Editing Talk:Wayward Wind

==Moving==
{{Xiggie|text=This article should be moved to [[Ven's Keyblade]], since the name is just a speculation!

EDIT : Done!}}

==Why does "no Keychain" make this fake?==
We've heard nothing that suggests that ANY of the Keyblades from BBS are fake.  I can't even begin to imagine the creation of a Kingdom Hearts game with only "fake" Keyblades?  The Keyblades that Roxas wields in Days do not have key chains, but instead have gears that change their form.  That doesn't make them any less important or powerful?  Does that make them fake as well?  Perhaps key chains only change the form of Sora's Kingdom Key, while other Keyblades are affected by other means?[[User:Oblivionkeeper|Oblivionkeeper]] 08:33, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=Keychains also change the forms of Riku's Keyblade (and possibly Kairi's). Maybe it isn't fake, maybe it's how it all began.}}

{{NinjaSheik|text=Perhaps so. I agree.}}

I agreet too. I was thinkin that they didnt have chains because they were the originals. then idk....by accident a chain fell outta someones pocket, hith ther keyblade n changed it lol.

My idea is that in bbs, master xehanort (is that spelled right?) is somehow behind the creation of keychains, which would explain why he and his apprentice have them. [[Special:Contributions/165.138.0.20|165.138.0.20]] 15:31, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
:http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/kingdomhearts/images/b/b2/Bbs_char_TAV.jpg This poster shows all three of their (Ven, Aqua and Terra) keyblades with keychains. So, they ain't fake. Maybe they lose their keychains later on or something.[[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 17:08, November 21, 2009 (UTC) PS: OK... how do I make the pic smaller?
{{Maggosh|text=Add "vertical line" and 200px before the last two brackets. You get:
[[Image:Bbs char TAV.jpg|200px]]
And yeah, the keychains aren't news now.}}
:Thanks. Must remember that. And I haven't been checking regularly, so I wouldn't know what is news and what isn't. I have some catching up to do *scurries off* [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 17:40, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

== the name ==

i belive the name is called divine duo since it has the appearence of two across and kingdom key

{{Xiggie|text=Joekeybladeaura, remember to sign your posts!

That might be, but the article name or any part of the article itself shall '''not''' say any names until it has been confirmed.}}

this is not fake nerds

==Picture==
{{Template:ST|time=17:43, October 14, 2009 (UTC)|text=What happened to the picture of Ven's Keyblade? ive been looking all over the wiki for it but cant find it. Wut was wrong with anyway?}}
:It was fanart.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 19:15, October 20, 2009 (UTC)
{{Template:ST|time=00:37, October 27, 2009 (UTC)|text=Good fanart. What I dont get, though, is why we have official images of Aqua's and Terra's Keyblades and not Ven's.}}
{{Maggosh|text=I don't get that either. It's almost like it's been...erased! [/lame]
In all seriousness, yes, let's get a decent picture for this article.}}
When are you gonna make a new pic? Cococrash11
{{KrytenKoro|It was blatant fanart. These pics should not be "made", they should be cropped from official material, taken from promotional materials, or ripped from the game itself.}}
{{Maggosh|text=Kryten, considering the new promotional "splash-page" in the newest scans, with clear images of the new Keyblades, mind you, do you think they should be cropped and added to their pages?
...Is it a go or no go?}}
:If you know how, then go ahead, but it will inevitably be replaced.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 20:18, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
{{Maggosh|text=Alright, then. I'll get to it.}}

==Re: Picture==
I'm just going to make it clear here that I'm going to start giving out vandalism notices to editors who reupload the fanart image of Ven's Keyblade. I've had to delete it too many times already.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 13:09, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

We still need a picture. [[User:D.Dark.|D.Dark.]] 16:07, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
:Does '''anyone''' have any idea on where to rip or Photoshop one from ? I'm talking about a scan or a screenshot. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#FF1493">je t'♥</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF">mélancolie !</font>]]'''</sub> 16:11, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
{{Maggosh|text=I've edited out the three Keyblades from the splash panel.
[[File:Rain Fall KHBBS.png]]
<br>[[File:Fresh Breeze KHBBS.png|100px]]
<br>[[File:Earth Shaker KHBBS.png|250px]]
Surely they should suffice until we get better images.}}
They look good except for Terra's. Its just...too short cause of its angle. [[User:D.Dark.|D.Dark.]] 11:06, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
{{Maggosh|text=New ones for Terra and Ven. I'm debating whether or not to re-upload Aqua's since the new scans don't show the keychain. How about it?}}

== Neverland ==

The Keyblade he left on Neveland is actually a wooden keyblade they use to train. Terra is seen with this keyblade earlier. Can a change that.[[Reedemer & Destroyer]] 19:23, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

The New Year came and I had no response. Silence is consent.[[Reedemer & Destroyer]] 19:14, january 03, 2010 (UTC)

== Just curious..... ==

{{Randomnessity|time=03:51, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=Where'd the name come from?}}

== Name and Stats ==

{{Xiggie|time=16:34, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|talk=I've just taken this screenshot from a walkthough of the game:

http://i710.photobucket.com/albums/ww103/Xiggie2/Venskeyblade-1.png

As you can see, The keyblade increases strength by 3, and magic by 1. But since I'm don't know much japanese... I can't really say what the name is, but the kana is something like this: フレツシュブリーズ ''(furetsushuburīzu)''

Can anyone try to... figure out the real name?}}
{{TNE|time=16:46, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Fresh Breeze !}}
{{Xiggie|time=17:07, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|talk=So, ''furetsushu'' = fresh and ''burīzu'' = breeze ! wee, that makes sense :P

Should we move the page?}}
{{TNE|time=17:20, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=YES WE SHOULD ! :D}}
{{EO|time=17:22, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=I would go against the move, as according to DTN, as usual, we don't wish to deal with translation issues, spoilers, and the lot. Also keep in mind that Terra and Aqua get their Keyblades from KH2FM over the course of the story as a sort of "Ultima Weapon", so I'd say this is also Ven's case...}}
{{Randomnessity|text=That would seem to be true, and the article was named Fresh Breeze for a short time, but it was reverted back to Ventus's Keyblade.}}
{{TNE|time=17:30, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=Thing is, we've already kept the renaming issue for Days, when the weapons were automatically given their names. We're ultimately going to change Kairi's Keyblade to Destiny Place, so we might as well get along with the move !

And we've already begun implementing spoilers on KHW...}}
{{EO|time=17:33, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=All those statements may be true, but I'm saying this may not be the best thing to do. KrytenKoro and DTN are fighting a losing battle, anyways. Kryten may as well unlock the BBS-related articles, all ready. I'm not going to say much more beyond that, as this is better suited for the Spoiler Policy Forum.}}

== Ven did not gain his keyblade on Destiny Islands ==

The last bullet in the trivia section is blatantly false. Ventus was using Fresh Breeze to combat the Neo Shadows which is well before the opening scene where MX takes him him DI in a comatose state. Please see the well-established translations of the Xenahort Reports on KHInsider by user Lissar for confirmation. [[User:AsanoHa|AsanoHa]] 03:06, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

== Upgrade? ==

Is it just me or do Terra and Aqua get the most extras? In fact, they get upgraded Keyblades (Gaia Bane and Rain Storm) at Destiniy Island. Do you think in the english version of BBS Ventus will get a new Keyblade upgrade like Terra and Aqua?--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 21:31, July 17, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman


== Name change to Wayward Wind? ==

Square Enix are selling the keychain of this keyblade at this years Comic Con

http://www.kh2.co.uk/image.php?view=cc2010/05.png  --[[User:WheelyRampage|WheelyRampage]] 16:47, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

{{Maggosh|trg=Uh...how about waiting until the game actually comes out in English? Didn't you test this idea out before you released it?}}

Sorry...I just thought because that's the official name Square Enix are selling them under, that that was the English name...:S I'll shut up now. --[[User:WheelyRampage|WheelyRampage]] 00:29, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
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 My idea is that in bbs, master xehanort (is that spelled right?) is somehow behind the creation of keychains, which would explain why he and his apprentice have them. [[Special:Contributions/165.138.0.20|165.138.0.20]] 15:31, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
-:http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/kingdomhearts/images/b/b2/Promotional Artwork 2 KHBBS.png This poster shows all three of their (Ven, Aqua and Terra) keyblades with keychains. So, they ain't fake. Maybe they lose their keychains later on or something.[[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 17:08, November 21, 2009 (UTC) PS: OK... how do I make the pic smaller?
+:http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/kingdomhearts/images/b/b2/Bbs_char_TAV.jpg This poster shows all three of their (Ven, Aqua and Terra) keyblades with keychains. So, they ain't fake. Maybe they lose their keychains later on or something.[[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 17:08, November 21, 2009 (UTC) PS: OK... how do I make the pic smaller?
 {{Maggosh|text=Add "vertical line" and 200px before the last two brackets. You get:
-[[File:Promotional Art 02 KHBBS.png|200px]]
+[[Image:Bbs char TAV.jpg|200px]]
 And yeah, the keychains aren't news now.}}
 :Thanks. Must remember that. And I haven't been checking regularly, so I wouldn't know what is news and what isn't. I have some catching up to do *scurries off* [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 17:40, November 21, 2009 (UTC)
-Just because they have no key chains doesn't make them fake in any account[[User:Oh,how the sea calls|Oh,how the sea calls]] 09:01, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
-Exuse me but you know this argument is months old right? the thing was already ended so dont waste your time on old things okay?--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 18:08, August 29, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman
-Well, it needed to be said. didn't expect a reply.[[User:Oh,how the sea calls|Oh,how the sea calls]] 18:29, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 == the name ==
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 this is not fake nerds
-how rude whoever posted the last message in this section... I work with some of the coolest nerds on earth on this wiki![[User:Oh,how the sea calls|Oh,how the sea calls]] 02:49, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
-Oh, and just because you think it is under any speculation doesn't make it true- and we need facts. So no reason to get angry at your own mistake. It's ok. If you read the rules you'll '''Learn'''. why do I answer to old talk posts? haha![[User:Oh,how the sea calls|Oh,how the sea calls]] 02:52, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
-{{LA|Vtext=That's a troll. Ignore him.}}
 ==Picture==
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 :Does '''anyone''' have any idea on where to rip or Photoshop one from ? I'm talking about a scan or a screenshot. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#FF1493">je t'♥</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF">mélancolie !</font>]]'''</sub> 16:11, November 18, 2009 (UTC)
 {{Maggosh|text=I've edited out the three Keyblades from the splash panel.
-[[File:Rainfell KHBBS.png]]
+[[File:Rain Fall KHBBS.png]]
-<br>[[File:Wayward Wind KHBBS.png|100px]]
+<br>[[File:Fresh Breeze KHBBS.png|100px]]
-<br>[[File:Earthshaker KHBBS.png|250px]]
+<br>[[File:Earth Shaker KHBBS.png|250px]]
 Surely they should suffice until we get better images.}}
 They look good except for Terra's. Its just...too short cause of its angle. [[User:D.Dark.|D.Dark.]] 11:06, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
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 Is it just me or do Terra and Aqua get the most extras? In fact, they get upgraded Keyblades (Gaia Bane and Rain Storm) at Destiniy Island. Do you think in the english version of BBS Ventus will get a new Keyblade upgrade like Terra and Aqua?--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 21:31, July 17, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman
-As his upgrade he gets Lost Memory. If you haven't already played the game or read to far into, i don't recommend reading the page on it yet. Heavy Spoilage[[User:Oh,how the sea calls|Oh,how the sea calls]] 21:48, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
-. i asked the question MONTHS ago 2. i meant one that looked like the original and i did not know the weapon that looked nothing like it was an upgrade, thank you.--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 00:05, August 15, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman
-Well I'm sorry it takes so long to get an answer from anybody, I know the feeling. I'm  going to propose a couple of users to have their main job go through talk pages and answer questions for people.[[User:Oh,how the sea calls|Oh,how the sea calls]] 19:27, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 == Name change to Wayward Wind? ==
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 Sorry...I just thought because that's the official name Square Enix are selling them under, that that was the English name...:S I'll shut up now. --[[User:WheelyRampage|WheelyRampage]] 00:29, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
-:It's okay, we make mistakes like that often. But thanks for sharing the news with us ^^ '''<font face="Trebuchet MS"><span style="background:#3300CC">[[User:Bluerfn|<span style="color:white"><sup>BLUER</sup></span>]]</span>[[User talk:Bluerfn|<span style="color:#CC0011">一番</span>]]</font>''' 00:40, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
-{{NeutraVega|So it's a "mistake" to be reporting on an official SE name change?  You truly are mentally retarded...}}
-{{LapisScarab|time=03:31, July 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=A retarded joke, lovely. How delightfully mature. This isn't an official name change. They're selling bloody keychains. Why would the name of merchandise have anything to do with the Keyblade's name in the game?}}
-:Now, now, let's not be hasty. Something like "...The keyblade's English name was revealed at somewhere somewhere..." inside the paragraph would suffice for the time being ^^. '''<font face="Trebuchet MS"><span style="background:#3300CC">[[User:Bluerfn|<span style="color:white"><sup>BLUER</sup></span>]]</span>[[User talk:Bluerfn|<span style="color:#CC0011">一番</span>]]</font>''' 03:41, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
-{{LapisScarab|time=03:43, July 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=I don't mind a mention of it somewhere, sort of like the [[Kingdom Key D]] being called "Light Seeker", but it isn't worth moving the page.}}
-{{NeutraVega|Lawlz.}}
-{{Chihuahuaman|time=17:03, August 1, 2010 (UTC)|van=i know this is an old argument but i will talk anyway. it IS worth moving the page, we are the ENGLISH WIKI i know its just merchandise but its as close as an english name untill the english release, and it is NOT an unofficial translation done by some user (no offence Troys) so is that alright or do all the mods STILL not want to move any of the pages? because im a contributing user and i just want best for the wiki and for every and all of the users to get as accurate information as they can get.}}
-:The thing is, SE merch doesn't always have the correctly dubbed names. For example "Kingdom Key Darkside", instead of "Kingdom Key D". While it's possible that these are the dubbed names, it's safest to wait until September.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 19:23, August 1, 2010 (UTC)
-{{Chihuahuaman|time=21:30, August 1, 2010 (UTC)|van=Fine, i will wait.}}
-I found a pic from teh guidebook that shows that his keyblade is called wayward wind. whether or not this is official, I'm not sure. [http://i1224.photobucket.com/albums/ee366/ZGCyberman65/IMG_20100901_202257.jpg] {{KKDSig|1}}
-Which guidebook is it from? BradyGames has a history of making mistakes.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}03:03, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
-well.. seven more days and we shall have true fact....[[User:Oh,how the sea calls|Oh,how the sea calls]] 03:05, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
-{{Maggosh|nathan=Make that five days. I'll be sure to make sure it is.}}
-== KH2 ==
-The keyblade navbox lists this as introduced in KH2 (probably due to the secret video), but our game icons do not. Which are we going to go with?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 22:43, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
-:It depends on whether we think its minor/brief appearance in the secret video counts. Keep in mind that we do not count Terra, Aqua, Ventus, or the [[Rainfell|other]] secret ending Keyblades. {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 01:29, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
-::Honestly, I'd be happier with it going the other way -- listed with the KH2 gameicon because of its cameo, but in the nav as being "truly" introduced in BbS. However...that would mean we have Stormfall and Ends of the Earth listed still with KH2, which is no longer even...{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 04:15, 8 June 2015 (UTC)