Editing Talk:Xigbar

== Category ==

I do believe that Xigbar and the other members should go under Characters and Enemies.  I mean, that's what they are.  Human Characters is blatant, at the least; because then that opens up unneeded possibilities, such as Disney Characters.  And with most of the characters being from Disney, there isn't much point there.  As for enemies...  Well, that's what they are.  I know for somethings the Parent Category is bad.  But for others it makes sense; if somebody is just browsing, I doubt they'd go to each sub-category.  They'd just want to see who the enemies are, boss or no.  I do hope I'm making sense; this is REALLY hard for me to explain.  I have lost track of where it was taught to me, but...yeah.  I'm for the Characters and Enemies categories (though I guess you could already tell that, 'cause I'm the one who slipped them in there).  Woo.--[[User:Dreyfus2006|Dreyfus]] 04:16, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
*Well, they ''should'' go for the subcategories if they're browsing, since they're the first on the category pages, before the entries.  If they're looking for someone particular, they'll be easily categorized there, and if they're just browsing, the subcategory tree is actually designed for that in the Mediawiki software.  I'm not opposed to doing things differently for its own sake, but organizations with far more wiki experience than us do it this way across a large variety of wikis.
*Also, I was planning on making a Category:Disney Characters :(.  It doesn't seem like any "child" categories would be a bad idea unless they had too ''few'' members, not too many.
*And if these categories are included, they need to go in {{tname|InfoboxOrg13}}, not simply on this page, so they are included in all the Organization members' pages.  Still though, redundant categories in my opinion just lead to categories being less useful IMO (see my reply at [[KHW:DELETE#Category:Villains]], on a similar subject.)  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 04:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

== Xigbar vs Ven (Xion) ==
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZwk5zc71yg


one thing that bothered me about that: Xigbar got distracted upon seeing Xion as Ven, but his reaction to roxas' uncanny resemblance to Ven is not stated anywhere. (or maybe i just haven't encountered it -.-)--[[Special:Contributions/121.54.92.102|121.54.92.102]] 09:07, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Could someone tell me what he said at that moment, or in what day does it happen?

er, day 354, i think.

==Nickname==

{{NinjaSheik|text=Should I put something in Xigbar's page that his nickname is Xiggy? In Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days, Demy called him that. They seem to be best friends, too. Look http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6U34vz5cNo&feature=channel here if you don't believe me.}}

That was rather surprising.--[[User:Super Sword-chucks|<font color="A9ACB6">'''天下'''</font>]][[User Talk: Super Sword-chucks|<font color="#6F7285">'''無双'''</font>]][[User:Super Sword-chucks/Userpage+|<font color="black">'''！！'''</font>]] 19:37, September 26, 2009 (UTC)

{{NinjaSheik|text=Which part? When Demyx called Xigbar Xiggy, or that the game in out on YouTube in English, already. I found out this morning. It's great, isn't it?}}
{{Firaga44|text=wow... i can imagine larxene doing that but demyx not really.}}
{{Super Sword-chucks|time=19:45, September 26, 2009 (UTC)|text=Mainly just Demyx calling Xigbar Xiggy and referring to Castle Oblivion as "C.O.".}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Is that all? Xiggy have always been Xigbar's nickname. I just thought it was made up for the fans, but it turns out that it wasn't. I'm happy to know that Demyx's called him that.}}
{{Super Sword-chucks|time=01:23, September 27, 2009 (UTC)|text=<!-- "Is that all?" somewhat offends me; like it makes me feel slow and stupid...--> Sure, I thought Xiggy was Xigbar's nickname, but never thought it'd come up in a conversation.}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to offend you.}}

{{Pokhmon|time=19:52, January 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=i think its just demyx that calles xigbar ''xiggy'' }}

== Days Fight ==

I was just wondering if we should make a small mention on the Xigbar enemy page about the battle in Days at the Coliseum ? i realise its a trivial battle and not that important but i do feel it sould atleast have a little mention/strategy. What do you people think ? [[User:Ximodnic|Ximodnic]] 01:07, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

==  "Ill Will"? ==
Something in the Personality section's bugging me. The idea that there's ill will between Xigbar and Xemnas and Saix seems like a bit of a stretch, as it's been shown that the numerical ranks aren't related to authority, which begs the question of why mention of Xigbar's rank is even in the Personality section. I'm going to make changes accoringly.[[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 23:43, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

That's fine with me.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 23:47, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It's actually FINE. Read the reasoning in the history. Xigbar's comedic, carefree nature is something viewed as "un-Nobody", especially for a Senior Member, and it's annoying to Xemnas and Saix, who take their ADMINISTRATIVE jobs seriously, and don't bother with the easier field missions that Xigbar takes. Both of these are PERSONALITY referances. Simply make the writing clearer. Don't erase it. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 23:52, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

How about if just the "Some have wondered" sentence is removed? That's really what's bugging me the most. It's just too speculative. We have no way of knowing if that is the reason Xigbar isn't given a lot of authority. But you're right about the rest of the section and after looking it over, it does fit. [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 04:13, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

::Exactly. REMOVE all speculation. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 09:12, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

== First Appearance ==

Shouldn't Xigbar's first chronological appearance be in ''KHII Final Mix''? Since he mentions looking for new recruits, and all 13 members are present in ''KH Days'', then that surely comes before.


[[User:Samoth|Samoth]] 13:41, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
:That is not at all how that entry works.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 19:02, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

== accent ==


{{LapisScarab|time=20:03, January 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=I can only assume that it's to emphasize Xigbar's easygoing, lax personality. I actually hate that comparison, for both the reason you brought up snd the fact that just being a surfer would not automatically make your voice like that. Tried to remove it once but it got reverted.}}

{{Pokhmon|berserk=20:10, January 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=i got rid of it }}

== Resemblance ==

Ok, I was looking through my Kingdom Heaets 358/2 Days strategy guide when I noticed something. With the pointy ears, yellow eyes, doesn't Xigbar seem to resemble Master Xehanort?IS that worth noting? [[User:Vaddie|Vaddie]] 16:49, March 25, 2010 (UTC)
{{neumannz|time=16:51, March 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=Considering Braig had pointy ears and yellow eyes at the end of BBS, I'd say no.}}

      Yeah, but in titles after BBS he's aged and seems to look like Master Xehanort. Nomura even noted the resemblance in a recent interview.  http://forums.khinsider.com/spoilers/147009-bbs-ultimania-plot-mysteries-nomura-interview.html [[User:Vaddie|Vaddie]] 17:00, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

== ven or roxas ==

{{neumannz|time=17:29, March 28, 2010 (UTC)|text=Well, first off, why do you think it's Roxas over Ven?}}
{{LapisScarab|time=17:32, March 28, 2010 (UTC)|inverse=Please see [[User talk:Kingdom zachdawg|here]].}}
{{Xabryn|text=We're already discussing this on the IRC}}
{{LapisScarab|time=17:35, March 28, 2010 (UTC)|skinny=In that case, I'd advise you to take a look at my message on Kingdom zachdawg's talk page too.}}

== In the article ==

It says something about drowning a goldfish, what does that mean? Isn't that sorta impossible? ([[User:Bananaphone1996|Bananaphone1996]] 23:00, June 18, 2010 (UTC))
{{Rucario|time=05:47, July 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=Xigbar said something similar to 'Why do you always have to stare at me like I drowned your goldfish' to Ventus as Xion in Days. So yeah.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=06:07, July 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=Fish filter oxygen from the water, so you can technically drown/suffocate them by putting them in an oxygen-deprived watersource, like the Dead Sea.}}

== KH2 Ven/Roxas Reference ==

{{Veroso|text= There's a scene in KH2 where he's talking to Sora and says "That's right. He used to give me that same exact look." His the "he" Ven or Roxas?}}
{{Chitalian8|time=03:30, September 3, 2010 (UTC)|text= It's Ven.}}

Why not both?[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 16:17, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

{{ST|text=because he said "he", not "they"}}

Xigbar is a very deceitful individual. In his Secret Reports, he directly compares Roxas' face with Ven's and when he faces Xion asks why Ven 'always' looks at him like that, despite how he only actually met him once. It seems certain, to me at least, that "The look", is something that all four of them share when they encounter him. Some of the expressions on Roxas' face during some of the cutscenes in Days would lend credence to this, as well as the fact that I remember a statement on Nomura's part at the time of KH2's release that Xigbar meant Roxas.[[Special:Contributions/76.4.6.157|76.4.6.157]] 23:33, November 2, 2010 (UTC)

== 2012 Special Trailer ==

Why would we assume that is not Braig?[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 20:52, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
:Also, "and compares Sora's glare to Ventus's again." sounds pretty weak.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 22:12, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

== DDD? ==

The credits credit Braig, not Xigbar. What proof do we have that Xigbar appears in the game at all?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

I think there was scan at KHInsider that showed Xigbar next to Xehanort. I would link it to you, but I haven't been able to get in at the site for some reason.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 04:08, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
:I'm going to guess that it's Braig in that scan, not Xigbar. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 04:30, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
::No, it's defiantly Xigbar. I remember it. It was in a low quality scan, with Xigbar next to Xheanort. But I can't find it on KHInsider.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 19:53, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

[http://kh13.com/zenphoto/articles/famitsu-weekly/march-22-2012/www.dotup.org2777464.jpg.php] here you go from KH13 though--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 20:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Oh, thanks, Xabryn-san! I didn't think of looking at KH13, probably because I'm used to going to KHInsider.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 21:03, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
:That shows that Xigbar was in the scans. What proof do we have that he was ''in the game''?
::And by this, I mean "where do they call him Xigbar, not Braig?"[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 21:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
:::I know this isn't good enough, but his track in the OST is called Xigbar. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 22:22, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
@@ Line 38: / Line 38: @@
 Something in the Personality section's bugging me. The idea that there's ill will between Xigbar and Xemnas and Saix seems like a bit of a stretch, as it's been shown that the numerical ranks aren't related to authority, which begs the question of why mention of Xigbar's rank is even in the Personality section. I'm going to make changes accoringly.[[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 23:43, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
-That's fine with me.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:47, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
+That's fine with me.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 23:47, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
 It's actually FINE. Read the reasoning in the history. Xigbar's comedic, carefree nature is something viewed as "un-Nobody", especially for a Senior Member, and it's annoying to Xemnas and Saix, who take their ADMINISTRATIVE jobs seriously, and don't bother with the easier field missions that Xigbar takes. Both of these are PERSONALITY referances. Simply make the writing clearer. Don't erase it. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 23:52, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
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 The credits credit Braig, not Xigbar. What proof do we have that Xigbar appears in the game at all?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
-I think there was scan at KHInsider that showed Xigbar next to Xehanort. I would link it to you, but I haven't been able to get in at the site for some reason.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 04:08, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
+I think there was scan at KHInsider that showed Xigbar next to Xehanort. I would link it to you, but I haven't been able to get in at the site for some reason.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 04:08, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 :I'm going to guess that it's Braig in that scan, not Xigbar. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 04:30, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
-::No, it's defiantly Xigbar. I remember it. It was in a low quality scan, with Xigbar next to Xheanort. But I can't find it on KHInsider.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:53, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
+::No, it's defiantly Xigbar. I remember it. It was in a low quality scan, with Xigbar next to Xheanort. But I can't find it on KHInsider.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 19:53, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 [http://kh13.com/zenphoto/articles/famitsu-weekly/march-22-2012/www.dotup.org2777464.jpg.php] here you go from KH13 though--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 20:56, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
-Oh, thanks, Xabryn-san! I didn't think of looking at KH13, probably because I'm used to going to KHInsider.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:03, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
+Oh, thanks, Xabryn-san! I didn't think of looking at KH13, probably because I'm used to going to KHInsider.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 21:03, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 :That shows that Xigbar was in the scans. What proof do we have that he was ''in the game''?
 ::And by this, I mean "where do they call him Xigbar, not Braig?"[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 21:37, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 :::I know this isn't good enough, but his track in the OST is called Xigbar. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 22:22, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
-The idea that Xigbar appears in DDD is patently false. Its Braig, not Xigbar. They look identical, but it is absolutely Braig. The same thing happens with Isa.
-::Except that Young Xehanort straight up calls him Xigbar, and they explain that his heart was removed and replaced with a copy of Xehanort's. I don't see how any of the original Organization members can be anything but Nobody-Xehanort hybrids by now.
-::If you have Ultimania sources, we would ''love'' to hear them. But right now we have the game giving them specific names and explaining why they pretty much have to be Xigbar and Saix, not Braig and Isa.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.177|192.249.47.177]] 17:33, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
-== Not Xigbar ==
-The credits only list Braig. Xigbar isn't in 3D.
-:...what? Did you not read the section above? [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 00:44, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
-== [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freisch%C3%BCtz Freischütz] ==
-Perhaps it's a stretch, but can we draw any similarities for an orgin section? (or something else worth mentioning?) {{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 08:07, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
-:Xigbar's title is a direct reference to the legend, specifically in his ability to bend the trajectories of his bullets.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:26, 8 March 2016 (UTC)