Editing Talk:Terra

I've noticed how on some pages they put videos up for the xtra boss fights mainly on organization XIII and I was wondering if we could do the same for the other characters, not sure wether or not this is the right page for that [[User:Hazesky|Hazesky]] 01:07, 17 December 2007 (UTC) Hazesky

[[user: NeloAngelo|Nelo]]: go ahead, though I think the [[user: Scottch|Admin]] wants the "non-blury" ones.

I'll see if i can find one and if i do how do you add them to a site page[[User:Hazesky|Hazesky]]Hazesky

I found a link but how do I upload it [[User:Hazesky|Hazesky]] Hazesky

added video but I couldn't find one with cut scenes so it's just the fight for now [[User:Ejud10|Ejud10]] 02:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC) 

== pic ==

{{zackfair007|text=i wanted to use this to show the similarities of zack and terra on the actual page. Anyone say yes?}}

[[Image:TerravsZack.jpg]]

{{Drake|time=21:20, 14 September 2008 (UTC)|text=Not with that image, waaaaay to big. You just need a decently sized image of Zack, like the one of Reno on Axel's page.}}

make it smaller, like 250 px.


That's freakin amazing, if you did a better job, I'd mail you a cookie.

Well. I could say they're almost similar.
By the way, just a slight deviation, Drake : how'd you create that speech-bubble-like thing ? [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 01:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:The ffwiki ,made it, and uh there are instructions http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Help:FAQ#Talk_Bubbles here

Thanks Zack Fair ! :D [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 07:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Something's not right. Whenever I want to create the template:TroisnyxetienneText, it doesn't seem to work. I created a template - a link was formed instead. Anything I should do? [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 07:46, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Terra, Then Xehanort, Then Ansem ==

I know people hate theories but I have a strong feeling I've got this right:

Terra was a keyblade master with Ven and Aqua under Master Xehanort. Then for some reason Master Xehanort and his apprentice go missing and Terra, Ven and Aqua set out to find them. During their search, (or possibley after since they apparently found them as seen in the Birth By Sleep secret ending) something happens to Ven and Aqua, and Terra falls to the Darkness and takes the name of his old master, Xehanort. Then Terra/Xehanort somehow finds his way to Ansem the Wise and becomes his apprentice along with Braig, Dilan, Even, and Ienzo. Then through the events of the Ansem Reports, he banishes Ansem the Wise and takes his old master's name once again. Willingly giving up his heart to the darkness, he becomes Ansem(Xehanort's Heartless) and Xemnas(Xehanort's Nobody). The Enigmatic Soldier in Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ could be many things, Xemnas in disguise, a ghost or spirit of some sort, or possibley just a sneak peek of what's to come in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep. This would also explain why Xemnas calls Aqua's armor and keyblade "friend" because Terra and Aqua where friends (or at least on good terms) in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep...........So, what does everyone think?

{{Billylemmon|text=[[Xehanort]] has blonde hair. And also; sounds silly.}}

Maybe so. I've noticed that Xemnas, who was the optional boss for Kingdom Hearts Final Mix, was the main antagonist for Kingdom Hearts II. If this trend is followed by Tetsuya Nomura, then Terra, who is the optional boss for Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+, could very well be the Xehanort we all come to know and love - um, hate - um, whatever. And, if this theory is followed - that each person has a heart, body and soul (when divided, would form a Heartless, Nobody and Unbirth) - then this may be the Unbirth of Terra (I'm not saying it is). Also, Xehanort had no prior memory of what he was, but it seems he appeared after a great Keyblade War ended.

On another note, the theory may not be true, on three accounts :

- Take a good look at the image of Xehanort in Ansem's Study in Radiant Garden. Yes, their hairstyles are similar, and it is rumoured that Terra's hair turns white while his eyes turn amber towards the end of Birth By Sleep, BUT... Terra has '''blue''' eyes while Xehanort has '''brown''' eyes. 

- Also, in the previous Kingdom Hearts, when we look at the reports written by the fake Ansem, i.e. Xehanort's Heartless, he is rather inquisitive about the Keyblade, saying that it is mysterious, also quoting that some people say it is used for the restoration of the worlds ; others say it was used for destruction, and he doesn't seem to know the nature of the Keyblade. Xehanort's Heartless comes to Destiny Islands in the brown robe at the beginning of Kingdom Hearts to tap Sora's power as the wielder of the Keyblade - '''had Terra actually been Xehanort, he wouldn't have done that as he knows the power of the Keyblade, he himself is a Keyblade master.''' (Or could it all be pretence ?) And according to Ansem's Secret Reports, a Nobody would usually take on the form of the soul. If the Terra we fought in Kingdom Hearts II were an Unbirth, methinks he should look like Xemnas - but Terra looks nothing like Xemnas. 

- Terra and Ven were '''friends'''. If Terra were Xehanort and Xemnas - the same person, he'd have known the true nature of Sora and Roxas, and in both cases, wouldn't seek to eliminate him (Xehanort wanted to kill Sora to extract Kairi's heart and open the final Keyhole ; Xemnas instructed Axel to eliminate Roxas if he didn't rejoin the Organization). After all, Sora, Roxas and Ven are connected. (A possible counter-argument to this is the fact that Ven told Terra, "You're my friend, right ? Erase me." This may have led Xehanort and Xemnas to do the same to Sora and Roxas.)
[[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 10:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

How could he have known the true nature of Sora and Roxas if he became Xehanort? Xehanort lost all his memories in Radiant Garden so he doesn't know them anymore [[User:Romeo$JoKer|Romeo$JoKer]] 23:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)Romeo$Joker

{{TNE|text=Notice that I didn't dismiss the theory entirely. :) I mean, it's plausible and all also, because the logo he, Aqua and Ven wear resembles that of the Heartless logo, and when turned upside down, it resembles that of the Nobodies. Ansem the Wise found him in Radiant Garden when he had lost his memory - all he knew was a Keyblade War.

Well, if worse comes to worst we'd just as well wait for what Nomura has to say...... before (as some people say) we crack our heads on this.}}


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|text= My theory is very similar to yours, except for a few things. So here it goes, Terra, Ven, and Aqua find out Master Xehanort and his apprentice leave, so they go out and find him. In an epic showdown, Terra is separated from Aqua after she goes to help Ven, then he finds Master Xehanort and fights him, he beats him and his apprentice, but with his last bit of strength, Xehanort throws him into the realm of Nothingness. Terra, being in the realm of Nothingness, changes his appearance and loses his memories, and can only remember hating Xehanort for throwing him in there. Using some unknown power, he manages to get out of the realm and into Radiant Garden. Ansem finds him, and Terra keeps mumbeling Xehanort, so Ansem gives him that name. That is my theory.
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{{TNE|text=Sounds logical..... And another thing - what with that blue Kingdom Hearts in the sky ? Even Terra was looking up to it.}}

{{NitrousX|text=Master Xehanort is probably trying to harness its power. Then after Terra loses his memories and becomes Xehanort and then turns into a Heartless and Nobody, he keeps the goal of his Master and/or possesor. What do you think of that theory?}}

You forgot Aeleus in your theory, who later became Lexaeus.[[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 13:25, 5 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

== Terra or Lingering Sentiment? ==

It has never been officially stated that Terra is the Lingering Sentiment.
So, all info on Terra's alleged KH2FM appearance has been moved into a new topic.

Which IS the new topic ? --[[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 02:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

It's [[The Lingering Sentiment]]

Thanks! I'll go check it out. [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 01:53, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


It's only speculation that Terra is the Lingering Sentiment, hence the information stating that Terra is the Lingering Sentiment should stay off this page until a confirmation. And seeing as that video depicts the Lingering Sentiment, and not Terra, it should also remain off of this page.


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==Rank==

I've just noticed his emblem is a different colour from Ven's and Aqua's meaning he may be a higher rank of keyblade warrior or whatever. It's also in a different place. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 23:22, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=Which emblem ? I haven't noticed. o.O}}

It's on his belt whilsts Ven's and Aqua's are on thier chests. It kinda looks like a heart. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 13:25, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=Oh. That one. I got it. Perchance he could be the leader of the trio.}}

{{Xiggie|text= Here's a good picture of the trio, Terra has got a golden symbol/emblem while Ven and Aqua have got silver}}

[[Image:Birth_by_Sleep_group_shot.jpg|thumb|left|400px]]






{{TNE|happytext=Sweet ! And I also notice that they've got this X-shaped thingy on their clothes. Think it represents something ?

Oh shoot, take a good look at Terra's hair, and then take a look at [[Xemnas]]' hair and [[Xehanort]]'s hair. Forget the eye colour, the way their hair is parted is coincidentally the same : there's a lot of hair at the centre. And the emblem which Terra, Ven '''AND''' Aqua are wearing somewhat resembles the Heartless symbol, albeit with no dark parts and no cross marks. Maybe the theory which I refuted '''is''' true after all. If Terra's hair '''did''' turn white towards the end of Birth By Sleep, then I guess this Xehanort saga just ain't gonna end.}}

I don't know, i still think it's MX's appretice even if it is too obvious. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 19:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=Na, MX's apprentice hasn't got anything obvious to him. He's covered, and shady, and not much is said about him...

Okay. So we have two contradicting theories. One is MX's apprentice being Xehanort. The other is Terra being Xehanort. I've already said much of the yes and no points for the second theory in this page.

Nomura himself said Xigbar was referring to '''Terra, Ven and Aqua''' when he said "You weren't half the hero the others were. Which means while he was Braig, or while he became a Nobody, he fought them off. Darn, could things get any more complicated ??}}


Is terra wearing a dress? o.0[[User:Master of Valor|(Sora) (Soa) R) (Sa) Rox) (S) Roxa) (Roxas)]] 09:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=Now that you mention it, I can't help laughing. It looks somewhat like a dress, though methinks it could be flare pants.

EDIT : He's wearing a [[wikipedia:hakama|hakama]].}}

looks like Samuri trousers to me. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 16:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

First of all troisnyxetienne (is that it?) how does "Your not half the hero the others were" indicate that he '''PARTICIPATED''' in the fight? Maybe he was an observer? I mean when you see the birth by sleep video with say, a giant pillar no pillar'''s''' of rock, a  a storm of keyblade'''s''', (you only use two in superform) people being frozen solid MX wieling a giant keyblade with a battleaxe head in ONE hand; not to mention the "Lingering Sentiment's"
Transformations and then look at Sora there is a noticible difference
Oh and i know who Xehanort is.

You know what would be funny and unexpected? Terra was the good guy and Ven and Aqua turned out to be the bad guys!!! I would love to see that. [[User:Augment96|Augment96]] 04:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|blahtext=You're getting out of point here. What you see is only one part of Birth By Sleep. For all you know, Braig would've had a confrontation with them long before Master Xehanort unleashed his fury on them. And by the way, that is '''Ven''' not Sora ! Remember that Birth By Sleep takes place some ten or more years before the first Kingdom Hearts.

Well, if Terra were to be the good guy and Ven and Aqua otherwise, yeah, that'd be unexpected. I mean, we don't know.

Who do you think is Xehanort, by the way ?}}

I'm not sure who you're talking to me or augment96. I haven't confused sora and ven and I simply don't see any indication that Braig participated in the fight. I mean you can tell Sephiroth is Badass and he's not kicking your ass. (well he is but...) Oh, and it's obvious who Xehanort is. Xehanort is Xehanort. Dun DUN DUUUUUNNNNN

{{Xiggie|text=Well, personally, I think Xehanort is Terra but if Xigbar fought him, it's unlikely that Terra is Xehanort (See my [http://khxiggie.blogcentral.is/blog/2009/2/1/who-is-xehanort/ blog] about this, and please comment)}}

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND: XEHANORT IS XEHANORT'S SECRET IDENTITY
Seriously you guys are over-thinking this

{{TNE|angrytext=I know '''I'm''' not. If you think Xehanort is Xehanort, then how is Master Xehanort related to Xehanort in any way ? Along with the clothes ?

'''And for crying out loud, can you at least SIGN your posts so we all know we're not talking to a ghost ? Or the Nobody of Augment96 ?'''}}

{{Xiggie|text=Yeah, please sign your username! And we are just wandering who Xehaort '''might''' be because he shoved up in Hollow Bastion/Radient Garden after some "keyblade war" having lost his memory and called himself Xehanort. We're just saying that he could be Terra or MX apprentice or someone else (what do we know? :P)

Do you think that '''Master Xehanort''' is the Xehanort we know? common, look at their age, hairstyle and so forth... they don't even look similar.}}

{{ShadowXemnas
|time=Turn to Darkness!
|text=Hold up...there seems to be a bit of a time gap in this Xigbar theory. Sure, in order to have said what he told Sora, he wold have had to either met those three or heard of them. All we currently know about Braig is that he was an apprentice under Ansem the Wise, and this happened while the Xehanort we all know was also Ansem's apprentice. It's possible that Xigbar got the info out of a book somewhere, but if he'd met them, he'd have to be pretty old by now...say...if he did meet them, than is it possible that Braig might be MX's apprentice?
}}

{{Xiggie|text=Could be, well, if Terra became Xehanort! then it could make sense. But I think that Braig isn't MXA}}

Well, Xigbar looks like the oldest menber of the org as his hair is going gray as opposed to being naturly grey. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 22:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I find this interesting on the whole Xehanort's Identity issue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S1cIb2MUrM
Ven?

Why would Terra think sora is Xehanort?

Sora:"I may no longer be me? how could i be anyone else?"

== Fate of Terra ==

At the end of the video, Terra's eyes become like a yellowish gold, similar to the [[Heartless]] right? Well I was thinking, since the Heartless didn't exist in [[Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep]], could that mean that Terra could have became the VERY first Heartless? --[[User:SS INFINITY|SS INFINITY]] 20:18, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

:Nice, ive never heard that theory but im not sure that heartless didnt exsist i mean maybe the Emblem heartless didnt exsist but purebloods i always imagine have been around for as long as the darkness has.--[[User:Ximodnic|Ximodnic]] 21:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
{{Twoface13|Good theory. If you want to elaborate on it, click on Light.|}}

Yes, that's what I was thinking of. Xehanort was said to discover the Heartless, but as far as we know the Heartless could have existed prior to that. Or that's what I believe. --[[User:SS INFINITY|SS INFINITY]] 00:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

== Main Image ==

{{HarpieSirenTalk|text=Okay, the quality of the image we were using was really bothering me... so I decided to make it match Aqua's page. I hope no one minds.}}

Hey, maybe your right (to the guy who left a theory about Terra being Xehanort, etc.. But you seem to dismiss your own theory because Terra would have known all these things, when it has been confirmed that Ansem the Wise found someone that had LOST THEIR MEMORY, and named him Xehanort as it was the only thing he could remember. This would make a lot of sense if Terra was Xehanort like you said.

== Terra and Lingering Sentiment ==

http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/scenario-mysteries-interview/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVtfLp7nHdM&feature=related

==Terra=Saix?==
I dunno. Just kinda drawin' a comparison here.

Their hairstyles are a bit similar. Both appear to transform when staring into Kingdom Hearts and of course: Terra - Master Xehanort and Saix - Xemnas [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 20:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
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+I've noticed how on some pages they put videos up for the xtra boss fights mainly on organization XIII and I was wondering if we could do the same for the other characters, not sure wether or not this is the right page for that [[User:Hazesky|Hazesky]] 01:07, 17 December 2007 (UTC) Hazesky
-* [[Talk:Terra/Archive 1|Archive 1]] - October 29, 2009
-}}
-== Terra's special commands ==
-I probably am the only one who noticed but... on aqua's and ventus's pages, all exclusives commands are listed or at least mentioned. while on Terra's page, there is only his command styles. could someone explain me or add his exclusives commands please. (I know it isn't THAT imnportant but it bugs me)--you anv i will have to join together! 02:04, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
+[[user: NeloAngelo|Nelo]]: go ahead, though I think the [[user: Scottch|Admin]] wants the "non-blury" ones.
-== this may already be discussed ==
+I'll see if i can find one and if i do how do you add them to a site page[[User:Hazesky|Hazesky]]Hazesky
-while this may have already been discussed, what about the link of terra with zack from ffvii? after all ffvii charecters have appeared in KH.
+I found a link but how do I upload it [[User:Hazesky|Hazesky]] Hazesky
-:That was discussed elsewhere, on the Master Eraqus page if I'm not mistaken, and it was decided that only the reference to Reno on Axel's page would stay, because that was confirmed by Tetsuya Nomura. [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 05:17, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
+added video but I couldn't find one with cut scenes so it's just the fight for now [[User:Ejud10|Ejud10]] 02:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
-{{Maggosh|text=Plus Zack appears so it's pretty much null}}
+== pic ==
-==Armor form==
+{{zackfair007|text=i wanted to use this to show the similarities of zack and terra on the actual page. Anyone say yes?}}
-The armor form in the gallery is from the story mode not from Joint Struggle, here is the article that talks about it [http://kh13.com/zenphoto/articles/famitsu-january-2010-translated/famitsu_091210_01-02_eng.jpg.php]. Now that "you" know please stop editing it to say its from joint struggle ;D--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 04:58, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
+[[Image:TerravsZack.jpg]]
-:Can anybody find any differences between the story armor and the LS armor, besides the bucklers and cape?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:16, December 2, 2009 (UTC)
-== Battles ==
+{{Drake|time=21:20, 14 September 2008 (UTC)|text=Not with that image, waaaaay to big. You just need a decently sized image of Zack, like the one of Reno on Axel's page.}}
-{{Zonnic2|tekst= I think that we need to start adding battles to the pages of TAV because at the moment there are a large number of boss battles for TAV and there will be lost more once BBS is released.}}
+make it smaller, like 250 px.
-== Trivia article on Terra as a summon/D-Link ==
-{{RN1|text=Is this really true though, Mickey was playable in KH2 and 358/2 Days}}
+That's freakin amazing, if you did a better job, I'd mail you a cookie.
-There. I improved that trivia. I hope you liked.
+Well. I could say they're almost similar.
+By the way, just a slight deviation, Drake : how'd you create that speech-bubble-like thing ? [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 01:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
+:The ffwiki ,made it, and uh there are instructions http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Help:FAQ#Talk_Bubbles here
-== Terra's helmet and the jackal reference ==
+Thanks Zack Fair ! :D [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 07:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
-I removed the reference to jackals that was placed with the description of Terra's helmet. My reasoning is that the jackal reference is based on the initial Anubis reference, and to help the article appear more concise. [http://www.wildlife-pictures-online.com/image-files/jackal-6368blog.jpg Here]'s a link to an image of a jackal, which clearly shows no resemblance to Terra's helmet. My argument is that the appearance of Terra's helmet can be interpreted differently depending on who sees it. For example, I for one thought it looked like Batman (shown [http://accad.osu.edu/~aprice/courses/BVE/leveldesign/ply_mdl_gama_files/Figure_04_Batman.jpg here] and [http://www.digitalsomething.com/media/images/batman%20aa%20cover.jpeg here], especially the second image). But I don't want it to say "the helmet looks much like Batman's ears" either. My point is, it would be better to leave the description neutral, and let the actual image of the armor do the "talking". --[[User:WorldOfChaos|WorldOfChaos]] 16:01, December 14, 2009 (UTC)
+Okay. Something's not right. Whenever I want to create the template:TroisnyxetienneText, it doesn't seem to work. I created a template - a link was formed instead. Anything I should do? [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 07:46, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
-== Fight ==
+== Terra, Then Xehanort, Then Ansem ==
-{{Template:ST|time=18:46, December 15, 2009 (UTC)|text=Uumm yeah, does anyone have any ideas or theories on wtf wuz up with that fight thing between Terra and Aqua?}}
+I know people hate theories but I have a strong feeling I've got this right:
-Maybe something like when Sora and Riku fight but diffrent reason. --[[User:Cococrash11|Cococrash11]] 23:48, December 15, 2009 (UTC)Cococrash11
+Terra was a keyblade master with Ven and Aqua under Master Xehanort. Then for some reason Master Xehanort and his apprentice go missing and Terra, Ven and Aqua set out to find them. During their search, (or possibley after since they apparently found them as seen in the Birth By Sleep secret ending) something happens to Ven and Aqua, and Terra falls to the Darkness and takes the name of his old master, Xehanort. Then Terra/Xehanort somehow finds his way to Ansem the Wise and becomes his apprentice along with Braig, Dilan, Even, and Ienzo. Then through the events of the Ansem Reports, he banishes Ansem the Wise and takes his old master's name once again. Willingly giving up his heart to the darkness, he becomes Ansem(Xehanort's Heartless) and Xemnas(Xehanort's Nobody). The Enigmatic Soldier in Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ could be many things, Xemnas in disguise, a ghost or spirit of some sort, or possibley just a sneak peek of what's to come in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep. This would also explain why Xemnas calls Aqua's armor and keyblade "friend" because Terra and Aqua where friends (or at least on good terms) in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep...........So, what does everyone think?
-{{Pteprocks|time=[[User:Pteprocks|Pteprocks]] 21:56, December 18, 2009 (UTC)|text= Well, it looks to me like it's in the opening (or I suppose it could be ending) FMV (Judging by the graphics). So I have 2 theories:
+{{Billylemmon|text=[[Xehanort]] has blonde hair. And also; sounds silly.}}
-. If it's in the opening, it cloud be like a practice match or something in the Land of Departure.
-. If it's in the ending, it could have something to do with Terra's eyes turning yellow. Maybe somehow Master Xehanort is like controlling him or something, and Aqua has to try and stop him.}}
+Maybe so. I've noticed that Xemnas, who was the optional boss for Kingdom Hearts Final Mix, was the main antagonist for Kingdom Hearts II. If this trend is followed by Tetsuya Nomura, then Terra, who is the optional boss for Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+, could very well be the Xehanort we all come to know and love - um, hate - um, whatever. And, if this theory is followed - that each person has a heart, body and soul (when divided, would form a Heartless, Nobody and Unbirth) - then this may be the Unbirth of Terra (I'm not saying it is). Also, Xehanort had no prior memory of what he was, but it seems he appeared after a great Keyblade War ended.
---I Agree on both parts that it could be either a sparring match while still in Land of Departure or an end of game scene but in the still Terra looks more like hes fighting to kill than for practice or fun so to me it seems more likely its towards the end when they turn from friends to enemys, assuming they do ofcourse.--[[User:Ximodnic|Ximodnic]] 18:26, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
+On another note, the theory may not be true, on three accounts :
-{{Ataradesu|time=21:52, December 23, 2009 (UTC)|text= Since he doesn't have yellow eyes and none of them is wearing their armors so I definitely don't think it takes place at the end.}}
+- Take a good look at the image of Xehanort in Ansem's Study in Radiant Garden. Yes, their hairstyles are similar, and it is rumoured that Terra's hair turns white while his eyes turn amber towards the end of Birth By Sleep, BUT... Terra has '''blue''' eyes while Xehanort has '''brown''' eyes.
-{{Xabryn|time=04:12, December 29, 2009 (UTC)|text=Maybe it is because of the Master Qualification Exam, i mean maybe the test is a fight for show the keyblade wielders abilities. or maybe is because of Terra submiting himself to darkness}}
+- Also, in the previous Kingdom Hearts, when we look at the reports written by the fake Ansem, i.e. Xehanort's Heartless, he is rather inquisitive about the Keyblade, saying that it is mysterious, also quoting that some people say it is used for the restoration of the worlds ; others say it was used for destruction, and he doesn't seem to know the nature of the Keyblade. Xehanort's Heartless comes to Destiny Islands in the brown robe at the beginning of Kingdom Hearts to tap Sora's power as the wielder of the Keyblade - '''had Terra actually been Xehanort, he wouldn't have done that as he knows the power of the Keyblade, he himself is a Keyblade master.''' (Or could it all be pretence ?) And according to Ansem's Secret Reports, a Nobody would usually take on the form of the soul. If the Terra we fought in Kingdom Hearts II were an Unbirth, methinks he should look like Xemnas - but Terra looks nothing like Xemnas.
-{{Firaga44|text=Well in the new birth by sleep trailer i think master eraqus said something along the lines of"If it seems like Terra is turning to darkness bring him back"well maybe he does Aqua tries to stop him he refuses and their fighting because of that?Well that's all i can think of}}
-{{Template:ST|time=22:22, December 30, 2009 (UTC)|text=The expressions on both of there faces makes me thnk it's more than some sparring session. on another note though does anyone have a guess on the ''where'' they're fighting at}}
+- Terra and Ven were '''friends'''. If Terra were Xehanort and Xemnas - the same person, he'd have known the true nature of Sora and Roxas, and in both cases, wouldn't seek to eliminate him (Xehanort wanted to kill Sora to extract Kairi's heart and open the final Keyhole ; Xemnas instructed Axel to eliminate Roxas if he didn't rejoin the Organization). After all, Sora, Roxas and Ven are connected. (A possible counter-argument to this is the fact that Ven told Terra, "You're my friend, right ? Erase me." This may have led Xehanort and Xemnas to do the same to Sora and Roxas.)
+[[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 10:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
+How could he have known the true nature of Sora and Roxas if he became Xehanort? Xehanort lost all his memories in Radiant Garden so he doesn't know them anymore [[User:Romeo$JoKer|Romeo$JoKer]] 23:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)Romeo$Joker
-{{Key-blade master|time=02:04, January 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=From what i've heard, terra and aqua's fighting is due to the master qualifaction exam.}}
+{{TNE|text=Notice that I didn't dismiss the theory entirely. :) I mean, it's plausible and all also, because the logo he, Aqua and Ven wear resembles that of the Heartless logo, and when turned upside down, it resembles that of the Nobodies. Ansem the Wise found him in Radiant Garden when he had lost his memory - all he knew was a Keyblade War.
-==Terra's English voice==
+Well, if worse comes to worst we'd just as well wait for what Nomura has to say...... before (as some people say) we crack our heads on this.}}
-Since English actors are already bein' confirmed for the cast...I'm bettin' on JYB as Terra. I just know it's gonna happen. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 20:23, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
-I'm betting he's getting an minorly famous live action actor rather than a professional voice actor, just like the rest of the main characters. [[User:HarpieSiren|HarpieSiren]] 20:21, January 8, 2010 (UTC)
-== Terra's ending *spoiler* ==
+{{TalkTextTest2
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+|sig=Now! Let's savor the utmost of suffering together!
+|name=Morghman
+|text= My theory is very similar to yours, except for a few things. So here it goes, Terra, Ven, and Aqua find out Master Xehanort and his apprentice leave, so they go out and find him. In an epic showdown, Terra is separated from Aqua after she goes to help Ven, then he finds Master Xehanort and fights him, he beats him and his apprentice, but with his last bit of strength, Xehanort throws him into the realm of Nothingness. Terra, being in the realm of Nothingness, changes his appearance and loses his memories, and can only remember hating Xehanort for throwing him in there. Using some unknown power, he manages to get out of the realm and into Radiant Garden. Ansem finds him, and Terra keeps mumbeling Xehanort, so Ansem gives him that name. That is my theory.
+|time=As the other dies, their agony radiates through my body, and living through it is pure ecstasy!
+}}
-{{Xiggie|time=00:07, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|happy='''<big><big>{{Spoiler}}</big></big>'''
+{{TNE|text=Sounds logical..... And another thing - what with that blue Kingdom Hearts in the sky ? Even Terra was looking up to it.}}
-Just wanted to say what I know as of yet, mainly the ending:
+{{NitrousX|text=Master Xehanort is probably trying to harness its power. Then after Terra loses his memories and becomes Xehanort and then turns into a Heartless and Nobody, he keeps the goal of his Master and/or possesor. What do you think of that theory?}}
-* After the KHIIFM secret move scene, Terra fights with Vanitas, but MX soon tells Vanitas to go find Ventus.
+You forgot Aeleus in your theory, who later became Lexaeus.[[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 13:25, 5 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1
-* Terra then fights with MX. Once that battle is won, Kingdom Hearts is "completed" and the door to light opens up, apparently.
-* MX opens up his own Heart with his Keyblade (just like Sora did in KHI), and sends his Heart into terra, to take over his body.
-* Once MX's heart is inside Terra, He is suddenly in full armor, and holding MX's keyblade. He talkes his armor off, and It now looks like Terra, but his hair is white. MX has taken over his body (he's become the Xehanort we know)
-* Suddenly, the empty Armor btands up, and summons Terra's KHIIFM keyblade. The armor (the Lingering Sentiment) and "Terranort" fight.
-* After beating "Terranort", the Lingering Sentiment gets down on it's knees, and goes into the pose we see him in in KHIIFM (looks like he hasn't moved an inch in 10 years...)
-* Soon, Kingdom Hearts disappears, and Terranort does too (we can guess that Terranort ends up in Radiant Garden, where Ansem finds him... suffering from amnesia, and takes him under his wing.
-* After Kingdom Hearts has disappeared, the Lingering Sentiment (as said before) is perfectly still in the same spot until everything fades to black. Then we hear Terra's voice saying "Aqua... Ventus..." and then something in Japanese which i didn't understand...
-* The end for Terra!
-References:
+== Terra or Lingering Sentiment? ==
-* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WyQN_-e8CE Terra VS. MX + cutscene]
-* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBMJbCzCn8U Lingering Sentiment vs. Terranort + cutscene/ending]
-Well, shouldn't this be added to the article?}}
+It has never been officially stated that Terra is the Lingering Sentiment.
+So, all info on Terra's alleged KH2FM appearance has been moved into a new topic.
+Which IS the new topic ? --[[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 02:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
-{{EO|time=00:12, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=I was hoping to add that, as soon as the article was unlocked. It all makes sense now :P}}
+It's [[The Lingering Sentiment]]
-{{KrytenKoro|Doesn't this completely muck up KH and KHII? After all, if it's just MX's heart and Terra's body and Soul, Xemnas shouldn't have been evil at all. Makes sense for "Ansem", I guess, since he ends up being a youthened MX (and might explain why there are 2 Heartless there!), but he shouldn't have even looked like Terra.}}
-{{Randomnessity|time=01:21, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=So this image:
-[[File:The Last Bastion of Free Will 03 KHBBS.png|300px]]
-is real?}}
-{{Oddishh|text=indeed it is. Got in from youtube and somebody print screened it. It's real, i made sure.}}
+Thanks! I'll go check it out. [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 01:53, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
-{{Xiggie|time=01:34, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|talk=Yes. That's "Terranort"}}
-{{Randomnessity|time=01:40, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|text='''YES!!!!''' I was right all along about Terra being Xehanort! Of course, it really isn't that hard to tell.}}
-{{Venkix|text= Yeah Terra is Xehanort. It was predictable. Since its a prequel and everything...}}
-{{Randomnessity|time=01:54, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=But still incredibly cool!}}
-You know what. After finding this out.......Birth by Sleep...is Mega Man Zero 3 D: Terra's voiced by Ryotaro Okiayu, who also voices Zero. Xehanort's voiced by Chikao Atsuko, who voices Weil. Xehanort/Weil steals the bodies of Zero/Terra for their own evil ends. Both Terra and Zero go to sleep after defeating Xehanort and Weil, never again to be disturbed for decade(s). [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 02:09, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
+It's only speculation that Terra is the Lingering Sentiment, hence the information stating that Terra is the Lingering Sentiment should stay off this page until a confirmation. And seeing as that video depicts the Lingering Sentiment, and not Terra, it should also remain off of this page.
-::That's pretty much exactly what happens. It's cool, but MMZ3 did it first and ''way'' better.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 02:22, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
-{{Randomnessity|time=02:24, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=Never played MMZ3, so this story is a first for me.}}
-Eh. Anyway. With the previous questions bein' answered. Time for...MORE QUESTIONS!
-*Why doesn't Xehanort's Heartless and Xemnas wield a Keyblade? We know that the Keyblade is neutral in alignment as both light and dark users can wield one. We also know now that the Xehanort we know and Master Xehanort are one in the same.
+----
+==Rank==
-*What of Terra's body after the creation of Xehanort's Heartless and Xemnas? Will it really come back despite that Terra has become the Lingering Sentiment?
+I've just noticed his emblem is a different colour from Ven's and Aqua's meaning he may be a higher rank of keyblade warrior or whatever. It's also in a different place. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 23:22, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
-Yeeeah [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 02:29, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
+{{TNE|text=Which emblem ? I haven't noticed. o.O}}
-{{Xiggie|time=02:58, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|talk=Nomura once stated that if you forget how to wield the keyblade, you lose the power to do so. Permanently.
+It's on his belt whilsts Ven's and Aqua's are on thier chests. It kinda looks like a heart. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 13:25, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
-It is my theory that when MX took over Terra's body, Terra's soul and perhaps his Heart too, were "moved" into his armor. Then Xehanort was Terra's body+MX's soul and Heart, which explains the behavior of Xemnas and "Ansem", as they are the Body and Heart.
+{{TNE|text=Oh. That one. I got it. Perchance he could be the leader of the trio.}}
-I wonder why Terra's remains (the Lingering Sentiment) couldn't go anywhere... Why was it stationary in the Keyblade Graveyard?
+{{Xiggie|text= Here's a good picture of the trio, Terra has got a golden symbol/emblem while Ven and Aqua have got silver}}
-And I wonder how Aqua's armor (with her spirit in it) ended up in the Chamber of Repose... I dunno for sure, but I've heard that Her story ends with her heading out to look for her missing friend; Terra.
+[[Image:Birth_by_Sleep_group_shot.jpg|thumb|left|400px]]
-I really hope that someone will crack up the secret movie soon, as it is said to have more info...}}
-{{Randomnessity|time=03:05, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=So is the whole Xehanort/amnesia thing just a ploy by MX, or did he really forget everything when he did the takeover of Terra's body? And about the stationary Terra's remains, maybe he simply couldn't move anywhere, or had no other place to go. It doesn't make sense, but oddly enough I can imagine Nomura saying that for some reason.}}
-The thing is after "Terranort" is born terra's remains become the lingering sentiment and knock xehanort out.so yeah head injurys. also in gameplay terms one of terra's mode changes "Dark Impulse" should probably be added to the article at some point.
-{{LapisScarab|time=03:31, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=Perhaps Terra's soul was bound to the Kingdom Hearts-esque moon in some way and couldn't leave the world it was in.}}
-{{Randomnessity|time=03:33, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=The moon disappeared though didn't it? And I didn't see it in the KHIIFM battle.... But that does make sense.... The way the moon was shining directly on him as the clouds covered it.....}}
-{{MasterX|time=16.07|xehanort= Well, I played KH2FM+, and I thought that Terra was the Lingering Sentiment. And that He and a link with Master Xehanort to become Xehanort. Now it's just been confirmed. But we still don't know the outcome for Ven and aqua, and they are all important! I need to know if Ven is Roxas! Someone get the info!}}
-{{Randomnessity|text=Well, I wouldn't say Ven is Roxas, but there has to be a connection between him and Sora.}}
-{{Ataradesu|text= I just want you guys to know that Master Xehanort's plan failed. He took over Terra's body for a while only. LS is not Terra, it's the good within him. What's left in Terra's body is Terra's darkside, Eraqus (for some reason...) and MX. When MX is in control, he has yellow eyes. However, when he's found by Ansem, he still has yellow eyes and says he's called Xehanort. But in the secret ending, we do see Evil Terra and MX talking in, we guess, "their" body (since the light around them indicates they have no physical shape, the same that was around MX when he got rid of his heart and disappeared) and what's following is pretty interesting. Braig goes to talk to Xehanort, calling him ironicly "Master", and then stops, and stares at his eyes, which are brown, not yellow, and Braig then says "Impossible... Terra ?!" , since Braig was smiling when he heard Terranort said he was Xehanort, and that he's surprised to see Terra after that, we can assume MX didn't control long. It's more like Terra's darkness with MX Eraqus and Terra's heart in the body. Oh gosh Nomura, let's not even talk about Vanitas >_>.}}
-With braig's scene it seemed less like an indication that master vacated the premises and more like an uncertainty about who was in charge.
+{{TNE|happytext=Sweet ! And I also notice that they've got this X-shaped thingy on their clothes. Think it represents something ?
----
+Oh shoot, take a good look at Terra's hair, and then take a look at [[Xemnas]]' hair and [[Xehanort]]'s hair. Forget the eye colour, the way their hair is parted is coincidentally the same : there's a lot of hair at the centre. And the emblem which Terra, Ven '''AND''' Aqua are wearing somewhat resembles the Heartless symbol, albeit with no dark parts and no cross marks. Maybe the theory which I refuted '''is''' true after all. If Terra's hair '''did''' turn white towards the end of Birth By Sleep, then I guess this Xehanort saga just ain't gonna end.}}
-I'd have to put another vote in for "uncertainty" on Braig's part. Also, who's to say that Lingering Sentiment was motionless for 10 years? Admittedly, I've forgotten a good deal about the hidden battle, but since you access it through the Hall of the Cornerstone, isn't it possible that Sora's battle with Lingering Sentiment takes place in the past, the same way it's possible to enter Timeless River through the Hall?
+I don't know, i still think it's MX's appretice even if it is too obvious. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 19:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
-Also, what's this I keep hearing now and again about Aqua's armor in the Chamber of Repose having her soul in it? I recall Xigbar saying he'd heard another voice in the Chamber on occasions, but for all we know Xemnas might've had a split personality and would argue with his theoretical Terra half. Do we ever actually hear the armor speak?
+{{TNE|text=Na, MX's apprentice hasn't got anything obvious to him. He's covered, and shady, and not much is said about him...
-[[User:ChicoKiri|ChicoKiri]] 07:41, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
-== Ironic ==
+Okay. So we have two contradicting theories. One is MX's apprentice being Xehanort. The other is Terra being Xehanort. I've already said much of the yes and no points for the second theory in this page.
-{{Randomnessity|time=03:22, January 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=Anyone else find it ironic that Terra's final boss is against Terra, more or less.}}
+Nomura himself said Xigbar was referring to '''Terra, Ven and Aqua''' when he said "You weren't half the hero the others were. Which means while he was Braig, or while he became a Nobody, he fought them off. Darn, could things get any more complicated ??}}
-{{Venkix|text= Yeah it is ironic but it does make sence because terra's final bosss had to be himself since he was "fighting the darkness within his heart"}}
-== Fight with Eraqus? ==
+Is terra wearing a dress? o.0[[User:Master of Valor|(Sora) (Soa) R) (Sa) Rox) (S) Roxa) (Roxas)]] 09:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
-{{Randomnessity|text=I just read that Terra has boss fight against Eraqus. When and why does this happen?}}
+{{TNE|text=Now that you mention it, I can't help laughing. It looks somewhat like a dress, though methinks it could be flare pants.
-I'm not sure, but in a video I saw Eraqus was trying to kill Ventus (I think) and Terra suddenly appears and stops him. Terra then sends Ven somewhere using a portal while Terra stays behind and battle Eraqus.--[[User:Xsonicdragon|Xsonicdragon]] 00:30, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
+EDIT : He's wearing a [[wikipedia:hakama|hakama]].}}
-{{Randomnessity|text=Hmmm.... Well thanks for the info, but that just leaves me with more questions. What the heck was wrong with Eraqus?}}
-Well, also in another video but the same event taking place it shows a flashback between Eraqus and MX. They are talking and then MX attacks Eraqus with balls of darkness. Then Eraqus takes out his keyblade and tries to kill Ven. You know what happens after that.--[[User:Xsonicdragon|Xsonicdragon]] 03:29, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
+looks like Samuri trousers to me. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 16:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
-{{User:Naruto195/TalkTemplate|text=If I'm right,Eraqus attacks him because he wants to save Ventus from being used by Vanitas and MX. I'm not sure though|time=04:12, January 12, 2010 (UTC)}}
-No no your right Naruto195--[[User:Darkstar16|Darkstar16]] 13:22, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
+First of all troisnyxetienne (is that it?) how does "Your not half the hero the others were" indicate that he '''PARTICIPATED''' in the fight? Maybe he was an observer? I mean when you see the birth by sleep video with say, a giant pillar no pillar'''s''' of rock, a  a storm of keyblade'''s''', (you only use two in superform) people being frozen solid MX wieling a giant keyblade with a battleaxe head in ONE hand; not to mention the "Lingering Sentiment's"
+Transformations and then look at Sora there is a noticible difference
+Oh and i know who Xehanort is.
-{{Key-blade master|time=01:56, January 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=from what i've seen/heard Naruto195 is right. Eraqus realizes what Ven is and what he is truely capable of (im trying not to give stuff away), not knowing his reasoning, terra stops eraqus and saves ven.}}
+You know what would be funny and unexpected? Terra was the good guy and Ven and Aqua turned out to be the bad guys!!! I would love to see that. [[User:Augment96|Augment96]] 04:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
-{{Naruto195|time=[[User:Naruto195|Naruto195]] 04:16, January 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=Glad to know my guess was right. My other guess is that maybe Eraqus knew about the X-blade(not trying to spoil) and knew the link to Ven,but thats another guess,one I doubt}}
-{{Key-blade master|time=04:32, January 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=My quess is that he was unaware of the x-blade in the beginning, but as xehanort's plan was slowly revealed he may have learned about it. explaining his attack on ventus.}}
-== My theory on Terra/Xehahort ==
+{{TNE|blahtext=You're getting out of point here. What you see is only one part of Birth By Sleep. For all you know, Braig would've had a confrontation with them long before Master Xehanort unleashed his fury on them. And by the way, that is '''Ven''' not Sora ! Remember that Birth By Sleep takes place some ten or more years before the first Kingdom Hearts.
-I believe that Master Xehahort has combined himself with Terra, creating Xehahort. Terra's heart went into the Lingering Sentiment causing Xehahort to strive for a heart based on Terra's needs but Xehahort would also have wanted power because of MX's wants.
+Well, if Terra were to be the good guy and Ven and Aqua otherwise, yeah, that'd be unexpected. I mean, we don't know.
-After Xehanort split into Xehanort's Heartless and Xemnas, Xehanort's Heartless reflected MX's plans to control everything using darkness and went after Riku because he took memories from Terra and knew that Riku had darkness inside of him. Xemnas reflected both Terra and MX with his need for a heart and lust for power.
+Who do you think is Xehanort, by the way ?}}
-When Xehahort's Heartless and Xemnas were destroyed, Master Xehahort was finally gone, leaving Terra alone. As for the figure in the secret ending of BBS that spoke to Aqua, I believe that was what was left of Terra, regretting the pain he caused Sora.
+I'm not sure who you're talking to me or augment96. I haven't confused sora and ven and I simply don't see any indication that Braig participated in the fight. I mean you can tell Sephiroth is Badass and he's not kicking your ass. (well he is but...) Oh, and it's obvious who Xehanort is. Xehanort is Xehanort. Dun DUN DUUUUUNNNNN
-{{Randomnessity|isa=Did you read the stuff above? And it's spelled Xehanort not Xenahort.
-And please sign your posts.}}
+{{Xiggie|text=Well, personally, I think Xehanort is Terra but if Xigbar fought him, it's unlikely that Terra is Xehanort (See my [http://khxiggie.blogcentral.is/blog/2009/2/1/who-is-xehanort/ blog] about this, and please comment)}}
-== voice acter??? ==
+DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND: XEHANORT IS XEHANORT'S SECRET IDENTITY
+Seriously you guys are over-thinking this
-Who's Terra's voice acter???--[[User:Darkstar16|Darkstar16]] 13:19, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
+{{TNE|angrytext=I know '''I'm''' not. If you think Xehanort is Xehanort, then how is Master Xehanort related to Xehanort in any way ? Along with the clothes ?
-:Japanese voice actor is listed on the article. At the moment his English voice actor hasn't been announced, but we'll put it up once we have a confirmed source.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 13:57, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
-Just to let you know, from the recent Trailers fans has begun speculating the voice actors and they think Terra's VA is Christian Bale. they even made parrodies of Terra-Batman on Youtube [[User:17master|17master]] 14:52, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
+'''And for crying out loud, can you at least SIGN your posts so we all know we're not talking to a ghost ? Or the Nobody of Augment96 ?'''}}
-Bale hasn't even been confirmed to be working on the game. If you find a written source specifying the VA and his role, let us know.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}20:01, June 23, 2010 (UTC)
+{{Xiggie|text=Yeah, please sign your username! And we are just wandering who Xehaort '''might''' be because he shoved up in Hollow Bastion/Radient Garden after some "keyblade war" having lost his memory and called himself Xehanort. We're just saying that he could be Terra or MX apprentice or someone else (what do we know? :P)
-== although their only connection is that Terra chose Riku to wield the Keyblade sometime in the future.  ==
+Do you think that '''Master Xehanort''' is the Xehanort we know? common, look at their age, hairstyle and so forth... they don't even look similar.}}
-What? Where was this mentioned? I can't find it anywhere.[[User:Neverfate|Neverfate]] 01:25, January 31, 2010 (UTC)
+{{ShadowXemnas
+|time=Turn to Darkness!
-In a cutscene on Destiny Island. Riku told Terra about his dream in leaving the island, Terra then asked Riku to try and hold his keyblade while telling him to become a Keyblade Master so he can travel around the world freely. I think it should be "asking him to wield the Keyblade sometime in the future" but it's preety much the same [[User:17master|17master]] 14:21, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
+|text=Hold up...there seems to be a bit of a time gap in this Xigbar theory. Sure, in order to have said what he told Sora, he wold have had to either met those three or heard of them. All we currently know about Braig is that he was an apprentice under Ansem the Wise, and this happened while the Xehanort we all know was also Ansem's apprentice. It's possible that Xigbar got the info out of a book somewhere, but if he'd met them, he'd have to be pretty old by now...say...if he did meet them, than is it possible that Braig might be MX's apprentice?
+}}
-==Terra, MX and Eraqus may be alive==
-{{Xabryn|text=In the Reconnect Kingdom Hearts MX says that with time terra's heart would become a part of his heart, in KH Kairi's heart was in the same in Sora's body but the Keyblade of people's hearts free it as Xehanort's heartless is inside Riku Terra and Master Eraqus heart may be inside him too so maybe, with the keyblade of people's heart, Riku's heart can be separeted from the other hearts.}}
-== "The Radiant Garden" ==
-I don't quite get why there is an edit war on this. It's not like you'd say, "Let's go to the Washington DC!" You'd say, "Let's go to Washington DC!"[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:15, March 6, 2010 (UTC)
-== Terra's Keyblade ==
-The unique way that Terra summons his keyblade, all cuby and data-like, was that ever explained or even mentioned???  [[User:Black Tornado|Black Tornado]] 20:28, March 19, 2010 (UTC)Black Tornado
-watch youtube it's shown in almost every Terra vids [[User:17master|17master]] 14:24, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
-== Terra's summoning jutsu errmm keyblade summoning ==
-{{Serph21|time=13:48, April 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=is he the only one who summons his keyblade in a unique way? what about ven and aqua?}}
-{{Maggosh|text=Am I mistaken, or did Aqua summon her Keyblade in a burst of cherry blossoms (?) at one point? I think it was in the Jump Festa '10 trailer.}}
-Master Xehanort's Keyblade is summoned in a flash of dark energy. Vanitas's is summoned in blue fire with small red sparks of electricity. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 15:02, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
-@maggosh: really? i didn't notice that, might as well check again...hmm what about ven?[[User:Serph21|Serph21]] 15:18, April 9, 2010 (UTC)Serph21
-@Kaihedgie: didn't notice that also lol :D[[User:Serph21|Serph21]] 15:18, April 9, 2010 (UTC)Serph21
-so i watched it again...aqua summoned it with cherry blossoms confirmed. vanitas' confirmed also, ven's lame nothing special lolz. i doubt master xehanort's i think that the flash of dark energy is when he summoned the blue kingdom hearts coz i saw no keyblade after that...is it me or master eraqus also has a unique way of summoning his keyblade?[[User:Serph21|Serph21]] 15:29, April 9, 2010 (UTC)Serph21
-Refer to Xehanort's 'birth' as well as Master Xehanort giving Erauqs his scars [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 04:03, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
-Everyone has it own way to summon the keyblade only Sora and Ventus have the same way(I think)--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 22:13, April 14, 2010 (UTC)
-{{No.i|time=22:40, April 14, 2010 (UTC)|text=Actually, I think the way the keyblades are summoned are specific to the keyblade itself.}}
-in the gameplay yes ut when  the story appears the wayto summon the keyblade depends on the user--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 22:21, May 3, 2010 (UTC)
-== mimicry of the Past ==
-In 358/2 days, when Riku is testing Roxas, He repeats the same words that Terra says in Ven's flashback in Radiant Garden. [[User:Dragonraptyr|Dragonraptyr]] 08:42, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
-What words?...
-Well I don't remember it but i'll check it and if it is true it is probably because of Ansem's heart inside Riku--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 17:55, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
-Riku says that line a number of times, including before the fight with World of Chaos. It's a reoccurring line, but I wouldn't read too much into it.  --[[User:Neumannz|Neumannz]] 18:05, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
-Oh you mean "Come on Sora, i thought that you were stronger than that", Terra say it in Radiant Garden?--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 18:12, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
-Its just a minor thing for players to look at to help establish a connection. Nothing else about it. [[User:Naruto195|Naruto195]] 19:59, April 29, 2010 (UTC)
-Jutsu? Lame....23:18, July 12, 2010 (UTC).
-The hell was that supposed to mean?{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}23:31, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
-== Kingdom Hearts II and Final Mix ==
-So we're not to have the game templates listing that Terra, Aqua, and Ventus as well as Vanitas and Master Xehanort appeared in these games, and not just ''Birth by Sleep'', but we're allowed to have sections describing their roles in them? I understand the reasoning behind it, but this is very inconsistent, the way we're contradicting ourselves here. If we could please get to the bottom of this... I understand the secret endings aren't exactly "legit," but they are still character appearances, and why characters such as Roxas should be listed as appearing in ''Kingdom Hearts'' and its Final Mix, as well as Marluxia and "Ansem" appearing in ''Kingdom Hearts II'''s opening. I'm not particularly on any side in this situation, but this could become very confusing or even troublesome in the future. If Terra, Aqua, and Ventus have sections describing their roles in the "non-canon" appearances, then Master Xehanort and Vanitas should as well, and the game template should be added to remain consistent. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 11:55, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
-:Roxas isn't listed as appearing in KH1, and "Ansem" in the FMV isn't mentioned in his KHII section.
-:The story sections are not meant to catologue simple appearances or mentions. They are supposed to be the direct history of that character. They should only be broken up by game as a frame of reference. That's why the contents of Mickey's flashback with Xehanort should be mentioned in the pre-KH, not the KHII.
-:The secret videos, though, are uncanon, and are not fully compatible with the events of the series. As such, it could be mentioned in the trivia or a possible "Other appearances" that a character appeared in a secret video, but it should not be in the story section. Since it's an "other appearance", akin to appearing in the cards or maybe some commercial, it should not be represented in the game template, which are also a sort of "history of the series" thing. In short, if a character's story section does mention a secret video, remove it.
-:Then again, the game template thing is fuzzier. I personally think it wouldn't make sense to place them there when they don't rightly appear, and their article wouldn't be able to cover the info, but there is still an argument to be made for using the game templates to include secret video characters.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 21:56, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
-== Am I the only one? ==
-{{Naruto195|time=[[User:Naruto195|Naruto195]] 19:47, May 3, 2010 (UTC)|angry=\Am I the only one who thinks this page should be protected? People keep adding stuff from "Terra being able to see the future" to "Terra being Sora's dad" WHich makes no sense. }}
-{{Maggosh|text=Clairvoyance is understandable, but him being Sora's dad; I haven't seen anyone put that up lately.}}
-== "Story" section length ==
-The section for Terra's story information is incredibly long; in fact, I think that it is so long, that it will appear to run on redundantly and seem unappealing. I think that this could be slightly abridged, or be divided by subsections if necessary. My only issue with the latter solution is where to divide the section, since most of the information takes place during the game's ending and climax, while the majority of the plot is briefly mentioned. If anyone could provide their solutions or opinions on the suggested solutions, that would be class. Thanks! --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 04:03, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
-{{neumannz|time=07:19, May 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=I think we're trying not to use subsections anymore, but yes to abridging. I think there is plenty in the story section that can be summarized more succinctly than it is now.}}
-== Dissidia Hack ==
-I thought some of the Terra fans would be interested to know, someone has made a hack of Dissidia Final Fantasy to change Cloud's texture to Terra. Here's a vid. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Doreiku]] [[User talk:Drake Clawfang|Kuroofangu]] 20:11, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
-{{#widget:YouTube|id=qrhG6RdQTmQ}}
-{{-}}
-Oh, my god!!!!! --[[File:Ansem (with Dark Figure) (Sprite) KHCOM.png|50px]] [[User:Gr8champ|<font color="green">'''I'll'''</font>]][[User talk:Gr8champ|<font color="purple">'''Crush'''</font>]][[User:Gr8champ/Dissidia:Kingdom's_Fantasy|<font color="blue">'''You!'''</font>]] 20:55, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
-Epic. {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 22:30, June 12, 2010 (UTC)
-== Terra in Kingdom Hearts II? ==
-Shouldn't we also add the Kingdom Hearts II heart symbol on top of the page since he appeared as Xehanort or are we still discussing stuff like that? {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 20:54, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
-:Terra, as a person, no longer exists once Master Xehanort takes his body. Neither does Master Xehanort. There is instead a being with Terra's body and Master Xehanort's soul/heart (Xehanort), and a being with Terra's soul/heart (Lingering Sentiment). If we considered either of these character's appearances to be Terra, we'd also have to list Sora, Ventus, and Roxas as appearing whenever one of the three does, and Namine appearing every time Kairi does.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 21:02, June 18, 2010 (UTC)
-{{LA|Vtext=No, bad idea. Character Terra =/= Character Xehanort. Although they are technically the same person, they cannot be counted as the same chaarcter. Otherwise all of MX's appearances count for Xehanort's too.}}
-== Heart, Soul, Body division ==
-I think I can answer a question I've heard a lot. People have asked if Xemnas is Terra's Body and Soul why he is evil, seeing as MX Heart was the only evil part of Xehanort. My answer is that I think a Nobody's personality/memories/ect. are imprinted by the Heart. Seeing as Xehanort had both Terra's and MX Hearts in him they both left an imprint, however since MX's Heart had more dominance its influence was greater  --Evnyofdeath 19:41, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
-:Interesting theory, though I just think it simply comes down to it being '''Xehanort's Nobody''' with '''Terra's Appearance'''. --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 19:44, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
-== Name sharing ==
-Since it was done for Squall, shouldn't we note in the Trivia section that Terra is the only Kingdom Hearts character to share a name with a Final Fantasy character? [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 00:53, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
-:Well, that doesn't make sense, because Leon isn't named after Squall, Leon IS Squall. So, whatever Trivia that is under is false. Anyway, I won't stop you, but I can't guarantee it won't get deleted... --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 02:05, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
-:I think Kaihedgie is talking about the section in Leon's article that mentions his similarities to Leon from FFII. Terra simply sharing his name with Terra Branford isn't quite the same thing, since we know that this Terra's name was chosen to reflect his connection to Riku, and there's no connection to Terra Branford.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}02:14, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
-==New Trivia==
-I'm not sure if this is trivia material, but could someone who has access to the page add that Terra does not only hold a similar name meaning with Riku. Both are the older brother figure in their trio. Both felt a strong need to protect their friends and to become stronger, which led them down the path to darkness. Both were possessed by a seperate entity that was in need of a new host. [[file:Way to the Dawn KHII.png|20px]][[User:Chitalian8|Light]]? [[User talk:Chitalian8|Dark]]? More like the [[Template:Chitalian8|Dawn]]!! [[file:Wayward Wind KHBBS.png|20px]] 23:46, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
-Technicially, they were possessed by the same entity actually. --Evnyofdeath 05:32, September 15, 2010 (UTC)
-== Terra Voice Confirmed ==
-In an interview on [http://www.blogtalkradio.com/vampradio/2010/02/14/moonlight-radio-21210 blogtalkradio.com] in February 2010, Jason Dohring confirmed that he is working on a "dark" Disney video game that has sold a ton in Japan already.  Upon watching the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9JSMonOm7c English teaser trailer (at 3:34)], the voice of Terra and the one on the radio interview are the same. (I've watched all of Veronica Mars and am embarrassingly familiar with his voice...lol.) [[User:Usakoi|Usakoi]] 17:04, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
-It's not an official, written source, therefore it is technically unconfirmed. Jason Dohring never said "I'm playing Terra." {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}}
-:Seriously, like four days people. It's embarrassing to watch people jumping at poor sources when we'll have an absolutely reliable source so soon.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 17:10, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
-Confirmed [http://www.justin.tv/smileyx/b/269437983 here]], around 11:00. --[[User:Goldenpaw|Goldenpaw]]
-When is anyone gonna unlock the article so the voice actor thing can be updated? [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 22:02, September 4, 2010 (UTC)
-==Lingering Sentiment Armor KH2 version==
-I found a way to make Terra's armor have the same coloration as the LS from KH2FM. Set Red to 83, blue to 135 and green to 90.--Evnyofdeath 04:33, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
-==Minor Detail==
-{{CxT|time=16:42, September 27, 2010 (UTC)|text=so just curious but is it ever said why Terra's mark of mastery symbol is gold whereas everyone elses is silver???}}
-Perhaps it is a preference of choice. Maybe because he prefers the gold over the silver. hope this helped. Xander19
-Because silver looks better with white & blue, but not so much with Terra's brown & red clothing.[[User:Neo Bahamut|Neo Bahamut]] 00:59, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
-== Odd glitch ==
-I found somethin' a little peculiar while I was playin' BBS: If Terra uses Ultima Cannon while in D-Link mode, his Keyblade will gain a glow similar to Critical Impact and/or No Name and will stay even after you've reverted. The glow disappears if he either uses the Shotlock again while not in D-Link, go to pause menu, exit the area or goes into a Command Style. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 03:47, October 19, 2010 (UTC)
-{{Chihuahuaman|time=16:08, October 19, 2010 (UTC)|text=Or it might be an easter egg. Probably a glitch though.}}
-== Uh... Alive? ==
-What does it mean that he's alive in some shape or form? I know that he said "Sora" with Ventus and stuff, but... does that scene really exists? I mean, in the KH Series timeline. For example: Axel appeared along with Xion and Roxas who is supposed to be gone (Roxas and Xion are an exception, but Axel already fades out of existence). Can someone explain this to me? {{User:17master/Sign}}
-Think of it this way. The LS is what was still left of Terra after being possessed by MX, it's a result of his will to protect his friends and the emotions that go with that thus being his Sentiments. People theorize that since MX will return it will be as new Xehanort thus bringing back Terra's body and soul. All that's left is his heart and that is what's left to find.
-In other terms When Xehanort became a heartless and a nobody, one of the hearts become Ansem SoD and the body and soul became Xemnas. Looking at Ansem SoD's appearance it's clear that he was made by MX's heart, so what was left was Terra's Heart where could that have gone. or I mention the fact that ASoD went after Riku, a move which seemed to take influence from Terra, if Terra's heart was within the heartless than it can be assumed that it slipped into riku which would explain why riku could summon an additional keyblade for Kairi to use in Kingdom Hearts II. Also remember that Terra had light in his heart, if he was part of Ansem SoD then his darkness would have been purged with MX's influence leaving only the light.
-Heart possession is something different from taking in one heart for protection or healing, the heart possessing the other over shadows the other, thus the possessed heart is still there just beneath the other one. This is what happened to both Terra and Riku giving them a further connection thus the later theory is more probable I hope this helped.
-Xander19
-Also, where does the Guardian figure into the whole multi-heart fiasco?
-I know Terra's alive. I want an explanation on whether the scene is canon in the timeline or not {{User:17master/Sign}}
-master... the scene should be considered canon unless stated otherwise. The exceptions would be the secret endings of KH and KH2. and as for the person who didn't sign their post it has been suggested that the guardian is the embodiment of MX's darkness or heart as it were. I hoped this helped. Xander19
-That was me. I could have sworn I did, but oh well. The thing is, the Guardian is most definitely a Heartless, but if it were something like that, it would be an Unversed. Xehanort showed the power to summon Heartless before...but when you go inside Terranort's mind (somehow), Xehanort isn't there. That almost seems like Xehanort became a Heartless...before he became a Heartless. It's really quite confusing.[[User:Neo Bahamut|Neo Bahamut]] 00:59, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
-== Unlocking Hearts ==
-This has been bothering me since I finished the game. Master Xehanort says that Terra wasn't the one who unlocked Aurora's Heart. What's meant by this? Is it just a way of saying, "Terra was just holding the Keyblade, Maleficent is the one who actually did it" or was Xehanort or Vanitas hiding somewhere to unlock the Heart as part of their scheme? And is anyone else picturing them comically hiding on the roof or under the bed or something, waiting for the right moment to do it?[[User:Neo Bahamut|Neo Bahamut]] 04:41, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
-It actually was Maleficent who was doing it, she had him under her control rather than his own free will. -{{User:Erry/Sig}}11:36, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
-That's what I thought, but then why have Xehanort say such a peculiar line that far into the game?[[User:Neo Bahamut|Neo Bahamut]] 00:59, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
-== change ==
-can you change coded to Re:coded
-:No. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 19:48, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
-That not a way to answer the anon, I believe we're not changing it because if we change it in the characters that only appear in re:coded we'll have to separete the section of coded in re:coded in all of the pages--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 19:58, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
-== Section with the fighting style and whatnot ==
-Shouldn't you include his fighting stance the way you have on other articles? I'm sorry if there's a reason you haven't, I just noticed it wasn't there. --[[Special:Contributions/76.6.131.7|76.6.131.7]] 21:45, November 8, 2010 (UTC)
-==Command Styles==
-{{ANX219|time=23:22, December 20, 2010 (UTC)|normal=Can I upload a image of the RockBreaker Command Style?}}
-{{ANX219|time=23:51, December 20, 2010 (UTC)|normal=Can someone decode the moves that are in the images??? Thanks.
-http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad99/Xion4ever/TerraBladeCharge.jpg
-[[File:Terra_Critical_Impact.jpg|thumb]]
-[[File:Terra_Fatal_Mode.jpg|thumb]]
-http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad99/Xion4ever/Terra_Rock_Breaker_221.jpg
-http://i925.photobucket.com/albums/ad99/Xion4ever/Terra_Rock_Breaker.jpg
-<!--Terra Thunder Bolt-->
-Merci!}}
-{{Soxra|ienzo=I think the names of the images detail what the move is called. Blade Charge for the first, Critical Impact for the second, etc.|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=11:52pm, December 20, 2010 (UTC)}}}}
-{{ANX219|time=00:15, December 21, 2010 (UTC)|normal=Soxra, In the second image, Critical Impact, says the move is Surge.}}
-{{Lapidoth|mad=That's just part of the command style...they're not moves Per se...}}
-{{ANX219|time=01:35, December 21, 2010 (UTC)|normal=OHHHHHHHH...}}
-== Heart ==
-{{Sac|time=18:49, December 29, 2010 (UTC)|text =What happened to Terra's heart when Master Xehanort was reincarnated. Is it in Master Xehanort or is it free?}}
-Hypothetically speaking, as it was likely to be within The Heartless when new-Xehanort split into Ansem SoD and Xemnas. So it is probably in Riku(notice the similar fighting stance between him in KH2 and Terra) or it was purged with the rest of Ansem SoD but the chances of that seem slim as Terra's heart was never truly darkness and the kingdom hearts encoder explosion wiped the darkness from Riku's heart so the first theory is more probably. but then again for all we know it could have been sent into the lingering sentiment, it is far too early to even speculate where his heart is without any further evidence but at least someone is thinking about enough to put it up here so bravo to you for being the first to not mention terra as a whole for your question. and I will get back to you once 3D comes out. Xnader19(http://infamous.wikia.com/wiki/User:Xander19)
-{{Sac|time=10:42, December 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=Ok thanks!}}
+{{Xiggie|text=Could be, well, if Terra became Xehanort! then it could make sense. But I think that Braig isn't MXA}}
-Actually, think of it this way:
+Well, Xigbar looks like the oldest menber of the org as his hair is going gray as opposed to being naturly grey. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 22:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
-Master Xehanort's heart is housed within Terra's, which is what created Xehanort (the Apprentice) in the first place. Now, at the end of Blank Points in Re:Coded, Yen Sid said that Master Xehanort would very soon return. If his heart is returning to his original body, that means Terra's heart will do the same.
-(Also, on another note: Eraqus' heart is also within Terra's. If Xehanort is returning, Eraqus is returning as well. But of course, I can only speculate on these issues. 3D as well as 3 should confirm my own suspicions.) --Jacobmirror 16:55, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
-== Facial details ==
+I find this interesting on the whole Xehanort's Identity issue
+http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S1cIb2MUrM
+Ven?
-I could not have been the only one who hadn't noticed this, but Terra's face in the earliest scans and trailers looked significantly different than they do in the final version. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 17:26, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
+Why would Terra think sora is Xehanort?
-== I Noticed... ==
+Sora:"I may no longer be me? how could i be anyone else?"
-I noticed yesterday when I was playing KHI, when Ansem has no shirt on, his pants are exactly the same as Terra's Armor's legs. Just see through the metal and they're the same just thought I'd mention it.--<span>[[User:Axeken|<span style="color:green;">Ax</span>]][[User talk:Axeken|<span style="color:purple;">ek</span>]][[User:Axeken|<span style="color:red;">en</span>]]</span> [[File:Cloud KHII.png|65px]]  20:26, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
-== Darkness ==
+== Fate of Terra ==
-Shouldn't it be mentioned that the Darkness weakened Terra and was draining him?{{unsigned|79.245.253.161}}
+At the end of the video, Terra's eyes become like a yellowish gold, similar to the [[Heartless]] right? Well I was thinking, since the Heartless didn't exist in [[Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep]], could that mean that Terra could have became the VERY first Heartless? --[[User:SS INFINITY|SS INFINITY]] 20:18, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
-:And this comes from where? [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 06:06, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
-:Just look at the BBS Intro: When he fights Aqua he is all panting and struggling.
+:Nice, ive never heard that theory but im not sure that heartless didnt exsist i mean maybe the Emblem heartless didnt exsist but purebloods i always imagine have been around for as long as the darkness has.--[[User:Ximodnic|Ximodnic]] 21:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
-He even has to lean on his keyblade!
+{{Twoface13|Good theory. If you want to elaborate on it, click on Light.|}}
-And later when Maleficent tempers his darkness, he is also panting very much...{{unsigned|79.245.253.161}}
-:He only calls on the darkness at the beginning ''because'' he was losing. You're putting the cart before the horse.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 11:15, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
-But wasn't that how Xehanort took over his body?
+Yes, that's what I was thinking of. Xehanort was said to discover the Heartless, but as far as we know the Heartless could have existed prior to that. Or that's what I believe. --[[User:SS INFINITY|SS INFINITY]] 00:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
-By weakening  Terras heart with his own darkness?
-And in that article it isn't even stated why Terra was using his darkness!
-You should at least add that he was losing.{{unsigned|79.245.253.161}}
-Anonymous User 79.245.253.161, please remember to sign your posts.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 17:09, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
+== Main Image ==
-:Becoming vulnerable to darkness and being weak aren't quite the same thing. After all, Terra did defeat Master Xehanort in that battle, even if Xehanort planned it that way. Separate point, the CGI opening (and secret) movies aren't credible sources for canon.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 20:06, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
+{{HarpieSirenTalk|text=Okay, the quality of the image we were using was really bothering me... so I decided to make it match Aqua's page. I hope no one minds.}}
-So what do you think does the panting and almost falling to the ground in the intro mean?
+Hey, maybe your right (to the guy who left a theory about Terra being Xehanort, etc.. But you seem to dismiss your own theory because Terra would have known all these things, when it has been confirmed that Ansem the Wise found someone that had LOST THEIR MEMORY, and named him Xehanort as it was the only thing he could remember. This would make a lot of sense if Terra was Xehanort like you said.
-He is clearly losing and we know he almost used darkness in that fight.[[Special:Contributions/79.245.253.161|79.245.253.161]] 03:01, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
-::Exactly. As we've already explained, he explicitly used darkness ''because'' he was losing. The series is very clear that submitting to darkness makes you physically stronger, and the game itself beats you over the head with "Terra is submitting to darkness for power." It would be an idiot plot if the darkness was obviously making him weaker.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 07:27, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
-== and quips that he now "belongs to [Xehanort]", ==
+== Terra and Lingering Sentiment ==
-*Mickey: Seven guardians of light? Well, for Keyblade wielders, there's me and Riku and Sora. And my three missing friends, that's six. Then the seventh would be...
+http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/scenario-mysteries-interview/
-**Mickey, Riku, Sora, Terra, Ventus, Aqua
-*But Sora and another on your list belong to me now. And that puts you three guardians short.
-**Sora and one of Riku, Terra, Ventus, Aqua belong to Xehanort -- meaning that Mickey only has four out of seven guardians. The "now" is also pertinent.
-We know that Xehanort does not have Aqua or Riku, per AFP and 3D. It has to be either Terra or Ventus, and Xehanort is already known to have captured Terra. Ventus could arguably be said to "belong" to Xehanort as a package deal with Sora, but Xehanort says he only has one other on that list, not two.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:14, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
+http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVtfLp7nHdM&feature=related
-== Terra-Xehanort in 0.2 and the hands catching Aqua and Ven ==
+==Terra=Saix?==
+I dunno. Just kinda drawin' a comparison here.
-In that cutscene it's shown that dark hands caught Aqua and Ven, but we [https://youtu.be/_M4ECOytCn8?t=3m21s don't see any Darkside in that shadow] and the hands, more precisely the fingers, don't look like those of the [[:File:Darkside_KH.png|Darkside]], as the latter's fingers edges are spiky and the hands look thorny, but in this cutscene they don't look like any of that. <br>
+Their hairstyles are a bit similar. Both appear to transform when staring into Kingdom Hearts and of course: Terra - Master Xehanort and Saix - Xemnas [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 20:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
-But I think they could be Terra-Xehanort's Guardian's disguised in that shadow catching them, as we've seen Terra-Xehanort summoning a Guardian during his battle with Aqua, and we've seen another catching the protagonists (Ansem's catching Riku and Mickey in KH3D), this proves in fact the hands that caught Aqua and Ven are at least not a Darkside's but more like Xehanort's Guardian's. {{User:Braviaggron/Sig}} 14:33, 28 February 2017 (UTC)