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| == Mysterious Tower Battle Music BBS == | | == <span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">Header? </span></span></span> == |
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| | <span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">{{LA|Varmor=Well, I don't know where else to post this besides the Monaco.css page itself.... so... where's the header on the sight? Is it just me, or is there a blank white strip at the top of the page where checkered Kingdom Hearts symbols should be?}} |
| | {{Randomnessity|hooded=Hey you're right! What the heck is wrong with it?}} </span></span></span> |
| | :<span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">Nothing. You should probably reload your browser.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 20:16, January 10, 2010 (UTC) </span></span></span> |
| | <span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">{{GS|time=20:37, January 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=The link was broken, so as I normally do, I replaced the link with a new version of the image. For some reason it's still blank for me though. I don't know what's going wrong, it doesn't make sense.}} |
| | {{LA|Vtext=Yeah, same with me. Sorry, Kryten. Nothing.}} </span></span></span> |
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| | ==<span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">Userboxes</span></span></span>== |
| | <span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">{{One-Winged Angel|time=20:56 January 12, 2010|text=What's with the hipocricy!? I've been told it's okay to create unofficial Userboxes yet when I do they're deleted. I'd like to ascertain as to why I'm being "bullied".}} |
| | {{KrytenKoro|How is it hypocrisy if no-one else is making off-topic userboxes?}} |
| | {{One-Winged Angel|time=22:02 January 12, 2010|text=It's hypocrisy because people say they're allowed but delete them when their made like their not allowed.}} </span></span></span> |
| | {{BebopKate|time=03:39, January 16, 2010 (UTC)|text=Let me explain again, One-Winged Angel. You are allowed to make non-''Kingdom Hearts'' userboxes as long as the coding is on ''your userpage'' and the pictures are stored off-wiki. Again, I encourage you to look at the coding on my userpage. You'll notice the bottom nine userboxes are not templates like the wiki userboxes; all of the boxes' information is on my userpage only, and all of the images are linked from PhotoBucket. |
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| | As I said before, I would be more than happy to assist you if you would like similar userboxes on your page.}} |
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| | == <span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">Keyblade Graveyard </span></span></span> == |
| | <span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9"><span style="color:#000000">{{Randomnessity|text=Shouldn't Keyblade Graveyard be added to the sidebar in the worlds section now that it has been confirmed?}}</span> |
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| | =='''<span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9">Just a Question</span></span>'''== |
| | <span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9">The rock titan and the Ice titan in kingdom hearts, they have names, revealled in the Hercules animated series or somethin like that. The Ice one is Hydros, The rock one is Lythos, the lava one is Pyros and the wind one is Stratos, so why note use these names in the articles instead of the Titan Titles. Another point would be if there was ever an explaination as to why Pyros and Stratos are absent in the Kingdom Hearts series, I mean with 6 games and a remake for three of them making 9, you think they'd be able to squeeze in these two characters, it just doesn't seem right without them, any other thoughts?</span></span> |
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| | <span style="color:#FF0000"><span style="color:#A9A9A9">([[User:Leviathan657|Leviathan657]] 03:23, January 16, 2010 (UTC))</span></span> |
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| | Hi, Leviathan. The ''Kingdom Hearts'' Wiki deals with information only in the context of the ''Kingdom Hearts'' video games. We do not cover information from other areas, such as Disney films or TV series, or the ''Final Fantasy'' games, as there are other, more suitable wikis and sites that cover that info. The Ice Titan is never actually called Hydros in the game; we feel it would be confusing if someone looking for information on "Ice Titan" came across "Hydros" instead since it's never referred to in-game by that name. |
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| | We don't know why the other Titans aren't around, but since there are almost assuredly more ''Kingdom Hearts'' games on the way, there's a still chance they'll appear. {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} |
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| | == Coliseum infoboxes == |
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| | I need someone to get me a high quality screenshot of the Cup scoreboards - those things that are purple with yellow text. I'm going to try and get the Coliseum infoboxes finished, and then we can finish all enemy infoboxes.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 18:29, January 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | == Sidebar == |
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| | {{NitrousX|text=Should Xion and Axel be added under "Main Protagonists"? They were in fact one of the three main protagonsists in Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days.}} |
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| | {{Xabryn|time=16:15, January 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=What about Master Xehanort and Vanitas? They should be with the "Main Antagonist", right?}} |
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| | {{Randomnessity|isa=And like I mentioned before, the Keyblade Graveyard. Its name is confirmed.}} |
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| | == Featured user list == |
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| | {{Randomnessity|isa=I just wanted to point out that I have more edits than [[User:Super Sword-chucks|SSC]]. Shouldn't I replace him on the list?}} |
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| | {{Xion4ever|time=02:27, January 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=It takes the Community List about a day to refresh itself. Give it a day or two and the list will update.}} |
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| | {{Randomnessity|isa=That's what I figured. I was just making sure that was it.}} |
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| | == Nintendo Power == |
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| | {{NitrousX|text=Should the awards that KH Days just won (The Nintendo Power Awards) be in the "Roxas's Diary" section?? I think they should.}} |
| | {{Falcon|text=Nitrous, the editor on Roxas's Diary (DoorToNothing) left to wiki as so not to get spoiled on BbS. I left a message on DTN's talk page but I don't think he's gonna see it very soon...=p Who else can change Roxas's Diary?}} |
| | {{Xabryn|text=Any registered user can edit the page and i agree with you Nitrous it should be on the page}} |
| | {{Xion4ever|time=00:42, February 12, 2010 (UTC)|text=Wrong, Xabryn. Only staff members can edit Roxas' Diary. But Nitrous, why not ask on a forum?}} |
| | {{Xabryn|text=i'm not sure about it but i think that it is possible if you go on "edit this page" there is a part of NEWS SECTION i'm pretty sure it is the roxas's diary}} |
| | {{DTN|time=06:29, February 14, 2010 (UTC)|text=What Xion4ever is trying to saying is that only [[Kingdom Hearts Wiki:Staff|staff members]] ''should'' edit Roxas's Diary. Yes, you can technically edit it, but you are not supposed to add entires to it, or revise any of the posts to the extent of any more than fixing a typo. |
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| | Until I can see official confirmation that ''Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days'' won any awards from Nintendo Power's readers or Nintendo Power, I am not going to add this to Roxas's Diary. There is currently no official confirmation that the game won any awards from Nintendo Power, and a user's (or users') word is not at all confirmation. If any screenshots of the magazine can prove this, or if the results have posted on any site on the web, please leave me the link so that I may make this addition to Roxas's Diary.}} |
| | {{Falcon|text=I just uploaded the '''proof''' that Days won every award!! This should be the page: File:Nintendo Power Award Results 2009.jpg(I tried to put the link, but it came out '''HUGE'''. Can anyone tell me how to put the link in without it coming out huge?)}} |
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| | {{Xion4ever|time=22:13, February 14, 2010 (UTC)|text=@ DTN: TNE? I believe you are mistaken, look at that message again. ^^ However, TNE and I share Aqua as our talk templates. Differences be the images, some colors, quotes, and the skinny types.}} |
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| | I guess this is the proof that Falcon is talking about:[[File:Nintendo Power Award Results 2009.jpg|thumb]]--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 16:35, February 16, 2010 (UTC) |
| | {{Falcon|text=Yep, that's it. Thanks for putting it up Xabryn. DTN, will you change Roxas's Diary now?}} |
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| | == Days World location names == |
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| | Please use [[User talk:KrytenKoro/Items]] to add to the world articles. Thanks![[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 15:58, March 24, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | == One winged Angel == |
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| | For some reason I believe that there should be an article about the popular theme played when facing Sephiroth. It is recognisable, and one of the most popular pieces of video game music known. But I have this strong feeling that most people disagree.([[User:Bananaphone1996|Bananaphone1996]] 05:43, April 18, 2010 (UTC)) |
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| | I would have to agree with this. The name technically is based off the track. |
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| | EDIT: My mistake, I thought you were talking about the Keyblade. So I'll have to disagree. [[User:Maggosh|Maggosh]] 05:46, April 18, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | Creating that article would be a waste of time. The only songs we have articles on are the ones who play a strong signifigance in the series, such as [[Simple and Clean]], [[Sanctuary]], and the Atlantica songs.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 15:37, April 18, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | I can't find an article about Kingdom hearts, not kingdom hearts the game or title, but the actual kingdom hearts. Is there any redirects or anything to help find it?[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 19:30, April 23, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :If you mean the world, then [[Kingdom Hearts (world)|this]] is the article. Otherwise, see the disambiguation page [[Kingdom Hearts (disambiguation)|here]]. {{Dan da Man36|1}} 19:36, April 23, 2010 (UTC) |
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| Can Anyone Post the batte music "Working Together" From Birth By Sleep? Not the Kingdom Hearts II Version.
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| | oh geez, no wonder i couldn't find it. kingdom hearts isn't a world. its just a stage, kingdom hearts can be used to make a new world.[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 19:40, April 23, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | == Dimension Link == |
| I found this on youtube... is it good??
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| http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFlxdwuUedE
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| {{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=15:59, 2 April 2014 (UTC)|text=It took a little while to find, but the user who originally made the request, [[User:Kingdom210]], appears to have been inactive for the last two years.}}
| | Can You Add Pictures of The D-Link Icons "The Characters Faces and The 2 Symbols" That Show Up When You Use Them and When you Go To The D-Link Menu? |
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| == No KH3, fansites mistranslated again: == | | == Cleanup of the Month == |
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| '''''Game Informer'' 207''';
| | Alright, the ''Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days'' weapon articles have really improved; all that is left is for a few of us to go through and add the rest of the "Gameplay" sections, and for the last of those arrowgun images. Since this means we should be changing it again, I'll open up this Forum for the administrators to discuss what the next "Cleanup of the Month" should be, similar to [[Forum:Featured Articles|how we choose featured articles]]. See you [[Forum:Cleanup of the Month|there]]! --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 20:59, May 26, 2010 (UTC) |
| *'''Bryan Vore''': "Translations of your interview in the ''Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep Ultimania'' seem to confirm that Kingdom Hearts III is coming along with two other games."
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| *'''Tetsuya Nomura''': "Kingdom Hearts III is not a confirmed titles. I actually phrased my answer for the Ultimania "two titles other than III" to avoid speculation that we were working on Kingdom Hearts III."
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| *'''Bryan Vore''': "Are there any hints you can provide about these games?"
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| *'''Tetsuya Nomura''': "Hints would give away too much, and for Kingdom Hearts we're contractually obligated to keep any information that has not been officially released under wraps. However, I can say one of the two projects mentioned above came into existence because we wanted to do something for the North American fans, so we'll be announcing it at E3."
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| ==RE: your galleries==
| | Whats Kingdom hearts 3 going to be about? Sora already destroyed kingdom hearts i thought |
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| | == KH BBS Official Site NA == |
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| The galleries are normal. As you may or may not know, they really messed up the galleries, causing a lot of frustration and anger. See: | | Guess What Guys, The Offical NA Site for BbS Has Been Updated Check it Out. You May Also Wanna Check Out The Gameplay, It Has English Gameplay Of the Characters. Also we Here The English Voices of Terra, Aqua & Ventus. |
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| :I checked with the custom CSSs and KHWiki do not have one. Everyone else who's dissatisfied can check and see one of the example pages, because Wikia seems to have overlook this.
| | ==Is it me or are we all facing the same problem ?== |
| | Monaco.css is showing blue, except for the homepage and logo, which are red. We haven't switched to the BBS theme yet, have we ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 12:49, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
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| :I wish to highlight that one of the Wikis, the Kingdom Hearts Wiki apparently managed to keep their old Wikipedia-style Gallery intact. How can they not be affected?
| | This has been happening to me for a while now. I know that DTN and KKD were experiencing the same problem as well... {{Dan da Man36|1}} 12:54, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :Okay, I'm seeing blue again. But today is the first day this has happened. I know the same problem has happened over Kingdom Hearts Fanon Wiki - all of us set Monaco to Jade (the green one, to fit the logo), but till now we're still seeing blue. |
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| So how did you all doe this ? I would be dying to know because I despise the new galleries too. Please message me on my talk page with a response, or let me know when you responded here. Thank you. [[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] 01:01, July 25, 2010 (UTC)
| | :Think we should ping Wikia Central and/or the staff ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}}} 12:58, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | ::Hmm... This definitely isn't the first time it's happened to me, and I have a screenshot to prove it: [http://s798.photobucket.com/albums/yy267/Dan_da_Man36/Picture1.gif] I'm not overly sure what the date was, but I think I printscreened it on the same date that ENX posted [[User talk:KrytenKoro/Archive 6#BBS Remodel?|this]]. {{Dan da Man36|1}} 13:11, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :Ah that, yes. But all this while I was actually seeing the red theme..... and I thought that this problem only existed on KHF until today. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 13:15, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | Its happened to me loads of times too. [[User:Organization 13|Organization 13]] 13:15, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :Oh noes... I think this calls for a ping to Wikia Central. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 13:22, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | ::While we're on the subject of wiki problems, the wiki is taking ages to load for me, and it occasionally just stops working and displays a blank page, so maybe wikia is up to something? {{Dan da Man36|1}} 13:25, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :As for that, that happens to me once in every three weeks or so... I'm not sure why. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 13:30, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | ::That stuff never happens to me. But then again, I use Monobook (I'm so old school >.>), so yeah. The wiki is actually one of the fastest loading sites for me. {{SC/Sig|13:34, June 5, 2010 (UTC)}} |
| | :You're using Monobook ? So that means only Monaco's giving problems. But that's the skin almost everyone uses. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 13:47, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | ::Yep, I use Monobook. It usually Is Monaco. That means we should all switch to Monobook <.< {{SC/Sig|13:50, June 5, 2010 (UTC)}} |
| | :I know, but if we were to switch to Monobook, then what will become of our layouts ? We need to ask Kryten or anyone with access to the CSS page if it can be changed. {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 13:57, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | ::Methinks we should just make Monobook layouts then, if possible. If not, oh well. You get used to it. {{SC/Sig|14:04, June 5, 2010 (UTC)}} |
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| {{Organization 13|inquisitive=Shouldn't there also be the Facebook symbol on the main page too because we have a page there too? http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=143194599040436&ref=ts.}} | | I've noticed that when the place goes blue it messes up the Heartless templates on the Heartless pages. [[User:Organization 13|Organization 13]] 14:06, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :Wait, that's for Monobook or Monaco ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 14:12, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | ::Monobook never screws up. He meant Monaco. {{SC/Sig|14:14, June 5, 2010 (UTC)}} |
| | :Yeah, none of the tabs work when the Monaco turns blue, and the game templates appear at the top left, not the top right. {{Dan da Man36|1}} 14:20, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | So now, we make Monobook skins and compel everyone to use Monobook ?? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 15:32, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :I don't know, I just want a Monobook theme :P But seriously, we shouldn't force people to do a certain theme. The point of the themes is unique customization; just contact Wikia Central, I'm sure they'll get on it. This happens in the FF Wiki too, so it's definetely <small>Spell fail DX</small> not just this wiki. {{SC/Sig|15:56, June 5, 2010 (UTC)}} |
| | Apparently, from what I hear, the new BBS theme which Xiggie designed should be compatible for Monobook (Bluerfn is using it, I think). But for now... since I'm signing out, can someone ping Wikia Central ? Please ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 16:07, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :Sounds great. I don't know how, so not me :/ {{SC/Sig|16:10, June 5, 2010 (UTC)}} |
| | ::I'll try, and I'll link them to this page. {{Dan da Man36|1}} 16:43, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
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| Hello? {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 15:02, September 26, 2010 (UTC)
| | :Yes, this appears to happen often. I get it about every 36th page (I was bored so I counted) refreshing usually fixes it for me. {{The Inexistentsig}} |
| | ::Okay, I've sent them an email with screenshots and a link back here. Hopefully, they'll reply soon. =) {{Dan da Man36|1}} 17:00, June 5, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :::The same problems have been happening on other wikis I've been on, I wonder if this is wiki-wide...I first used Monobook, but I couldn't access all the wiki trinkets.{{AurorSig}} |
| | :Thanks Dan ! |
| | :In the meantime, let's hope they reply...... {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 02:23, June 6, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | ::I have the relpy!: |
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| What about this? Can someone attach it onto the page? (with permission, of course)
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| | ::We are currently working on fixing an intermittent server problem that is causing malformed CSS to be sent to your browser, causing a wiki's custom CSS to be ignored. It is only a temporary problem. Nothing needs to be changed on the wiki. Please be patient while we fix this. |
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| Helloooooo? {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 16:04, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
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| Doesn't it say at the top of the page "share this article" with a facebook icon next to it? --[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']] 16:29, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
| | ::Chris "Uberfuzzy" Stafford |
| | ::Wikia Community Support Team" {{Dan da Man36|1}} 10:36, June 6, 2010 (UTC) |
| | Alright ! I hope it won't be a long wait. ^_^ {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 10:37, June 6, 2010 (UTC) |
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| Beside the twitter and freenode symbol, the share the article is only for the page to be shown on your Facebook profile. {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 17:41, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
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| | Guess What Guys, I Discoverd That Phil Snyder, Known as the Man of a Million Voices, Has Comfirmed To Do The Voice of Jiminy Cricket. Plus, He's Voicing the Character in the english version of Kingdom Hearts: Coded for the first time. Also, Kingdom Hearts: Coded is being Released in NA Under The Remake title, Kingdom Hearts Recoded. --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 09:49, June 6, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :Wait, just where did you get that information ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 09:53, June 6, 2010 (UTC) |
| | From Phil's Official Site, PHILSNYDER.net |
| | :Alright. I'm getting there. If the reference is pretty obvious, I'll put it as a cite note. Do note that if it's not obvious enough, we're taking that bit of information down (for now). And what about the bit on Recoded ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 09:59, June 6, 2010 (UTC) |
| | It's True, Go Check it Out. |
| | :As long as you can provide me a source, I won't doubt its truth. I'm asking you again, where did you get the bit on Recoded ? {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 10:02, June 6, 2010 (UTC) |
| | I'm Saying Go to His Site! Again, PHILSnyder.net. |
| | :Okay. I'm there. Internet's lagging, I can't get there. Yet, the Bing search results say it loud and clear. Can anyone please check the URL out for me and put the cite note in, AND DO NOT UNDO KINGDOM210'S EDIT PLEASE ! {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 10:07, June 6, 2010 (UTC) |
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| I just mean shouldn't we add the facebook symbol beside the microphone on the main page beacause we do have a facebook page? {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 21:01, October 4, 2010 (UTC) | | :EDIT 10:11, June 6, 2010 (UTC) : Done. Thanks for the ref. I put it in. Anymore sources on Recoded, please let us know. ^_^ {{User:Troisnyxetienne/Signature}} 10:11, June 6, 2010 (UTC) |
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| {{Grimreaper10000|time=04:48, October 3, 2010 (UTC)|text=It's already the third of the month, and there's no new Article of the Month. Did...someone just forget or something...? I cast my vote in for Xehanort...}}
| | I've made a new World infobox that combines many of the sub templates we've been using (I.e., the world directory and World Music templates), as well as the various world and logo images, and the IL links. You can see it in use at [[Traverse Town]] and [[Hollow Bastion]].[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 00:47, June 7, 2010 (UTC) |
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| Im sorry Kingdom Hearts Wiki, but this new look is anoying and confusing, if you please.... CHANGE IT BACK!!!
| | I found interesting the fact that all kingdoms hearts (except coded) feature 2 male protagonists and one female protagonist. I wonder if we could work with that somehow. [[User_talk:BGMaxie|BGMaxie]] |
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| Wikia changed it. We did nothing. [[File:Haste KHBBS.png]][[User:Pea14733|<font face="Segoe UI" color=deepskyblue size=2><b><sup>==</sup>Pea</b></font>]][[User_talk:Pea14733|<font face="Segoe UI" color=lawngreen size=2><b>14733<sub>==</sub></b></font>]][[File:Auto-Counter KHBBS.png]] 07:51, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
| | {{AZ|time=01:09, June 7, 2010 (UTC)|text= What do you mean by work with that?}} |
| | :CoM? Unless you mean Namine, who is an antagonist in the early game. Or KHII, in which you have a whole mess of male protagonists, and then Kairi doing about zip s***.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 01:10, June 7, 2010 (UTC) |
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| Well then Wikia change it back!!!
| | And the youngest male protagonist (Sora, Roxas, Ventus) is the hero. The oldest (Riku, Axel, Terra) is the anti-hero, by choice or not. The gal (Kairi, Xion, Aqua) is... well... idk. There's a shit pot load of that in anime. [[User:Clarkmaster|CLARKMASTER!]] 01:26, June 7, 2010 (UTC) |
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| If you read the forum with all the cursing symbols in it's name, and when i say in its name i maean ''as'' it's name, you'll find that we've been trying to convince them to do just that, but they just don't wanna listen to us. and please sign your posts--[[User:ShadowsTwilight|'''<span style="color:#000000">Shadows</span>''']][[User talk:ShadowsTwilight|'''<span style="color:#505050">Twilight</span>''']][[File:Χ-blade (Incomplete) KHBBS.png|50px]] 06:06, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Command Board updating== | | {{AZ|time=01:09, June 7, 2010 (UTC)|text= Ok well i'm still wondering what you mean by work with that but if you havent noticed that is a somewhat common situation in anime, manga, and video game and a pretty common pattern. I mean even in Final Fantasy. The group there (even if not all together) was Zack, Aerith, and Cloud. Then Zack died Cloud met Aerith, she died then he met Tifa blah blah blah. So its a pretty common thing. Prime example NARUTO XD.}} |
| Yeah guys, all of the Heartless contained in the box have been updated accordingly. They need to be replaced with more articles in need of repair. I wasn't sure if I was allowed to do this without a staff member... so... yeah. Have fun. {{The Inexistentsig}}
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| | I mean how can we make this info useful in some way. Then again yeah.....you got a poin there :S [[User_talk:BGMaxie|BGMaxie]] |
| Now that KHW has a YT page, should we link it to the main page ? Also bringing up the reminder about the Facebook group — it'd be great if we could edit just that section of the main page. <sup>'''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#8B0000">Tambours</font>]]'''</sup><sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#B8860B">Tonnerre</font>]]'''</sub> '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#000000">Ensemble !</font>]]''' 08:11, 10 February 2011 (EST)
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| ==News== | | {{AZ|time=01:09, June 7, 2010 (UTC)|text= Actually i dont think we can. Its too much of a common pattern to be useful. On the other hand its already seemed to be established that Ven is to Sora Terre is to Riku and Aqua is to Kiari but there's not much else we can use with the whole situation. Like i said its common thing in anime etc. and i noticed that Nomura likes to use the pattern as soon as he introduced the Roxas, Axel, and Xion team. He just had to incorporate a girl in there somewhere. And then when it became a Ventus, Aqua, Terra situation well then i was like "Ok then he likes boy girl boy" I guess its just a generic thing in most anime etc. The only thing that veered off that path that i like is Soul Eater. Another good example if you know what it is. Full Metal Alchemist. Ed, Al, and Winry. In fact Winry's JP VA is the same as Aqua's. . .}} |
| I think our breaking off from Wikia has earned a mention on the news section on thi Wiki and the Wikia one. There should also definitely be a link on the Wikia-Wiki to this address. If we want thisWiki to get more traffic we need it to be more prominent on the original location.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}15:30, 12 February 2011 (EST)
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| :I didn't notice the move until now. Until today, I thought that this wiki still was based on Wikia, and I see that several people have been editing there, possibly not knowing anything about the move. Wouldn't there be some way to get people to find this site from the old Wikia site?
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| :For example, you could copy new sections of certain important articles from this site to the Wikia site. According to the Creative Commons licence, this requires attribution of the source of the relevant section (with a link to a page where the article history can be located), so you get a reason to include a link to this site. This link would have to go to the corresponding article on this site, so contributors might notice that the formulations are almost the same, realising that this is where to look instead.
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| :It would also be nice if this would get people to go away from that annoying Wikia site. I had to add a bookmark to my bookmark toolbar appending '?useskin=monobook' (or '&useskin=monobook' depending on the URL) to the current data in the location bar just in order to read that site! --[[Special:Contributions/212.247.11.156|212.247.11.156]] 23:07, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
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| ::We actually can't advertise this site on the wikia site, as the people who own the wikia site (wikia) would erase that and ban anyone who put it up. The most we can do is put links to this site on the userpages of the people who've left the old site, which we've done.
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| ::Copying the content over to the old site would just make the old site easier to find on google, because of how it's algorithms work. On the long haul, it's better for us to just keep making high-quality, unique content so that we appear higher on google searches.
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| ::Yeah, we know, Oasis sucks.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:32, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
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| Now that the Nominations are up and running and the Battle Box vote has started, shouldn't we post a link to them on the main page? {{User:As_if!/Autosig}} 15:57, 12 February 2011 (EST)
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| {{ErryTalk|time=15:02, 23 February 2011 (EST)|saix=I see no problems with the yellow. I can read everything perfectly.}}
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| {{KrytenKoro|Erry, could you help him set up personal css so that it's blue again?}}
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| {{LightRoxas|tron=Actually I think it was just the computer that I was on, on my personal rig I can read everything just fine. Nevermind.}}
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| | I know this is old but in FMA the Scar JP VA is Terra.--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 21:43, August 13, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman |
| <s>Hey, sry if I'm in the wrong section, I want to ask you about a partnership with the [http://de.kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_Wikigerman KH-Wiki]. It's ok if you aren't interested in anything like this, just wanted to ask you, though. Just in case I'm one of the leading administrators. Greetings [[User:Sum2k3|Sum2k3]] 14:28, 19 March 2011 (EDT)</s> Ok, i was in the wrong section.. also partnership sounds a bit wrong. xD I found the right corner to ask about affiliation. [[User:Sum2k3|Sum2k3]] 04:02, 20 March 2011 (EDT)
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| ==Interviews== | | == Mysterious Tower Battle Music BBS == |
| So, mainly spurred by EnglishJoker going around checking our unsourced statements, I went through KHInsider's archives and got links to every interview I could find (excluding a few repetitive ones). I figure it's easier to have a shortlist here rather than having to do this every time we need a source. Most involve fluff we already know now or development things, but I have them for the sake of completedness. So... here:
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| '''"The Birth of Kingdom Hearts"'''
| | Can Anyone Post the batte music "Working Together" From Birth By Sleep? Not the Kingdom Hearts II Version. |
| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/363/1/]
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| *Very brief interview with some information about when Nomura began development on the KH concept.
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| '''The Birth by sleep ending video'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/388/1/]
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| *Wide variety of information, mostly relating to the secret ending video of KHIIFM, and the then-recently named characters; Terra, Aqua, and Ven.
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| '''The tone of the Kingdom Hearts series'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/446/1/]
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| *Again, only a very brief mention of KH, but Nomura notes the difference in tone between KH and FF (the latter is darker than the former), and may indicate the somewhat darker tone Days and BBS took.
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| '''The side stories of Kingdom Hearts'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/450/1/]
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| *Generally nothing new except for some tidbits of developmental information, except for one part where Nomura describes the then-untold “side stories” that don’t focus on Sora, including the BBS video, Mickey finding the Kingdom Key D, Roxas’ life, and Riku activity during Sora’s slumber.
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| '''Days, coded, and BBS, post-reveal'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/507/1/]
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/508/1/]
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| *Simple interviews with Nomura not long after BBS, Days, and coded were revealed.
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| '''Nomura talks Kingdom Hearts'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/514/1/]
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| *General stuff about the series, particularly BBS, coded, and Days.
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| '''Days and coded gameplay'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/522/1/]
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| *A brief interview discussing some gameplay for Days and coded.
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| '''BBS, Days, and coded'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/526/1/]
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| *Three sizeable interviews about BBS, Days, and coded, covering a wide array of topics about them.
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| '''More BBS, Days, and coded'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/677/1/]
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| *A bit less info than the above interviews, but Nomura talks about the “Unbirths” and seems to make a direct reference to the “born” part of their names. Weird.
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| '''Tidbits of BBS, Days, and coded'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/683/1/]
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| *Tiny interviews about the three games.
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| '''BBS, Days, and coded, take two'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/limit,5/limitstart,695/]
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| *Contains another set of fairly large interviews about the games.
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| '''New trailers and interviews'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/713/1/]
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| *Contains brief interviews about Nomura talking about the then-recently released trailers for the three games.
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| '''New trailers and interviews… again'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/731/1/]
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| *Same as the above.
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| '''Three games, three developers, three interviews'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/751/1/]
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| *Nomura and two other developers are interviewed.
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| '''Nomura, no answers'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/limit,5/limitstart,635/]
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| *Contains a brief interview where Nomura doesn’t really reveal anything new.
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| '''Nomura and Hasagawa'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/limit,5/limitstart,605/]
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| *Contains part of an interview with Nomura and Hasagawa about the development of Days.
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| '''Long gameplay… interview?'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/843/1/]
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| *Contains a long bit of info about Days’ gameplay. KHInsider says it’s an interview, but either they’re talking about the link to Heartstation I’m too lazy to follow or I’m just not seeing the interview part. Including it for safety.
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| '''Long, missing Ultimania interviews'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/days/ultimania-interview.html]
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/days-ultimania/358-2-days-scenario-interview.html]
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| *Should contain a long interview about BBS and coded, but the links display 404 errors.
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| '''How coded connects'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/limit,5/limitstart,560/]
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| *Contains a brief interview about the three games, and comments on how coded links up to the rest of the series.
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| '''Big Days interview'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/handheld-entries/130181-latest-famitsu-interview-tetsuya-nomura.html]
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/130683-new-famitsu-interview.html]
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/131142-famitsu-nomura-interview-pt-3-a.html]
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| *A big interview about things relating to the Organization and Days. No, Nobodies don’t age.
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| '''Big BBS interview'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/133571-revised-translation-new-famitsu-interview.html]
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| *Equally large interview about BBS with a lot of info. Including the official name of the Unversed.
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| '''Interview with Yasue'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/135111-new-famitsu-scans-translations-dwarf-woodlands-neverland-final.html]
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| *Interview with co-director Yasue about BBS.
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| '''Interview with Nomura and Yasue'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/135592-famitsu-psp-ps3-special-interview.html]
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| *Interview with Nomura and Yasue about BBS.
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| '''Nomura’s opinions on BBS'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/limit,5/limitstart,355/]
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| *Contains a brief interview with Nomura, which is mostly his opinions about BBS.
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| '''Nomura on BBS again'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/1263/1/]
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| *More of Nomura discussing BBS, particularly emphasizing how important Braig/Xigbar is in the series.
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| '''Another missing Ultimania interview'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/khinsider/famitsu-interview-nomura-new.html]
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| *Should contain another Ultimania interview, but instead I get another 404 error.
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| '''Yet another BBS interview'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/limit,5/limitstart,340/]
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| *Contains what I said.
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| '''Interview with other developers'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/handheld-entries/145236-famitsu-interview-bbs-developers-feb-25-issue.html]
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| *Two developers, a rare interview devoid of Nomura, discuss the development of BBS.
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| '''Post-BBS interview'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/1337/1/]
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| *Nomura talks about the steps leading up to KHIII and hints at another game after BBS and coded, and ends by making me want to throw rocks at him for not telling us anything.
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| '''Massive BBS interview'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/handheld-entries/145648-new-interview-rebirth-wings-need-translation-4.html]
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/handheld-entries/145648-new-interview-rebirth-wings-need-translation-3.html]
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| *Massive interview about some new revelations made in BBS.
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| '''Non-Nomura coded interview'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/handheld-entries/146082-otona-fami-interview-jun-kato.html]
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| *Jun Kato discusses the development of coded and hints at it being released for systems other than phones.
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| '''Nomura, yes answers'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/handheld-entries/147009-bbs-ultimania-plot-mysteries-nomura-interview.html]
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| *Large interview with Nomura actually directly answering plot questions for once, mostly relating to BBS and questions it raised.
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| '''Lots and lots of answers'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/147012-ultimania-full-nomura-interview.html#post4951174]
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| *More of the above, but much larger and answering more questions.
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| '''Nomura is a lying liar'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/150215-new-nomura-interview.html]
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| *Short interview about BBS where Nomura comments that there won’t be a game based on the Keyblade War. But he also says that there wouldn’t be a BBSFM, so we know how good his promises are…
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| '''Another short interview'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/150271-gamespot-e3-noruma-interview.html]
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| *Mostly about BBS and a bit about 3D development.
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| '''3D, coded, and Pixar'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/limit,5/limitstart,260/]
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| *Contains brief info about 3D, coded, and Nomura’s interest in bringing in Pixar characters in the future.
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| '''BBS and Re:coded'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/151133-new-degenki-interview.html#post5144428]
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| *Nomura talks about the changes to the English version of BBS and Re:coded.
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| '''BBS development and design'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/content/view/1580/1/]
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| *Nomura talks about the development and design decisions behind BBS.
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| '''Nomura talks 3D'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/152336-nomura-interview-fully-translated.html]
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| *Short interview with Nomura giving a few details about KH3D’s story and whatnot.
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| '''Nomura talks BBS development'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/handheld-entries/154006-making-kingdom-hearts-birth-sleep-few-words-director.html]
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| *Short interview where Nomura talks about why he made some development choices in BBS, like including Zack or some of the worlds.
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| '''Nomura talks 3D'''
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/limit,5/limitstart,125/]
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| *Contains a brief Youtube of Nomura talking about 3DS.
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| '''Nomura talks Re: coded development'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/156697-famitsu-interview-list-ultimania-content-bbs-fm-preorders-available.html]
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| *Short interview about Re: coded.
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| '''Nomura talks 3D and BBSFM'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/157105-new-interview-about-3d-bbs-fm-update-scan-not-tranlasted.html]
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/157115-full-nomura-interview-18-11-10-a.html]
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| *Fairly large interview with Nomura discussing KH3D & BBSFM.
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| '''Re: coded mysteries'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/157135-re-coded-ultimania-scenario-mysteries-interview-translated.html]
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/157182-re-coded-ultimania-director-interview.html]
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| *Interview with Nomura about Re: coded and the questions it raised.
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| '''3D interview'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/157205-nintendo-power-nomura-interview.html]
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| *A brief interview about the future of KH.
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| '''BBSFM interview'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/handheld-entries/158621-new-degenki-nom-chan-interview-about-bbsfm-translated.html]
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| *Short interview about the changes to BBSFM from the English BBS.
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| '''Wardrobe change in 3D'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/159338-kingdom-hearts-3d-sora-riku-see-clothing-changes.html#post5426667]
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| *Very brief tidbit about Nomura looking into Sora and Riku’s outfits changing.
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| '''Yoko Shimomura interview'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/handheld-entries/159791-interview-yoko-shimomura-bbs-coded-days-soundtrack-translations-added.html]
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/kingdom-hearts-series/162308-shimomura-interviewed-nintendo-power-talks-kingdom-hearts-music.html]
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| *Change of pace with Shimomura talking about the music.
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| '''20 Mysteries of KH'''
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| [http://forums.khinsider.com/handheld-entries/147019-20-kh-mysteries-solved-sort.html]
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| *Don't think I found this one earlier. It's the one dealing with the origin of Xemnas, the Org., etc.
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| --{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}09:21, 13 July 2011 (EDT)
| | == Trinity Report == |
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| | Can Someone here Post the Entire Trinity Report, Also Post it On YouTube? I Wanna Se All of it. Characters, Unversed, Treasure Chests, Ect. --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 13:54, June 12, 2010 (UTC) |
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| Hey guys, sorry If I am out of place here; but I was wondering if someone could add a SEIWA area to the front page? Thank you for your time, [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 01:36, 9 November 2011 (UTC).
| | == Kingdom Hearts III == |
| :Hmm... let me see what I can do.
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| :Also, in the NIWA wikis, the logo's color is changed to match each wiki's overall color scheme. Would anyone object to me doing the same here? --{{User:As if!/Autosig}} 23:52, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
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| ::By chance, do you mean how some NIWA wiki's have the NIWA logo, [http://media.gamewiki.com/metroidwiki/images/thumb/9/9c/NIWALogo.png/220px-NIWALogo.png like so]?
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| :::Like, in some places it's red while in others it's blue or green or pink in order to match that wiki's theme. --{{User:As if!/Autosig}} 02:10, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::Ah, yeah. Minor cosmetic changes would probably be fine. So long as it is simple like a color change or something. ;). [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 17:29, 10 November 2011 (UTC).
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| So, where can I find the crown image used as the website logo:
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| | I got a feeling it will be announced on E3. What do you think? |
| :Hold on, I'll go get the Hi-res version {{User:Erry/Sig}} 02:41, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
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| ::Here: http://i40.tinypic.com/5nu979.png {{User:Erry/Sig}} 02:45, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
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| :::Look's good.... especially the High-Def Vision. Also, was that a question? [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 20:32, 11 November 2011 (UTC).
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| ::::Can someone with coding knowledge put [[Template:SEIWA|the template]] onto the main page so that it looks like [http://goldensunwiki.net/Main_Page this]? --{{User:As if!/Autosig}} 01:02, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::I tried, but the template's coding conflicts with whatever I try. The template's content goes outside my divs, even though it isn't supposed to. --<span style="font-weight: bold">[[User:Sove|<span style="color: #00FF7F">So</span>]][[User talk:Sove|<span style="color: #00FF00">ve</span>]]</span> 01:33, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
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| ::::::Will that work? if not, feel free to change it, [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 02:23, 12 November 2011 (UTC).
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| :::::::It would look better if it was directly under the Helping out box, but something in the template screws it up when I try to place it there. --<span style="font-weight: bold">[[User:Sove|<span style="color: #00FF7F">So</span>]][[User talk:Sove|<span style="color: #00FF00">ve</span>]]</span> 02:27, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
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| :::::::Ok, changed. [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 02:38, 12 November 2011 (UTC).
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| | *'''Bryan Vore''': "Translations of your interview in the ''Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep Ultimania'' seem to confirm that Kingdom Hearts III is coming along with two other games." |
| | *'''Tetsuya Nomura''': "Kingdom Hearts III is not a confirmed titles. I actually phrased my answer for the Ultimania "two titles other than III" to avoid speculation that we were working on Kingdom Hearts III." |
| | *'''Bryan Vore''': "Are there any hints you can provide about these games?" |
| | *'''Tetsuya Nomura''': "Hints would give away too much, and for Kingdom Hearts we're contractually obligated to keep any information that has not been officially released under wraps. However, I can say one of the two projects mentioned above came into existence because we wanted to do something for the North American fans, so we'll be announcing it at E3." |
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| I have an option for affiliate that we need to discuss whether we should pursue, so all staff, please show up on the IRC today.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:07, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
| | [[Video:Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep: E3 2010 English Trailer - HD|thumb|300px|right]] Hey Guys, The Official English Trailer Of BbS Is Now Online! Check It Out. --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 11:34, June 15, 2010 (UTC) |
| | I Heard the Voices in The Trailer, Go Check It Out. --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 11:53, June 15, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | Wow, is that Haley doing Vanita's voice? It sure doesn't sound like him, if it is. --[[User:Gypseian|Gypseian]] 03:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC) |
| hello im viper i am a lets player on youtube i am currently doing an lp on kingdom hearts and i am wondering if i could be affiliated with you guys i have a link to this wiki on my channel and ill put the link in the video descriptions as well please message me back with an answer thnaks! :)--{{unsigned|Viper5787}}
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| First, please remember to sign your posts. And secondly, what's a LP? A playthrough?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:30, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
| | Check Out The Official BBS VA Discussion in the Kingdom Hearts Insider Forums. --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 19:48, June 18, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :Why?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 21:04, June 18, 2010 (UTC) |
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| an LP means Lets Play what a lets play is its a playtrough/walktrough --[[User:Viper5787|Viper5787]] ([[User talk:Viper5787|talk]]) 02:36, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
| | Because It Shows The New Confirmed Actors. --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 21:10, June 18, 2010 (UTC) |
| :I mean, if they're going to put a link in NOT ONLY their channel page, but ALSO the video descriptions we should FULL WELL accept this affiliation. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 02:43, 24 October 2012 (UTC) | | :I checked it, but the only names it has that we don't, it doesn't have sources for. It's just the same "it totally sounds like him!" nonsense that we've had to protect pages to avoid.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 21:19, June 18, 2010 (UTC) |
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| what are the chances of me actually getting affiliated? --[[User:Viper5787|Viper5787]] ([[User talk:Viper5787|talk]]) 02:54, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
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| :Well considering the fact that your proposed LP will feature a link to the wiki on EACH video, along with your page. That adds more to the chances. I'd say you're 90% clear (I only say 90% because other staff need to input as well). {{User:Erry/Sig}} 04:46, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
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| So what do i do about getting affiliated? is there someone i ask for this or no?--[[User:Viper5787|Viper5787]] ([[User talk:Viper5787|talk]]) 03:32, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
| | {{One-Winged Angel|time=18:39 June 18, 2010|fur=So when are we going to add it to the sidebar?}} |
| | {{EO|time=01:52, June 19, 2010 (UTC)|text=Same time we add KH3D, Master Xehanort, Vanitas, and Master Eraqus. What do these all have in common with this game? It will be added whenever a staff member is able.}} |
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| | {{EO|time=01:54, June 21, 2010 (UTC)|hooded=So I see we've finally switched to our BBS theme! That's brilliant. Now there are still some things left over from out ''Days'' theme that I'd like to nominate we change: |
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| | *"Roxas's Diary" to "Trinity Report", the journal-type system seen in BBS |
| {{KrytenKoro|Also the fact that shutting down to make a political statement is completely at odds with our mission statement, and that unlike wikipedia, we have absolutely no risk from SOPA, as both our material and sources are fair use.
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| :Search for khwiki.net--{{User:Dark-EnigmaXIII/Sig}} 17:06, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
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| | Hey Everyone, Gamespot Released A New Trailer of Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep! --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 20:23, July 19, 2010 (UTC) |
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| :To clarify: these are official KH things and should be covered somewhere.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 07:21, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
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| | :It would be better to just link it to the Talk:Birth by Sleep page. We're trying to avoid videos as of now, I think. --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 02:00, July 20, 2010 (UTC) |
| I think they make a good addition to the page, at least until we ''finally'' decide to update it. I don't find them to be an eyesore. {{The Inexistentsig}} 19:03, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::::Then we should be using the bloody ''official'' renders! The ability to extract and animate a render from game coding has nothing whatsoever to do with professionalism. I don't care how "cool" the one of Xehanort holding a heart is to people. It just looks so weird the way we randomly plop them, of all characters, on the page. The renders should at least have relevance to the Wiki-theme, which is, in this case, ''KH3D''. If you're all so adamant on using Xehanort incarnations, why not just use Xemnas and Ansem, Seeker of Darkness? - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 19:35, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
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| | Sure we'd love to affiliate ourselves with you guys. Although our websites small, any help in getting the Dead Fantasy product out would be greatly appreciated.... |
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| :I'm sorry, this is off-topic, but...damn, how small ''is'' your monitor, ENX? [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 19:43, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
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| :::Part of what attracts me to the Xehanorts is that I haven't seen these renders a million times before. There's uniqueness to it, because most people don't have access to unofficial renders. Also, the pictures of Sora and Riku feel much too static. They just stand there, not doing anything; at the very least we could use their fighting poses. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 20:42, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
| | I've seen that on several pages for worlds, under their 'Enemies' sections, there's a category for 'Somebodies'. I have no problem calling the complete halves of Nobodies Somebodies (though I personally prefer calling them 'Others'), wouldn't it be better to refer to them as just 'Humans'? Just a suggestion, seems more accurate, especially since most don't have Nobodies. [[User:Phoenix of the Darkness|Phoenix of the Darkness]] 23:57, July 23, 2010 (UTC) |
| I'm not saying the render of Xehanort holding the heart isn't cool. It was excellently made. It's just not ''official'', and we promote the usage of ''official'' material here. It's been our policy to ''always'' use official images if we have them before turning to fan-made ones; this has always been the case with articles, and I see no reason why it should not hold true here. I guess I'm just against the random usage of Terranort, when you get right down to it. I don't see any logic behind it other than the fact that he's posed the same way Xehanort is. Personally, I'd prefer to maintain the ''KH3D'' theme or just leave Apprentice Xehanort on there alone without Terranort or a second character. For those interested in what it would look like, here's a model of the Wiki's main page using Sora and Riku's battle poses: | | :Scar's not a human. Nor are the Card Soldiers, Ursula, or 50% of the somebodies in the series.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 04:38, July 24, 2010 (UTC) |
| | ::Seems to me that this is just a term somebody made up. I'm for removing this category. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 01:08, July 25, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :::Actually, it is used more than once in the series (at least once by Axel). It's not a great term but it's the best official one we've got right now. [[Category talk:Somebody|Go here]] for more about this issue.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}01:28, July 25, 2010 (UTC) |
| | ::::Hm, okay. I must admit I'm not very familiar with all the side games as I don't have the consoles they're on. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 17:54, July 25, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :::::You should probably do research before declaring something to be made-up, but oh well.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 19:13, July 25, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Sora#Forms/Costumes |
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| #Without getting into too many spoilers, the current game (and saga) revolves almost totally around these characters and their actions. If we could replace Terra-Xehanort with Young Xehanort in a similar pose, that would be slightly more ideal.
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| #Using these images instead of Disney or Final Fantasy images highlights the franchise's ever-increasing focus on its own content and characters in favor of just crossovers, and on a second level, highlights our own community's amazing efforts and creations.
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| | The galleries are normal. As you may or may not know, they really messed up the galleries, causing a lot of frustration and anger. See: |
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| *I never agreed with the Wiki's merging Xehanort and Terra-Xehanort together with Terra-Xehanort being the main article (may be the source of some of my discomfort in terms of this). I saw the logic behind it, but I never supported/agreed with it, the same way I never supported/agreed with changing "Xehanort's Heartless" to "Ansem, Seeker of Darkness" or "Lingering Sentiment" to "Lingering Will." But I digress. The point is, I'm very unhappy with the usage of Terra-Xehanort, since that was only a ''Birth by Sleep''-relevant character. If you want something that applies to the whole series, than we may as well use characters who ''appear'' in the whole series or change the Wiki-theme to be relevant to the entire series rather than a single game. Thus I still suggest using the Young Xehanort render alone. This way, he's relevant to the Wiki-theme ''and'' still serves the same purpose as the Terra-Xehanort and Xehanort renders.
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| | :I checked with the custom CSSs and KHWiki do not have one. Everyone else who's dissatisfied can check and see one of the example pages, because Wikia seems to have overlook this. |
| :''Young Xehanort cannot be added as a replacement to Terra-Xehanort, or else one of the images would be pointing away from the welcome notice...''
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| :''If we could replace Terra-Xehanort with Young Xehanort in a '''similar pose''', that would be slightly more ideal.''
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| :[[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 14:41, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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| ::Y'know, maggosh, we could simply mirror Young Xehanort's image... {{User:Erry/Sig}} 19:04, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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| *ENX, the main page is already defined by our community creating a window into the KH universe. It's a simple fact that Square Enix hasn't produced a ton of "official art/text/coding for introducing the series to readers of a wiki", so a lot of creating that window is our own work (and seriously, it is ''really'' stretching it to call these fanart). We can't advertise that we're serious about the work if all we're doing is reposting the text and images from the games, instead of organizing them into some legible, cohesive body.
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| | :I wish to highlight that one of the Wikis, the Kingdom Hearts Wiki apparently managed to keep their old Wikipedia-style Gallery intact. How can they not be affected? |
| *My standpoint on the situation is simply this: Unless you ''know'' that the images are intended to draw one's attention to the welcome notice, they may as well ''be'' fluff added just for decorative purposes. The "turn lane sign and flowers by the side of the road" ''are'' the same when all the flowers do is make the turn lane sign look nice. If you actually want to emphasize the turn lane sign, then change the bloody sign itself! Don't just plant more flowers, because that's what sticks out. The flowers. Not the sign. Thus the images are fluff, and unofficial fluff at that (that's why I said I'd prefer official fluff over unofficial). Honestly, how many times do you see a "Welcome to <insert town name here>" sign and say "Ooo, what a pretty sign?" Plain and simple: You ''don't''! You compliment the pretty flowers or shrubbery growing ''around'' the sign, if you don't completely ignore the sign altogether, which most people do. The images have and adverse effect, at least for me: they draw all my attention to themselves, and not the welcome notice as intended.
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| | So how did you all doe this ? I would be dying to know because I despise the new galleries too. Please message me on my talk page with a response, or let me know when you responded here. Thank you. [[User:Anno1404|Anno1404]] 01:01, July 25, 2010 (UTC) |
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| 1. I'd say that there's a large difference between making a work of art from scratch and taking resources from in-game and posing them using a pose from in-game. The renders are basically just a fancy way of photoshopping a character out of the game. Regarding the crack about the "community", while the renders are not the work of the whole community, it shows that the wiki has a diverse collection of editors with a wide variety of skills. Aren't we ''supposed'' to flaunt the resources that we have, and the quality of our wiki? That's what makes people want to read it.
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| | Some of my edits regarding character home worlds were just reverted. I changed the home world of [[Santa Claus]] to Halloween Town (it was Christmas Town) and of [[Hades]] and [[Pain and Panic]] to Olympus Coliseum (it said Underworld). The reason is that Christmas Town and the Underworld are treated as areas of Halloween Town and the Olympus Coliseum, respectively. They are not worlds in themselves and as such should not be listed as home worlds on character pages (unless one would change "home world" to something that would encompass areas within worlds). The reverts were justified by stating that these are "parallel worlds, story wise", but this is original research [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:No_original_research]. I understand that it looks better aesthetically to list Hades's home world as the Underworld and Santa's as Christmas Town, but they're not worlds. |
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| | # They do not have their own section in Jiminy's Journal in ''KHII''. |
| | # They do not have their own logo (every world has an introductory scene where its logo is shown). |
| | # They and are not listed as worlds anywhere on this Wiki. |
| | # The menu still says "Olympus Coliseum" and "Halloween Town", respectively. |
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| | They may be seperate worlds in the films they originate from, but within the context of ''KH'' they are not (the Clock Tower in Neverland is another good example). |
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| I hate to be the one pointing this out, but I believe that the reason behind them being an "eyesore" to you, ENX, is due to your small screen resolution and web browser. IE improperly wraps the text, based upon the images provided. Even in my strange screen resolution (1366x786), the main page looks quite good. [http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab82/KRCCFNF/PorleEnX.png I see no problems.] {{The Inexistentsig}} 04:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
| | If you want to list Hades's home world as the Underworld, by that logic you might as well list Barbossa's home world as Isla de Muerta and Ursula's home world as Ursula's Grotto. |
| :Okay, how about we use [[User:Erry/Main Page|this]] then? If everyone is okay with it, that is. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 06:31, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
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| ::Not a big fan of that big space between the images and the logo, but I'll live with it. Yes, yes, YES!!! - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 13:47, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
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| :::I still like the Xehanort images better. They diversify the theme and show off our community. [[Special:Contributions/67.52.57.114|67.52.57.114]] 16:55, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
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| ::::We could always make a version with KH3D Antagonists, this is just the first draft, with the protagonists. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 01:07, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
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| {{LightRoxas|groose=I fail to see this as an issue of this gargantuan size. They're just bloody renders. ENX, I know you feel like using unofficial renders is wrong, but in know way is it anywhere close to fanart - the models were still made by Squeenix, and so even if they are posed by an external force, the main gist of it is still the same. I'm all for using official renders, provided they can bring attention to the text/logo/whatever we choose to have in the middle. If we can't find images of sufficient quality, there should be no problem with bringing in unofficial models.
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| *Erry, I like it. I do agree that the white space seems like a bit too much; perhaps you could shrink the KHWiki logo and fit it up higher? Also, I like the idea of an antagonist version. If we really wanted to be dynamic, we could even have it be a random draw between a variety of these sets of images, so as to give a different feel every time you visit the site. That might be more work than anyone wants to do, though.}}
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| {{ErryTalk|time=12:07, 19 April 2012 (UTC)|text=Made the images bigger so now there's less space. Take a look again and tell me what you think.}}
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| {{LightRoxas|riku=Lookin' good! I would definitely feel compelled to spend time here if I saw that.}} | | They are considered separate worlds ''story wise''. {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} |
| I just wish there was a way to move the "Featured" sections down without totally destroying the page so we could get Sora to the right far enough where we could fight "Kingdom Hearts Wiki" between him and Riku (so they're framing the logo), and then have the welcome notice directly beneath the images. But other than that, I'm really liking this, Erry! - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 19:27, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
| | :Unless the game states so, that's original research. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 21:56, July 25, 2010 (UTC) |
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| OR we could actually finish remodeling the main page as opposed to slightly changing the aesthetics. {{The Inexistentsig}} 20:31, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
| | {{Galexgan|time=22:59, July 25, 2010 (UTC)|text= I have to agree with Xerruy. Just because you say it's a ''story wise'' thing doesn't mean anything but that you think it should be listed as something, it is however not fact that these are seperate worlds as all of the facts Xerruy listed above help to qualify a world as a world. All of these extra areas are just part of another world. I do agree that saying Hades is from the Underworld sounds better but there are many more cases where this type of logic does not fit as Xerruy also stated above.}} |
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| | #Ursula's Grotto (which isn't a thing, you mean "Ursula's Lair") is part of Atlantica, even in the story. |
| | #Story-wise, the Coliseum is treated as the "in the clouds" area (ex: "These days Phil is busy running the Coliseum and screening contestants for", "Underworld Map, Caverns Map, Coliseum Map". Or, you could read the Olympus Coliseum story in the journal) |
| | #Same thing with Halloween Town. The actual script of the game is ''never'' so stupid as to say that Christmas Town is part of Halloween Town - yes, gameplay wise, they are one planet. However, according to the plot, Halloween Town and Christmas Town are parallel. |
| | #Barbossa doesn't live on Isla de Muerta, and in fact, the first time you see him is at the normal port town. However, no single part of Port Royal is delineated as being the true Port Royal, as far as I know - it is used to apply to the entire planetoid. (ex: "In Port Royal, Luxord used Heartless and the cursed medallions to conduct experiments on the Organization's behalf and collect hearts.") |
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| Why are the pages for the different types of enemies inconsistent as to how the enemies are sorted? The Heartless are sorted by type of enemy (like all of the Red Nocturne, Yellow Opera, Green Requiem type enemies together), the Nobodies appear to be sorted by when they appear in the game, and the Dream Eaters are in alphabetical order.
| | In regards to your definition of a world - kingdom hearts and dive to the heart are clearly separate worlds, but do not get their own logo or section in the journal. Neither does Castle Oblivion in Days, nor Destiny Islands (I may be wrong, but I don't think that any world gets an introductory cutscene in Days). However, Christmas Town and Underworld ARE listed as sub-worlds on this wiki. |
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| Shouldn't they all be sorted in a uniform fashion? [[Special:Contributions/131.128.130.106|131.128.130.106]] 18:57, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
| | Finally, your list misses the pretty basic point that I said "story-wise", not "game-mechanic wise", so it's a waste of time in any case.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 23:29, July 25, 2010 (UTC) |
| :They're supposed to be supported roughly by their order in the Journals, although there's a bit of winging it for the Heartless. If the Nobodies and Unversed are out of whack, they need to be fixed. Dream Eaters are currently all-alphabetical because we don't have a source for the Journal order yet.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 00:23, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
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| | * Dive to the Heart is a dream, isn't it? Even if that's not true, your analogy is wrong. DttH isn't just not listed as a world, it's not listed at all! Not as a world OR an area. Therefore you can't really determine what it is, so it's of no use in challenging my definition of a world (well, "my" definition - I'm just going by how it is represented in the game). Kingdom Hearts isn't encountered until the final boss fight, so it's impossible for it to be in the Journal (just like the [[Bit Sniper]] - you never get the chance to look at the Journal after seeing it). |
| | * My point with the Barbossa and Ursula examples was not that these were their actual home residences, but that world subsections/areas are not listed under "home world". We don't list Ursula's Lair as Ursula's home world, so we don't list Christmas Town as Santa's home world. There is no difference in how Ursula's Lair and Christmas Town are presented within the context of KH. |
| | * The plot does not state they are parallel worlds, that's your interpretation and that's original research. |
| | * You proved my point by stating that "Port Royal" refers to the entire planetoid (I take it you mean world by that). "Halloween Town" also refers to the entire planetoid, including Christmas Town. CT is not a seperate planetoid, it's part of the planetoid - the world - Halloween Town. That may not be the way in the story it is derived from (''The Nightmare Before Christmas''), but that's the way it's been incorporated into KH. Mind you, I'm not saying it makes sense - it also makes no sense for the Clock Tower to be a part of Neverland, ''but that's how the game treats it'' so that's the way it is. |
| | * Imagine if New York State was a world in KH just like Halloween Town or the Coliseum, consisting of NYC (Halloween Town/the actual Coliseum) and Albany (Christmas Town/the Underworld). The home "world" of someone from Albany would still be referred to as New York, even though NYC and Albany are two distinct cities. I know this analogy isn't perfect but I hope you get the point I'm making. |
| | * If the Underworld and CT are listed/mentioned as sub-worlds on this Wiki, that should be changed since it's original research. They're areas in worlds, that's how they are presented in the game and there is nothing that isn't original research that refutes that. Just because you're interpreting the plot in a certain way doesn't make it so. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 00:37, July 26, 2010 (UTC) |
| | #Dive to the Heart is listed for KH1 and KH2, in both the bradygames and Ultimanias. It's room names also appear in the game's pause screen. Whatever the circumstances of the Kingdom Hearts, the point is is that the game does not always show the logo/video, if there is something preventing it. |
| | #Ursula's Lair is considered part of Atlantica by the story. |
| | #It very explicitly states and treats them as separate worlds. Again, please read the game script or journal transcript - they always say stuff like "We went from Halloween Town to Christmas Town", etc. |
| | #The game mechanics treat CT as part of HT. HOWEVER, Story-wise, it is just another world accessible from HT, just like 100 Acre Wood is accessible from Radiant Garden, or TWTNW from Twilight Town - HT and CT even have a convenient wormhole, through the trees. |
| | #Your analogy is completely faulty. New York City != New York State. |
| | #They are absolutely presented as distinct from the "logoed" world. |
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| When someone gets a chance, please update the SEIWA box and post news, we have a new member! [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 23:21, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
| | Finally, (1) Original research is not prohibited on this wiki, speculation is. If we banned OR, we'd not have any more info here than wikipedia did. (2) You need to provide sources for your assertions, by the way.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 05:26, July 26, 2010 (UTC) |
| :Thank you. [[User:Bud0011|Bud0011]] 01:55, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
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| ::You're welcome! [[User:UxieLover1994|<font color="gold">Uxie</font>]]<small>[[User talk:UxieLover1994|<font color="gray">Lover</font>]]</small>[[User:UxieLover1994/Legado|<font color="red">1994</font>]] 03:22, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
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| == 3D Spoiler Tag == | | {{Galexgan|time=08:05, July 26, 2010 (UTC)|text= Just wanted to mention that... |
| | # Just because a third party guide says something doesn't mean a thing. I've read several of the guides that contains faulty wording. (Not specifically KH. And please excuse because this memory may be faulty in itself, though I'm pretty sure I've said to myself more than once that something was wrong in a guide.) Also, the Dive to the Heart/Awakening appear to be connected to a person going into a dream of their own as stated in the KH wiki article itself. There has been no conclusive proof to it's being it's own full fledged world as of yet. |
| | # I didn't exactly understand the Ursuala's Lair part either but he makes a point with Isle De La Muerta. |
| | # You say original research is prohibited but don't provide resources yourself to the topic being challenged. Simply stating that something does say something doesn't mean anything either, you could just be lying? Not calling you a liar but it's a possibility that anyone can be a liar to suit their own need in the situation. Nobody wants to go about reading the entire Journal script just because you ma say it's in there so just asking, but could you please point out specific points in the story if you believe it's in there. |
| | # But 100 Acre Woods does contain it's own spot in the Journal because it IS it's own world, same with The World That Never Was. And there are gates to those for specific story reasons as well. SO if Square wanted Underworld and such to be their own worlds then they would be, but their not, so they can't be their own worlds. |
| | # I agree with you about the New York thing... Thats confusing. Something was off about the logic. |
| | # And again, where at is it stated? |
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| | #What Galexgan said. |
| | #You're still missing my point. My point is not that Ursula's Lair is not a part of Atlantica (it ís, part of it, I'm not disputing that). My point is that world areas are not listed as home worlds for characters. |
| | #What Galexgan said. Besides, what you quote doesn't say CT is a seperate world. |
| | #Idem. |
| | #"''The city is often referred to as New York City or the City of New York to distinguish it from the state of New York, of which it is a part.''" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City] How was my analogy faulty again? |
| | #How's that? |
| | As for OR, how about you provide a source stating that it is allowed on this Wiki? Genertally Wikipedia's also apply to other Wikis. What allows this Wiki to have far more info on ''KH'' than Wikipedia is not the useage of OR, but the fact that since this Wiki is devoted to ''KH'' we are allowed to write "in-universe" and can go into far more into detail than would be considered encyclopedic on the main Wikipedia (for instance, seperate pages for all the ''KH'' worlds would not be allowed on thje main Wikipedia but are allowed here, allowing us to put a lot more info into them). [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 12:37, July 26, 2010 (UTC) |
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| So it has been more than two weeks, shouldn't we be removing the spoiler tags by now? --{{User:Xabryn/Sig}}15:37, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
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| :Well, if you feel like it's time then why don't you start doing that? {{User:Erry/Sig}} 15:56, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
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| So, with the Kingdom Hearts 3D [Dream Drop Distance] excitement dying down and excitement for KH1.5HD building up, I think we should update the site's style and main page. Either with a 10th Anniversary theme or a KH1.5HD theme, or even a neutral style. And we could get the ball rolling on any format changes to the main page that have been agreed on. What do you guys think? [[User:KeybladeSpyMaster|KeybladeSpyMaster]] ([[User talk:KeybladeSpyMaster|talk]]) 06:08, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
| | Galexgan: You're calling me a liar because the citations I provide disagree with you, but you're so monumentally lazy that you refuse to look up any other citations yourself. Please leave the discussion, because you are wasting everyone's time. |
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| I'm cool with either one. The KH Wiki always has the best designs. :)--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:07, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
| | Xerruy: There is no point in just saying "idem", especially if you don't make it clear what you are referring to. |
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| :I would suggest moving this to the forums, so that it can be stickied if there is enough interest. {{The Inexistentsig}} 19:09, 28 December 2012 (UTC) | | #The official, licensed guides each say that the Dive to the Heart is it's own world. Saying "Well, the official material could be completely wrong" is an empty argument. |
| | #Ursula's Lair is canonically part of Atlantica, in every possible sense. It is not a valid analogy by any means. A better source would be Agrabah versus the Cave of Wonders, which are also treated as distinct in the games and movies (For example, the city areas have "Agrabah: Room name", and the CoW areas have "Cave of Wonders: Room name". As for your claim that "world areas are not listed as home worlds", yes, they definitely are. Anywhere that says "Hollow Bastion" uses a world area name, as does the articles where your edits were reverted. |
| | #Isla de Muerta is not separated, story wise, from "Port Royal". If I'm wrong on this, ''provide a source''. However, the game absolutely says CT is a separate place. They "go from Olympus Coliseum to the Underworld", they "go from Halloween Town to Christmas Town". CT is physically separate from HT, and is accessed through a wormhole from HT, just like TWTNW from Twilight Town, yes, they are both listed under Halloween Town planetoid, but it is obvious that is because they are from the same movie. |
| | #NYC IS NOT NYS, IT IS A SMALL PART OF NYS. Halloween Town is Halloween Town. There is no "Halloween Town State" nor "Halloween Town City", and neither the games nor movies have ever claimed there were. |
| | #I provided multiple quotes from the game, and pointed you two towards where more would be. Provide something from the games that backs up your claim, or accept the citations presented. |
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| :Ok, I'm kind of new here, so how do I do that? [[User:KeybladeSpyMaster|KeybladeSpyMaster]] ([[User talk:KeybladeSpyMaster|talk]]) 04:55, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
| | I never said OR was prohibited. Do you guys understand what OR is? If this wiki banned OR, we would not be allowed to write ANYTHING that hadn't already been written in a reliable third party source, like the New York Times or an IGN article. We would not have any game stats, or list character's home worlds, or any of that, unless Professional Journalist Pete Penciller had already written it and had it published in major syndication.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 14:30, July 26, 2010 (UTC) |
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| :Never mind, I can see that it's already been done. [[User:KeybladeSpyMaster|KeybladeSpyMaster]] ([[User talk:KeybladeSpyMaster|talk]]) 03:19, 30 December 2012 (UTC) | | {{Galexgan|time=22:24, July 26, 2010 (UTC)|text= Wow. Calm down a little alright. Whats the need for getting angry, it's a simple debate? |
| | # Alright, I don't have the purchased guides so I'll take your word for it until I can prove otherwise. I still can't see how the Awakening is a world, I belive that to be overlooked by Square and the authors then if it is in there. |
| | #Hollow Bastion was later proved to be part of a bigger world called Radiant Garden, so saying something, unless it's an article from Kingdom hearts 1 specifically in which it is known as Hollow Bastion, is from Hollow Bastion would be wrong, as that is no longer it's name. (Unless like I said it's an article from Kingdom Hearts 1 only, then it might be fit to be said to be from Hollow Bastion.) |
| | #Those citations you provide are outdone with the logic of me saying, "I went from the kitchen to the bathroom." It's all part of the same house so just saying you went from point A to point B doesn't have to mean you went to another world. Plus, if you watch the movie Nightmare Before Christmas Jack Skellington goes to a city populated by the living not through a portal, it may be safe to say that Santa Claus would deliver presents through the same way, just by flying to everywhere. The trees act like shortcuts to different areas located some distance away in a larger world... |
| | #Which is where I now see how Xerruy's logic comes in, what it appears he saying is that assume New York state is Halloween Town world, then take New York City as Halloween Town town. Now use Albany as Christmas Town town. Someone from Halloween Town town is from the bigger world called Halloween Town, the same as someone from Christmas Town, just because their from Albany doesn't mean their not a part of the bigger state called New York. So in all they are from the world called Halloween Town world though they can either be from Halloween Town town or Christmas Town town.}} |
| | *Yes, it is a simple debate. However, if you are not willing to put any work into researching your claims, and you're going to fling baseless accusations of lying, you need to leave. |
| | *Hollow Bastion is the castle. Anyone from the castle is from Hollow Bastion. |
| | *That "logic" does not disprove anything, as it is completely inapplicable to the discussion at hand. For example, your kitchen is not your house. |
| | *I'm not disputing that Halloween Town and Christmas Town are presented as part of the same "planetoid". However, '''''within the game script''''', "Halloween Town" only ever refers to the town of the dead, ''never'' the Christmas portion. That is and has been the ''entire'' point of this discussion.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 02:27, July 27, 2010 (UTC) |
| | Yes, they're part of the same "planetoid". And that planetoid is called "Halloween Town" (same for the Coliseum), which is where my NY analogy comes in (which Galexgan understood correctly). |
| | Hollow Bastion and Radiant Garden are the same thing by the way, RG being its original name as Aerith said. But I think that's a different matter entirely. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 15:38, July 27, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :I understand your analogy. It is not analogous to the situation, and it is not supported by the game script. There is nothing in the story to indicate that there is any kind of "Halloween State" which contains "Christmas Town", and that claim is in fact directly contradictory to the plot. I really wish you would, just for one second, actually find some sources, instead of throwing meaningless and irrelevant "analogies" at me. |
| | :Hollow Bastion and Radiant Garden are not the same thing. Hollow Bastion is the castle itself - when Radiant Garden fell, only the castle remained, and that was all that people could remember. When the full world was restored due to Sora, people remembered the name of the world itself.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 18:24, July 27, 2010 (UTC) |
| | ::By the way, if you think my heart is "too weak to see the truth", Galexgan, how about you actually do some work and present a single source, i.e., truth?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:22, July 28, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :::You're taking the analogy too literally. The "state" is the planetoid. As I have already said the game script doesn't really say anything about this one way or the other; I already posted other proof earlier (e.g. the menu, Journal sections, logo scene). I'm not going to post screenshots of those because I assume you own ''KHII'' just like I do. Also, how about we take this down a couple of notches? I'm talking to Galexgan ''and'' KrytenKoro. This is a simple disagreement, no need to make it any bigger than that. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 13:58, July 28, 2010 (UTC) |
| | #Again, Xerruy, I ''fully understand'' that the game mechanics do not differentiate between Christmas Town/Halloween Town, Olympus Coliseum/Underworld. The character infoboxes, which this whole thing are about, are fundamentally story-based. The home world box even more so (it is where they are from, not which world you can talk to them on). Using gameplay definitions is completely irrelevant. |
| | #As I've posted and said over and over, the plot and script ''always'' differentiates between HT/CT, OC/UW. CT is ''never'' said to be part of HT, UW is ''never'' said to be part of OC. |
| | #''If you disagree with this'', post sources proving me wrong (it should be quite easy if you're right, as I'm claiming a negative - you have to show just one positive). However, the constant analogies to your claim are useless, since they have no actual evidence behind them and are largely inaccurate, and there really is no point to continuing this discussion until you guys find some sources.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 15:04, July 28, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | "We stopped by Halloween Town, puzzled by its new appearance." From Jiminy's Journal. |
| | If you look at the Halloween Town world it not only has Holloween Town located at the bottom of it but connected on the world itself is Christmas Town on the top. This is clearly visible even on the main "world" picture on the Halloween Town article, if you click the KHII tab.}} |
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| Why do all of the pages on this wiki have SOOOO many redirects? It makes it very difficult to use the back button... [[User:ToaJuaraevo01|ToaJuaraevo01]] ([[User talk:ToaJuaraevo01|talk]]) 17:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
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| :Redirects does not effect the back button in any way and redirects allow easy access to other pages. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 17:47, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
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| ::To make it easier for people to find what they're searching for. Just use the listed back button instead of a single click, or open new tabs.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 04:24, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
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| It's like a redirect of a redirect of a redirect. [[User:ToaJuaraevo01|ToaJuaraevo01]] ([[User talk:ToaJuaraevo01|talk]]) 19:18, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
| | You guys are in a huge debate that's getting nowhere. Quite frankly, i agree with Kryten. But if we're going to get snippy and technical, My suggestion above is a simple solution. --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 00:30, July 30, 2010 (UTC) |
| :Instead of complaining about it and essentially wasting our time why don't you tell us what the page is so we can fix it? {{User:Erry/Sig}} 01:39, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
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| ::[[Guard Bonus]] is the only page that does that on this wiki. It's fixed now.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 02:11, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
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| | {{Galexgan|time=00:51, July 30, 2010 (UTC)|text= That will actually work for me.}} |
| | I like LA's solution. The decision why SE didn't seperate some worlds (even if they are by story logic) is cleary a gameplay decision. That's why The Mysterious Tower is seperated from Twilight Town in BBS.--[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 10:32, July 30, 2010 (UTC) |
| | ::I went ahead and implemented LA's solution. |
| | ::Just to clarify, though, Jiminy was referring to how Halloween Town was decked out in Christmas decorations, as is referenced in the opening cutscene.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 11:34, July 30, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :::This is a good compromise. [[User:Xerruy|Xerruy]] 01:19, August 1, 2010 (UTC) |
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| I don't have that problem. Perhaps it's the type of window you're using (e.g: Google Chrome).--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 17:46, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
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| I am using Internet Explorer. [[User:ToaJuaraevo01|ToaJuaraevo01]] ([[User talk:ToaJuaraevo01|talk]]) 12:06, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
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| And there's your answer. I used IE, too, before I used Google Chrome. I remember that the back button was faulty on IE.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:51, 25 February 2013 (UTC)
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| Which versions are considered canon? I am getting confused, what with all the originals and the RE:'s and "Final Mixes".
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| :All the REs and Final Mixes are considered canon, as well as the full games and HD Remix {{User:Coldasfire/Sig1}}18:45, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
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| ::The most recent versions of each game are considered canon, supplemented by the novels.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 02:32, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
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| :::Although KHX isn't canon, as I've heard. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 06:12, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
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| {{SoRiKa|riku=Okay, so I'm pretty much guessing no one here actually edits (and/or cares to check)this talk page anymore. But, I was wondering, what with the upcoming release of Kingdom Hearts HD 2.5 ReMIX and all, why are we still using the theme (or background and logo, whatever you call it) for 1.5? 2.5 is gonna be II and Birth by Sleep (don't know why I felt the need to clarify that). I certainly don't see the sense in keeping the Kingdom Hearts/CoM and Days renders from 1.5 for the logo. So, to get to my point, who else feels the need for a change?}}
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| {{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=23:48, 13 January 2014 (UTC)|text=I also would like to be apart of this again! In fact, I've already made a concept background, though I haven't had time to post a picture in my [[User:KeybladeSpyMaster/Gadget Lab|Gadget Lab]].
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| I think the main reason we're still with the KHHD1.5 theme is in part because of the lack of a release date. When we brought this up last year, we knew the game would be released in March. Plus, at the time, we soon got artwork, renders, and other things we don't really have for KHHD2.5, yet. Not to mention, HD1 was released just 4 months ago. Most likely, we'll leave things the way they are, at least until we get a release date.}}
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| :We could have Ephemera, Chirithy and the robed figure as a trio on one side and on the other side, we could have Players. Rather than designing some Players specifically for the magazine, we could ask the wiki's KHX-playing editors to send a screenshot of their Players and we can crop it out for the main page. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 11:00, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| ::Why don't we use some of the Foretellers? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 11:06, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| :::I considered that too, but we'd only have three of five Foretellers so some Unions might feel left out. Are there any "main" Unions or are they all on an equal standing to each other? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 11:08, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| ::::Why not three Foretellers on one side and the other two + Ephemera/Chirithy/Unknown on the other? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 11:10, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| :As for designing new players for the front page: Let's just say it's not impossible but without deeper understanding about flash and the game's coding it would be a very complicated puzzle with hundreds of pieces that can change their sizes and orientations. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 12:11, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| :You're right, it's not that that complicated to change the hair or skin color but the costumes themselves are not made of one piece that is simply pasted over the body but every part (hat, boots, upper body etc.) consists of many different shapes, the images I uploaded here are just the preview pictures of the avatar menu not the whole costumes. Maybe I don't understand how you would change the costumes though. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 13:32, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| There's this picture from KHInsider; wonder if we could use the avatars here? '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 16:14, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
| | When Terra encounters young Riku from behind, he can see a young Guy (later confirmed as Master Xeanort in his youth) and Riku in several years later (Kingdom Hearts II design). What could that mean? |
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| Honestly, I don't think we should use random people's avatars (it feels a bit plagiarise-y). How about we use all five Foretellers and have three Foretellers + Chirithy on one side and two Foretellers + Ephemera on the other side? That excludes the robed figure, but he's already in the logo and he's not even a named character anyway. It also does mean that there's four characters on one side but Chirithy is teensy so it shouldn't look cluttered. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 17:28, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| :I agree with FM. We can't just go and use other people's avatars, and I'm sure nobody would mind having four (or three-and-a-half) characters on one side. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:35, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| Hang on, hang on, hang on: Plagiarise-y? The parts are predominantly from within ''Kingdom Hearts'' for crying out loud. Sure, there are some original-looking clothes, but then there are going to be people dressed up as Shiki and Neku and goodness knows who else.
| | - This shall show a connection between Riku, Terra and Master Xehanort, since Master Xehanort is from Destiny Island like Riku and Terra resembles Master Xehanort in his youth |
| | - There is not really a connection, but Square-Enix wants us to make some tension |
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| I suppose if we created our own avatars, that'd work, but then someone else would complain that we "stole" their idea, when in actual fact, EVERYTHING COMES FROM SODDING SQUARE ENIX AND DISNEY. If this was Animal Crossing, where we could sew our actual own patterns on to dresses, then I'd be worried about plagiarism. Also, I would like to see Unchained X's terms and conditions; surely there have to be some around. There ''has'' to be a EULA for us to read, to see just how the avatars can be used etc. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 17:56, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| :I don't really see it as plagiarism, but if I were playing the game, I would create a unique (or as unique as possible) avatar, and it would be weird to see the exact same avatar on our Main Page. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:00, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| :::It's definitely legal to do, just maybe not in good taste. We could use our own avatars (which is why I proposed we use avatars of KHWikians who play the game) but I think it does have more sense to have the Foretellers on there. They're really plot-essential. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 18:04, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| ::::These are not images of random avatars but promotional material by SquareEnix to display the new (and old) costumes. If we wanted to use the Foretellers the Clocktower scene would probably fitting, I uploaded it without background and in higher resolution [http://www.mediafire.com/view/blteb8559lylpzu/Foreteller_and_Unknown.png here]. It would also be possible to construct a similiar image with their Keyblades if needed. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 18:47, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| Right now, I am scouring the Net for KHX avatars displayed on Famitsu and KHInsider news articles. I'll also be separating those from people who are playing KHX for KHInsider and who have uploaded their own avatars. Will share them once I've done all I can; I'd like to know what you folks think about what I'm about to gather and show. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 17:01, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
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| | There is absolutely no point in including information that already has a confirmed explaination. It ceases to be speculation at that point. As for the idea of the page itself, if everyone was allowed to post every theory that crossed their minds, it would be an absolute mess of a page. If only staffers could edit it as you suggested, that simply wouldn't be fair. We have the Twilight Town forums for this sort of thing specifically.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}23:16, August 7, 2010 (UTC) |
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| **This one requires an update to the logo, I feel, to avoid redundancy (I personally don't like the idea of Ephemera appearing both on the main page and in the logo). What if we replaced Ephemera with the Player and alternated back-and-forth between male and female versions, kind of like we did with the various logos for our ''KHIIHD'' theme?
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| :I don't really have any thoughts on the actual plan, but try to keep spoilers to a minimum. I don't play KHUX so I don't know if the existence of those characters are spoilery things or not, but it's just a reminder. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 18:27, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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| ::In my opinion, if Ephemera can be in the logo, he can be on the main page. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 19:32, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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| :::I decided to go with the ''KHX'' 1st and 2nd Anniversary artwork because of the issues we were having with the Foretellers, Player avatars, and "spoiler-y" characters like Skuld and Ephemera. Here is what I came up with:
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| :::Thoughts? I'd say it looks pretty good! - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 21:03, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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| ::::Wow, it looks great! :D--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:24, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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| :::::Thanks! The only thing that annoys me are the two Chirithys :P A few more supporting votes, and I'll consider this green-lighted and update the main page accordingly. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 21:33, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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| It looks amazing! Really nicely done! (What is Riku wearing? O_o) {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 21:39, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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| ::Thanks! I believe it's supposed to be Goofy's outfit :P Shall I update the main page, then? - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 21:46, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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| :::No, it's his normal KH1 outfit. The lighting in the picture just makes it look like it's colored differently. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 23:27, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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| ::::It actually is supposed to reflect Goofy's. The artwork posted by Nomura shows a Goofy hat and ears doodled on Riku. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 23:29, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
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| | I just wondering if we can create pages on the different types of bug blocks after Kingdom Hearts Re:coded comes out in Japan. In the video shown below, there are more types of blocks whan in the original Coded. There are:Blocks that combine into one(Which gives Sora SP), Purple and Yellow Blocks with stars on them, disappearing and reappearing blocks, electric-looking blocks that damage Sora on contact, etc. |
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| | It would probably be better to mention them on the main [[Bug Block]] page rather than create whole articles for each of them, but yeah, they should be noted once we get more info.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}19:03, August 11, 2010 (UTC) |
| :Fixed it! {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 15:50, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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| ::Thank you, TSH, you're my HERO. <s> is shot </s>Do you think you can fix the Mirage Arena headline as well? It seems to be a white bg only on RoundedBlue. (I don't know why). {{User:ANX219/Sig}} 16:14, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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| ::::Bah humbug! I don't understand any of those tables! Thanks for your help! {{User:ANX219/Sig}} 18:04, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
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| These two pages need to be deleted: χ (Disambiguation) and Twig. <br/>
| | Can somebody fix it? The text's gone all funny, with the actual timer part having vanished into the aether. [[Special:Contributions/82.37.246.236|82.37.246.236]] 07:14, August 13, 2010 (UTC) |
| I stumbled across the first one that needs to be deleted. There's already a χ (disambiguation), with the lower case "d", so there's no need for the one with the capital "D". <br/>
| | :It looks fine to me... Is anyone else experiencing problems? {{User:Dan da Man36/Sig}} 09:55, August 13, 2010 (UTC) |
| The second one I made as a redirect for [[Undead Pirate]] because on that page, it said one of the pirates names is "Twig." Turns out it was spelled incorrectly and it's actually "Twigg" (which I corrected). So since Twig is the incorrect spelling, the page should be deleted. <br/>
| | When I'm logged in, it looks fine. But, if I log out, the countdown section looks like this: Only September 7 2010 00:06 UTCThe North American release of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep is on the 7th of September! GMT until the North American release of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep! Just that, and no actual countdown.{{User:Keyblade0/Sig}} |
| Thank you! --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 00:05, 19 January 2016 (UTC) <br/>
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| | Same here. It looks normal when your logged in but when you log out its messed up. {{User:Organization 13/Sig}} 18:23, August 13, 2010 (UTC) |
| | :That's actually a function of how wikia handles non-logged users. There is no way to fix it from our end.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 23:02, August 14, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | There is no rich text editing. :(Yuffie, the Great Ninja MASTER!!! 23:20, August 15, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | It screwed up the coding of the pages and added a bunch of random spaces everywhere from what I understand. We had to reqeust that it be disabled.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}23:28, August 15, 2010 (UTC) |
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| | I've noticed that some of the FF and Disney characters oh their original appearances (be it movies or games) in their main section. So, my question is if it is already in the Origin section is it truly needed? I'm just curious. [[User:Venitus|Venitus]] 18:28, August 17, 2010 (UTC) |
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| :Little blurb in the Trinity Archive box, maybe? {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 16:45, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
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| ::Wasn't it just something Nomura did for fun for the fans - you know, as a way to say "thank you for attending"? So, it's not really canon, right? If that's the case, then there really isn't anything to do with it besides put in the TA.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:43, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
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| | I've noticed if you go on the home page as an Unregistered Contributer, the countdown to Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep reads: Only September 7 2010 00:06 UTCThe North American release of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep is on the 7th of September! GMT until the North American release of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep! |
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| :A clock? --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 00:30, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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| ::The Dive to the Heart Stations artwork on the clocks. Did you click the link or just read it? [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 05:08, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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| :::My question stands. A clock? Why do we need to cover a bunch of pointless merchandising? --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 19:33, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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| ::::Because it's OFFICIAL Dive to the Heart artwork. They may not be the characters' canon Stations, but it's still artwork, which we do cover. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 04:48, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
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| :::::But we've already covered all the artwork present here. It's the same stuff just cropped and pasted over stained glass patterns. Anyone can do that with five minutes and a copy of photoshop. --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 17:41, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
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| ::::::Dude, what part of OFFICIAL ARTWORK are you NOT getting? So what if the foreground character artwork is reused, the Station artwork in the background is the important part. Just look at Xion's, hers strangely ''doesn't'' feature Roxas. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 04:04, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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| :::::::You're starting to fucking bug me now. Don't do that. --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 07:47, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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| :I disagree, the "new" Dive to the Heart stations are mere collages of already existing artwork and hardly canon when the central characters don't even have their eyes closed. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 07:40, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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| ::I second this. It's just random merchandise. --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 19:36, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
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| :Hm, why is it called a "memorial" clock when apparently nobody died? Semantics aside, it's a grandiose ad campaign in a major public area – I assume, Kryten, that you want this in the Trinity Archives? This is a pretty unique case, we haven't exactly set a precedent for running this kind of story on the main page before. Right now, I'm against it, but I'm curious as to why you'd like it featured, Kryten. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 05:13, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
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| ::I wanted this covered as an actual article, because it's an official Kingdom Hearts production. We cover merch already, I'm not clear why this is different.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:19, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
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| ::According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, a "memorial" is "something, especially a structure, established to remind people of a person or event". Not necessarily in relation to someone dead. There ''is'' a [[Kingdom Hearts Ultimania#Kingdom Hearts Series Memorial Ultimania| Memorial Ultimania]] for the series, remember?. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 04:04, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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| :::Not really? ''Barely?'' I mean, we've covered the soundtracks, which are obviously directly tied to the games, the manga and the trading card game - remember that one lol? - but our stuff on merchandise is ''really super'' light. I mean, look at the acrylic stands. Those actually feature ''new artwork'' by Nomura, yet we didn't bother with them at all. --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 17:41, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
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| ::::To be fair, we have an article for [[The Sceptre and the Kingdom]], a non-canon promotional comic written and illustrated by non-Square personnel. This is an officially sanctioned promotion, we've got articles for things even more loosely related to KH. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 21:51, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
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| :::::[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2017-01-09/square-enix-displays-kingdom-hearts-stained-glass-clock-in-shinjuku-station/.110790 Anime News Network did an article about it], just to let you guys know.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:50, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
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| ::::::Our scope ''includes'' all that merch. Not having an article about it ''yet'' is not the same as consensus that we ''should not'' have one.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:20, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
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| :::::::Well, it's ultimately your call lol. If you feel it's important enough, then go right ahead and make a page on it. Me personally though, this just falls a wee bit into the insignificant territory though - it's just clocks that reuse the same stock artwork, not much different from the million and one...I dunno, Pink Floyd clocks! The only difference is that these are official SE merch. --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 09:04, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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| | --[[User:Gr8champ|<font color="green">'''Look at me...'''</font>]] [[User talk:Gr8champ|<font color="purple">'''Look at me!'''</font>]] [[User:Gr8champ/Dissidia:Kingdom's_Fantasy|<font color="blue"><small>'''Do I have gum in my teeth?'''</small></font>]] 10:20, August 19, 2010 (UTC) |
| Unchained X is under the "Re-releases and remakes" section of the home page, but we now know that it's actually a sequel to KHX that takes place in the Unchained realm, so shouldn't it be put under the "Timeline of the Kingdom Hearts series" section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.102.24.151|76.102.24.151]] 08:32, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
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| :What is the source, by the way? --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 17:38, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
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| ::Nomura, actually. I definitely ''do'' recall him calling it a sequel, but I can't recall which interview it was. Could be a mistranslation though - KH13 doesn't have the world's most reliable translators. That said, even IF it is a sequel, it still doesn't entirely change its status as a remake of the browser game, since it adapts it beat by beat ''until'' it passes by it. It's pretty difficult to classify, so, really, typical Nomura nonsense lol. --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 22:51, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
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| :::Sorry, it took me a while to find it. [http://www.khinsider.com/news/Expanded-Dengeki-Interview-with-Tetsuya-Nomura-on-KINGDOM-HEARTS-2-8-7963 Nomura: Ephemer and Skuld are becoming considerably more important in the second season of KH Unchained X. Although the story of KHX (PC) has concluded, the story of Unchained Chi exists in another dimension. The relationship around that will be told in the second season, so please wait for the next report.] --[[Special:Contributions/76.102.24.151|76.102.24.151]] 17:10, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
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| | :Scroll up two sections dude.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}10:25, August 19, 2010 (UTC) |
| Since the story of Back Cover stretches back further and ends before KHχ, shouldn't it be listed first on the timeline? [[User:Bob4894|Bob4894]] ([[User talk:Bob4894|talk]]) 04:29, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
| | ::It also only works on the Monaco skin. '''<font face="Trebuchet MS"><span style="background:#3300CC">[[User:Bluerfn|<span style="color:white"><sup>BLUER</sup></span>]]</span>[[User talk:Bluerfn|<span style="color:#CC0011">一番</span>]]</font>''' 10:27, August 19, 2010 (UTC) |
| :Sounds good.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:43, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
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| :Do flashbacks count, though? --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 16:56, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
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| ::Normally I would say no, but the flashbacks are like half of the movie. And since it still ends before I still think it should be listed first. [[User:Bob4894|Bob4894]] ([[User talk:Bob4894|talk]]) 14:47, 4 February 2017 (UTC) | |
| :::Honestly, it wasn't clear to me if they were actually being portrayed as flashbacks, or just the timeline rewinding for each new chapter. The feeling that I got was more like each Case was like a step in a staircase -- overlapping the timeline of the previous case but just a wee bit shifted forward at the beginning and end each time.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:51, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
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| ::::That's true, it basically zigziags back and forth throughout the story. Either way though, I think it should be listed before χ for the ending alone. The same idea as CoM going before 358. [[User:Bob4894|Bob4894]] ([[User talk:Bob4894|talk]]) 00:51, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
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| Hey, guys, doesn't the front page, specifically the Featured Article and Media, needs to be updated? I don't think we've changed it since last year?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:38, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
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| :YES. Most definitely. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 08:37, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
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| ::YAY! A reply! I was thinking, after seeing your Christmas theme, we choose articles to match. For Featured Media, maybe we can use Santa Claus, or one of Sora and co.'s Christmas forms, for example. And for Featured Article, maybe we change it to Christmas Town or Decisive Pumpkin. :)--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:53, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
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| | Did it get changed around? If so, why didn't mine change from Organization XIII to the new one?--[[User:Lord Captain Cecil Harvey|Lord Captain Cecil Harvey]] 01:12, August 22, 2010 (UTC) |
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| :I think because they are treated as separate characters in the journal. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 22:59, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
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| | {{LapisScarab|time=13:47, August 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=I don't much see the point of that, since we aldready have the Mirage Arena.}} |
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| Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ should be under the "Timeline of the Kingdom Hearts series" section. It should be placed after Kingdom Hearts χ[chi] and before Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross]. It might not be a separate game than Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross], but it's still a separate title, and should be in the timeline alongside the other titles. It would make Kingdom Hearts III the 13th title in the series, which I believe is intentional. Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ is a sequel to Kingdom Hearts χ[chi], and Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross] is a continuation, as well as a rebranding, of Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ. Also, the name "Kingdom Hearts χ" should be changed to "Kingdom Hearts χ[chi]" and the name "Kingdom Hearts Union χ" should be changed to "Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross]". That's the games' proper titles. It's "Kingdom Hearts χ Back Cover", "Kingdom Hearts χ[chi]", Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ", and "Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross]". --[[Special:Contributions/73.71.161.160|73.71.161.160]] 05:26, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
| | {{Chitalian8|time=15:22, September 2, 2010 (UTC)|mobile= Alright, if you guys could take a look at the joint struggle section, you will see that some articles under the "expansion" topic are definitely complete, yet they still remain. For example, the Chimaera and Grand Ghost articles are set. Can a staff member please remove these?}} |
| :We actually just had a discussion about this last month on our forums, see [[Forum:The Unchained / Union X Situation|here]]. Basically, although I think we should split them up as well, it's kinda hard to determine exactly what is ''Unchained χ'' and what is ''Union χ'' in terms of story, which is probably the most important part, because the rebranding was rolled out simultaneously in the Japanese and global versions, but both were in different locations in the story. I can't remember the exact quest numbers, but they are significantly different. So despite the fact that they are different game titles, because ''Union χ'' was rolled out as just an update, it's very hard to differentiate it from ''Unchained χ''. We've opted instead to refer to the two collectively as ''Union χ'', which is what Square Enix is also doing (see timeline on [http://www.kingdomhearts.com the official website], which references ''Union χ'', but doesn't mention ''Unchained χ''. The Japanese website is more detailed but also doesn't mention ''Unchained χ''). As for the titles, there's actually an issue with the MediaWiki software (the software that runs our wiki and others like Wikipedia). It can't handle (at least not now) titles with brackets "[]" in them, because brackets are used so often in wikitext, such as when making links and assigning categories. So we can't actually rename the pages as ''Kingdom Hearts χ[chi]'', ''Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ[chi]'', ''Kingdom Hearts Union χ[cross]'', etc. Technically, Dream Drop Distance is officially ''Kingdom Hearts [Dream Drop Distance]'', but we can't do that, either. There's really no work around for it. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 16:22, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
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| ::Since the main page now has a separate "Updates and Remakes" section, shouldn't Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross] be moved to that section and Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ be put in its place where it was in the Timeline section? Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross] is to Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ what Kingdom Hearts III Re Mind is to Kingdom Hearts III. An update that changes the title screen with a new name and continues the story with new content. The Timeline section should be "Kingdom Hearts χ Back Cover, Kingdom Hearts χ[chi], Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ, Kingdom Hearts Dark Road, Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep", etc. And the Updates and Remakes Section should be "Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross], Kingdom Hearts Final Mix, Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories", etc. Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ and Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross] might not be two different games, but they are indeed two separate titles and should both be represented on the main page with all the other titles, especially if you are now including updates and remakes. --[[Special:Contributions/108.248.164.72|108.248.164.72]] 02:05, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
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| :::See KSM's reply right above your comment. Unchained X got renamed to Union X, so it's the same game. Re Mind is still separate from KH3. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:34, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
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| ::::Unchained χ and Union χ[Cross] are the same game, but two separate titles. I thought the icons on the main page were all of the KH titles, not just the games. Or else χ Back Cover and Re Mind wouldn't be on there. χ Back Cover is a movie, not a game, and Re Mind is a DLC extension of KH3, not a whole separate game. And Union χ[Cross] is a downloadable extension and rebranding of Unchained χ. The first half of the game is still referred to as Unchained χ. Technically, if someone downloaded Unchained χ before it was rebranded to Union χ[Cross] and they chose to never update their game, they would still have Unchained χ. That's still technically what the non-updated vanilla base game is called. It's still a title that happened and counts. You're acting like Union χ[Cross] is just a renaming of Unchained χ, but it's also an extension with continued story. It was advertised as a sort of "season two" of Unchained χ. Also, one of the sections on the front page is called "Updates and Remakes." Union χ[Cross] is an update, is it not? --[[Special:Contributions/108.248.164.131|108.248.164.131]] 12:37, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
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| :::::Unchained χ is a forced update though, even if you had a version prior to 2.3.0/2.5.0 you wouldn't be able to play it. The whole situation was a nightmare, that's why we voted to replace Unchained χ icon with Union χ icon. Everything that is part of Unchained χ is part of Union χ now. The same can't be said about Re Mind which is mostly separate from KHIII. I don't have anything against adding the Unchained icon back to the timeline and putting the Union icon in the update section though. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 17:04, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
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| Weren't they originally listed as separate titles? I can't recall since at the time I didn't really do much than just refer to this wiki now and again, but I think they were. And honestly, with a ''second'' rebranding on the horizon, it's gonna be difficult to keep track of everything otherwise. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 17:48, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
| | Hey Guys, You Won't Believe This, But, KHInsider Forums Member "Forever Atlas" Has The English Version of the Game! 5 Days Before it's Release! --[[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] 22:40, September 2, 2010 (UTC) |
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| :If you search for the name of the page you want to make, it will say "Create the page ... on this wiki!" You just click the red link and create the page. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 15:58, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
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| | {{Dan da Man36|time=18:37, September 4, 2010 (UTC)|lion=The countdown is set to GMT (Greenwich Meridian Time, the same as London / England / UK etc...) so it will end at 00:00 on September 7th.}} |
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| We probably already have this, but if not, can we have a forward-facing page that has links to the main maintenance pages, for editors who want to help? I know I often forget this stuff.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:43, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
| | Why is it running backwards?[[User:Oh,how the sea calls|Oh,how the sea calls]] 00:55, September 7, 2010 (UTC) |
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