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== Mysterious Tower Battle Music BBS ==
== Mysterious Tower Battle Music BBS ==
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Im sorry Kingdom Hearts Wiki, but this new look is anoying and confusing, if you please.... CHANGE IT BACK!!!
Im sorry Kingdom Hearts Wiki, but this new look is anoying and confusing, if you please.... CHANGE IT BACK!!!


Wikia changed it. We did nothing. [[File:Haste KHBBS.png]][[User:Pea14733|<font face="Segoe UI" color=deepskyblue size=2><b><sup>==</sup>Pea</b></font>]][[User_talk:Pea14733|<font face="Segoe UI" color=lawngreen size=2><b>14733<sub>==</sub></b></font>]][[File:Auto-Counter KHBBS.png]] 07:51, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
Wikia changed it. We did nothing. [[File:DL_VentusHaste.png]][[User:Pea14733|<font face="Segoe UI" color=deepskyblue size=2><b><sup>==</sup>Pea</b></font>]][[User_talk:Pea14733|<font face="Segoe UI" color=lawngreen size=2><b>14733<sub>==</sub></b></font>]][[File:DL_VentusAutoCounter.png]] 07:51, October 22, 2010 (UTC)


Well then Wikia change it back!!!
Well then Wikia change it back!!!
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{{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=23:48, 13 January 2014 (UTC)|text=I also would like to be apart of this again! In fact, I've already made a concept background, though I haven't had time to post a picture in my [[User:KeybladeSpyMaster/Gadget Lab|Gadget Lab]].
{{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=23:48, 13 January 2014 (UTC)|text=I also would like to be apart of this again! In fact, I've already made a concept background, though I haven't had time to post a picture in my [[User:KeybladeSpyMaster/Gadget Lab|Gadget Lab]].
I think the main reason we're still with the KHHD1.5 theme is in part because of the lack of a release date. When we brought this up last year, we knew the game would be released in March. Plus, at the time, we soon got artwork, renders, and other things we don't really have for KHHD2.5, yet. Not to mention, HD1 was released just 4 months ago. Most likely, we'll leave things the way they are, at least until we get a release date.}}
I think the main reason we're still with the KHHD1.5 theme is in part because of the lack of a release date. When we brought this up last year, we knew the game would be released in March. Plus, at the time, we soon got artwork, renders, and other things we don't really have for KHHD2.5, yet. Not to mention, HD1 was released just 4 months ago. Most likely, we'll leave things the way they are, at least until we get a release date.}}
:It's not even the release date. It's that we have no materials to switch up the themes. Since I manned the KH HD 1.5 theme, and partially, the KH3D theme, we haven't had any material for 2.5 (Boxart, to use in the logo, argyle-like pattern for the background.), pretty much everything we know is what colors we'll be using. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 09:42, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
{{TheFifteenthMember|time={{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 16:59, 3 April 2014 (UTC)|default=I think 2.5 will use the same background theme as 1.5 so there's no need to change the skin. What we could do once 2.5's release date is announced, is change the logo and icons to suit 2.5's games. The logo could be updated to whatever new models, of Sora, Riku and Kairi, 2.5's box cover will have. And on the main page, we could replace Sora, Kairi and Riku with their KH2 renders and Roxas, Axel and Xion with Ventus, Terra and Aqua to match BBS.}}
{{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=19:42, 3 April 2014 (UTC)|text=I would imagine that, like the logo, the color scheme would probably be a little lighter. And, of course, the icons would probably change (have to incorporate the Mark of Mastery and Recusant's Sigil now).}}
==Technical Difficulties==
{{NinjaSheik|text=Is anyone else experiencing issues with the wiki? I tried to get, but it says that the site was experiencing technical difficulties. I think it stopped now, but I want to make sure if anyone knew why the site was acting glitchy.}}
The site went down the other for a little bit and was messing up then...I haven't ran across any problems on my end...yet. Anything specific on what problems you're seeing? {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 21:30, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
{{NinjaSheik|text=It wouldn't load for the most part. A few times, I got a white web page saying that it's having technical difficulties, but that's it. I think it's okay now.}}
==Changing the characters in front==
I haven't got much time to type this out, but I was wondering... We have the players' avatar parts in [[Player_(KHχ)|here]], and colour palettes for their hair and skin and stuff. I wonder if we could design some players for the front page? Is it possible to turn this thing into a contest of sorts, or would it be too complicated?
Obviously Ephemera and his Chirithy have to appear somewhere there as well. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 08:00, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
:We could have Ephemera, Chirithy and the robed figure as a trio on one side and on the other side, we could have Players. Rather than designing some Players specifically for the magazine, we could ask the wiki's KHX-playing editors to send a screenshot of their Players and we can crop it out for the main page. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 11:00, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
::Why don't we use some of the Foretellers? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 11:06, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
:::I considered that too, but we'd only have three of five Foretellers so some Unions might feel left out. Are there any "main" Unions or are they all on an equal standing to each other? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 11:08, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
::::Why not three Foretellers on one side and the other two + Ephemera/Chirithy/Unknown on the other? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 11:10, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
:As for designing new players for the front page: Let's just say it's not impossible but without deeper understanding about flash and the game's coding it would be a very complicated puzzle with hundreds of pieces that can change their sizes and orientations. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 12:11, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
I wasn't thinking so much about Flash or the game's coding (let's be honest, something like this would run from ActionScript, HTML5 or something of equal power, and could easily be ported to mobile devices). What I was thinking of, instead, was on these lines:
Have someone with Photoshop, use the colour palettes available here to modify skin, eyes and hair, and then match the costumes to the respective body. There, character is made! And besides, how gaily decorated a character is would depend on in-game purchases, something that not all of us could do. We stick with stuff that is readily available to us so as not to flout laws. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 12:16, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
:You're right, it's not that that complicated to change the hair or skin color but the costumes themselves are not made of one piece that is simply pasted over the body but every part (hat, boots, upper body etc.) consists of many different shapes, the images I uploaded here are just the preview pictures of the avatar menu not the whole costumes. Maybe I don't understand how you would change the costumes though. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 13:32, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
There's this picture from KHInsider; wonder if we could use the avatars here? '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 16:14, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
http://images.khinsider.com/KINGDOM%20HEARTS%20X/Screenshots/Unchained%20x%20E3/hole_-_avatar.jpg
Honestly, I don't think we should use random people's avatars (it feels a bit plagiarise-y). How about we use all five Foretellers and have three Foretellers + Chirithy on one side and two Foretellers + Ephemera on the other side? That excludes the robed figure, but he's already in the logo and he's not even a named character anyway. It also does mean that there's four characters on one side but Chirithy is teensy so it shouldn't look cluttered. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 17:28, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
:I agree with FM. We can't just go and use other people's avatars, and I'm sure nobody would mind having four (or three-and-a-half) characters on one side. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:35, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
Hang on, hang on, hang on: Plagiarise-y? The parts are predominantly from within ''Kingdom Hearts'' for crying out loud. Sure, there are some original-looking clothes, but then there are going to be people dressed up as Shiki and Neku and goodness knows who else.
I suppose if we created our own avatars, that'd work, but then someone else would complain that we "stole" their idea, when in actual fact, EVERYTHING COMES FROM SODDING SQUARE ENIX AND DISNEY. If this was Animal Crossing, where we could sew our actual own patterns on to dresses, then I'd be worried about plagiarism. Also, I would like to see Unchained X's terms and conditions; surely there have to be some around. There ''has'' to be a EULA for us to read, to see just how the avatars can be used etc. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 17:56, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
:I don't really see it as plagiarism, but if I were playing the game, I would create a unique (or as unique as possible) avatar, and it would be weird to see the exact same avatar on our Main Page. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:00, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
:::It's definitely legal to do, just maybe not in good taste. We could use our own avatars (which is why I proposed we use avatars of KHWikians who play the game) but I think it does have more sense to have the Foretellers on there. They're really plot-essential. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 18:04, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
::::These are not images of random avatars but promotional material by SquareEnix to display the new (and old) costumes. If we wanted to use the Foretellers the Clocktower scene would probably fitting, I uploaded it without background and in higher resolution [http://www.mediafire.com/view/blteb8559lylpzu/Foreteller_and_Unknown.png here]. It would also be possible to construct a similiar image with their Keyblades if needed. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 18:47, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
===Gathering Avatars===
Right now, I am scouring the Net for KHX avatars displayed on Famitsu and KHInsider news articles. I'll also be separating those from people who are playing KHX for KHInsider and who have uploaded their own avatars. Will share them once I've done all I can; I'd like to know what you folks think about what I'm about to gather and show. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 17:01, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
EDIT 17:07, 6 September 2015 (UTC): Lighter green BG = stuff from Famitsu and KHInsider news articles. Darker green BG = stuff from KHInsider users who are currently playing KHUX. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]'''
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo23/Troisnyx/From%20news%20articles_zpsrbaqdubg.png <br />
http://i358.photobucket.com/albums/oo23/Troisnyx/From%20KHInsider%20users_zpsysflxvtx.png
EDIT 17:52, 6 September 2015 (UTC): Never mind, let's forget this section even existed. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]'''
===Renewed Discussion===
I would like to renew the discussion of new character decals for use on the main page. I have a few ideas:
*The Foretellers on one side. Ephemera, Skuld, and the Nightmare Chirithy on the other.
**This one requires an update to the logo, I feel, to avoid redundancy (I personally don't like the idea of Ephemera appearing both on the main page and in the logo). What if we replaced Ephemera with the Player and alternated back-and-forth between male and female versions, kind of like we did with the various logos for our ''KHIIHD'' theme?
**Maybe in place of the Foretellers, we could use the symbols of each Union (the Stations of Awakening)?
*The ''KHX'' 1st Anniversary character artwork (extracted) on the left. The ''KHX'' 2nd Anniversary character artwork (extracted) on the right.
Thoughts? - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 12:23, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
:I don't really have any thoughts on the actual plan, but try to keep spoilers to a minimum. I don't play KHUX so I don't know if the existence of those characters are spoilery things or not, but it's just a reminder. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 18:27, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
::In my opinion, if Ephemera can be in the logo, he can be on the main page. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 19:32, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
:::I decided to go with the ''KHX'' 1st and 2nd Anniversary artwork because of the issues we were having with the Foretellers, Player avatars, and "spoiler-y" characters like Skuld and Ephemera. Here is what I came up with:
http://s9.postimg.org/ljf8av6r3/Screen_Shot_2016_04_13_at_4_57_27_PM.png<br>
:::Thoughts? I'd say it looks pretty good! - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 21:03, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
::::Wow, it looks great! :D--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:24, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::Thanks! The only thing that annoys me are the two Chirithys :P A few more supporting votes, and I'll consider this green-lighted and update the main page accordingly. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 21:33, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
It looks amazing! Really nicely done! (What is Riku wearing? O_o) {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 21:39, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
::Thanks! I believe it's supposed to be Goofy's outfit :P Shall I update the main page, then? - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 21:46, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
:::No, it's his normal KH1 outfit. The lighting in the picture just makes it look like it's colored differently. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 23:27, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
::::It actually is supposed to reflect Goofy's. The artwork posted by Nomura shows a Goofy hat and ears doodled on Riku. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 23:29, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
::::[http://images.khinsider.com/KINGDOM%20HEARTS%20X/Artwork/Promotional%20Media/1st%20Anniversary02.png Cute.] Thank you so much ENX!! It looks amazing I am so happy the main page looks centered again :') {{User:ANX219/Sig}} 23:36, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
:::::You're welcome, ANX. I'm happy to see it this way again, too! - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 00:59, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
::::Kairi's is supposed to be Donald, too.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:29, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
== Color Block ==
@Anyone who's good at coding: Can someone fix the Cleanup of the Month so that it is the correct color? I attempted to replicate the format of the others with this box but I failed and did not save my changes. Thanks! {{User:ANX219/Sig}} 15:35, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
:Fixed it! {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 15:50, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
::Thank you, TSH, you're my HERO. <s> is shot </s>Do you think you can fix the Mirage Arena headline as well? It seems to be a white bg only on RoundedBlue. (I don't know why). {{User:ANX219/Sig}} 16:14, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
:::I'm afraid I can't. I have no idea why it is not colored green and especially why only in RoundedBlue. Btw, it also happens to the SEIWA wiki links.
:::EDIT: I think it has something to do with the tables that those templates use. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 16:55, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
::::Bah humbug! I don't understand any of those tables! Thanks for your help! {{User:ANX219/Sig}} 18:04, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
==A Couple Pages Need To Be Deleted==
These two pages need to be deleted: χ (Disambiguation) and Twig. <br/>
I stumbled across the first one that needs to be deleted. There's already a χ (disambiguation), with the lower case "d", so there's no need for the one with the capital "D". <br/>
The second one I made as a redirect for [[Undead Pirate]] because on that page, it said one of the pirates names is "Twig." Turns out it was spelled incorrectly and it's actually "Twigg" (which I corrected). So since Twig is the incorrect spelling, the page should be deleted. <br/>
Thank you! --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 00:05, 19 January 2016 (UTC) <br/>
:We actually have a page for deletions [[KHWiki:Pages for deletion|here]]. {{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 05:07, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
Oh, okay thanks. --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 05:49, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
== Game portal gradients broken on Firefox ==
Just an FYI, the gradient background on game portal template (the timeline of games) doesn't show up on Firefox. It works in Chrome and Edge, per my test, but not Firefox. [[Special:Contributions/146.151.94.171|146.151.94.171]] 16:28, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
== Concert blurb ==
http://www.khinsider.com/news/SPOILERS-A-special-conversation-before-KINGDOM-HEARTS-0-2-Birth-By-Sleep-revealed-during-First-Breath-concert-6805
What are we doing with this, if anything?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:12, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
:Little blurb in the Trinity Archive box, maybe? {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 16:45, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
::Wasn't it just something Nomura did for fun for the fans - you know, as a way to say "thank you for attending"? So, it's not really canon, right? If that's the case, then there really isn't anything to do with it besides put in the TA.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:43, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
:::I'm not sure if it's canon or not. He just said it isn't in the game, but that doesn't mean it's non-canon. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 12:11, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
::::Hmm, that is true. It looks like an anonymous user already added the scene in Naminé's and the Lingering Will's pages, though.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:34, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
== This needs to be covered ==
http://www.khinsider.com/news/Kingdom-Hearts-Stain-Glass-Clock-Exhibition-Opens-at-Shinjuku-Station-on-Jan-9th-8021 {{unsigned|KrytenKoro}}
:A clock? --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 00:30, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
::The Dive to the Heart Stations artwork on the clocks. Did you click the link or just read it? [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 05:08, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
:::My question stands.  A clock?  Why do we need to cover a bunch of pointless merchandising?  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 19:33, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
::::Because it's OFFICIAL Dive to the Heart artwork. They may not be the characters' canon Stations, but it's still artwork, which we do cover. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 04:48, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::But we've already covered all the artwork present here.  It's the same stuff just cropped and pasted over stained glass patterns.  Anyone can do that with five minutes and a copy of photoshop.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 17:41, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::Dude, what part of OFFICIAL ARTWORK are you NOT getting? So what if the foreground character artwork is reused, the Station artwork in the background is the important part. Just look at Xion's, hers strangely ''doesn't'' feature Roxas. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 04:04, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::::You're starting to fucking bug me now.  Don't do that.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 07:47, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
:I disagree, the "new" Dive to the Heart stations are mere collages of already existing artwork and hardly canon when the central characters don't even have their eyes closed. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 07:40, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
::I second this.  It's just random merchandise.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 19:36, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
:Hm, why is it called a "memorial" clock when apparently nobody died? Semantics aside, it's a grandiose ad campaign in a major public area – I assume, Kryten, that you want this in the Trinity Archives? This is a pretty unique case, we haven't exactly set a precedent for running this kind of story on the main page before. Right now, I'm against it, but I'm curious as to why you'd like it featured, Kryten. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 05:13, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
::I wanted this covered as an actual article, because it's an official Kingdom Hearts production. We cover merch already, I'm not clear why this is different.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:19, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
::According to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, a "memorial" is "something, especially a structure, established to remind people of a person or event". Not necessarily in relation to someone dead. There ''is'' a [[Kingdom Hearts Ultimania#Kingdom Hearts Series Memorial Ultimania| Memorial Ultimania]] for the series, remember?. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 04:04, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
:::Not really?  ''Barely?''  I mean, we've covered the soundtracks, which are obviously directly tied to the games, the manga and the trading card game - remember that one lol? - but our stuff on merchandise is ''really super'' light.  I mean, look at the acrylic stands.  Those actually feature ''new artwork'' by Nomura, yet we didn't bother with them at all.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 17:41, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
::::To be fair, we have an article for [[The Sceptre and the Kingdom]], a non-canon promotional comic written and illustrated by non-Square personnel. This is an officially sanctioned promotion, we've got articles for things even more loosely related to KH. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 21:51, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2017-01-09/square-enix-displays-kingdom-hearts-stained-glass-clock-in-shinjuku-station/.110790 Anime News Network did an article about it], just to let you guys know.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:50, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
::::::Our scope ''includes'' all that merch. Not having an article about it ''yet'' is not the same as consensus that we ''should not'' have one.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:20, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
:::::::Well, it's ultimately your call lol.  If you feel it's important enough, then go right ahead and make a page on it.  Me personally though, this just falls a wee bit into the insignificant territory though - it's just clocks that reuse the same stock artwork, not much different from the million and one...I dunno, Pink Floyd clocks!  The only difference is that these are official SE merch.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 09:04, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
==KHUX==
Unchained X is under the "Re-releases and remakes" section of the home page, but we now know that it's actually a sequel to KHX that takes place in the Unchained realm, so shouldn't it be put under the "Timeline of the Kingdom Hearts series" section? --[[Special:Contributions/76.102.24.151|76.102.24.151]] 08:32, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
:What is the source, by the way?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 17:38, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
::Nomura, actually.  I definitely ''do'' recall him calling it a sequel, but I can't recall which interview it was.  Could be a mistranslation though - KH13 doesn't have the world's most reliable translators.  That said, even IF it is a sequel, it still doesn't entirely change its status as a remake of the browser game, since it adapts it beat by beat ''until'' it passes by it.  It's pretty difficult to classify, so, really, typical Nomura nonsense lol.  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 22:51, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
:::Sorry, it took me a while to find it. [http://www.khinsider.com/news/Expanded-Dengeki-Interview-with-Tetsuya-Nomura-on-KINGDOM-HEARTS-2-8-7963 Nomura: Ephemer and Skuld are becoming considerably more important in the second season of KH Unchained X. Although the story of KHX (PC) has concluded, the story of Unchained Chi exists in another dimension. The relationship around that will be told in the second season, so please wait for the next report.] --[[Special:Contributions/76.102.24.151|76.102.24.151]] 17:10, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
==Back Cover and the Timeline==
Since the story of Back Cover stretches back further and ends before KHχ, shouldn't it be listed first on the timeline? [[User:Bob4894|Bob4894]] ([[User talk:Bob4894|talk]]) 04:29, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
:Sounds good.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:43, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
:Do flashbacks count, though?  --[[User:Ignis|Ignis]] ([[User talk:Ignis|talk]]) 16:56, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
::Normally I would say no, but the flashbacks are like half of the movie. And since it still ends before I still think it should be listed first. [[User:Bob4894|Bob4894]] ([[User talk:Bob4894|talk]]) 14:47, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
:::Honestly, it wasn't clear to me if they were actually being portrayed as flashbacks, or just the timeline rewinding for each new chapter. The feeling that I got was more like each Case was like a step in a staircase -- overlapping the timeline of the previous case but just a wee bit shifted forward at the beginning and end each time.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 14:51, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
::::That's true, it basically zigziags back and forth throughout the story. Either way though, I think it should be listed before χ for the ending alone. The same idea as CoM going before 358. [[User:Bob4894|Bob4894]] ([[User talk:Bob4894|talk]]) 00:51, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
==Update==
Hey, guys, doesn't the front page, specifically the Featured Article and Media, needs to be updated? I don't think we've changed it since last year?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:38, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
:YES. Most definitely. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 08:37, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
::YAY! A reply! I was thinking, after seeing your Christmas theme, we choose articles to match. For Featured Media, maybe we can use Santa Claus, or one of Sora and co.'s Christmas forms, for example. And for Featured Article, maybe we change it to Christmas Town or Decisive Pumpkin. :)--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:53, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
== Maleficent and Jafar boss pages ==
We don't usually split different forms of the same entity (see [[Game:Xemnas]]). Why are these split?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 22:53, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
:I think because they are treated as separate characters in the journal. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 22:59, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
== KHUX characters ==
Characters like [[Samson]] -- I don't remember ever seeing them actually named, and I'm concerned this is a [[Glut]] situation. We need to go through all the KHUX character pages and confirm these names.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 23:04, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
== A couple changes ==
Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ should be under the "Timeline of the Kingdom Hearts series" section. It should be placed after Kingdom Hearts χ[chi] and before Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross]. It might not be a separate game than Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross], but it's still a separate title, and should be in the timeline alongside the other titles. It would make Kingdom Hearts III the 13th title in the series, which I believe is intentional. Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ is a sequel to Kingdom Hearts χ[chi], and Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross] is a continuation, as well as a rebranding, of Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ. Also, the name "Kingdom Hearts χ" should be changed to "Kingdom Hearts χ[chi]" and the name "Kingdom Hearts Union χ" should be changed to "Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross]". That's the games' proper titles. It's "Kingdom Hearts χ Back Cover", "Kingdom Hearts χ[chi]", Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ", and "Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross]". --[[Special:Contributions/73.71.161.160|73.71.161.160]] 05:26, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
:We actually just had a discussion about this last month on our forums, see [[Forum:The Unchained / Union X Situation|here]]. Basically, although I think we should split them up as well, it's kinda hard to determine exactly what is ''Unchained χ'' and what is ''Union χ'' in terms of story, which is probably the most important part, because the rebranding was rolled out simultaneously in the Japanese and global versions, but both were in different locations in the story. I can't remember the exact quest numbers, but they are significantly different. So despite the fact that they are different game titles, because ''Union χ'' was rolled out as just an update, it's very hard to differentiate it from ''Unchained χ''. We've opted instead to refer to the two collectively as ''Union χ'', which is what Square Enix is also doing (see timeline on [http://www.kingdomhearts.com the official website], which references ''Union χ'', but doesn't mention ''Unchained χ''. The Japanese website is more detailed but also doesn't mention ''Unchained χ''). As for the titles, there's actually an issue with the MediaWiki software (the software that runs our wiki and others like Wikipedia). It can't handle (at least not now) titles with brackets "[]" in them, because brackets are used so often in wikitext, such as when making links and assigning categories. So we can't actually rename the pages as ''Kingdom Hearts χ[chi]'', ''Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ[chi]'', ''Kingdom Hearts Union χ[cross]'', etc. Technically, Dream Drop Distance is officially ''Kingdom Hearts [Dream Drop Distance]'', but we can't do that, either. There's really no work around for it. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 16:22, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
::Since the main page now has a separate "Updates and Remakes" section, shouldn't Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross] be moved to that section and Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ be put in its place where it was in the Timeline section? Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross] is to Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ what Kingdom Hearts III Re Mind is to Kingdom Hearts III. An update that changes the title screen with a new name and continues the story with new content. The Timeline section should be "Kingdom Hearts χ Back Cover, Kingdom Hearts χ[chi], Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ, Kingdom Hearts Dark Road, Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep", etc. And the Updates and Remakes Section should be "Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross], Kingdom Hearts Final Mix, Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories", etc. Kingdom Hearts Unchained χ and Kingdom Hearts Union χ[Cross] might not be two different games, but they are indeed two separate titles and should both be represented on the main page with all the other titles, especially if you are now including updates and remakes. --[[Special:Contributions/108.248.164.72|108.248.164.72]] 02:05, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
:::See KSM's reply right above your comment. Unchained X got renamed to Union X, so it's the same game. Re Mind is still separate from KH3. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:34, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
::::Unchained χ and Union χ[Cross] are the same game, but two separate titles. I thought the icons on the main page were all of the KH titles, not just the games. Or else χ Back Cover and Re Mind wouldn't be on there. χ Back Cover is a movie, not a game, and Re Mind is a DLC extension of KH3, not a whole separate game. And Union χ[Cross] is a downloadable extension and rebranding of Unchained χ. The first half of the game is still referred to as Unchained χ. Technically, if someone downloaded Unchained χ before it was rebranded to Union χ[Cross] and they chose to never update their game, they would still have Unchained χ. That's still technically what the non-updated vanilla base game is called. It's still a title that happened and counts. You're acting like Union χ[Cross] is just a renaming of Unchained χ, but it's also an extension with continued story. It was advertised as a sort of "season two" of Unchained χ. Also, one of the sections on the front page is called "Updates and Remakes." Union χ[Cross] is an update, is it not? --[[Special:Contributions/108.248.164.131|108.248.164.131]] 12:37, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
:::::Unchained χ is a forced update though, even if you had a version prior to 2.3.0/2.5.0 you wouldn't be able to play it. The whole situation was a nightmare, that's why we voted to replace Unchained χ icon with Union χ icon. Everything that is part of Unchained χ is part of Union χ now. The same can't be said about Re Mind which is mostly separate from KHIII. I don't have anything against adding the Unchained icon back to the timeline and putting the Union icon in the update section though. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 17:04, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
Weren't they originally listed as separate titles? I can't recall since at the time I didn't really do much than just refer to this wiki now and again, but I think they were. And honestly, with a ''second'' rebranding on the horizon, it's gonna be difficult to keep track of everything otherwise. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 17:48, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
== Making articles? ==
I can’t seem to find any option anywhere to create pages (outside of clicking on links for articles that don’t exist). Help me out please?
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:If you search for the name of the page you want to make, it will say "Create the page ... on this wiki!" You just click the red link and create the page. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 15:58, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
== "Get Started Helping" ==
We probably already have this, but if not, can we have a forward-facing page that has links to the main maintenance pages, for editors who want to help? I know I often forget this stuff.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:43, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
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