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| On another note regarding KH3, Xion appears to have a symbol now - a 3-pronged mask/crown, which can be seen on the top of her light pillars during her KH3 data battle. This symbol is also visible on the face of her final form in Days. Does anyone have a clean image of this symbol? And, what should we call it? --[[User:Boblers|Boblers]] ([[User talk:Boblers|talk]]) 09:06, 7 May 2022 (UTC) | | On another note regarding KH3, Xion appears to have a symbol now - a 3-pronged mask/crown, which can be seen on the top of her light pillars during her KH3 data battle. This symbol is also visible on the face of her final form in Days. Does anyone have a clean image of this symbol? And, what should we call it? --[[User:Boblers|Boblers]] ([[User talk:Boblers|talk]]) 09:06, 7 May 2022 (UTC) |
| :The original source of it being called テラたちのマーク (Terra and Friends' Mark) is the BBS Ultimania. They compare it to the Nobody symbol to show the similarities, so it could be seen as more of a description than a name, like "the mark Terra and his friends use". Also, since KH3 calls it "Eraqus", and is more recent, we should call it that, but we should probably mention "Terra's Mark" as well (though I'm not sure it's actually called that in English?). {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 13:38, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
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| ::If I remember correctly, the only Ultimania that's in English is the Memorial Ultimania, so BBS Ultimania is still only in Japanese. I don't know what's in Memorial, but unless the mark is mentioned in there, "Terra's Mark" would not have an English name I think? --[[User:Boblers|Boblers]] ([[User talk:Boblers|talk]]) 22:36, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
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| :This is irrelevant for now but since it goes back to the beginnings of keyblade society, neither is probably its "proper name"; they may give it a real one in Missing Link or something. [[User:ChielArael|ChielArael]] ([[User talk:ChielArael|talk]]) 08:05, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
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| == Nobody emblem contradiction ==
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| So, it's been established that the Nobody emblem is based on Terra's Mark / Eraqus as remembered by Xemnas, since Terra had strong memories of the symbol. But it appears on [[:File:Keyblade Armor (Xehanort) KHDR.png|Xehanort's Keyblade Armor]] that he wore over 60 years prior. I think this is a minor oversight, rather than intentional lore: the most likely explanation is that they included the emblem on Xemnas's armored form because he's a Nobody, but when it came time to make Xehanort's armor for ''Dark Road'', they used the same design as that armor (and No Heart) without considering the implications of the symbol. Still, an interesting little contradiction. —[[User:Aid1043|Aid1043]] ([[User talk:Aid1043|talk]]) 04:04, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
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| :I don't think it's Dark Road's oversight, considering that No Heart (as well as Eraqus' armor) were included in the Final Mix of the very same game that Nomura made this claim in the Ultimania of. Considering that they don't use armor in the present day and that both armor designs were used in Dark Road, I suspect they were always supposed to represent Xehanort and Eraqus when they were younger. It's a case of Nomura proving his own statements wrong almost immediately. It wouldn't be the first time; Nomura also said nobodies don't age, despite Namine clearly aging from CoM to II (others were shown to age later). Personally I think we can infer it must predate Xemnas, but who knows if they'll ever talk about it or not. [[User:ChielArael|ChielArael]] ([[User talk:ChielArael|talk]]) 08:03, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
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