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==Videos==
I've noticed how on some pages they put videos up for the xtra boss fights mainly on organization XIII and I was wondering if we could do the same for the other characters, not sure wether or not this is the right page for that [[User:Hazesky|Hazesky]] 01:07, 17 December 2007 (UTC) Hazesky

[[user: NeloAngelo|Nelo]]: go ahead, though I think the [[user: Scottch|Admin]] wants the "non-blury" ones.

I'll see if i can find one and if i do how do you add them to a site page[[User:Hazesky|Hazesky]]Hazesky

I found a link but how do I upload it [[User:Hazesky|Hazesky]] Hazesky

added video but I couldn't find one with cut scenes so it's just the fight for now [[User:Ejud10|Ejud10]] 02:51, 30 September 2008 (UTC) 

== pic ==

{{zackfair007|text=i wanted to use this to show the similarities of zack and terra on the actual page. Anyone say yes?}}

[[Image:TerravsZack.jpg]]

{{Drake|time=21:20, 14 September 2008 (UTC)|text=Not with that image, waaaaay to big. You just need a decently sized image of Zack, like the one of Reno on Axel's page.}}

make it smaller, like 250 px.


That's freakin amazing, if you did a better job, I'd mail you a cookie.

Well. I could say they're almost similar.
By the way, just a slight deviation, Drake : how'd you create that speech-bubble-like thing ? [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 01:58, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
:The ffwiki ,made it, and uh there are instructions http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Help:FAQ#Talk_Bubbles here

Thanks Zack Fair ! :D [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 07:19, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay. Something's not right. Whenever I want to create the template:TroisnyxetienneText, it doesn't seem to work. I created a template - a link was formed instead. Anything I should do? [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 07:46, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

== Terra, Then Xehanort, Then Ansem ==

I know people hate theories but I have a strong feeling I've got this right:

Terra was a keyblade master with Ven and Aqua under Master Xehanort. Then for some reason Master Xehanort and his apprentice go missing and Terra, Ven and Aqua set out to find them. During their search, (or possibley after since they apparently found them as seen in the Birth By Sleep secret ending) something happens to Ven and Aqua, and Terra falls to the Darkness and takes the name of his old master, Xehanort. Then Terra/Xehanort somehow finds his way to Ansem the Wise and becomes his apprentice along with Braig, Dilan, Even, and Ienzo. Then through the events of the Ansem Reports, he banishes Ansem the Wise and takes his old master's name once again. Willingly giving up his heart to the darkness, he becomes Ansem(Xehanort's Heartless) and Xemnas(Xehanort's Nobody). The Enigmatic Soldier in Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ could be many things, Xemnas in disguise, a ghost or spirit of some sort, or possibley just a sneak peek of what's to come in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep. This would also explain why Xemnas calls Aqua's armor and keyblade "friend" because Terra and Aqua where friends (or at least on good terms) in Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep...........So, what does everyone think?

{{Billylemmon|text=[[Xehanort]] has blonde hair. And also; sounds silly.}}

Maybe so. I've noticed that Xemnas, who was the optional boss for Kingdom Hearts Final Mix, was the main antagonist for Kingdom Hearts II. If this trend is followed by Tetsuya Nomura, then Terra, who is the optional boss for Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix+, could very well be the Xehanort we all come to know and love - um, hate - um, whatever. And, if this theory is followed - that each person has a heart, body and soul (when divided, would form a Heartless, Nobody and Unbirth) - then this may be the Unbirth of Terra (I'm not saying it is). Also, Xehanort had no prior memory of what he was, but it seems he appeared after a great Keyblade War ended.

On another note, the theory may not be true, on three accounts :

- Take a good look at the image of Xehanort in Ansem's Study in Radiant Garden. Yes, their hairstyles are similar, and it is rumoured that Terra's hair turns white while his eyes turn amber towards the end of Birth By Sleep, BUT... Terra has '''blue''' eyes while Xehanort has '''brown''' eyes. 

- Also, in the previous Kingdom Hearts, when we look at the reports written by the fake Ansem, i.e. Xehanort's Heartless, he is rather inquisitive about the Keyblade, saying that it is mysterious, also quoting that some people say it is used for the restoration of the worlds ; others say it was used for destruction, and he doesn't seem to know the nature of the Keyblade. Xehanort's Heartless comes to Destiny Islands in the brown robe at the beginning of Kingdom Hearts to tap Sora's power as the wielder of the Keyblade - '''had Terra actually been Xehanort, he wouldn't have done that as he knows the power of the Keyblade, he himself is a Keyblade master.''' (Or could it all be pretence ?) And according to Ansem's Secret Reports, a Nobody would usually take on the form of the soul. If the Terra we fought in Kingdom Hearts II were an Unbirth, methinks he should look like Xemnas - but Terra looks nothing like Xemnas. 

- Terra and Ven were '''friends'''. If Terra were Xehanort and Xemnas - the same person, he'd have known the true nature of Sora and Roxas, and in both cases, wouldn't seek to eliminate him (Xehanort wanted to kill Sora to extract Kairi's heart and open the final Keyhole ; Xemnas instructed Axel to eliminate Roxas if he didn't rejoin the Organization). After all, Sora, Roxas and Ven are connected. (A possible counter-argument to this is the fact that Ven told Terra, "You're my friend, right ? Erase me." This may have led Xehanort and Xemnas to do the same to Sora and Roxas.)
[[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 10:36, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

How could he have known the true nature of Sora and Roxas if he became Xehanort? Xehanort lost all his memories in Radiant Garden so he doesn't know them anymore [[User:Romeo$JoKer|Romeo$JoKer]] 23:12, 4 February 2009 (UTC)Romeo$Joker

{{TNE|text=Notice that I didn't dismiss the theory entirely. :) I mean, it's plausible and all also, because the logo he, Aqua and Ven wear resembles that of the Heartless logo, and when turned upside down, it resembles that of the Nobodies. Ansem the Wise found him in Radiant Garden when he had lost his memory - all he knew was a Keyblade War.

Well, if worse comes to worst we'd just as well wait for what Nomura has to say...... before (as some people say) we crack our heads on this.}}


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|text= My theory is very similar to yours, except for a few things. So here it goes, Terra, Ven, and Aqua find out Master Xehanort and his apprentice leave, so they go out and find him. In an epic showdown, Terra is separated from Aqua after she goes to help Ven, then he finds Master Xehanort and fights him, he beats him and his apprentice, but with his last bit of strength, Xehanort throws him into the realm of Nothingness. Terra, being in the realm of Nothingness, changes his appearance and loses his memories, and can only remember hating Xehanort for throwing him in there. Using some unknown power, he manages to get out of the realm and into Radiant Garden. Ansem finds him, and Terra keeps mumbeling Xehanort, so Ansem gives him that name. That is my theory.
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{{TNE|text=Sounds logical..... And another thing - what with that blue Kingdom Hearts in the sky ? Even Terra was looking up to it.}}

{{NitrousX|text=Master Xehanort is probably trying to harness its power. Then after Terra loses his memories and becomes Xehanort and then turns into a Heartless and Nobody, he keeps the goal of his Master and/or possesor. What do you think of that theory?}}

You forgot Aeleus in your theory, who later became Lexaeus.[[User:Winxfan1|Winxfan1]] 13:25, 5 June 2009 (UTC)Winxfan1

== Terra or Lingering Sentiment? ==

It has never been officially stated that Terra is the Lingering Sentiment.
So, all info on Terra's alleged KH2FM appearance has been moved into a new topic.

Which IS the new topic ? --[[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 02:06, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

It's [[The Lingering Sentiment]]

Thanks! I'll go check it out. [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 01:53, 19 January 2009 (UTC)


It's only speculation that Terra is the Lingering Sentiment, hence the information stating that Terra is the Lingering Sentiment should stay off this page until a confirmation. And seeing as that video depicts the Lingering Sentiment, and not Terra, it should also remain off of this page.


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==Rank==

I've just noticed his emblem is a different colour from Ven's and Aqua's meaning he may be a higher rank of keyblade warrior or whatever. It's also in a different place. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 23:22, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=Which emblem ? I haven't noticed. o.O}}

It's on his belt whilsts Ven's and Aqua's are on thier chests. It kinda looks like a heart. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 13:25, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=Oh. That one. I got it. Perchance he could be the leader of the trio.}}

{{Xiggie|text= Here's a good picture of the trio, Terra has got a golden symbol/emblem while Ven and Aqua have got silver}}

[[Image:Birth by Sleep group shot.jpg|thumb|left|400px]]






{{TNE|happytext=Sweet ! And I also notice that they've got this X-shaped thingy on their clothes. Think it represents something ?

Oh shoot, take a good look at Terra's hair, and then take a look at [[Xemnas]]' hair and [[Xehanort]]'s hair. Forget the eye colour, the way their hair is parted is coincidentally the same : there's a lot of hair at the centre. And the emblem which Terra, Ven '''AND''' Aqua are wearing somewhat resembles the Heartless symbol, albeit with no dark parts and no cross marks. Maybe the theory which I refuted '''is''' true after all. If Terra's hair '''did''' turn white towards the end of Birth By Sleep, then I guess this Xehanort saga just ain't gonna end.}}

I don't know, i still think it's MX's appretice even if it is too obvious. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 19:06, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=Na, MX's apprentice hasn't got anything obvious to him. He's covered, and shady, and not much is said about him...

Okay. So we have two contradicting theories. One is MX's apprentice being Xehanort. The other is Terra being Xehanort. I've already said much of the yes and no points for the second theory in this page.

Nomura himself said Xigbar was referring to '''Terra, Ven and Aqua''' when he said "You weren't half the hero the others were. Which means while he was Braig, or while he became a Nobody, he fought them off. Darn, could things get any more complicated ??}}


Is terra wearing a dress? o.0[[User:Master of Valor|(Sora) (Soa) R) (Sa) Rox) (S) Roxa) (Roxas)]] 09:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=Now that you mention it, I can't help laughing. It looks somewhat like a dress, though methinks it could be flare pants.

EDIT : He's wearing a [[wikipedia:hakama|hakama]].}}

looks like Samuri trousers to me. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 16:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

First of all troisnyxetienne (is that it?) how does "Your not half the hero the others were" indicate that he '''PARTICIPATED''' in the fight? Maybe he was an observer? I mean when you see the birth by sleep video with say, a giant pillar no pillar'''s''' of rock, a  a storm of keyblade'''s''', (you only use two in superform) people being frozen solid MX wieling a giant keyblade with a battleaxe head in ONE hand; not to mention the "Lingering Sentiment's"
Transformations and then look at Sora there is a noticible difference
Oh and i know who Xehanort is.

You know what would be funny and unexpected? Terra was the good guy and Ven and Aqua turned out to be the bad guys!!! I would love to see that. [[User:Augment96|Augment96]] 04:09, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|blahtext=You're getting out of point here. What you see is only one part of Birth By Sleep. For all you know, Braig would've had a confrontation with them long before Master Xehanort unleashed his fury on them. And by the way, that is '''Ven''' not Sora ! Remember that Birth By Sleep takes place some ten or more years before the first Kingdom Hearts.

Well, if Terra were to be the good guy and Ven and Aqua otherwise, yeah, that'd be unexpected. I mean, we don't know.

Who do you think is Xehanort, by the way ?}}

I'm not sure who you're talking to me or augment96. I haven't confused sora and ven and I simply don't see any indication that Braig participated in the fight. I mean you can tell Sephiroth is Badass and he's not kicking your ass. (well he is but...) Oh, and it's obvious who Xehanort is. Xehanort is Xehanort. Dun DUN DUUUUUNNNNN

{{Xiggie|text=Well, personally, I think Xehanort is Terra but if Xigbar fought him, it's unlikely that Terra is Xehanort (See my [http://khxiggie.blogcentral.is/blog/2009/2/1/who-is-xehanort/ blog] about this, and please comment)}}

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND: XEHANORT IS XEHANORT'S SECRET IDENTITY
Seriously you guys are over-thinking this

{{TNE|angrytext=I know '''I'm''' not. If you think Xehanort is Xehanort, then how is Master Xehanort related to Xehanort in any way ? Along with the clothes ?

'''And for crying out loud, can you at least SIGN your posts so we all know we're not talking to a ghost ? Or the Nobody of Augment96 ?'''}}

{{Xiggie|text=Yeah, please sign your username! And we are just wandering who Xehaort '''might''' be because he shoved up in Hollow Bastion/Radient Garden after some "keyblade war" having lost his memory and called himself Xehanort. We're just saying that he could be Terra or MX apprentice or someone else (what do we know? :P)

Do you think that '''Master Xehanort''' is the Xehanort we know? common, look at their age, hairstyle and so forth... they don't even look similar.}}

{{ShadowXemnas
|time=Turn to Darkness!
|text=Hold up...there seems to be a bit of a time gap in this Xigbar theory. Sure, in order to have said what he told Sora, he wold have had to either met those three or heard of them. All we currently know about Braig is that he was an apprentice under Ansem the Wise, and this happened while the Xehanort we all know was also Ansem's apprentice. It's possible that Xigbar got the info out of a book somewhere, but if he'd met them, he'd have to be pretty old by now...say...if he did meet them, than is it possible that Braig might be MX's apprentice?
}}

{{Xiggie|text=Could be, well, if Terra became Xehanort! then it could make sense. But I think that Braig isn't MXA}}

Well, Xigbar looks like the oldest menber of the org as his hair is going gray as opposed to being naturly grey. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 22:06, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

I find this interesting on the whole Xehanort's Identity issue
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S1cIb2MUrM
Ven?

Why would Terra think sora is Xehanort?

Sora:"I may no longer be me? how could i be anyone else?"

Isn't it confirmed by Nomura that xicbar saw them?Also in one of the new cutscenes in kh2 fm xigbar says that after the warriors weilding keyblades vanished a man who had lost his memory appeared meaning Xeanort.--[[Special:Contributions/74.210.24.180|74.210.24.180]] 05:06, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

== Fate of Terra ==

At the end of the video, Terra's eyes become like a yellowish gold, similar to the [[Heartless]] right? Well I was thinking, since the Heartless didn't exist in [[Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep]], could that mean that Terra could have became the VERY first Heartless? --[[User:SS INFINITY|SS INFINITY]] 20:18, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

:Nice, ive never heard that theory but im not sure that heartless didnt exsist i mean maybe the Emblem heartless didnt exsist but purebloods i always imagine have been around for as long as the darkness has.--[[User:Ximodnic|Ximodnic]] 21:55, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
{{Twoface13|Good theory. If you want to elaborate on it, click on Light.|}}

Yes, that's what I was thinking of. Xehanort was said to discover the Heartless, but as far as we know the Heartless could have existed prior to that. Or that's what I believe. --[[User:SS INFINITY|SS INFINITY]] 00:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Actually, if you know about darkness, you know that when darkness stains a persons heart, it can turn there skin tan, and there eyes a golden amber color. Your heart becomes stained by using darkness frequently, this stain is not easily removed, and will remain even after someone stops using darkness. I think that Terra's eyes were becoming amber because he was about to use his darkness to defeat Xehanort.
Also, there were no heartless in the Realm of Light prior to the experiments done by Xehanort. There was darkness in human hearts, but none to the point of them becoming heartless themselves. This is stated by Nomura, hence why the only enemies in Birth by Sleep are the Unversed. Terra didn't become the first heartless, because heartless always existed in the Realm of Darkness. However, I think that Terra becomes the Xehanort that was Ansems apprentice. This would explain his amber eyes, his tan skin, the same hair style. Also, his hair could have been turned white due to a traumatic experience in the final battle against Master Xehanort. Perhaps his hair turning white could be another effect of a dark stain on the heart? --[[User:Ookami zetsumei|Ookami zetsumei]] 4:52, 28 August 2009 (UTC)


Just a theory, but considering the parallels between Sora/Roxas/Ven, and Kairi and Aqua's physical resemblance to each other, is it possible that Terra is a reprizentation of Riku? Besides the similar meaning of thier names, Terra has been suspected to "fall into darkness", and so did Riku at the beginning of KH1. And Terra's goals are questionable as are his methods, and so were Riku's initial ideas in KH1. Its a long shot, but maybe. [[Special:Contributions/67.142.161.32|67.142.161.32]] 01:20, September 21, 2009 (UTC)

== Main Image ==

{{HarpieSirenTalk|text=Okay, the quality of the image we were using was really bothering me... so I decided to make it match Aqua's page. I hope no one minds.}}

Hey, maybe your right (to the guy who left a theory about Terra being Xehanort, etc.. But you seem to dismiss your own theory because Terra would have known all these things, when it has been confirmed that Ansem the Wise found someone that had LOST THEIR MEMORY, and named him Xehanort as it was the only thing he could remember. This would make a lot of sense if Terra was Xehanort like you said.

== Terra and Lingering Sentiment ==

http://www.kingdomhearts3.net/scenario-mysteries-interview/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVtfLp7nHdM&feature=related

Why would terra think sora is Xehanort?He's not a [[Xehanort|vaguely bishounen Mad scientist]] '''or''' a [[Master Xehanort|Bald old keyblade master]].

==Terra=Saix?==
I dunno. Just kinda drawin' a comparison here.

Their hairstyles are a bit similar. Both appear to transform when staring into Kingdom Hearts and of course: Terra - Master Xehanort and Saix - Xemnas [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 20:01, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think that is possible since saix has an i in his name and terra doesn't.--[[Special:Contributions/74.210.24.180|74.210.24.180]] 21:01, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
:I think [[Xemnas]] proves that means almost nothing. (I personally don't think this theory holds much weight; just being devil's advocate here...)—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 00:17, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Now when i first saw an image of Terra i to thought of Saix but i think thats just me love for Saix seeping in, For one Saix knew Axel and joined the Organisation later. If Terra was Saix chances are he would have joined when Xemnas created it. As much as id love to see Saix as one of the most mysterious characters i feel it isnt him.[[User:Ximodnic|Ximodnic]] 00:38, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

== Eye colour ==

When terra's eyes change they turn yellow like master xnorts but are different compared to xemnas/xnorts heartless and ansem the wise which has more of a orange glow to them.--[[Special:Contributions/74.210.24.180|74.210.24.180]] 05:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)

== terra and xemnas ==

ok so is it possible that xemnas and terra could be linked because of their "friend"? i was just watching a video and it talked about xemnas tlking to aquas armor and called it his friend and how terra was abut to battle MX when he said "I have a friend". so just thought id put it out there.

I have friends too. :P It's possible, I mean if Terra does indeed become the Xehanort we love to hate, then I'm sure it's possible that somewhere down the line as Xemnas he remembers Aqua. Or remembers a little, but not a lot. Like her name, it could be taken that he knows her so well that it's polite to call her friend, or maybe he doesn't remember. Or maybe Terra's talking about Ven, who knows? [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 19:03, October 25, 2009 (UTC)

== Terra ≠ the Lingering Sentiment: The Ultimate Proof ==
As stated in the Ultimania, when asked about Birth by Sleep, Nomura said and I quote:

"This game is set the farthest in the past of any other, so it connects to Kingdom Hearts, but the main characters are three that haven’t appeared in the other games." 

This is even on the BbS page for goodness sake. So there you have it. Please make the appropriate modifications. Kthnxbai!

== Inaccurate Info ==

The info under the plot seems completely made-up, and the same goes for Ven and Aqua too. It should be generalized much more.
{{EO|time=18:31, September 27, 2009 (UTC)|text=What do you mean? There's nothing wrong with it. If you meant the story, this is all true fact.}}

He's probably refering to the fact that the plot section is saying that they visited the worlds in a certian order without actual prove, actually it would be better to just erase everything and leave a brief summary of the overall story until the game comes out in January--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 01:17, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

== Terra ==

to the guy who said that Nomura stated that the main characters of Birth by Sleep are not in the other games what about Terra in Final Mix?
:That means in the strictest sense, the Lingering Sentiment isn't Terra. He could be some kind of manifestation of his regret or anger or something else, but he's not technically Terra.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 19:22, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Nomura said that in the KHII Ultimania which came out before KHII Final Mix--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 01:20, October 8, 2009 (UTC)