Editing Talk:Xaldin

Um, where is it ever said he's impulsive?  it was Beast who attacked Xaldin, look at the video.  Besides, fighting Sora and co. is kind of part of what Org. XIII does, it's not really impulsive, it's part of their goal.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 17:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

He's been described as such in many descriptions (as such, it's probably official. Might be the Ultimania). Besides, though Beast attacked, Xaldin chose to stay and fight, rather than retreat. He was going against large odds, and one of his opponents was integral to the Organization's plans (the other Organization members only fought Sora when they were no longer of any use to him, and Demyx was assigned specifically to combat Sora, while Xaldin was not) It would've been in his best interest to retreat, but he didn't. [[User:DannyP|DannyP]] 08:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC)DannyP
:Seems very speculative to me.  I've never heard this about him, and it doesn't say so at Ultimania (although they aren't necessarily a reliable source of info, there are enough spelling errors on that sight to make a grown man cry).  Do you have any links or anything for this?  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 08:55, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:Well, Wikipedia, and several other sites describe him as such (though these sites are just copy-pastes, admittedly).[[User:DannyP|DannyP]] 17:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
::Honestly, the Wikipedia articles about Kingdom Hearts are very poorly written - they're basically owned by a couple of kids who edit war others into submissions and cram their own personal theories into the article.  And mirrors are just mirrors... and honestly, I'm not too keen on seeing Ultimania as a good source of information, they're extremely subjective, calling the Xaldin battle the toughest in the game (surely we don't want that in the article?)  I don't see any reason for Wikipedia to be saying that, it's not like it has a source there either, it's just an opinion.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 22:35, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
:::Heh, if you had just called us "edit-warring kids", I'd have let it slide off my back, but saying that we "cram [our] personal theories into the article" shows that you're just making up bullshit to spite us. [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Marluxia&diff=5007&oldid=4751 How is your glass house, by the way?] On another note, Your confusion about "Ultimania" is hilarious. He's not talking about the website. He talking about the ''[[Wikipedia:Ultimania|Kingdom Hearts II Ultimania]]'', which is an ''official'' guide straight from Square Enix. All information given for the fiction in this book is canon. It's where the assigned <s>elements</s>attributes, Nobodies, and weapon names come from. It contains profiles for the Organization XIII members, which is probably where the "impulsive" part comes from. [[User:129.89.191.231|129.89.191.231]] 22:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
::::That bit in the Marluxia article isn't even my opinion though, it's just a common opinion of others, which is exactly what I wrote.  Phrasing it as fact, like the revert warriors at Wikipedia do with their judgments of the Organization members, is a whole different story.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 22:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::And those "judgments" are...? We don't even consider "Superior" to be a "title" because there's nothing to back up that assertion, and even make it a point to refer to Larxene's weapons as knives, since that's what the Ultimania refers to them as. Both cases where this site uses personal interpretation on. Furthermore, you're connecting two unrelated things. If there are judgments in the article, that has nothing to do with the massive number of reverts, which are related to poor edits. I dunno about you, but "Demyx is hott" or "Xemnas=Mansex lol" isn't very good for an article. Most of the people who revert such edits, including me, didn't write all of the article, so your assumption that we revert to preserve our "judgments" is very poorly-founded. Please, if you're going to bad-mouth us, at least base it on the actual situation. [[User:129.89.191.231|129.89.191.231]] 01:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::Look, missing my point on purpose would be a great argument tactic if this were some flamewar whose outcome mattered, but it's not.  I'm not interested in arguing over the merits of the WP article, or I'd be doing it there.  My comment was in reference to this article, and this conversation has lost relevance to that.  I'm not really interested in fighting with an internet stranger, so consider this a win for you.  If you have something to add about this article, by all means go ahead, but if all you're interested is an argument with me, please at least go to [[User talk:Scottch|my talk page]] to avoid clogging up this page (though I can't guarantee I'll care any more there).  '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 03:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

==Wheres/Theres No Fun in This==
I do apologise for such a trivial question, but its really startung to bug me, does he say before the fight "Wheres the fun in this ?" or "Theres no fun in this " Im aware his page says "Where" but im not 100% sure, any thoughts
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 Um, where is it ever said he's impulsive?  it was Beast who attacked Xaldin, look at the video.  Besides, fighting Sora and co. is kind of part of what Org. XIII does, it's not really impulsive, it's part of their goal.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 17:27, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
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 :Well, Wikipedia, and several other sites describe him as such (though these sites are just copy-pastes, admittedly).[[User:DannyP|DannyP]] 17:21, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
 ::Honestly, the Wikipedia articles about Kingdom Hearts are very poorly written - they're basically owned by a couple of kids who edit war others into submissions and cram their own personal theories into the article.  And mirrors are just mirrors... and honestly, I'm not too keen on seeing Ultimania as a good source of information, they're extremely subjective, calling the Xaldin battle the toughest in the game (surely we don't want that in the article?)  I don't see any reason for Wikipedia to be saying that, it's not like it has a source there either, it's just an opinion.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott]]</font>[[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch]]'''''</font> 22:35, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
-:::Heh, if you had just called us "edit-warring kids", I'd have let it slide off my back, but saying that we "cram [our] personal theories into the article" shows that you're just making up bullshit to spite us. [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Marluxia&diff=5007&oldid=4751 How is your glass house, by the way?] On another note, Your confusion about "Ultimania" is hilarious. He's not talking about the website. He talking about the ''{{w|Ultimania|Kingdom Hearts II Ultimania}}'', which is an ''official'' guide straight from Square Enix. All information given for the fiction in this book is canon. It's where the assigned <s>elements</s>attributes, Nobodies, and weapon names come from. It contains profiles for the Organization XIII members, which is probably where the "impulsive" part comes from. [[User:129.89.191.231|129.89.191.231]] 22:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
+:::Heh, if you had just called us "edit-warring kids", I'd have let it slide off my back, but saying that we "cram [our] personal theories into the article" shows that you're just making up bullshit to spite us. [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/index.php?title=Marluxia&diff=5007&oldid=4751 How is your glass house, by the way?] On another note, Your confusion about "Ultimania" is hilarious. He's not talking about the website. He talking about the ''[[Wikipedia:Ultimania|Kingdom Hearts II Ultimania]]'', which is an ''official'' guide straight from Square Enix. All information given for the fiction in this book is canon. It's where the assigned <s>elements</s>attributes, Nobodies, and weapon names come from. It contains profiles for the Organization XIII members, which is probably where the "impulsive" part comes from. [[User:129.89.191.231|129.89.191.231]] 22:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 ::::That bit in the Marluxia article isn't even my opinion though, it's just a common opinion of others, which is exactly what I wrote.  Phrasing it as fact, like the revert warriors at Wikipedia do with their judgments of the Organization members, is a whole different story.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 22:59, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
 :::::And those "judgments" are...? We don't even consider "Superior" to be a "title" because there's nothing to back up that assertion, and even make it a point to refer to Larxene's weapons as knives, since that's what the Ultimania refers to them as. Both cases where this site uses personal interpretation on. Furthermore, you're connecting two unrelated things. If there are judgments in the article, that has nothing to do with the massive number of reverts, which are related to poor edits. I dunno about you, but "Demyx is hott" or "Xemnas=Mansex lol" isn't very good for an article. Most of the people who revert such edits, including me, didn't write all of the article, so your assumption that we revert to preserve our "judgments" is very poorly-founded. Please, if you're going to bad-mouth us, at least base it on the actual situation. [[User:129.89.191.231|129.89.191.231]] 01:12, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 ::::::Look, missing my point on purpose would be a great argument tactic if this were some flamewar whose outcome mattered, but it's not.  I'm not interested in arguing over the merits of the WP article, or I'd be doing it there.  My comment was in reference to this article, and this conversation has lost relevance to that.  I'm not really interested in fighting with an internet stranger, so consider this a win for you.  If you have something to add about this article, by all means go ahead, but if all you're interested is an argument with me, please at least go to [[User talk:Scottch|my talk page]] to avoid clogging up this page (though I can't guarantee I'll care any more there).  '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 03:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
-:::::::{{Flashpenny | That is kinda true since last time I checked Xaldin is kinda impulsive because he tried to off Sora and co. A non-impulsive person would realize that this would be a lose-lose scenario for Xaldin because the Organization needed Sora for their operation and he would've been killed for treason. All of the other members had reasons: the Organization knew Demyx wouldn't have won against Sora and sent him marching to his death because he was a waste of time, space and air; Xigbar and Luxord were aware that there were already 3 Keyblade masters in the World That Never Was and thus knew it wouldn't mattered if they killed one or two; when Saix and Xemnas decided to take matters into their own hands Kingdom Hearts was ready for them to take over and they didn't need Sora anymore; Xaldin has no reason whatsoever.}}
-{{Firaga44|text=true kingdom hearts wasn't ready then and orgazation thriteen would of killed xaldin because of the rule in orgazation thriteen all traitors are elimnated so basicaly a loss for the orgazation and xaldin}}
 ==Wheres/Theres No Fun in This==
 I do apologise for such a trivial question, but its really startung to bug me, does he say before the fight "Wheres the fun in this ?" or "Theres no fun in this " Im aware his page says "Where" but im not 100% sure, any thoughts
-:I believe it is "Where", last time I checked. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 01:01, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
-::I'll check the subtitles when I fight him. - [[User:Redmess|Redmess]] 21:56, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
-::It wasn't subtitled, and it could really be both. You could check the official script, if you can find it. - [[User:Redmess|Redmess]] 15:07, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
-==This just in==
-Hey everybody. Sorry to bother you but new Xaldin and Luxord pics. Check it out.
-http://www.square-enix.co.jp/kingdom/days/
-Xaldin and Luxord are there now.
-Maybe you didn't hear me. Xaldin and Luxord are up on the japanese site. Xaldin has all six lances and Luxord is there too. Both pics are in better quality. And in case you didn't get it the first time, There's a new Axel pic where he's holding his chakrams. Check out the site and see for yourselves.
-Maybe that should be my thing, to let you know when new pics of Organization XIII members are up on the japanese site. Ones of better quality.
-== Lances? ==
-Hey everyone. I know his weapons are "Lances", but has anyone actually THOUGHT about it? they look alot nore like '''''spears''''' to me. [[User:Number XXI|Number XXI]] 22:49, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
-:They're pretty much the same thing, a lance is a name for a variety of different pole weapons based off of a spear.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 22:55, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
-Well, I see where your coming from, they do look a lot like spears, and they are very similar, but I think that they called them lances as lance sounds better, they are both pole arm weapons.
-==Novels==
-Hey, I finally remember where I can read all the novels! I heard Xaldin's page needs citations, so [http://gold-panner.livejournal.com/ ta-da~! I found them again]. I can't navigate around HeartStation as well as I used to, because the format and my computer doesn't let me enter, so I remember the site owner has a LJ. We start putting links up the other Organization members' pages. I'll help, but thing is (and I'm extremely embarrassed to admit this) I don't really remember to put refs, since A.) It's been a while since I done them anywhere and B.) I never actually done them a lot. Like, maybe four times at best.
-In any case, I can start with Xaldin since [http://gold-panner.livejournal.com/3744.html I found the chapter where his scene with Demyx took place]. So, I don't exactly know how to put refs, and I liked to be precise, so help, please. :)--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:47, 11 June 2012 (UTC)