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| I played yesterday KH2 for check if Silver Rock really exist in HT, and I don't found it, you can check, the guide is wrong, in the italian guide too is not write he can be found in HT, only in Pride Lands, Agrabah and Underworld (in the cups of corse), so is an error. If you don't belive me, check for yourself or if you don't want play, see the youtube video, other proof, don't exist ANY Silver Rock model with the HT texture--[[Special:Contributions/93.150.151.244|93.150.151.244]] 09:39, 25 November 2015 (UTC) | | I played yesterday KH2 for check if Silver Rock really exist in HT, and I don't found it, you can check, the guide is wrong, in the italian guide too is not write he can be found in HT, only in Pride Lands, Agrabah and Underworld (in the cups of corse), so is an error. If you don't belive me, check for yourself or if you don't want play, see the youtube video, other proof, don't exist ANY Silver Rock model with the HT texture--[[Special:Contributions/93.150.151.244|93.150.151.244]] 09:39, 25 November 2015 (UTC) |
| :Here's the Silver Rock page from the Ultimania [http://kh13.com/forum/gallery/sizes/17577-kh2-ultimania-351/large/]. It only lists two worlds (Agrabah and Pride Lands), but the Large Body only has two worlds listed as well, despite appearing in three. I can't seem to find a bestiary of the world itself, though. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 13:08, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
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| ::To start with, the Ultimania doesn't list the Cups appearance. Do we have a scan from the FM Ultimania that would hopefully be more up to date?
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| ::Anon: strong confirmation means we need to be exhaustive about this -- as in, a youtube video of every possible room explored at every chapter of both episodes, contacting Bradygames itself to try to track down the source of the error, or someone figuring out where the game stores enemy appearance information and checking it there. It's possible the difficulty the game is set at could also be an issue. It's a lot harder to document evidence of absence than our normal Bradygames errors, and requires a higher threshold to just say "no, this officially licensed product is wrong". FWIW, I will attempt to start checking this weekend, but I can't confirm I will get there.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:44, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
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| :::I just checked the BradyGames guide and although Halloween Town is listed on the Silver Rock's stat page, the Silver Rock is not listed in the Halloween Town enemy list. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 15:21, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
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| ::::Do the stats match any other enemies? In particular, are their enemies in Halloween Town that are missing stats in that guide?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:39, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
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| :::::None of the other HT enemies miss any stats. Also, we have an image of the HT appearance of all enemies that appear in HT, except the Silver Rock. So I think the anon is right. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 16:01, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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| ::::::I also think he's right. I checked both the normal and FM Ultimania and Silver Rock is never listed as an enemy in Halloween Town, the Piggyback guide says the same thing. I also checked both game versions (post-ending though) and never saw the Heartless either. The missing Halloween Town appearance was always odd (it's not shown in the Character Report too) so I think it's simply a mistake by Bradygames. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 22:09, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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| :::::::Exactly how I said, but you didn't belive me -.---[[Special:Contributions/93.150.159.212|93.150.159.212]] 22:25, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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| ::::::::No, ShardofTruth provided sources, which is what I was asking for. There is a huge difference between simply saying something that happens to be correct, and showing that it's correct with evidence. The Ultimania is definitely more reliable, so I think that's enough to resolve this.
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| ::::::::Out of curiosity, do the stats for the Silver Rock match any other enemy's HT stats? Or could they be Coliseum stats?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:49, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
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| :::::::::I don't know, because in italian guide there is only the Agrabah and Pride Lands stats and say (in cup section) how it appear--[[Special:Contributions/93.150.159.212|93.150.159.212]] 00:02, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
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| ::::::::::The stats for the Silver Rock are unique (0.5 HP & EXP multiplier) and were correctly calculated for the first Halloween episode, so it wasn't a mix-up with another Heartless. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 13:22, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
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