Editing Talk:Twilight Thorn

{{Summon:WALL•E|text=This seems like a pretty comprehensive page to me. Does it still need to be a stub?}}

:Nope, looks good to me.  Thanks for catching this. ^_^ [[User:BebopKate|BebopKate]] 05:23, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

{{Mar|text=I remember on some other site that the Twilight Thorn has a name: Flailer. Should we add that in?}}

{{TNE|text=Where'd you get the information from, first of all ?}}

{{Mar|text=Some other wiki that was deleted. I'm not even sure if it's true, but you've got to admit, it sounds cool. Maybe we should put it in the trivia section.}}

{{TNE|text=Not official ? Particularly not released from any source ? Don't put it in. Only put it in when you have a source, or when the information is blatantly obvious (like, Sora having a change of hair colour between the first two games).}}

{{Mar|text=Like I said, I don't even know if it's real. If I find it anywhere else, I'll let you know.}}

{{TNE|remerciement=Sure.}}

{{Mar|text=I actually found another site. It's a cheat code site called cheat code central .com. Maybe we can say something like; "There is speculation that the Twilight Thorn has a name which is Flailer", or something like that. I'll keep lookingfor it in other sites.}}

{{TNE|text=Tell me if you manage to find more. ^_^}}

{{Guardian Soul|text=Twilight Thorn's name IS Twilight Thorn.  I don't know where Flailer would come from.  Probably just a fan thing that has to do with the way that Twilight Thorn moves.}}

{{Mar|text=I found it on cheatzone.com, cheatmasterz.com, and some kingdom hearts info page.}}

{{TNE|blahtext=And where did '''''they''''' find it ?}}

{{Guardian Soul|text=Those aren't official sources.}}

{{Mar|text=Can't we at least put it in the trivia section saying that it is POSSIBLE that that's it's name?.}}

{{Guardian Soul|text=There isn't any reason to, the only sources you have are from non-official places.  Trivia is about facts, not speculation.}}

{{TNE|blahtext=Let's just put it this way : if we were to allow speculation to flood the pages, it'd be too much for a page to handle. The trivia sections would explode, if not the whole page, and we've already set a limit of seven (which, should be many).}}

Actually that name was was once mentioned on the website khinsider, and was used to refer to the nobody dusk, not twilight thorn. I think it was just a fan name made to be able to easily refer to that specific nobody instead of just calling it "that tight suit white skinny thing that moves in the air like a fish".

{{Mar|text=Well, people will know anyway, because we put it on this talk page.}}

{{TNE|text=And let's just confine it here for now, until something official comes out about it. If ever, ''lah''.}}

{{Xaity|angry=Why does everytime I write a good theory someone comes and deletes it?!
What is sobothering you in that I wrote that the Twilight Thorn is '''MAYBE''' another form of [[Xemnas]]?!

Please don't delete my changes!}}
{{MM841|20:37, 22 July 2009 (UTC)|Firstly, you did not back up your theory. Secondly it made no sense}}

{{Xaity|angry=What makes no sence?
I ment that probably the clocked man you see for a secend before the battle is [[Xemnas]] and then he transforms to the Twilight Thorn!

By the way what do you mean by "back up my theory"?}}
{{MM841|15:33, 23 July 2009 (UTC)|I mean you back up your theory with evidence when you write it.}}
{{KrytenKoro|The cloaked man is Roxas as an Organization member, as is painfully obvious. He has the same height, and the scene mirrors Sora's meeting with his shadow and the Darkside in KH1.}}

{{LevL|text=Is it true that Twilight Thorn is a low-ranking Nobody?}}
:Honestly, we don't have any proof that it even ''exists''. I mean, Darksides have shown up outside of Dive into the Heart, but we can't say the same about the Twilight Thorn.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 18:41, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

I don't think it is a low-ranking Nobody. Obviously not as high as Organization XIII, but not below dusks and samurai. It's probably just in the middle. Of course I don't have proof for that, I'm just assuming.--[[User:Xsonicdragon|Xsonicdragon]] 22:39, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
:All of the high-ranking Nobodies say "this is a high-ranking Nobody" in their journal entry, and are associated with an Organization member. That's why they're high-ranking (it's not about power, it's about military hierarchy). Twilight Thorn does not list that it is high-ranking, just like the Creeper and Dusk don't, which doesn't mean it's not powerful - just that it's subservient to all members instead of just one.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 07:07, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

{{KrytenKoro|<nowiki>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ht-5Zhu-ek</nowiki>, at 0:21. I've heard some claims that this is Axel, and while I believe that the scene is a strong parallel of Sora's awakening, the figure seems to very slightly have Axel's more feminine form, though he seems to have Roxas's height. Can anyone else provide input here? I personally can't figure out what Axel would be doing there, and it doesn't seem like him to be both silent and avoiding the fight.

On a related note, the article needs to reword all of the "it's Roxas" bits from their current super-speculatory form. A better way to word it, I think, is to say something like "a figure that seems to share Roxas's figure", or something else less absolute.}}
== Picture ==
{{Animebolt|text=Is there anyway for the main picture to be centered?}}
{{GS|time=08:14, October 12, 2009 (UTC)|text=The side of it is cut off, it wouldn't look proper.}}
{{Animebolt|text=Oh, I thought it was a full picture. Thnx for clearing that up for me}}

==Gallery picture + video coding went awry==
{{TNE|time=02:51, April 15, 2010 (UTC)|text=I tried looking at the code in the Videos section but nothing seems to look wrong... Someone please help ?}}
:The videos fixed, though it should be replaced with a youtube version so that it is centered correctly. No idea what's wrong with the image, maybe it got deleted.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 15:20, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
::Thank youuuu ^_^ I reckon that the one in the Gallery was the official artwork, what else could've been put in there ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 15:31, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

== Guardian ==

{{NitrousX|xmastext=Okay, here's a theory.... I think that each Nobody has the dormant ability to summon a "Guardian" of some sort, but they have to be REALLY powerful for it to work. For example Xemnas's Dragoon Ship and Marluxia's Spectre. I also think that the guardians can turn on their masters if they leave the Organization or are ordered to by Xemnas (for example: Roxas's Twilight Thorn). While I'm on the subject of the Twilight Thorn being Roxas' "Guardian", I'm going to add this: Roxas was in the Awakening when he fought the Twilight Thorn, so if the Awakening truly happens in the heart, then that means his dormant "Guardian" attacked him.... I dunno, maybe it's possible.}}

{{Xabryn|text= Your theory of a "Guardian" make sense but if it is really true i don't think that Twilight Torn is Roxas "Guardian" cuz he attacked Roxas and not tryied to rescue him, much like when the Assassins attacked Axel}}

{{LCCH|text=Well, isn't it possible the TT was just trying to bring Roxas back?}}

[[File:Xena_Ava.png|thumb]]Xena Organization OC: Well it seems logical that TT wants Roxas back.

That sounds exactly like the story behind the Eidolons in FFXIII, no?[[User:Axel&#39;s Sentiment|Axel&#39;s Sentiment]] 06:03, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

the Eidolons in FF13 serve as protectors of the party members. they are the physical embodiment of their will and emotions. an Eidolon appears before their human when they are in a sad, almost suicidal state of mind, then casts doom on them to get them to fight for their life. after fighting their Eidolon, and beating it in battle, the doom spell is removed as their human has regained their will to fight and live another day. from that point they serv as the players summon, each character only getting one summon.

another interesting thing about Eidolons in 13, each playable character, accept Hope, their Eidolon is the opposite gender than they are.
[[User:Ixbran|Ixbran]] 09:00, July 17, 2010 (UTC)