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*And if these categories are included, they need to go in {{tname|InfoboxOrg13}}, not simply on this page, so they are included in all the Organization members' pages.  Still though, redundant categories in my opinion just lead to categories being less useful IMO (see my reply at [[KHW:DELETE#Category:Villains]], on a similar subject.)  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 04:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
*And if these categories are included, they need to go in {{tname|InfoboxOrg13}}, not simply on this page, so they are included in all the Organization members' pages.  Still though, redundant categories in my opinion just lead to categories being less useful IMO (see my reply at [[KHW:DELETE#Category:Villains]], on a similar subject.)  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 04:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)


== Xigbar vs Ven (Xion) ==
==Help with the Data Replica==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZwk5zc71yg
{{TNE|text=Good grief, it seems I'm using the talk pages to ask for help more than anything else !
 
But honestly, I'm in dire need of help with Xigbar's Data Replica. Fine, I can get past Xigbar's first-person view, but beyond that, when he keeps on changing the shape of the Hall of Empty Melodies, my HP gets depleted so fast. So please, anyone who's finished it and finished it well, help me...}}
 
:Check Bizkit's vids, you can't get any better than that; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xlYZotba7U The point is spamming reflect to parry his gun arrows, so he gets stunned. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 04:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 
{{TNE|remerciement=Thank youuuuuu. I'll try it out... that too, once I get my PS2 back. I owe you big time.}}
 
== Other Keyblade Masters ==
 
http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/scenario-mysteries-interview/comment-page-41/
 
"'''Question''': We’d like to inquire about the new secret movie “Birth By Sleep”. In the new event “The Truth about the Chamber of Sleep”, Xigbar mentions a “group that wields Keyblades”. Is he talking about the 3 armored people in the movie?
 
'''Nomura''': Yes, Xigbar witnessed them when he was a disciple to Ansem the Wise."
 
----
 
I wonder, is it possible then, that Xigbar, Ansem and the other apprentices will appear in ''Birth by Sleep''? Maybe even be fought? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]] 06:10, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
 
{{Guardian Soul|text=I say that the chances of seeing Ansem's disciples in BBS are pretty high.  If they did witness the three Keyblade Masters, then I'm pretty sure that we'll encounter them, or at least some of them.  This is really the best chance that Nomura has to show them off anyhow.  Looking forward to seeing Ienzo.}}
 
{{TNE|text=If Xemnas and Xehanort bore a striking likeness to each other, then I guess I'll have to prepare to see Ienzo and Zexion having the same hair ! (I love Zexion's hair.)}}
 
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{{TNE|text= ohhhhh yesssss. :D Wonder if he still had that pirate eye back when he was still known as Braig...}}
 
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{{TNE|text=uh. yeah. :) }}
 
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|text=I find something ood about KHbirth by sleep. I just find Xigbar was on there. you know the Secret Movie from KH2. I think Xigbar was spying on Terra,ven and aqua. don't you think?
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{{TNE|shocktext=I didn't notice. Wait, Xigbar was '''where''' ?}}
 
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|text=the Secret ending amiga. the one you have to unlock by beating the game on hard. I think Xigbar was right after all he "saw" those three
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{{TNE|text=Oh. That one. I get it. Thing is, I paid too much attention to the CG ^_^}}
 
{{Drake|time=16:11, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=I'm actually wondering, what would be the context Xigbar meets them? Just observing them with Ansem, meeting them alone? I'm also wondering now, if the apprentices had their various elemental powers when they were human, or something like those powers.}}


{{TNE|text=Well, let's take a look at Xehanort and Roxas before we can make any deductions :


one thing that bothered me about that: Xigbar got distracted upon seeing Xion as Ven, but his reaction to roxas' uncanny resemblance to Ven is not stated anywhere. (or maybe i just haven't encountered it -.-)--[[Special:Contributions/121.54.92.102|121.54.92.102]] 09:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
Roxas used the power of Light just like Sora. Xehanort.... well, he was darkness all the way through. So I reckon that the powers of the rest of the members (whilst they were still in human form) should be no different. Just guessing.}}


Could someone tell me what he said at that moment, or in what day does it happen?
{{Drake|time=16:20, 9 February 2009 (UTC)|text=True. There'll probably be references to the powers of the other apprentices, like they'll carry their trademark weapons and such.}}


er, day 354, i think.
{{TNE|happytext=I can't wait to see how Braig looks like ! :D Now I'm somewhat confident that he'll be using snipers too.}}


==Nickname==
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|text=here is what I was talking about [[Image:Xigbar_BBS.jpg|thumb]] don't you think thats xigbar?
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{{NinjaSheik|text=Should I put something in Xigbar's page that his nickname is Xiggy? In Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, Demy called him that. They seem to be best friends, too. Look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6U34vz5cNo&feature=channel here if you don't believe me.}}
{{Drake|time=22:06, 20 February 2009 (UTC)|text=Um, no, that's Master Xehanort. And why do you keep using ur talk bubble that way?


That was rather surprising.--[[User:Super Sword-chucks|<font color="A9ACB6">'''天下'''</font>]][[User Talk: Super Sword-chucks|<font color="#6F7285">'''無双'''</font>]][[User:Super Sword-chucks/Userpage+|<font color="black">'''!!'''</font>]] 19:37, September 26, 2009 (UTC)
Also, welcome back.}}


{{NinjaSheik|text=Which part? When Demyx called Xigbar Xiggy, or that the game in out on YouTube in English, already. I found out this morning. It's great, isn't it?}}
{{Xiggie|text=Yep, that's Master Xehanort from the ending of [[The Gathering]] (or the beginning of [[Birth By Sleep]]). it's '''Not''' Xigbar. just watch the trailer!
{{Firaga44|text=wow... i can imagine larxene doing that but demyx not really.}}
{{Super Sword-chucks|time=19:45, September 26, 2009 (UTC)|text=Mainly just Demyx calling Xigbar Xiggy and referring to Castle Oblivion as "C.O.".}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Is that all? Xiggy have always been Xigbar's nickname. I just thought it was made up for the fans, but it turns out that it wasn't. I'm happy to know that Demyx's called him that.}}
{{Super Sword-chucks|time=01:23, September 27, 2009 (UTC)|text=<!-- "Is that all?" somewhat offends me; like it makes me feel slow and stupid...--> Sure, I thought Xiggy was Xigbar's nickname, but never thought it'd come up in a conversation.}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you.}}


{{Pokhmon|time=19:52, January 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=i think its just demyx that calles xigbar ''xiggy'' }}
also, you have a user template... why don't you use it?}}


== Days Fight ==
I am not a pro of PCs or laptops xigg I am useing my step mother's anyway I was thinking it was xigbar but lets wait for troisnyx. T-T[[User:Eliskuya2|Eliskuya2]] 22:18, 20 February 2009 (UTC)


I was just wondering if we should make a small mention on the Xigbar enemy page about the battle in Days at the Coliseum ? i realise its a trivial battle and not that important but i do feel it sould atleast have a little mention/strategy. What do you people think ? [[User:Ximodnic|Ximodnic]] 01:07, October 25, 2009 (UTC)
{{Xiggie|text=oh, I didn't mean to be disrespectful or anything... :P


==  "Ill Will"? ==
if you wanna make your template: copy ours (mine, Drake's or troisnyx's) and replace our usernames with yours...}}
Something in the Personality section's bugging me. The idea that there's ill will between Xigbar and Xemnas and Saix seems like a bit of a stretch, as it's been shown that the numerical ranks aren't related to authority, which begs the question of why mention of Xigbar's rank is even in the Personality section. I'm going to make changes accoringly.[[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 23:43, November 18, 2009 (UTC)


That's fine with me.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:47, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
{{Guardian Soul|text=You don't need her opinion to be positive that the figure is Master Xehanort.  Watch the secret video, it shows him walking out of the shadow entirely.  Very old news.}}


It's actually FINE. Read the reasoning in the history. Xigbar's comedic, carefree nature is something viewed as "un-Nobody", especially for a Senior Member, and it's annoying to Xemnas and Saix, who take their ADMINISTRATIVE jobs seriously, and don't bother with the easier field missions that Xigbar takes. Both of these are PERSONALITY referances. Simply make the writing clearer. Don't erase it. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 23:52, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
{{Xiggie|text=was that picture all you had on your Xigbar-being-there theory?}}


How about if just the "Some have wondered" sentence is removed? That's really what's bugging me the most. It's just too speculative. We have no way of knowing if that is the reason Xigbar isn't given a lot of authority. But you're right about the rest of the section and after looking it over, it does fit. [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 04:13, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
Since Xigbar seems to know the most about the Keyblade War, and he doesn't really like Xemnas, I wonder if Xigbar was supposed to be a Keyblade wielder, but it chose Terra instead of him, and I think Terra turns into Xehanort... I guess we can only wait... --Morghman


::Exactly. REMOVE all speculation. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 09:12, November 19, 2009 (UTC)
{{NinjaSheik|text= Xigbar, a Keyblader wielder? No way. Xigbar's sweet and strong, but I don't know. He doesn't see like the kind of guy to master a Keyblade. I think Xigbar was there during the Keyblade War, or someone told him the story. Could be possible, right?}}


== First Appearance ==
{{TNE|text='''Xigbar watched them when he was a disciple to Ansem the Wise.''' This was directly taken from Another Report. Could Xehanort have already been recruited by then ? Xehanort was the #1, anyway, and Braig was only second to him.


Shouldn't Xigbar's first chronological appearance be in ''KHII Final Mix''? Since he mentions looking for new recruits, and all 13 members are present in ''KH Days'', then that surely comes before.
If we manage to fill in this loophole, then we can be sure that Terra is - or is not - Xehanort.}}


Check this out:
http://www.square-enix.co.jp/kingdom/days/


[[User:Samoth|Samoth]] 13:41, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
Xigbar and Demyx in higher quality
:That is not at all how that entry works.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 19:02, January 14, 2010 (UTC)


== accent ==


== Xigbar vs Ven (Xion) ==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZwk5zc71yg


{{LapisScarab|time=20:03, January 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=I can only assume that it's to emphasize Xigbar's easygoing, lax personality. I actually hate that comparison, for both the reason you brought up snd the fact that just being a surfer would not automatically make your voice like that. Tried to remove it once but it got reverted.}}


{{Pokhmon|berserk=20:10, January 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=i got rid of it }}
one thing that bothered me about that: Xigbar got distracted upon seeing Xion as Ven, but his reaction to roxas' uncanny resemblance to Ven is not stated anywhere. (or maybe i just haven't encountered it -.-)--[[Special:Contributions/121.54.92.102|121.54.92.102]] 09:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)


== Resemblance ==
Could someone tell me what he said at that moment, or in what day does it happen?


Ok, I was looking through my Kingdom Heaets 358/2 Days strategy guide when I noticed something. With the pointy ears, yellow eyes, doesn't Xigbar seem to resemble Master Xehanort?IS that worth noting? [[User:Vaddie|Vaddie]] 16:49, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
er, day 354, i think.
{{neumannz|time=16:51, March 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=Considering Braig had pointy ears and yellow eyes at the end of BBS, I'd say no.}}


      Yeah, but in titles after BBS he's aged and seems to look like Master Xehanort. Nomura even noted the resemblance in a recent interview.  http://forums.khinsider.com/spoilers/147009-bbs-ultimania-plot-mysteries-nomura-interview.html [[User:Vaddie|Vaddie]] 17:00, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
==Xigbar's Name==
I wonder if Xigbar's name is pronounced Shig-Bar, you know, like Mar-lu-Sha or Shi-on. [[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 17:47, 8 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1


== ven or roxas ==
{{NinjaSheik|text=No, I think it's pronounce Zig-Bar.}}


{{neumannz|time=17:29, March 28, 2010 (UTC)|text=Well, first off, why do you think it's Roxas over Ven?}}
{{DoorToNothing|text=Agreed.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=17:32, March 28, 2010 (UTC)|inverse=Please see [[User talk:Kingdom zachdawg|here]].}}
{{Xabryn|text=We're already discussing this on the IRC}}
{{LapisScarab|time=17:35, March 28, 2010 (UTC)|skinny=In that case, I'd advise you to take a look at my message on Kingdom zachdawg's talk page too.}}


== In the article ==
{{NinjaSheik|happy=Oh, hello, DTN! Tee hee hee! It's my new nickname for you, it's faster than saying your full name. Thanks for agreeing with me!


It says something about drowning a goldfish, what does that mean? Isn't that sorta impossible? ([[User:Bananaphone1996|Bananaphone1996]] 23:00, June 18, 2010 (UTC))
Oh, and I heard what Amy is doing. Is is really okay to get invovled with something like this, on a wiki we don't even go to?}}
{{Rucario|time=05:47, July 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=Xigbar said something similar to 'Why do you always have to stare at me like I drowned your goldfish' to Ventus as Xion in Days. So yeah.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=06:07, July 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=Fish filter oxygen from the water, so you can technically drown/suffocate them by putting them in an oxygen-deprived watersource, like the Dead Sea.}}


== KH2 Ven/Roxas Reference ==
{{DoorToNothing|text=I get called DTN alot. (: I'm actually hoping to change part of my template to DTN to make it faster to type.


{{Veroso|text= There's a scene in KH2 where he's talking to Sora and says "That's right. He used to give me that same exact look." His the "he" Ven or Roxas?}}
If you want to talk about this, we should talk on on of our talk pages.}}
{{Chitalian8|time=03:30, September 3, 2010 (UTC)|text= It's Ven.}}


Why not both?[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 16:17, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
{{NinjaSheik|happy=Oh, I see!


{{ST|text=because he said "he", not "they"}}
Our talk pages, huh? Mmm...Okay, then. Well, I don't know if you want to talk about it, now, but give me a ping on my talk page whenever you're ready! Is it a date, then? Tee hee hee!}}


Xigbar is a very deceitful individual. In his Secret Reports, he directly compares Roxas' face with Ven's and when he faces Xion asks why Ven 'always' looks at him like that, despite how he only actually met him once. It seems certain, to me at least, that "The look", is something that all four of them share when they encounter him. Some of the expressions on Roxas' face during some of the cutscenes in Days would lend credence to this, as well as the fact that I remember a statement on Nomura's part at the time of KH2's release that Xigbar meant Roxas.[[Special:Contributions/76.4.6.157|76.4.6.157]] 23:33, November 2, 2010 (UTC)
{{DoorToNothing|text=Heh heh.}}


== 2012 Special Trailer ==
{{NinjaSheik|happy=Aww, you're so cute, Roxas! Tee hee hee!}}


Why would we assume that is not Braig?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 20:52, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
== Taunting Sora ==
:Also, "and compares Sora's glare to Ventus's again." sounds pretty weak.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 22:12, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
{{PrincessAndie|text= OK, where it says that Xigbar stayed to torture Sora, are we sure it's Xigbar? Cuz I just passed that point (I'm replaying the game) and I am sure that's Axel who bugs Sora, not Xigbar.}}
No. The voices are totally different. And you'll notice Xigbar asks again later in the game "Have you been a good boy?". That's Xigbar. -EO
{{Flashpenny | Nope, it's totally Xigbar. I can recognize his voice anywhere. That and he tells Sora to be a good boy and just before they fight he remarks, "Have you been a good point?" Also Axel had ditched the Organization by that point.}}


== DDD? ==
{{Template:ST|time=17:31, October 7, 2009 (UTC)|text=Besides, since when has Axel ever said "As if"?}}
{{Firaga44|text=Yeah it was definetly Xigbar who was taunting Sora.}}


The credits credit Braig, not Xigbar. What proof do we have that Xigbar appears in the game at all?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
==Nickname==


I think there was scan at KHInsider that showed Xigbar next to Xehanort. I would link it to you, but I haven't been able to get in at the site for some reason.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 04:08, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
{{NinjaSheik|text=Should I put something in Xigbar's page that his nickname is Xiggy? In Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, Demy called him that. They seem to be best friends, too. Look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6U34vz5cNo&feature=channel here if you don't believe me.}}
:I'm going to guess that it's Braig in that scan, not Xigbar. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 04:30, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
::No, it's defiantly Xigbar. I remember it. It was in a low quality scan, with Xigbar next to Xheanort. But I can't find it on KHInsider.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:53, 31 March 2012 (UTC)


[http://kh13.com/zenphoto/articles/famitsu-weekly/march-22-2012/www.dotup.org2777464.jpg.php] here you go from KH13 though--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 20:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
That was rather surprising.--[[User:Super Sword-chucks|<font color="A9ACB6">'''天下'''</font>]][[User Talk: Super Sword-chucks|<font color="#6F7285">'''無双'''</font>]][[User:Super Sword-chucks/Userpage+|<font color="black">'''!!'''</font>]] 19:37, September 26, 2009 (UTC)


Oh, thanks, Xabryn-san! I didn't think of looking at KH13, probably because I'm used to going to KHInsider.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:03, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
{{NinjaSheik|text=Which part? When Demyx called Xigbar Xiggy, or that the game in out on YouTube in English, already. I found out this morning. It's great, isn't it?}}
:That shows that Xigbar was in the scans. What proof do we have that he was ''in the game''?
{{Firaga44|text=wow... i can imagine larxene doing that but demyx not really.}}
::And by this, I mean "where do they call him Xigbar, not Braig?"[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 21:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
{{Super Sword-chucks|time=19:45, September 26, 2009 (UTC)|text=Mainly just Demyx calling Xigbar Xiggy and referring to Castle Oblivion as "C.O.".}}
:::I know this isn't good enough, but his track in the OST is called Xigbar. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 22:22, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
{{NinjaSheik|text=Is that all? Xiggy have always been Xigbar's nickname. I just thought it was made up for the fans, but it turns out that it wasn't. I'm happy to know that Demyx's called him that.}}
The idea that Xigbar appears in DDD is patently false. Its Braig, not Xigbar. They look identical, but it is absolutely Braig. The same thing happens with Isa.
{{Super Sword-chucks|time=01:23, September 27, 2009 (UTC)|text=<!-- "Is that all?" somewhat offends me; like it makes me feel slow and stupid...--> Sure, I thought Xiggy was Xigbar's nickname, but never thought it'd come up in a conversation.}}
::Except that Young Xehanort straight up calls him Xigbar, and they explain that his heart was removed and replaced with a copy of Xehanort's. I don't see how any of the original Organization members can be anything but Nobody-Xehanort hybrids by now.
{{NinjaSheik|text=Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you.}}
::If you have Ultimania sources, we would ''love'' to hear them. But right now we have the game giving them specific names and explaining why they pretty much have to be Xigbar and Saix, not Braig and Isa.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 17:33, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


== Not Xigbar ==
== Sora ==
The credits only list Braig. Xigbar isn't in 3D.
:...what? Did you not read the section above? [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 00:44, 15 August 2012 (UTC)


== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freisch%C3%BCtz Freischütz] ==
When Xigbar told Sora "That's right! He used to give me that exact same look!" was he talking about Ven?
::No. He was talking about Roxas. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 20:07, October 24, 2009 (UTC)


Perhaps it's a stretch, but can we draw any similarities for an orgin section? (or something else worth mentioning?) {{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 08:07, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
::I just thought about that comment Xigbar made to Xion when she had Ven's apperance and how Ven looked at him.
:Xigbar's title is a direct reference to the legend, specifically in his ability to bend the trajectories of his bullets.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:26, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

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