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Um, where is it ever said he's impulsive? it was Beast who attacked Xaldin, look at the video. Besides, fighting Sora and co. is kind of part of what Org. XIII does, it's not really impulsive, it's part of their goal. '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 17:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC) | Um, where is it ever said he's impulsive? it was Beast who attacked Xaldin, look at the video. Besides, fighting Sora and co. is kind of part of what Org. XIII does, it's not really impulsive, it's part of their goal. '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 17:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
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:Well, Wikipedia, and several other sites describe him as such (though these sites are just copy-pastes, admittedly).[[User:DannyP|DannyP]] 17:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC) | :Well, Wikipedia, and several other sites describe him as such (though these sites are just copy-pastes, admittedly).[[User:DannyP|DannyP]] 17:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
::Honestly, the Wikipedia articles about Kingdom Hearts are very poorly written - they're basically owned by a couple of kids who edit war others into submissions and cram their own personal theories into the article. And mirrors are just mirrors... and honestly, I'm not too keen on seeing Ultimania as a good source of information, they're extremely subjective, calling the Xaldin battle the toughest in the game (surely we don't want that in the article?) I don't see any reason for Wikipedia to be saying that, it's not like it has a source there either, it's just an opinion. '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 22:35, 18 February 2007 (UTC) | ::Honestly, the Wikipedia articles about Kingdom Hearts are very poorly written - they're basically owned by a couple of kids who edit war others into submissions and cram their own personal theories into the article. And mirrors are just mirrors... and honestly, I'm not too keen on seeing Ultimania as a good source of information, they're extremely subjective, calling the Xaldin battle the toughest in the game (surely we don't want that in the article?) I don't see any reason for Wikipedia to be saying that, it's not like it has a source there either, it's just an opinion. '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 22:35, 18 February 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::Heh, if you had just called us "edit-warring kids", I'd have let it slide off my back, but saying that we "cram [our] personal theories into the article" shows that you're just making up bullshit to spite us. [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Marluxia&diff=5007&oldid=4751 How is your glass house, by the way?] On another note, Your confusion about "Ultimania" is hilarious. He's not talking about the website. He talking about the '' | :::Heh, if you had just called us "edit-warring kids", I'd have let it slide off my back, but saying that we "cram [our] personal theories into the article" shows that you're just making up bullshit to spite us. [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Marluxia&diff=5007&oldid=4751 How is your glass house, by the way?] On another note, Your confusion about "Ultimania" is hilarious. He's not talking about the website. He talking about the ''[[Wikipedia:Ultimania|Kingdom Hearts II Ultimania]]'', which is an ''official'' guide straight from Square Enix. All information given for the fiction in this book is canon. It's where the assigned <s>elements</s>attributes, Nobodies, and weapon names come from. It contains profiles for the Organization XIII members, which is probably where the "impulsive" part comes from. [[User:129.89.191.231|129.89.191.231]] 22:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
::::That bit in the Marluxia article isn't even my opinion though, it's just a common opinion of others, which is exactly what I wrote. Phrasing it as fact, like the revert warriors at Wikipedia do with their judgments of the Organization members, is a whole different story. '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 22:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | ::::That bit in the Marluxia article isn't even my opinion though, it's just a common opinion of others, which is exactly what I wrote. Phrasing it as fact, like the revert warriors at Wikipedia do with their judgments of the Organization members, is a whole different story. '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 22:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::::And those "judgments" are...? We don't even consider "Superior" to be a "title" because there's nothing to back up that assertion, and even make it a point to refer to Larxene's weapons as knives, since that's what the Ultimania refers to them as. Both cases where this site uses personal interpretation on. Furthermore, you're connecting two unrelated things. If there are judgments in the article, that has nothing to do with the massive number of reverts, which are related to poor edits. I dunno about you, but "Demyx is hott" or "Xemnas=Mansex lol" isn't very good for an article. Most of the people who revert such edits, including me, didn't write all of the article, so your assumption that we revert to preserve our "judgments" is very poorly-founded. Please, if you're going to bad-mouth us, at least base it on the actual situation. [[User:129.89.191.231|129.89.191.231]] 01:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | :::::And those "judgments" are...? We don't even consider "Superior" to be a "title" because there's nothing to back up that assertion, and even make it a point to refer to Larxene's weapons as knives, since that's what the Ultimania refers to them as. Both cases where this site uses personal interpretation on. Furthermore, you're connecting two unrelated things. If there are judgments in the article, that has nothing to do with the massive number of reverts, which are related to poor edits. I dunno about you, but "Demyx is hott" or "Xemnas=Mansex lol" isn't very good for an article. Most of the people who revert such edits, including me, didn't write all of the article, so your assumption that we revert to preserve our "judgments" is very poorly-founded. Please, if you're going to bad-mouth us, at least base it on the actual situation. [[User:129.89.191.231|129.89.191.231]] 01:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
::::::Look, missing my point on purpose would be a great argument tactic if this were some flamewar whose outcome mattered, but it's not. I'm not interested in arguing over the merits of the WP article, or I'd be doing it there. My comment was in reference to this article, and this conversation has lost relevance to that. I'm not really interested in fighting with an internet stranger, so consider this a win for you. If you have something to add about this article, by all means go ahead, but if all you're interested is an argument with me, please at least go to [[User talk:Scottch|my talk page]] to avoid clogging up this page (though I can't guarantee I'll care any more there). '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 03:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | ::::::Look, missing my point on purpose would be a great argument tactic if this were some flamewar whose outcome mattered, but it's not. I'm not interested in arguing over the merits of the WP article, or I'd be doing it there. My comment was in reference to this article, and this conversation has lost relevance to that. I'm not really interested in fighting with an internet stranger, so consider this a win for you. If you have something to add about this article, by all means go ahead, but if all you're interested is an argument with me, please at least go to [[User talk:Scottch|my talk page]] to avoid clogging up this page (though I can't guarantee I'll care any more there). '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 03:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::::::{{Flashpenny | That is kinda true since last time I checked Xaldin is kinda impulsive because he tried to off Sora and co. A non-impulsive person would realize that this would be a lose-lose scenario for Xaldin because the Organization needed Sora for their operation and he would've been killed for treason. All of the other members had reasons: the Organization knew Demyx wouldn't have won against Sora and sent him marching to his death because he was a waste of time, space and air; Xigbar and Luxord were aware that there were already 3 Keyblade masters in the World That Never Was and thus knew it wouldn't mattered if they killed one or two; when Saix and Xemnas decided to take matters into their own hands Kingdom Hearts was ready for them to take over and they didn't need Sora anymore; Xaldin has no reason whatsoever.}} | :::::::{{Flashpenny | That is kinda true since last time I checked Xaldin is kinda impulsive because he tried to off Sora and co. A non-impulsive person would realize that this would be a lose-lose scenario for Xaldin because the Organization needed Sora for their operation and he would've been killed for treason. All of the other members had reasons: the Organization knew Demyx wouldn't have won against Sora and sent him marching to his death because he was a waste of time, space and air; Xigbar and Luxord were aware that there were already 3 Keyblade masters in the World That Never Was and thus knew it wouldn't mattered if they killed one or two; when Saix and Xemnas decided to take matters into their own hands Kingdom Hearts was ready for them to take over and they didn't need Sora anymore; Xaldin has no reason whatsoever.}} | ||
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::I'll check the subtitles when I fight him. - [[User:Redmess|Redmess]] 21:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC) | ::I'll check the subtitles when I fight him. - [[User:Redmess|Redmess]] 21:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC) | ||
==This just in== | ==This just in== | ||
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Maybe that should be my thing, to let you know when new pics of Organization XIII members are up on the japanese site. Ones of better quality. | Maybe that should be my thing, to let you know when new pics of Organization XIII members are up on the japanese site. Ones of better quality. | ||
