactly. REMOVE all speculation. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 09:12, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

== Ranking ==
{{Morghman| Okay, so get this! Originally, I thought Luxord was in charge after Saix, who Saix himself is in charge after Xemnas. But after playing Days, and noting how important Braig will be in Birth By Sleep, I'm starting to think Xigbar might be 3rd-in-command. Think about it, in KHII, Xigbar didn't really exhibit any leadership qualities. Then in Final Mix+, he kinda started showing he had some pull in the Organization. In Days, its definitely confirmed Xigbar has a higher ranking than the others. He is present in meetings between Xemnas and Saix, where he sort of gives advice to Xemnas, and even talks down to Saix, when Saix said he didn't see any problem with Xion. He's obviously powerful, as even Axel is surprised that he is struck down by Xion. Xigbar is also in charge of overseeing Roxas's growth, an important task needed for the Organization's goal. Even though Xigbar voices his spying on Xemnas going into the Room of Sleep, we've learned that even Saix and Xemnas are hiding things from each other. It has been confirmed who 2 of the 3 holograms Yen Sid shows Sora and company are Xemnas and Saix, and many believe the other hologram is Xigbar. This would show Yen Sid regards Xigbar in the same manner he does with Xemnas and Saix. Xigbar is also the last of the Organization, dying in The Castle That Never Was along with the other important members. Even as Braig, he shows his importance. Nomura has stated that Braig will have a more important role in Birth by Sleep than the other apprentices, second to only Xehanort. With all this evidence, I'd like permission to add this to the actual article, at least stating he has a more important role in the Organization than most members.}}

== First Appearance ==

Shouldn't Xigbar's first chronological appearance be in ''KHII Final Mix''? Since he mentions looking for new recruits, and all 13 members are present in ''KH Days'', then that surely comes before.


[[User:Samoth|Samoth]] 13:41, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
:That is not at all how that entry works.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 19:02, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

== accent ==


{{LapisScarab|time=20:03, January 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=I can only assume that it's to emphasize Xigbar's easygoing, lax personality. I actually hate that comparison, for both the reason you brought up snd the fact that just being a surfer would not automatically make your voice like that. Tried to remove it once but it got reverted.}}

{{Pokhmon|berserk=20:10, January 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=i got rid of it }}

== Resemblance ==

Ok, I was looking through my Kingdom Heaets 358/2 Days strategy guide when I noticed something. With the pointy ears, yellow eyes, doesn't Xigbar seem to resemble Master Xehanort?IS that worth noting? [[User:Vaddie|Vaddie]] 16:49, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
{{neumannz|time=16:51, March 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=Considering Braig had pointy ears and yellow eyes at the end of BBS, I'd say no.}}

      Yeah, but in titles after BBS he's aged and seems to look like Master Xehanort. Nomura even noted the resemblance in a recent interview.  http://forums.khinsider.com/spoilers/147009-bbs-ultimania-plot-mysteries-nomura-interview.html [[User:Vaddie|Vaddie]] 17:00, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

== ven or roxas ==

{{neumannz|time=17:29, March 28, 2010 (UTC)|text=Well, first off, why do you think it's Roxas over Ven?}}
{{LapisScarab|time=17:32, March 28, 2010 (UTC)|inverse=Please see [[User talk:Kingdom zachdawg|here]].}}
{{Xabryn|text=We're already discussing this on the IRC}}
{{LapisScarab|time=17:35, March 28, 2010 (UTC)|skinny=In that case, I'd advise you to take a look at my message on Kingdom zachdawg's talk page too.}}

== You'll probably find this stupid. ==

{{Maggosh|text=http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091113003151/finalfantasy/images/2/2a/DFF_Knight%27s_Arrow.png

Ultimecia's "Knight's Arrow" attack from Dissidia. The arrows can change direction once when they're fired. So can Xigbar's. Most likely irrelevant, but I wanted to point this out nonetheless.}}