Editing Talk:Sora

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uh...okay now. I just added major points in the article, and I need help as well. So...yeah.

==Age==
I know this is kinda odd. but the subject of sora, kairi, and riku's ages in kh2 is kinda up in the air. It is never officially stated anywhere in KH2 exactly how old they are. but i would say that Sora and Kairi are 16 and Riku is 17. i know they were 2 years younger in KH1 but really. look at them. no one matures that much in a single year. especially sora. compare him to from both games. the level of maturity is so drastically different and its absurd to say he got all that in one year, the voice change, growth spurt and mental maturity. could people stop saying that they are 15 and 16 in KH2. i know it takes place a year after Chain of memories, but really people.
Sora is 14 in KHI and KHCOM also he's 15 in KHII I read it in KH english websites. Cococrash11

the reason you think he sounds so different is because the age of sora and the age of his voice actor are slightly diproportional.--[[User:Foutlet|Foutlet]] 02:46, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

--[[User:SquareEnixRocks|SquareEnixRocks]] 02:20, January 11, 2010 (UTC){{SER|time=02:20, January 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=I would just say that Sora and Kairi are 15 and Riku's 16, I wouldn't go around changing ages. Wait 'till Kingdom Hearts III to see if their ages change.}}

In the manual that comes with the game there ages are listed as 15 for Sora and Kairi and 16 for Riku.

== abilities==

sorry to bother who ever is reading this but I just have one thing I don't understand

I'm not comlpaining so sorry if it sounds this way. I don't understand why no one has added a list of soras abilities under the section "abilities"

I know the people who work on this site got a lot to do so I pasted it at the bottom of the page(really sorry it takes up so much room) so if the members deside they want to add it its all here and a simple copy and past away (that should save some time)

Luis

:[[Kingdom_Hearts_Abilities#Abilities]], this time, try actually reading it. Other than that, you can see same stuff, but in a different setup, [[Sora/Abilities|here]]. --[[User:Hecko X|Hecko X]] 14:46, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


ok thanks sorry to bother you

Luis

Question: is it true that sora can, at one point, control three keyblades. *note: saw it in his fight with roxes in KH2:final mix, i think
djk9

{{ZexionFan321|time=17:21, September 4, 2010 (UTC)|marluxia=Yes it's true. Also when I get KH2 Final Mix + I will see if he can wield 4 at the same time using Master Form.}}

== Cleaning Up ==

This article could use some cleaning up.--[[User:Dreyfus2006|Dreyfus]] 07:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
:Yeah, plus originality - it's pasted form Wikipedia. '''''[[User:Scottch|<font color=#00cccc>Scott</font>]][[User talk:Scottch|<font color=#ff9900>ch</font>]]''''' 06:32, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

==About Riku and the Keyblade==
I removed the part about Riku being the "intended weilder" from this article and "Keyblade" due to lack of sufficient evidence. Its a theory, but its never stated in the game and therefore I dont think it should be said here.

At KHvids.com...

http://www.kh-vids.net/index.php?page=khcutv3

I recently watched the Destiny Islands scenes and the Hollow Bastion scenes, and none of them support the fact that Riku was the original intended owner.

Also, to me, the fact that The Awakening occurred at the very start of the game means that Sora would have had to be the keyblade wielder all alone. If anyone can support the data that I took out, they are welcome to prove me wrong and put it back in. However, until then, I'm removing it.
Thanks.
--[[User:Zephyrus11|Zephyrus11]] 02:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

:::Answered my own question by finding this

http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/42/41/

Though my point about The Awakening still leaves me confused...

--[[User:Zephyrus11|Zephyrus11]] 05:02, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

{{TNE|blahtext=Who said Riku being the intended wielder of the Keyblade was never mentioned in-game ? Didn't you take a look at Sora's story or even Riku's journal entry right after defeating Dark Riku for the first time in Hollow Bastion ? It did explicitly say that Riku was supposed to be the original master of the Keyblade, but having chosen darkness over light, the Keyblade chose Sora instead. Then again, the only mention it gets is in Jiminy's Journal in KH1. That's all.}}

== Nobody-ness? ==

Hey, has anyone else noticed this?
We all know that Sora lost his heart by releasing it for Kairi, and that it created Roxas, blah blah blah. But has anyone noticed that since he doesn't have a heart (having given it back to Kairi), wouldn't that make ''him'' a ''nobody'', too?! [[User:HarukaHeart13|HarukaHeart13]] 00:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
   
     he lost his heart and kiaris when he stabbed himself but when he became human again his heart returned to him the heart that roxas possesses is ventus's heart so they all posses a heart i guess you could say roxas didn't belong in the orginization XIII because he himself possessed a heart 
hope this helped you understand there wasnt any loop hole or exeptions thats what happened oh and he didnt intentional release his heart kiaris heart was inside him so so fully intended to release her heart my belief on the matter is he didnt know 100% that eather heart would be released but he was willing to take that risk for kiari 

:He basically went through a loophole that let him give his heart to Kairi while still keeping it for himself. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 01:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
:Well, uh...that's kinda confusing. [[User:HarukaHeart13|HarukaHeart13]] 02:58, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
::Actually...He didn't give his heart to Kairi, Kairi's heart was inside his (yes it's confusing, but it's Square-Enix). Therefore, he unlocked ''his'' heart to free hers, turning him into a heartless. Kairi helped Sora see the "light" and put his heart back in order. It wasn't really explaned, but that's what I got out of it.
:''[[User:Akamoron|Akamoron]]'' 21:05, June 22 2008
Alright, here's as clear as I'm going to see it. In the beginning of the game, as Destiny Islands was getting destroyed, do you remember that cutscene in the Secret Place, where Sora saw an illusion of Kairi come flying at him, then suddenly disappear just as he was about to catch her? From what I can see, there is evidence that it was at that point that Sora actually started housing Kairi's heart. When Sora stabbed himself with the dark Keyblade made out of the other Princesses' hearts, he released Kairi's heart from his own being, returning it to its original body, and lost his own heart in the process, which became the Shadow Heartless you temporarily play as. However, because of the strong connection made between their hearts, both when their hearts were separate from each other and when they were both housed inside Sora, Kairi managed to call his heart out of the darkness and bring him back to normal form. As to how he got a body back, now that's for your own speculation, especially since Roxas and Namine were supposed to be created from his body after the sacrifice. If it gets any clearer than that, someone ''please'' let me know. [[User:Keyblader|Keyblader]] 02:16, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

I believe it says this in the Sora's Heartless page, but technically Sora was a Heartless after that, and not a Nobody or Complete Being. Because his "shell" or Body and Soul had already become Roxas when Kairi's Light fetched his Heart, his Heartless body simply transformed into a human shape(or at least, thats what I think). So Until he remerged with Roxas in the beginning of KH2, Sora was a Heartless with a Heart.  --Evnyofdeath 06:05, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

== Sora's height ==

You should put down the characters height like sora is around 5'2 or 5'3 so that would make kairi 5'1 or 5'2


No, we shouldent unless some official material states their height, otherwise it's just speculation which dosent belong on a Wiki.[[User:Brago-77|Brago-77]] 19:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


ok sorry to bother you

== Concept ==

i found a spanish wiki that had a concept section for Sora so i thoguht it made sense that we put one up.


It is kind of odd that we don't have one, considering how much information there is on the subject... I mean, there's concept art sketches all over the place back from when Nomura was still thinking about making him this... wierd... lion... thing. On that note, we should probably mention the change his hair color undergoes from KH1 to KH2, given the Roxas article mentions the inverse observation.

==Image==
[[File:Sora (KHII) (Art).png|250px]]

*Would anyone object to having this be the image in the infobox? [[User:Dr.Kermit|<span style="color: #00C;">'''Dr.Kermit'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dr.Kermit|<span style="color: #93C;">'''The Doctor is in'''</span>]])</sup> 21:36, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

== Biggest piece of evidence regarding the sora/kairi relationship ==

Quote: "The biggest evidence, however, was in chain of memories, when Namine admits that she was never Sora's friend, and he sadly says: "we were never anything... more than that either."

Im just curious as to how this would be the 'biggest' evidence that we have regarding sora's relationship status with kairi. And probably the main reason why I ask this is most likely because I cannot clearly translate what Sora has stated to Namine regarding her. Could this piece of evidence suggest that:

A. Sora states that they were more than just friends.

B. Sora states that, although he is not a friend of Namine, he is more than a friend to Kairi?

C. All of the above, except A, B & C.

But all I ask is a clarification of what Sora means about kairi in this quote.--[[User:Pkthis|Pkthis]] 02:50, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
:The entire section is speculative and should probably be deleted or at the very least rewritten. --[[User:Hecko X|Hecko X]] 12:31, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

Actually, there is a point to all of that in the article. Sora says, in a sad and confused sort of tone, that they were never anything more than friends (they were never friends to begin with, but you get my point) after going through the vast majority of the castle having his memory altered to think that he was trying to save his childhood friend. Since Namine had used her powers to put her memory in place of Kairi's, this would indicate that he had feelings toward Kairi as being more than just a friend. Considering that, it could be the biggest piece of evidence towards their relationship purely because of the fact that Sora openly admitted his feelings, if indirectly, towards the original girl whom he thought was his childhood friend, aka Kairi. [[User:Keyblader|Keyblader]] 01:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

== Voice  ==

{{Sora89|text=May i add the German voice actors for Sora and all the other ones? I know this is an English wikia, but we do have the Japanese voices, too^^ Rather asking before i edit all these pages and some1 deletes them afterwards xD}}

In my opinion, no. The english voice is included because this is an english wikia, the japanese is included because the Kingdom Hearts series is originally from Japan. If the german voice is added, then the french and spanish voices would want to be added and that will make it look sloppy. Sorry. [[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]]

{{Sora89|text=Ya true :) Prolly better to leave it as it is then.}}

{{TNE|happytext=Had I added Donald Reignoux (my most favourite voiceover ever !), I think the Xehanort Bot would've come after me.}}

==358/2 days==

Can i see some proof? I really want to know if he's in or not.

Proof as in Images or video. --Zack fair 007 03:53, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEDZH1qy6oc

on that note we should do a limit break section on the other 358 playables(Sora=ragnorak)
so that means we need the limits for Riku (seems to be dark aura) mickey (don't know) donald (don't know) and goofy (don't know)

here we go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bgQ7coU2Og

Hey, I beat 358/2 Days but I don't see any item called Return of the king or Soul of Sora in the Moogle Shop. So do you have to beat it on a certain difficulty? If so then could someone add it to the 358/2 Days section of the article? Thanks.

{{TNE|attntext=The 358/2 Days section is poorly written (good facts, but it's all crammed into one paragraph). And I've no idea how to split it up. Guys, please help... thank you.}}

in order for mickey you need to unlock every mission.for sora you need to get every item, complete every objective and complete every mission absolutely perfectly (not exactly but thats the best way i can explain it)
:sora's limit break is "ragnarok".[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:24, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

{{KKD|time=05:49, January 4, 2010 (UTC)|text= Donald's limit break is Fantasia, Goofy's is Teamwork, Mickey's is pearl or something.}}

== Picture ==

{{OotL|text=This might sound childish buuut....I really don't like the main picture for [[Sora]] lol, I just think its not that great and we could pick a better one for it, I didn't want to change the picture without permission so I was wondering if anyone would mind?}}

Azul said i could change the picture so I have ^^


==What does that mean??==

At the end of the kingdom hearts II summary or whatever for sora, it says that "Sora saw that Kairi drew the other half of a paopu fruit. He smiles, mimicking Kairi's actions a year ago."
What does it mean by "mimicking Kairi's actions from a year ago. Does it mean the way he walked in the cave was the same as kairi a year ago??or did kairi do something?? (i think i just figured it out but im not sure....) [[User:Ninabean822]]
:Watch the endings of both games, and it will make more sense. [[User:Xeno the Hedgehog|Xeno the Hedgehog]] 05:42, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

o..now i get it. thnx^^-ninabean

== Sora's hair color ==

Sora's hair color changed when he turned 15, some people say it was because Roxas was born. Is tht true? [[User:Ninabean822]]

Not really addressed in the series, but I suppose it's possible. Of cousre, it's also possible his hair just lightened naturally.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 15:52, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I read somewhere that in game after Sora returns to human form his hair lightens slightly.  --Evnyofdeath 05:59, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

== A separate Sora page ==

Does anyone think we should create a page for Virtual Sora? Because technically, he isn't really Sora, but just a replica made of data to solve a puzzle.

Just a suggestion. I know it will cause controversy, but still.

[[User:Charmed-Jay]] (2009-August-13)
{{EO|time=14:30, 13 August 2009 (UTC)|talktext=I believe not. While you bring up a point, the Sora from Coded is not really worthy of an article and has been merged onto the Sora page, as far as I believe...should you do this, the article would either be deleted, or edited into what we have now...}}

That was precisely why I asked first. I knew what would befall that page if it were created.

[[User:Charmed-Jay]], 2009-August-13

{{Kool Beans|text=Data Sora and Regular Sora are two different beings. If we used this logic on every article, then we should merge all Nobody pages withe their original being pages}}

== Sora heartless? ==

It's said in KH that someone with a strong will makes a stronger heartless and a nobody.
Since Sora made a unique nobody, we must assume he has a strong will, which would also mean he should have Become a stronger heartless Than a shadow when he released his heart.
Why didn't he? (on an unrelated note, where would the heartlesses for the rest of the organization be?)
Torrent299 16:24, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
:You get a strong Heartless if your heart is very dark. Willpower only makes the Nobody. Sora's will was strong enough to make a Nobody, but he's not dark enough to make a powerful Heartless; he's barely dark enough to make a Shadow.
:Also, apparently his will isn't ''that'' strong, since he was rapidly losing his memories and only regained those and human form because of Kairi.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 18:21, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
The memories were going to become part of Roxas. Would have to if Kairi hadn't restored Sora.

== Canonical Strength ==

Playing through 358/2 Days made me question this, and most of the amazing accomplishments we make through the games. In Olympus coliseum, during a recon mission, Sora is listed as winning the Pegasus cup, but Hercules is instead listed as winning the Hercules cup. This means that in canon, Sora's beating of Hercules didnt actually happen. It calls into question whether Sora beating other stronger 'optional' enemies actually happened in Canon, such as Sephiroth

Just a thought.

[[Special:Contributions/76.184.142.252|76.184.142.252]] 03:51, October 26, 2009 (UTC)

:I was wondering about that, too. I don't think any of the optional boss fights at Olympus Coliseum are canon, to be honest. In KHII, Sora didn't recognize Sephiroth at all, did he? Anyway, I think that Sora's fight with Sephiroth in Radiant Garden in KHII is completely canon, though.

(Wow, I failed at that post. Too high and I didn't even sign it. XD)

[[User:SavageLarxene011|SavageLarxene011]] 14:00, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

::Consider that Sora routinely performs acts of superhuman strength and skill, such as chopping through giant objects and slaying giant monsters that threaten the entire KH universe. I wouldn't worry too much about his power in canon; he's definitely not a slouch. [[User:Magugag|Magugag]] 07:51, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
:::There could've been another Hercules Cup that Hercules won while Sora was sleeping and not another Pegasus Cup.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 10:01, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

Technically Wasn't Sephiroth only in the English version of KH1 not the japanese one?--[[User:Kool Beans|Kool Beans]] 15:35, February 10, 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, Sephiroth was the ''only'' secrect boss in the Japanese version of KH1, in the english and FM versions, they added others.  --Evnyofdeath 05:57, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

== Age Gap? ==

{{LOMI|Goji=OK, I was looking at the main picture of Sora from KHII, and then compared with the first pic from KHI: there seems to either a) be a seeming growth of I'd say maybe 4 (teen) years, or b) the original game had a much more chibi-style Sora. I know there was a year between the games, but I have to ask, is this change in looks more of a point of character growth than physical growth?}}

== Master? ==

Would Sora be considered a Keyblade Master? He certainly seems strong enough!

I don't intend to sound rude, but did you pay attention to what he was called throughout the games? Keyblade Master, was it not?--{{User:PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart/sig}} 00:29, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Whoops, my bad. Haven't played KH or KH2 in a while!

well,technically he isn't the keyblade master,look at king mickey,or sometimes riku,they can wield a keyblade and i thing the king is more of a master-Iownedsephorothatlvl5

{{Shixoh|time=02:37, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text= Personally I think he is working on becoming one. I'm not going to spoil BbS for anyone and tell you exactly why I think that, but he is called a Keyblade Master. Still, since Riku was the one that was meant to have the keyblade I would be more likely to call Riku a master than Sora. That's just my opinion though.}}


I had always though of Keyblade Master as simply one who weilds it, because it's such a unique and speical weapon. But because BbS has a qualification exam, it seems kinda like the levels of Martial arts. Sora trained with a wooden sword since he was 4 so his fighting skills were at very decent, And with his accomplisments yea I think it's right to give him the title of Keyblade Master. [[User:Hyperwire 2.0|Hyperwre_2.0]] 08:32, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

{{Kool Beans|text=He should be considered a Keyblade Master since he defeated Xehanort's Heartless, and that is no small feat}}

Isn't Final Form enough proof Sora is a Keyblade Master?– [[User:FatalMercy|FatalMercy]] 03:24, September 1, 2010 (UTC)FatalMercy

== a year later??  ==

{{Template:Ninabean|time=05:49, January 11, 2010 (UTC)|text= you know where it says "a year later" then tells what happens at the secret ending of BBS? Why does it say a year later when it pretty much happens after Sora, Riku and Kairi read the message?}}

{{Shixoh|time=06:53, January 11, 2010 (UTC)|what=You know I was wondering that myself. I think what it is talking about is a year after KH:CoM since Aqua is seen talking to Ansem the Wise who died in KHII before the "a year later" part and it show parts of KH358/2 Days.}}

One: Obviously Ansem wasn't killed, he was displaced to the realm of darkness; it's a plot point being revealed, not a mistake. Two: Showing Namine, Axel, Roxas, Xion, Terra, and Ven was obviously symbolic; there's no way it ''physically'' happened. Three: It's perfectly possible the letter told Sora to stick around the Islands for a year. We didn't see what the letter said, did we?—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 03:40, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

Does anyone notice how he has to ask Kairi's permission to save the world?yeah he's whipped.[[Special:Contributions/70.144.122.234|70.144.122.234]] 14:03, January 26, 2010 (UTC)
{{Randomnessity|isa=Uh.... Ok. What does that have to do with the topic here?}}

==Secret Ending==
I'm against putting bbs secret ending info in articles until a better translation for the game is out. Nomura himself said that the secret just wouldn't make sense unless you'd seen the rest of the game.After The ending's for Terra's scenario,Ven's scenario,Aqua's scenario and the Last scenario are subbed, from destiny islands onwards,sure but any earlier seems like jumping the gun.[[Special:Contributions/71.54.128.73|71.54.128.73]] 02:20, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

==Secret Endings==
Could anyone clarify why the secret endings from the first two games made it into the Story section? They aren't canonical and certainly aren't part of the character's fictional biography.

[[User:Samoth|Samoth]] 20:59, January 13, 2010 (UTC)

YES. 
THEY.
ARE.

KH1 secret ending became the final boss of Days. KH2 secret ending became the last scenario for both Ven and Terra, and second to last scenario for Aqua in BBS.  --Evnyofdeath 05:54, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

==New Info (BBS Spoilers)==

-- Then, when Ven’s heart was fractured, someone completed his heart with their own. Was this Sora’s heart?

Nomura: Yes. That was when Sora was born into the world. from [http://forums.khinsider.com/spoilers/145648-new-interview-rebirth-wings-need-translation-4.html#post4873236 KHInsider][[User:Xoaks|Xoaks]] 04:21, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
:It's kind of funny because what Nomura said made no sense. Sora was already born, he wasn't created or anything. And also, this new info is something of a hint for the future, that if Sora actually returns Ven's heart to his body, then Ven would take all of Sora's powers and then ultimately replace him as the hero. Plus, if Nomura does something like that, then we'll never see Kairi and Sora kiss, he'll probably have Ven say something like, "Hey Kairi, I was in love with you all along, you don't love Sora, you love me." I'll just pray that Sora doesn't get kicked off so easily and still gets Kairi in the end. [[User:Werehog21|Werehog, the guy who hates Jesse McCartney with every fiber of his being.]] 10:42 PM 2/18/2010 (UTC)

Allow me to explain. Before BBS began, when Master Xehanort broke Ven's heart in halves to get the X-Blade, it made an unbalance in the worlds. In order to correct the unbalance, Sora was born. [[User:Xoaks|Xoaks]] 11:29, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
:So, wait, Sora was created by an unknown force to save the worlds? That's unbelievable! [[User:Werehog21|Werehog]] 4:14 PM 2/19/2010 (UTC)
:: LOL, Kingdom Hearts is getting really insane with the plot and what not. And I think you can safely say that the "unknown force" is Kingdom Hearts.[[User:Xoaks|Xoaks]] 02:01, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
It is kinda crazy. But, I don't know about you, but I'm getting pretty confused by all these spin-offs. Hopefully we won't have to wait long for (the long awaited) Kingdom Hearts 3. [[User:The Yoshiman 97|The Yoshiman 97]] 00:27, February 20, 2010 (UTC)

: I think it's a little unfair to call BBS a "spin-off". It's the next main game in the series, considering that it was the game teased in KH2 and KH2FM.[[User:Xoaks|Xoaks]] 02:01, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, it might be, but the original two both came on console (Playstation 2). Birth by Sleep was on (and is going to be) on the PSP. I'm looking for the next console Kingdom Hearts since 06. [[User:The Yoshiman 97|The Yoshiman 97]] 06:38, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

: Good Luck with that. Nomura implied it will be at least two more years before 3 is out, since it won't be ready for the 10th anniversary...[[User:Xoaks|Xoaks]] 08:18, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
Noooooo...

Square likes to keep fans waiting. [[User:The Yoshiman 97|The Yoshiman 97]] 20:38, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

{{Oddishh|text=I think we have a mistranslation, guys. O.O}}

-- I've noticed my version of the game (US) doesn't show the scene mentioned [[Sora#Kingdom_Hearts_Birth_by_Sleep_2|here]]. I replayed the final movie, and everything happens _exactly_ as described until "Sora closes his eyes and reaches out", and then we see Ven sitting @ the white room for like 10 seconds and action switches to Radiant Garden. Nothing like the picture seen on that same section showing Sora @ the awakening. In my game version the only vids showing Sora are allways in Destiny Islands (with the exception of Blank Points). Did anyone else notice this? Perhaps someone who has played both japanese and american versions can clarify if there's a diference cloud.pt@gmail.com 23:37, September 17, 2010 (GMT).

{{Maggosh|nathan=Did you wait until the end of the Final Episode credits?}}

My bad. It was there. With 4 credit rolls, I really didn't expect anything after, even from the last one and despite being tradition in previous games. Man this was even worse than hiding Blank Points on the archives. Anyway, maybe it could be clarified in that wiki section about the scene continuing after the staff roll? Just a suggestion [[Special:Contributions/2.81.36.123|2.81.36.123]] 23:29, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

{{Maggosh|nathan=Unfortunately, no. That would be out-of-universe context.}}

==Superhuman strength==
{{SLH
|time= Hands off the panda!
|text= Should it be noted that Sora or more specifically, Roxas can run up skyscrapers?
}}

: Sora does it too vs Ansem.[[User:Xoaks|Xoaks]] 02:54, February 27, 2010 (UTC)

== Mickey's letter in the Home at Last section ==

{{Falcon|time=02:43, March 6, 2010 (UTC)|Axel=At the end of the section, it says that the letter at the end of Kingdom Hearts 2 still remains a mystery. Is it possible that I can link the Mickey Letter page to here 'cause it's not a mystery anymore?}}

{{R&D|time=02:47, March 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=Better yet, since the content is a mistery at the end of KH2 you can change the sentence to this  ''The trio reads the letter, with the contents not revealed to the player'' or something like that.}}

{{Falcon|time=02:54, March 6, 2010 (UTC)|Axel=Done. =)}}

== Sora...Wielder of the X-blade? ==

I'm rewatching the KH Cutscenes, and I noticed that the mysterious voice (which, by the way, sounds nothing like mickey) Mentions that Sora has ''Italic text''The mightiest weapon of all''Italic text''. In BBS, The mightiest weapon, a weapon so powerful Eraqus tried to prevent its creation, is the X-blade. Sora is also stated to be ''Italic text''The one who will open the door''Italic text''. Now, Sora transformed into a heartless, and was returned to a human form by kairi, a princess of heart, thus creating an intersection of darkness and light, further maintained by Ventus' heart residing within Sora's. Further evidence of Sora's ability is the Kingdom Key, which is referenced multiple times in the X-blade. A final note, Sora has been called a Key on more than one occasion.

Thus, it's a pretty safe bet that at some point, Sora will wield the X-Blade, and he may be the only one who can Use its power. [[User:Dragonraptyr|Dragonraptyr]] 07:50, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

I' not so sure about that Sora's mightiest weapon is the keyblade not the X-Blade, besides the X-blade needs to be created with two hearts one of light and other of darkness and he is called "the Key" because he is the key that connects everyones hearts--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 16:49, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Heart of Light: Kairi
Heart of Darkness: Riku

I'm thinking Sora may temporarily turn Riku and Kairi into the X-Blade for the Final battle against the reborn Xehanort. But then, Xehanort will probably have his memories back and he would recognize the X-Blade. Mar 21:39, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Ooh. Maybe in KH3, before the final battle with Xehanort, Sora could go on a journey world by world collecting items to recreate the X-Blade. (e.g. Olympus=Hercules' Sword, Moogles=UW and DC=KKD.) Then, go to RG, go to Cid and ask him to fuse them together to recreate the X-Blade to kill Xehanort for eternity. Eh, eh! --[[User:Gr8champ|Gr8champ]] 21:49, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

For what I know Kairi and Riku never fuse besides Riku's heart is not completly dark he uses light too so your theory kinda that doesn't make sense--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 03:46, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with Xabryn. The only way to create the X-Blade is to fuse a Heart of pure Darkness and a Heart of pure Light. Since Sora is neither he can't weild the weapon. And as stated, Riku is a balance between Light and Dark, thus he can't be a part of it. But still, it would be epic if he could.  --Evnyofdeath 05:52, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

But you guys are forgetting something: Ventus and Vanitas are a part of Sora. Maybe the Keyblade of People's Hearts could be recreated, Sora would stab himself to release Ven and Van, and they could become the X-Blade. [[User:Keyblade474|Keyblade474]] 22:38, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

And you're forgetting that Ventus destroyed Vanitas(at least for what we know) and the X-Blade with him as Vanitas said if Ventus destroyed the X-Blade would be destroying his own heart but since it was connected to Sora it survived inside Sora's heart(or something like that I'm not sure of how his heart survived) but my point is for what we know Vanitas is gone (;_;)--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 00:43, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Forget the Ventus and Vanitas part. The Light and Dark parts of the X-Blade, I think, are already figured out. As you know in Kingdom Hearts II, Roxas fights Sora in the Station of Awakening. Sora,the Light, being upbeat and always warm vs. Roxas, the Dark, being angry and cold (not to mention, Roxas, could be decoded as "SoraX"). With Sora winning, Roxas fuses into Sora, which is the reverse of Ventus and Vantias ( Light absorbs the Dark instead of Dark absorbs Light.) You might say "Well Roxas isnt the Dark!" Well, in the beginning of KH2, Ansem says:

 "you should give some of that hatred to Sora, he is far too kind for his own good."

(We already know Roxas is a part of Sora, so therefore, I assume that Roxas is the darkness part of Sora's heart. To further back that statement, after the duel in KH2 FM, you get the Two Become One Keyblade, which has the "Light&Dark" ability.)

We don't know for sure that Sora is or isn't a possible future or the intended wielder, as he never has the opportunity. (Although Roxas does exist, he only does in spirit and not in a physical sense, as opposed to BBS where both Ventus and Vantias are present and both have their Keyblades.) Just throwing that out there, feel free to shoot me down >.>
–[[User:FatalMercy|FatalMercy]] 03:10, September 1, 2010 (UTC)FatalMercy

==Relationship with Kairi==
{{LapisScarab|time=05:01, May 23, 2010 (UTC)|skinny=The entire section of the personality section involviing the evidence of Sora and Kairi's feelings for each other really ought to be removed. While his closeness to her certainly should be mentioned, that section completely goes against the zero-speculation policy on the wiki. None of that has been actually confirmed by the games or designers, just heavily hinted at. In fact, didn't Tetsuya Nomura say at some point that there wouldn't be any real romance in the series? Disussion? EDIT:If I don't get a response, I'm just going to go ahead and remove it...}}
{{LA|Vtext=Or we could go Lostpedia and make a Theories:Sora page and stick it all there.

Seriously, just kidding. I know it's an awful idea.

Anyway.

I kind of like having it there, Lapis. It's interesting to read, even though I don't give a hoot about SoraxKairi. So, you should get some more opinions before you just "do it". You'll get Rollbacked.

EDIT: Oh. You already did.

So, you post the message, say you'll wait for a response, and, two minutes later, go through with it.

I dunno, couldn't the discussion sort of... you know, be discussed?}}

{{LapisScarab|time=06:35, June 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=Nothing's permenant on a wiki, and it can just be put back if we decide to keep it. Fact is, I put this up for discussion a few weeks ago, and nothing. I could have worded that statement better; I had meant to say that I ''was'' removing it because no one argued the point. Anyway, like I said above, the wiki's supposed to be a no-speculation zone, so its laughable to me that we have a whole list of "evidence" about a relationship that hasn't been confirmed. There's no real point to it either, it's all pretty much saying the same thing, that Sora likes Kairi.}}
{{LA|Vtext=Well alright.}}

{{Dbdbz|time=02:24, December 25, 2010 (UTC)|text= well guys, everyone knows they will end up together. we have seen all the things about how strong their connection is, and even though it hasn't been officially confirmed as of now, that doesn't mean that it is speculation.}}

== Sora's Weight ==

{{Organization 13|time=--[[User:Organization 13|Organization 13]] 11:04, May 29, 2010 (UTC)|text=Is no-one going to mention (At least in the Trivia section) that if you stand on the weight in Huey, Duey and Lueys shop in Traverse Town that it shows Soras weight.}}
{{LA|Vtext=._.

I gotta see this.}}

{{Organization 13|time=--{{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 15:38, June 7, 2010 (UTC)|text=Did you see yet?}}

== A reason for Humanity? ==

Both Sora and Xehanort's heartless both hold (or imprison, in Xehanort's case,) the hearts of others. This migh mean that when they turned into heartless, they were able to use their own hearts as bodies, and the hearts of others to feel and to think.

== So is he really him? ==

{{AZ|time=01:09, June 7, 2010 (UTC)|text= Is Sora really him? I mean how he acted when he was like four (or however old he was in BBS) is a premonition of how he would be when he got older. But think of this. Isnt Vanitas the darkness of Ventus. Almost like another him. Almost like his nobody? And yet for Sora it somehow seems to be the opposite. Instead of Ventus being the whole body its Vanitas. In other words Sora takes on the look of darkness(Vanitas) while Roxas his nobody takes on the look of light(Ventus). So i mean by asking if Sora really is him is: Was everything who he is influenced by Ventus's heart and memories. Even his looks. Like he's the new nobody of Ventus. What would happen if Ventus wasnt in him or didnt combine with him? Would he still have spikey hair or would it be down. Would he still be the same Sora if Ventus separated from him? Its sad to think of him being just some vessel. . . oh and BTW i know what Nomura said about the connection between Vanitas's looks and Ventus's heart but its still something to contemplate. Cause Sora didnt look like that back then. And isnt it only that Ven met Sora when he lost his body???}}

{{One-Winged Angel|time= 16:06 June 8, 2010|Vanitas= I think your wrong and confused. Nomura stated Vanitas took on the appearance that he did because Ventus linked his heart to Sora's and that Vanitas would look different had Ventus linked his heart to someone else.}}

{{AZ|time=01:09, June 7, 2010 (UTC)|text= I understood that part dont get me wrong. But i'm trying to say here who influenced who? If Sora's 'newly born' heart met Ven's so early then even then wasnt he being influenced by Ventus. It goes deeper than Nomura wants to imply or so i assume. Remember the similarity of the attitudes of Sora and Ventus. I highly doubt its a coincidence.}}

{{One-Winged Angel|time= 16:26 June 8, 2010|Vanitas= Ven's heart becomes one with Sora's in the end. This is why Roxas has Ven's appearence and is why I believe Vanitas has an influence over Sora's darkness. However that influence wouldn't be too strong or else Sora would be incapable of wielding a key of light.}}

{{AZ|time=01:09, June 7, 2010 (UTC)|text= This is in the end of the game. I've pretty much concluded that Sora isnt fully who he could've been though. He himself looks like Roxas obviously meaning he also looks like Ventus. That means that he's been influenced by Ventus in a number of ways including his looks and his attitude. It's speculation but it's speculation with solid proof behind it. Nomura made a mistake to say that the looks of Vanitas were influenced by Sora because in Kingdom Hearts 2 i think it was one of the Organization, i forget who, comments on Sora's resemblance to Roxas. Since Roxas has identical looks to Ventus it means that Ven has in fact influenced the looks of Sora. If their hearts met when Sora was a newborn that means that his looks were immediately influenced by Ven's resulting in Vanitas having looks similar to his original vessel. So its a double relationship. Unless of course Sora is somehow related to Ven. . .
(as all nobodies resemble their original vessels and the relationship between Sora and Roxas was no different in that area. I'm pretty sure they used to same facial features for both and if not paying attention one could mistake Sora for Roxas or vice versa. This can also be proven in the ending movie of KH 2 when Sora and Kiari are reunited on Destiny Island and it flashes to a scene of Roxas and Namine)}}

{{One-Winged Angel|time=16:56 June 10, 2010|Vanitas=I think I'm going back to my theory that Roxas is Ven's nobody and that we haven't seen "Sora's True Nobody".}}

{{Drake|time=04:23, June 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=There is an awful lot of tortured logic going on in those posts. It is fair to speculate that Ven's heart may have influenced Sora's personality and Roxas' appearance, but bringing Vanitas into it is entirely out of line because Sora's appearance influenced Vanitas', not the other way around. Vanitas turning into the elder image of Sora is proof Sora was always meant to look like he does, otherwise Vanitas would have looked like someone else and his connection to Sora through Ven would be meaningless. Ven's heart merging with Sora's likely had nothing at all to do with how Sora looked when he grew up. IIRC, Vanitas and the part of Ven's heart with him was entirely destroyed, so when Ven merges with Sora there was nothing about Vanitas left in him.

Sora is who he is, his physical appearance has nothing to with his connection to Ven or Vanitas. Aqua looks like an older Kairi but they have no connection whatsoever. Roxas' appearance though was probably influenced by Ven's. It is possible that since he was Ven's Nobody, not Sora's, as well due to Sora having two hearts. Sure, Roxas is Sora's nobody as far as we know, but you never know with the way the story is going these days}}

{{AZ|time=01:09, June 7, 2010 (UTC)|text= Nice but these are two different situations here. The resemblance between Aqua and Kairi is just a big question mark on my head as to why they did it. But Aqua's hair is shaped different giving her head a slightly different shape. And there's just something about her face that i dont know gives it a different look to Kairi's. Its softer and more full of emotion or something. Or maybe its because she wears blue all the time. . .  So it happens to be with Sora and Ven. But that's where the problem is. By making Sora identical in graphical facial features to Roxas he made him identical to Ven also. That makes Vanitas identical to Ven. If Vanitas is influenced by the hearts of those that Ven's own heart is close then: Why does Vanitas look so much like Ventus? Shouldnt he look more like Sora with his hair down? Cause if i remember clearly Sora did not look like that then. How can you be influenced by something that hasnt even happened yet? Time space bending i suppose. IDK but from a logical point of view this makes sense and if i were writing a book about it, it would be confusing.

From my POV. As a gamer. I dont really care unless the new game comes out with some nonsensical in depth convo about it.}}

{{Drake|time=05:13, June 12, 2010 (UTC)|text=''"If Vanitas is influenced by the hearts of those that Ven's own heart is close then: Why does Vanitas look so much like Ventus?"'' 

Honestly that is a very stupid question. Vanitas looks like Ventus because he's the dark half of Ventus' heart, not exactly but he's practically his heartless. The fact they're two halves of the same heart ensures they will look similar, same  idea with Ansem and Xemnas, Kairi and Namine, Sora and Roxas, etc, etc. Not completely identical, but similar. Now, Ven and Sora looking similar, unless Nomura reveals otherwise (again, never know, could be brothers or whatever) it is coincidence, Ven and Sora have no connection to each other prior to BBS, but Sora ends up looking like Ven. Which is entirely possible of course, that two random people meet who look like each other. If there is a connection there like them being related or something, it wouldn't surprise me.

''"How can you be influenced by something that hasnt even happened yet?"''

This assumption is faulty. The thing that "hasn't happened yet" is Sora's future appearance. Besides the theory that we could say appearance is tied to the heart, just because Sora was younger doesn't mean we have no idea what he'll look like older. That's part of real life, drawing people to approximate what they'll look like when they're older. Also, with the revelation Sora is destined to save all the worlds like he is, it isn't a big stretch to say that yes, Sora was *always* going to look like that, just as he was always going to inherit the Keyblade and go adventuring.

As for Aqua, here's a comparison. Age Kairi a few years and she'd be a dead ringer for her.

http://i443.photobucket.com/albums/qq156/DrakeClawfang/KH-1.png}}

== Sora's Mom ==

Does anyone know who was the voice of Sora's mom?--[[User:KRoNoS|KRoNoS]] 20:32, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

I think its Kath Soucie, but I'm not sure. I'll check for you.[[User:Axel&#39;s Sentiment|Axel&#39;s Sentiment]] 06:16, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

I checked Wikipedia, so it can't be completely proven, but it says Kath Soucie plays Sora's mom.[[User:Axel&#39;s Sentiment|Axel&#39;s Sentiment]] 06:18, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks a bunch!--[[User:KRoNoS|KRoNoS]] 13:48, June 24, 2010 (UTC)
==ventus's heart==
sora had ventus's heart throughout KH but what happend to it after sora lost his heart???[[Special:Contributions/65.32.75.73|65.32.75.73]] 20:35, September 7, 2010 (UTC)

{{iZerox|time=20:43, September 7, 2010 (UTC)|text=I think it's reasonable to assume that it went to Roxas considering he seemingly had emotions.}}

That means Roxas isn't/wasn't a Nobody... -[[User:FatalMercy|FatalMercy]] 18:41, September 13, 2010 (UTC)

Not quite. he was made throught he process all Nobodies are, however because Sora had two Hearts in him, the second one followed the Body and Soul and became a part of Roxas. He IS a Nobody, like any Nobody he does not have his Original Selves Heart, however unlike any other Nobody he still possesses a Heart because as mentioned, Sora had two inside him, and one became a part of him. --Evnyofdeath 18:58, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

thanks that helps alot ive bene wondering about that your the best[[Special:Contributions/65.32.75.73|65.32.75.73]] 16:41, September 20, 2010 (UTC)

==Inconsistent==
I don't know what system this wiki has in place to guess what you would call certain characters master, wielder, apprentice (though from what I've seen it is a bit odd, since Riku and Sora are wielders, Mickey is somehow a master and Terra and Ven are apprentices) but the article is a bit inconsistent in that it refers to Sora throughout the page as Keyblade Master, shouldn't that all be changed to conform with this wiki's policy?

First sign your posts. Second, Sora is called a Master because it has been stated that only Keyblade Masters can extract Hearts, Master Xehanort says so himself in the Xehanort Reports. What does Sora do at Hollow Bastion?--Evnyofdeath 18:46, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Not really the Keyblade of People's Hearts have the ability not Sora that is right it should be changed Sora isn't a Keyblade Master--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 18:55, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, with that logic only the Keyblade of People's Hearts can unlock/lock Hearts. How then do you explain in BBS how Terra uses his regular Keyblade to unlock Aurora's Heart, how Malificent flat out says Aqua can do the same, having sensed the ability in Terra, how Master Xehanort uses his Keyblade to unlock his Heart and possess Terra, and how Xehanort later uses the same Keyblade to lock both Master Xehanort and Terra's Hearts. --Evnyofdeath 19:00, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Also, even if it IS the KoPH that has the power and not Sora in KH1, by KH2 he would definatly be a Keyblade Master. Not only has he defeated Ansem, Seeker of Darkness, but Marluxia and Xemnas, the 3 most powerful bad guys yet. --Evnyofdeath 19:08, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

He is powerful that doesn't mean that he is a keyblade master, and I never said that Keyblade Masters can't release hearts I said that it wasn't Sora's abilities that released the heart but the KoPH did the job, besides Terra didn't released the heart MX did see [[Talk:Braig#Spoiler]] and I suppose that you played the game too MX said that terra didn't stole the heart I don't remember it very well but MX said that he did it--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 19:14, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

Its confusing when MX says Terra lacks the power, but he may have meant Terra can't do it WILLINGLY. And what matters with Xehanort locking his heart is that he uses a REGULAR Keyblade to do it, not whether Terra or Xehanort were in control (though, from what he says when he does it, I think Terra took control at that moment).--Evnyofdeath 19:57, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

I think MX meant Terra can't do it willingly, not that he lacks the power to do so. What I was getting at is that even without a Keyblade of People's Heart, it is possible to unlock a Heart if you are strong enough with the Keyblade, and in the Xehanort Reports Master Xehanort says that only a Master has the power necissary to do so.--Evnyofdeath 19:59, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
::Although the KoH is used to release Sora's heart, it's still him using it. When Riku tries to use it on Maleficent, he only unlocks her darkness (what Riku said the Keyblade was for) - when Sora uses it, he not only unlocks the darkness within him, but his and Kairi's hearts as well. I'd say that this shows that Sora possesses the ''abilities'' of a Master, even if he doesn't have the title. Just like Terra.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 21:17, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

How can we know that Riku wasn't just trying to unlock Maleficent's Darkness? How can we know that it isn't the Keyblade but Sora? If I remember it well Both Sora and Riku say that that is a keyblade that unlocks people's hearts.

EDIT:Besides look at what MX said about Stealing hearts:<br> "Unlikely a powerful light still lives inside Terra. You see,  people like him... they don't have the power to steal hearts."
Yep they both say that it unlocks people's heart being it only the darkness or unlocking it from the body:
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::When Xehanort says that, he is referring to how only those who align with darkness can steal hearts. It's not the same as unlocking them. Nomura covered this in the interviews.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

==A Heartless==

{{Xelias|time=16:30, September 19, 2010 (UTC)|text=I was wondering... From Sora's "suicide" to his union with Roxas at the end of KH2, was Sora human ? Well, if we think about it, Sora's body wasn't in his possession - it was Roxas. But Sora had a material body all that time... How ? We all know that Kairi gave him a "new body" at Hollow Bastion. 

Wait a minute... A Heartless that can possess a body which isn't his own... [[Ansem, Seeker of Darkness|Does that remain you of anything ?]] Ansem was - we can suppose - a Pureblood Heartless before his union with Riku (you know, the brown cape-thing...) And he took over that body, allowing him to regain a corporal form. Sora did exactly the same thing, only he didn't steal a body, he was given a new one. Apart from that detail, Sora and Ansem did exactly the same thing. So why would that make Sora something different than Ansem - which is considered a Heartless ? Sure, Sora was saved by the Light, while Ansem used "THE POWER OF DARKNESS !" (/Quote)... And that would explain why Sora cannot use Anti-Form after his union with Roxas (for a good reason - he can't Drive afterward, he only fights with Riku as a partner). Anti-Form would be alike to Ansem's Guardian, a manifestation of Sora's existence as a Heartless. 

I know this theory is a little strange - but to me, it's just logic. Comment, please}}

{{Xabryn|text=Sora was a heartless until KH2 Larxene call him a "Heartless Hero" because of that, the guardian isn't Ansem's heartless form we're not sure of what it is since <spoiler> Terra-Xehanort uses it </spoiler>, that's all I have to say (I think)}}

{{Xelias|time=16:30, September 19, 2010 (UTC)|text=I love the way you use spoilers, heheheh... True for the Guardian. But it is an extension of Terranort/Xehanort/Ansem's darkness, and is connected to Heartless, I think. And I think that during KH2 Sora was a Heartless too.}}

{{Xabryn|text=Roxas was being fused with Sora in since the begin of the game remember? I guess the fusion wasn't complete until the ending or Roxas wouln't be able to leave Sora and talk to Naminé yet incomplete or not they were fused in other words they were somebodies. And there a some theory that the Guardian is MX <spoiler> in the final battle when Aqua warp to that place that we describe as a light realm Terra can control his body so maybe it is a heartless varsion of Master Xehanort, specially since the info bar before the fight call him his "shadowy other"</spoiler> yet that is all speculation unless Nomura confirm it, but there are some things that Nomura don't want to explain like the guardian and Dark Mode}}

== Cleanup section: Days ==

Most of the information in the Days section doesn't have any info pertaining to Sora. Need members to clean it up.--[[User:Lord Captain Cecil Harvey|Lord Captain Cecil Harvey]] 13:44, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

== Age Pic Tabs ==

I noticed that Riku's page has tabs on his infobar for pictures at different ages. Could someone do that for Sora? [[Special:Contributions/66.215.20.249|66.215.20.249]] 02:56, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

I just removed the tabs from Riku's page, because they weren't supposed to be there. The tabs are more for groups of characters all on one page. (i.e. Bosses, Trios such as Huey, Duey, and Louie). --{{User:JFHavoc/Sig}} 02:59, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I just noticed that myself. I think it looks better without them. [[Special:Contributions/66.215.20.249|66.215.20.249]] 03:29, October 3, 2010 (UTC)

== Keyblade usage *SPOILERS* ==

I was just wondering...
Sora's ability to use the Keyblade comes because he carries Ventus' heart, right?
However, if Roxas was formed from Sora's body and Ventus' heart, could someone explain this...
How Sora was able to use the Keyblade after Roxas was created?
I mean, if he had no Ventus' heart anymore at that period of time, wouldn't that technically mean that he couldn't wield the Keyblade?
:Sora was CHOSEN by the Keyblade because he had Ven's Heart. After he was chosen, the Keyblade of the Realm of Light became his and his alone, however by virtue of the fact Ven's Heart was in him he could call on Ven's Keyblade through certain circumstances. After Roxas was created, Ven's Heart split from Sora, and this caused him to lose the ability to call on Ven's Keyblade (though at this point he hadn't yet) however as stated the Keyblade of the Realm of Light already chose him, so he could keep it, however due to Roxas's (and Xion's) existence, it could manifest in more than one place. After Xion's death, Roxas's grief allows him to tap into Ven's Heart and call on his Keyblade, which takes the form of Oathkeeper while his transforms into Oblivion. After his reunion with Sora, Roxas returns Ven's Heart to him regranting Sora the ability to summon Ven's Keyblade, which is unlocked though the Drive Forms. --Evnyofdeath 06:19, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

And let me add that since Roxas has fully merged with Sora, Sora have the ability to use 2 Keyblades at once without using any assistance (Drive Forms), shown in the final fight against Xemnas where he wields 2 Keyblades, Way to Dawn, and Kingdom Key. [[User:17master|17master]] 09:58, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
:That was Riku's Keyblade though, not Ven's, so it doesn't count for what we are talking about. --Evnyofdeath 10:01, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
oh yeah, I didn't notice you were pointing out the ability to summon Ven's Keyblade, sorry [[User:17master|17master]] 10:12, October 10, 2010 (UTC)

Although it may seem pointless to converse about this...how would Nomura explain what could have happened to Ven's heart when Sora unlocked his and Kairi's in Hollow Bastion? If the details pertaining to Sora's use of the KoPH on himself are correct, shouldn't that mean that Ven's heart is still floating around, searching for its body? I know that Sora's heart is part of Ven's (since that was the only way to complete his fractured heart) but shouldn't it have affected the bond, the connection. --Jacobmirror 15:34, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

== Dual Wielding ==

It says that Sora only has the ability to dual-wield because he can summon Ventus' Keyblade.  However, Riku can dual-wield without having another Keyblade wielder's Heart.  Remember, he summons Destiny's Embrace alongside the Way to Dawn so that he and Kairi could fight together.  So unless he broke into Radiant Garden and stole Aqua's keyblade from the Chamber of Repose, it seems like he has the ability to use the Synch Blade ability, right?

Also, Sora is never shown summoning Ven's keyblade.  The first time he ever dual-wields, it is with Yen Sid's keyblade instead, the Star Seeker.  There are only two other forms where he can dual wield, and there are two other versions of the Kingdom Key, created when Roxas and Xion were created.  So it seems to me that each drive form uses simply one of his own keyblades, or else the Star Seeker.

And we see that Roxas, who has the same abilities as Sora as officially stated, can dual-wield without Ven's keyblade - he uses Xion's instead.  So if Roxas can do that, Sora can most certainly dual-wield using only Xion's, not Ven's.

Not saying that he ''can't'' summon Ven's keyblade, because I'm sure he'd be able to.  It just seems like Ultimania sort of exaggerated this.  It seems to me that Keyblade Wielders have the inherent ability to summon a copy of their Keyblade.

(As an aside, it seems more than likely that Sora can wield up to 5 Keyblades at a time: 3 Kingdom Keys, the Star Seeker, and the Wayward Wind.  Possibly 6, as it seems likely he would also be able to wield the Void Gear if it still exists.)

/rant

[[User:Lord Knight Xiron|Lord Knight Xiron]] 16:50, October 22, 2010 (UTC)Lord Knight Xiron

the point is is that Sora's Second Keyblade, Roxas's Second Keyblade, Xion's keyblade and Ventus's Keyblade are all one and the same, the only difference is the keychain attached. In Mysterious Tower, it had the Star Seeker keychain attached, with Roxas it had the oblivion/Oathkeeper keychain attached (depending on which one is actually his "Second" keyblade) With Xion it had a Kingdom Key Keychain attached, and with Ventus it had the Wayward Wind Keychain attached. As for Riku, no one knows where that keyblade came from--[[User:ShadowsTwilight|ShadowsTwilight]] 17:00, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

:For Xion's Keyblade being Ventus', that makes sense- probably should have looked a little deeper for that one.  I still would say the Star Seeker is its own Keyblade (formerly Yen Sid's, then Mickey's), but that's just theoretical, so I won't argue my point.  But that still leaves Roxas' Kingdom Key, which exists at the same time as Sora's Kingdom Key, and Sora can use both together, as seen in the Final Mix boss battle.  So Sora ''can'' dual-wield without calling on Ven's Keyblade.  He may not have been meant to, as Roxas was not meant to exist, but he can.  It just seems like an oversight to me.

(forgot the sig) [[User:Lord Knight Xiron|Lord Knight Xiron]] 17:14, October 22, 2010 (UTC)Lord Knight Xiron
:I belive its been explained that Sora's, Roxas's, and Xion's Keyblades are actually the same Keyblade manifesting in multiple places at one time. After defeating Xion Roxas's grief allowed him to tap into Ven's heart and gain his Keyblade. --Evnyofdeath 17:18, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Why does Nomura have to make this series so confusing--[[User:ShadowsTwilight|ShadowsTwilight]] 17:19, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
:Actually, once you get your head around the more complex parts, its not so bad. That is, until the next game comes out and mindf*cks us some more. --Evnyofdeath 17:23, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

The problem is wrapping your head around the complex stuff in time before the next game --[[User:ShadowsTwilight|'''<span style="color:#000000">Shadows</span>''']][[User talk:ShadowsTwilight|'''<span style="color:#505050">Twilight</span>''']][[File:Χ-blade (Incomplete) KHBBS.png|50px]] 17:51, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
:Heres what you need: A Photographic or Semi-Photographic memory, a lot of time on your hands. --Evnyofdeath 17:53, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
{{Falcos|mask=I've found everything pretty simple to grasp so far... That having been said, I have an eidetic memory. And I've been wrong before.}}

:::Strictly speaking I don't have that kind of memory, though people always tell me I have a good one... but I don't find most of this confusing. There's a few exceptions, like Riku's double wielding that aren't explained, but everything that IS explained seems to make perfect sense. <span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span><span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span><span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 18:43, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

==Quote==
At the top of the article, the quote is detailed as such:
<nowiki>{{Q|I don't need a weapon! My friends are my power!|Sora|''Kingdom Hearts''}}</nowiki>
Do we want to change this to "Sora in ''Kingdom Hearts''" or just leave it as-is? None of the other main characters' quotes detail where they are from.
<span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span>]][[User_talk:Soxra|<span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span>]][[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 01:10, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

== Question About Sora... ==

What is Sora's last name??       {{SUBST:User:Dbdbzdbgtwoo/sig2}} 03:51, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
:Proly McCarthy. He hates commies.[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 04:35, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
:[[KHWiki:April Fool's Day Joke 2010|Sora Florida]]<!--Serious answer: If he has one, it hasn't been revealed. Most KH original characters seem to only have one name-->.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}04:38, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

:Probably will never be revealed.[[User:Scarletspiderfan|Scarletspiderfan]] 22:42, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

== Appearance ==

Ok so as we know, Ventus and Roxas are identical in appearance.  Since numerous characters mention that Sora and Roxas look very similar as well, isn't it reasonable to say that Sora and Ventus look alike as well? So what's the reason behind this?  I think their hearts assimilating cause Sora to take on some of Ven's physical characteristics.  A mention in the article might be good what do you guys think?[[User:Scarletspiderfan|Scarletspiderfan]] 22:42, December 20, 2010 (UTC)

:Except... Sora already existed when he and Ventus merged. And, as you said, it's already said that Sora looks like Roxas and Roxas is identical to Ventus... so a comment doesn't really need to be made about what people can infer from that. {{User:Soxra/Sig|t=10:44pm, December 20, 2010 (UTC)}}

:Yeah but what I mean is that why would Sora and Ventus look similar when their two entirely separate people? If their hearts hadn't connected, would Sora have just looked like him for no reason? I think you could make the argument that it was Ventus' heart assimilating with Sora that causes Sora to gradually resemble him as he grows older.[[User:Scarletspiderfan|Scarletspiderfan]] 00:53, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
::Sure, you could make that argument, but with no proof, your point is null and void. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 00:56, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
::The proof is that they look alike when Sora is 15. [[User:Scarletspiderfan|Scarletspiderfan]] 20:26, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
::{{Lapidoth|mad=No, I don't think so. Young Sora looks like older Sora. Either way, if that were true, wouldn't it happen the other way around? Ventus was the incomplete one...not Sora.}}
::Face-wise there's a bit of difference, but that's a good point about Ventus being the incomplete one.[[User:Scarletspiderfan|Scarletspiderfan]] 20:26, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

== Other picture of Sora's early design ==
{{Organization 13|text=Just another picture of Sora's earlier design: [[File:Sora (Early Concept) 2 (Art).png]]}}

Woah! That's pretty awesome! {{User:CaelumLucisCaliga/Sig}} 12:33, 17 April 2011 (EDT)~

==References and KH3D==
First of all, [http://yfrog.com/nvyv4hj this is the screenshot in question].
Secondly, the reflist seems to not work whenever I put a new link in; the Ultimania and KH3D reference have swapped links. Any idea what's going on? Please help? <sup>'''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#4997D0">Tambours</font>]]'''</sup><sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#191970">Néant</font>]]'''</sub> '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="silver">Ensemble !</font>]]''' 08:43, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
:Why are we doing this. Do we even know that his new clothing is important? Why have we not remembered anything we learned with Days and BbS and Re:coded?
:Also, I'm not getting any error with the Ultimania reference. It appears to be on your end.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:40, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
Strangely enough, we had actually ''detailed'' the appearances from KH1 and KH2, so regardless of whatever plot significance the clothes should have, that they have changed is already something noteworthy. Inasmuch as Days and BBS and coded brought in speculation, removing details about clothes would be like removing an entire Appearance section. Yes, we can take out that reference after some time, but are we still not going to talk about the appearance change? I highly doubt it. <sup>'''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#4997D0">Tambours</font>]]'''</sup><sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#191970">Néant</font>]]'''</sub> '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="silver">Ensemble !</font>]]''' 15:45, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

EDIT 15:50, 15 September 2011 (UTC) I'll agree that the reference should be removed, but I still think the change of appearance should be mentioned. Or is it too early to put it in the Appearance section still? : ( <sup>'''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#4997D0">Tambours</font>]]'''</sup><sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#191970">Néant</font>]]'''</sub> '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="silver">Ensemble !</font>]]'''
::From what I saw, we don't even have enough info to detail the appearance change. Plus, again, trailer/demo.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:26, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

== KHII or KH3D for main image? ==

I think we should use the KHII. We should always use the characters current age as the main image. The KH3D render shows a 14 year old Sora while the KHII render shows a 15 year old Sora. As I've said a couple of times now but I'll add to the talk page as well: if we get a render of baby Master Xehanort should we use it to replace the current render of him because he it's newer? No! Even though the baby render is newer, we shouldn't use it as a main image. We should always display the characters current age no matter how old the render is. If we get a new render of the character in the same age, then we replace it. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 15:10, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
:''"Never says he got younger in KH3D. As far as we know, it's his current age. In the trailer, they say "my clothes changed!" not "I got younger!")" Quote by Chitalian8''. Sora says my clothes changes because he already knows he got younger. In the TGS trailer we see Sora and Riku in their KH1 clothes on Destiny Island. Then in the Jump Festa trailer we can see Sora diving into Traverse Town still in his KH1 clothes. Then when he arrives in Traverse Town he is surprised by the fact that his clothes change. He doesn't say anything about himself getting younger because he already that. Also, just by looking at their faces we can easily see that both Sora and Riku has their KH1 faces while being in the Realm of Sleep, not their KH2. You've got to be blind in order to not see that the KH3D renders for Sora and Riku are younger than their KHII renders. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 15:13, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
{{Chitalian8|time=15:18, 22 January 2012 (UTC)|neku= "''We should always use the characters current age as the main image.''" Okay. Sora and Riku's current age, in KH3D, is 14 for Sora and 15 for Riku. That's how old they currently are in KH3D, even if their ages did get reversed by a year. So we should use that one. 

Also, yeah, I'm more for using the most recent image we have of the character.}}

== Ventus did not give Sora his inheritance ==

According to GameFAQs, Nomura said that Sora received his Keyblade all on his own, and Ventus did not make him an inheritor. Sora's second Keyblade is Ventus's, but the Synchblade ability was awakened by Roxas. I'll look more for the sources tonight, but if someone finds them before then, please correct the section.[[Special:Contributions/192.249.47.195|192.249.47.195]] 17:21, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
:...This is getting really convoluted. First the Keyblade was just stolen from Riku, then it was received via inheritance from Ven, and now it just belongs to Sora all on his own? I think Nomura's own brain is fried. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 20:22, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
::As far as I know, Nomura has never once claimed that Sora inherited his Keyblade from Ventus. He received the ability to DUAL WIELD from possessing Ventus' heart. That has nothing to do with his obtaining the Keyblade in the first place. [[Special:Contributions/131.128.130.106|131.128.130.106]] 20:31, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

== Sora/Zexion battle ==

Where is the battle details and strategies for when Sora (or I think it was Riku) fought Zexion in the form of Sora in COM? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 12:19, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
:Riku is the one who fought, and Zexion takes the form of Sora in a cutscene before the battle not during it so there are no status or strategy for him.--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 13:32, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

== Quotes ==

{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}}|xion=is there no quotes page because there isn't supposed to be one or no one has the information for such a long page.}}

== Coding fixup ==

Can I get someone to deal with the epic coding fail on this page? I'd do it myself, but... I'm not exactly a code techie, either. [[User:Draconai|Draconai]] 03:07, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

:Where and what is the fail? {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 04:04, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

The anon is talking about the fail last night. The coding was messed up before I went to bed, but I knew it was probably a small glitch, so I didn't worry about it. It's fixed now.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 17:39, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

==[http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Wreck-It_Ralph Wreck-it Ralph] Appearance==
Its been confirmed by multiple people that Sora makes an appearance in the Disney film, Wreck-it Ralph. He appears in the Tapper Bar scene in his KH1 attire, is this something worth mentioning on his page on the wiki?

There is no visual proof so far, but has been added to the [http://disney.wikia.com/wiki/Wreck-It_Ralph/List_of_Cameos#Disney cameo list] of game characters who appear in the film on the Disney Wiki. So far no one who has seen the movie has debunked this and is considered true.<br>[[User:Ixbran|Ixbran]] ([[User talk:Ixbran|talk]]) 04:18, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
:Lack of evidence is not evidence. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 12:50, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
::I saw something that could charitably be called Sora-like on the last to bottom row of the arcade view of Tapper's Bar. It's really too small to say for sure without looking at an HD, pausable copy.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:18, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
http://images.wikia.com/disney/images/5/50/Sora_cameo.png
<br>The disney wiki was able to update with a screen shot of Soras appearance.<br>[[User:Ixbran|Ixbran]] ([[User talk:Ixbran|talk]]) 10:21, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
:Still too blurry to make out, best we wait for the DVD/Blu-ray. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 11:44, 26 December 2012 (UTC)

Higher quality image
http://images.wikia.com/disney/images/f/ff/Wreck-It_Ralph_Sora_cameo.png<br>[[Special:Contributions/174.27.254.241|174.27.254.241]] 04:58, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
::The fact that it changed from last-to-bottom row to bottom row makes both images unreliable, therefore it is not confirmed. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 06:32, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

[http://i.imgur.com/Teg1egu.jpg Its a cowboy.] {{User:UnknownChaser/Sig}} 18:22, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

==Keyblade Master?==
I saw several different articles at several different and they say that Sora is a Keyblade Master, yet only Riku was marked as one by Yen Sid. Are those sites wrong? They don't say that Nomura said he is one now. Read the third paragraph: [http://kotaku.com/here-are-some-things-to-expect-in-kingdom-hearts-3-514562936 link] But then again, the edit says that Nomura didn't correct nor deny when he was interviewed and that question appeared. I'm all confused.—[[User:Kaimi|Kaimi]] ([[User talk:Kaimi|talk]]) 15:30, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
:Technically, at the end of DDD, Sora was not a Keyblade Master. Maybe he will become one of them during KHIII, but for now, he is not a mast. Just a wielder ;) [[User:Lady Junky|Lady Junky]] ([[User talk:Lady Junky|talk]]) 15:50, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
::Kotaku is not a site to be trusted, and secondly, the last story cutscene in DDD only shows Riku being "knighted" a Keyblade Master, not Sora. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 17:14, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
:::Like Terra, he is a master but not a Master. He has the skills, not the title, and characters have referred to him as a master informally. It's a case of poor terminology.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:00, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

== KHIII Render ==

{{SoRiKa|riku=Just a stupid question, but if we have an official render for Sora from KHIII why aren't we using it instead of his II render?}}
:I think this is mostly because KHIII is still in an early concept phase, so image and video material should not be displayed outside of this context until we get more substantial press coverage or at least the official website gets updated. {{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 22:24, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

== Quotes ==

{{SoRiKa|sora=I added some quotes under BBS since we apparently had none, they aren't the best and could use some touching up and/or deleting so could someone get on that?}}

== Abilities section ==

{{Chitalian8|time=16:32, 4 November 2015 (UTC)|text= Does anyone else think the Abilities section would function better if it was divvied up into subsections like "Physical," "Magical," and "Strength of Heart" as opposed to the haphazard organization that we've got going on right now? Like, Sora's ability to cut buildings and leap ridiculous distances isn't really miscellaneous.}}
{{KrytenKoro|Well, he's defined by using Keyblade and magic, and perhaps those two could be subsumed into his fighting style, but his basic physical feats aren't clearly a result of either of those. Then again, KH3D indicated that Flowmotion was a result of Sora's further familiarity with the Keyblade, so perhaps his mobility and endurance ''are'' part of his Keyblade prowess. His magic certainly is.

I could definitely see a rewrite that synthesized the three "abilities" sections into one, per the above, with the fighting style as a separate paragraph covering ''how'' he uses these abilities. I'm not sure we need to distinguish his "physical" abilities from his others, as they're still bouyed by a fair amount of deep-source magic, and I'm having trouble seeing how you could disentangle his strength of heart from how he got the Keyblade in the first place, and how he uses it.

Maybe start the paragraph covering his strength of heart (the one thing he started with), fade into him receiving the Keyblade, and how it transformed him on a physical and ethereal level, and then follow that up with a second paragraph (the current fighting style, with some additions on him forming bonds with people) on how he chooses to use these gifts?}}

==Clarity==
I just want a little clarity here. When Sora was chosen by the Keyblade, the had the potential to wield 2, due to already having Ventus's heart and keyblade. When he became a heartless, he lost that ability until he remerged with Roxas, right?[[User:Cloudtheavenger|Cloudtheavenger]] ([[User talk:Cloudtheavenger|talk]]) 06:02, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
:It seems so, but it's not clear, as Roxas didn't fully merge until the end of KH2.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:39, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

== Variations ==

Should Vanitas, Shadow Roxas, Clone Sora, AntiSora, Shadow Sora, Data-Roxas, and Data-Sora's Heartless be added?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:09, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
:Vanitas does look like him, but they're only connected indirectly, through Ventus, so it'd depend on how we perceive a "variation" in this instance. Shadow Roxas is also an indirect connection, though very much less connected, it's a copy of a half after all. Clone Sora is a copy of AntiForm Sora, so I say yes. AntiSora and Shadow Sora are dark duplicates of Sora so it's a little different. Data-Roxas is also a copy of a half. Data-Sora's Heartless is the same as Data-Roxas and Shadow Roxas. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 02:21, 16 June 2016 (UTC)

==Secret Mission==
At the end of 0.2 Fragmentary Passage, I'm pretty sure Sora was returning from saying goodbye to the Dream Eaters from Dream Drop Distance and not some actual mission. The text for the story in the game seems to pass it off as just that. [[User:Diamonddeath|Diamonddeath]] ([[User talk:Diamonddeath|talk]]) 08:22, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
:Makes sense to me.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:54, 30 January 2017 (UTC)

== Key Art 9 and 12 ==

I'm not sure these should be included.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:08, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

{{spoiler}} Ok I don’t mean to sound like some shipper or something but it seemed to me after Kingdom Hearts 3 Sora and Kairi were confirmed without a shadow of a doubt. I noticed the note asking to change the section on Sora’s relationship with Kairi, saying confirmation needs to be changed to fruition. That’s practically the same word so I don’t see the need to change that, and does this mean you guys think they aren’t confirmed, because I can help show someone if they don’t think so. {{spoilerend}}
:I believe that the issue ''there'' is that "confirmation" is more out-of-universe compared to "fruition" which is more ''in-universe'', which is how that section of the article should be written. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 04:59, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
::Rex is correct. The section as it currently stands is written as if by a breathless shipper, rather than someone writing an encyclopedia article. Confirmation and fruition are also ''very'' different words.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:04, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

== Did Xion go into Sora or Roxas? ==

I've always assumed Xion went back to Sora (and she says as much at the end of 358/2), but while looking up why exactly Roxas had to return to Sora in the first place, I saw some people saying Roxas absorbed her instead ("Eventually, the flow of memories slows to a stop, even after Xion is defeated and absorbed by Roxas.")

Does anyone know which is right for sure?

--[[User:Mikoto|Mikoto]] ([[User talk:Mikoto|talk]]) 12:11, 24 October 2021 (UTC)