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==Xehanort renders== | ==Xehanort renders== | ||
I think they make a good addition to the page, at least until we ''finally'' decide to update it. I don't find them to be an eyesore. {{The Inexistentsig}} 19:03, 14 April 2012 (UTC) | I think they make a good addition to the page, at least until we ''finally'' decide to update it. I don't find them to be an eyesore. {{The Inexistentsig}} 19:03, 14 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
::I do, especially since they're not even official. Since it's our ''KH3D'' theme, we should at least make it Sora and Riku, or the Wandanyan and Komori Bat. It's more fitting than randomly plopping Terranort and Xehanort on there. - | ::I do, especially since they're not even official. Since it's our ''KH3D'' theme, we should at least make it Sora and Riku, or the Wandanyan and Komori Bat. It's more fitting than randomly plopping Terranort and Xehanort on there. - <span>[[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]] [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="peru">'''Eternal'''</font>]] [[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Nothingness'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="saddlebrown">'''XIII'''</font>]] [[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]]</span> 20:43, 14 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::I always thought that the Xehanort render is one of the best ever created, I'd really love to see a more prominent place for it. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 14:31, 15 April 2012 (UTC) | :::I always thought that the Xehanort render is one of the best ever created, I'd really love to see a more prominent place for it. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 14:31, 15 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
::::I think it looks great. Sora and Riku already own the logo, let's give the villains a place to shine. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 14:36, 15 April 2012 (UTC) | ::::I think it looks great. Sora and Riku already own the logo, let's give the villains a place to shine. {{User:LightRoxas/Sig}} 14:36, 15 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::::Considering that I'm rarely on the Main Page anymore, I think it looks fine. It makes people think "Oh damn, they have renders. This must be a professional site." <small><small><small><small>Maybe. *sniff* Maybe.</small></small></small></small> {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 14:59, 15 April 2012 (UTC) | :::::Considering that I'm rarely on the Main Page anymore, I think it looks fine. It makes people think "Oh damn, they have renders. This must be a professional site." <small><small><small><small>Maybe. *sniff* Maybe.</small></small></small></small> {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 14:59, 15 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
::::::Then we should be using the bloody ''official'' renders! The ability to extract and animate a render from game coding has nothing whatsoever to do with professionalism. I don't care how "cool" the one of Xehanort holding a heart is to people. It just looks so weird the way we randomly plop them, of all characters, on the page. The renders should at least have relevance to the Wiki-theme, which is, in this case, ''KH3D''. If you're all so adamant on using Xehanort incarnations, why not just use Xemnas and Ansem, Seeker of Darkness? - | ::::::Then we should be using the bloody ''official'' renders! The ability to extract and animate a render from game coding has nothing whatsoever to do with professionalism. I don't care how "cool" the one of Xehanort holding a heart is to people. It just looks so weird the way we randomly plop them, of all characters, on the page. The renders should at least have relevance to the Wiki-theme, which is, in this case, ''KH3D''. If you're all so adamant on using Xehanort incarnations, why not just use Xemnas and Ansem, Seeker of Darkness? - <span>[[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]] [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="peru">'''Eternal'''</font>]] [[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Nothingness'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="saddlebrown">'''XIII'''</font>]] [[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]]</span> 19:35, 15 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
I have prepared models of the main page using the three of my suggestions: | I have prepared models of the main page using the three of my suggestions: | ||
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*[http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x344/TheFinalFantasyXD/?action=view¤t=KHWikiMainPage1.png#!oZZ1QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs1177.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx344%2FTheFinalFantasyXD%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DKHWikiMainPage3.png Option III - Ansem and Xemnas] | *[http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x344/TheFinalFantasyXD/?action=view¤t=KHWikiMainPage1.png#!oZZ1QQcurrentZZhttp%3A%2F%2Fs1177.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx344%2FTheFinalFantasyXD%2F%3Faction%3Dview%26current%3DKHWikiMainPage3.png Option III - Ansem and Xemnas] | ||
I personally prefer Option I or II, but I'm willing to compromise and live with III... - | I personally prefer Option I or II, but I'm willing to compromise and live with III... - <span>[[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]] [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="peru">'''Eternal'''</font>]] [[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Nothingness'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="saddlebrown">'''XIII'''</font>]] [[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]]</span> 19:35, 15 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
:I'm sorry, this is off-topic, but...damn, how small ''is'' your monitor, ENX? [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 19:43, 15 April 2012 (UTC) | :I'm sorry, this is off-topic, but...damn, how small ''is'' your monitor, ENX? [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 19:43, 15 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
::Calm down, ENX. We're all friends here. | ::Calm down, ENX. We're all friends here. | ||
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*[http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x344/TheFinalFantasyXD/?action=view¤t=KHWikiMainPage4.png Click Me] | *[http://s1177.photobucket.com/albums/x344/TheFinalFantasyXD/?action=view¤t=KHWikiMainPage4.png Click Me] | ||
Honestly, I quite like the way this looks. But here's another idea: Since the current Wiki-theme is emphasizing the Square-created characters so heavily and there's no way to persuade me to not fight against the usage of the Xehanort images, why not just use a Disney character, like Mickey or Yen Sid, who is still relevant but belongs to neither category? Even a plain old Moogle would suffice... We seem to be using these images simply because they're "unique" in comparison to the same, dry, official ones, why not just use characters who would stand out against the surplus of Square's? - | Honestly, I quite like the way this looks. But here's another idea: Since the current Wiki-theme is emphasizing the Square-created characters so heavily and there's no way to persuade me to not fight against the usage of the Xehanort images, why not just use a Disney character, like Mickey or Yen Sid, who is still relevant but belongs to neither category? Even a plain old Moogle would suffice... We seem to be using these images simply because they're "unique" in comparison to the same, dry, official ones, why not just use characters who would stand out against the surplus of Square's? - <span>[[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]] [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="peru">'''Eternal'''</font>]] [[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Nothingness'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="saddlebrown">'''XIII'''</font>]] [[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]]</span> 00:49, 16 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
:At least in my view, the reason these two are most appropriate is: | :At least in my view, the reason these two are most appropriate is: | ||
#Unlike the other suggestions, these characters are posed to ''specifically highlight and draw attention to the welcome notice''. They point the viewer to it, rather than just being fluff for hte sake of fluff. | #Unlike the other suggestions, these characters are posed to ''specifically highlight and draw attention to the welcome notice''. They point the viewer to it, rather than just being fluff for hte sake of fluff. | ||
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*True, this is not one of the articles, but the main page is the "first impression" our readers/visitors get of our site. We want to "advertise" that we're serious about the ''Kingdom Hearts'' series and promise reliable, ''official'' content right from the very get-go. The usage of these images contradicts everything we stand for in my opinion, and quite honestly, I wouldn't want to delve deeper into a site that is so unprofessional with its images and how they're handled. You may as well cover the entire main page in fanart and unofficial content. I'm not buying your "various featured sections" argument, either, simply on the grounds that we use these sections to "advertise" ''official'' content, for the most part. | *True, this is not one of the articles, but the main page is the "first impression" our readers/visitors get of our site. We want to "advertise" that we're serious about the ''Kingdom Hearts'' series and promise reliable, ''official'' content right from the very get-go. The usage of these images contradicts everything we stand for in my opinion, and quite honestly, I wouldn't want to delve deeper into a site that is so unprofessional with its images and how they're handled. You may as well cover the entire main page in fanart and unofficial content. I'm not buying your "various featured sections" argument, either, simply on the grounds that we use these sections to "advertise" ''official'' content, for the most part. | ||
::I truly do not mean to be as antagonistic or difficult as I seem to be coming across with all of this. I truly hope we can reach some sort of middle-ground. - | ::I truly do not mean to be as antagonistic or difficult as I seem to be coming across with all of this. I truly hope we can reach some sort of middle-ground. - <span>[[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]] [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="peru">'''Eternal'''</font>]] [[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Nothingness'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="saddlebrown">'''XIII'''</font>]] [[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]]</span> 14:14, 16 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
It's just two pictures. Nothing big. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 14:26, 16 April 2012 (UTC) | It's just two pictures. Nothing big. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 14:26, 16 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
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*There is no appearance of Terra-Xehanort at all in ''KH3D'', and the most you ever see of Xehanort is his hand. If you're trying to suggest relevance to ''KH3D'' and the whole "forms of Xehanort" thing without spoiling the game, then use forms with more prominence, like Ansem and Xemnas, as I suggested. If you must used a posed T-render, I see no reason why one could not be produced. | *There is no appearance of Terra-Xehanort at all in ''KH3D'', and the most you ever see of Xehanort is his hand. If you're trying to suggest relevance to ''KH3D'' and the whole "forms of Xehanort" thing without spoiling the game, then use forms with more prominence, like Ansem and Xemnas, as I suggested. If you must used a posed T-render, I see no reason why one could not be produced. | ||
And that's that. Tune in next week when "Battle of the Main Page Xehanort Renders" continues >_> - | And that's that. Tune in next week when "Battle of the Main Page Xehanort Renders" continues >_> - <span>[[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]] [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="peru">'''Eternal'''</font>]] [[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Nothingness'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="saddlebrown">'''XIII'''</font>]] [[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]]</span> 22:16, 16 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
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I hate to be the one pointing this out, but I believe that the reason behind them being an "eyesore" to you, ENX, is due to your small screen resolution and web browser. IE improperly wraps the text, based upon the images provided. Even in my strange screen resolution (1366x786), the main page looks quite good. [http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab82/KRCCFNF/PorleEnX.png I see no problems.] {{The Inexistentsig}} 04:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC) | I hate to be the one pointing this out, but I believe that the reason behind them being an "eyesore" to you, ENX, is due to your small screen resolution and web browser. IE improperly wraps the text, based upon the images provided. Even in my strange screen resolution (1366x786), the main page looks quite good. [http://i852.photobucket.com/albums/ab82/KRCCFNF/PorleEnX.png I see no problems.] {{The Inexistentsig}} 04:16, 17 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
:Okay, how about we use [[User:Erry/Main Page|this]] then? If everyone is okay with it, that is. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 06:31, 17 April 2012 (UTC) | :Okay, how about we use [[User:Erry/Main Page|this]] then? If everyone is okay with it, that is. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 06:31, 17 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
::Not a big fan of that big space between the images and the logo, but I'll live with it. Yes, yes, YES!!! - | ::Not a big fan of that big space between the images and the logo, but I'll live with it. Yes, yes, YES!!! - <span>[[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]] [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="peru">'''Eternal'''</font>]] [[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Nothingness'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="saddlebrown">'''XIII'''</font>]] [[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]]</span> 13:47, 17 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::I still like the Xehanort images better. They diversify the theme and show off our community. [[Special:Contributions/67.52.57.114|67.52.57.114]] 16:55, 17 April 2012 (UTC) | :::I still like the Xehanort images better. They diversify the theme and show off our community. [[Special:Contributions/67.52.57.114|67.52.57.114]] 16:55, 17 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
::::We could always make a version with KH3D Antagonists, this is just the first draft, with the protagonists. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 01:07, 18 April 2012 (UTC) | ::::We could always make a version with KH3D Antagonists, this is just the first draft, with the protagonists. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 01:07, 18 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
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{{LightRoxas|riku=Lookin' good! I would definitely feel compelled to spend time here if I saw that.}} | {{LightRoxas|riku=Lookin' good! I would definitely feel compelled to spend time here if I saw that.}} | ||
I just wish there was a way to move the "Featured" sections down without totally destroying the page so we could get Sora to the right far enough where we could fight "Kingdom Hearts Wiki" between him and Riku (so they're framing the logo), and then have the welcome notice directly beneath the images. But other than that, I'm really liking this, Erry! - | I just wish there was a way to move the "Featured" sections down without totally destroying the page so we could get Sora to the right far enough where we could fight "Kingdom Hearts Wiki" between him and Riku (so they're framing the logo), and then have the welcome notice directly beneath the images. But other than that, I'm really liking this, Erry! - <span>[[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]] [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="peru">'''Eternal'''</font>]] [[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Nothingness'''</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="saddlebrown">'''XIII'''</font>]] [[File:Terra Master Symbol.png|17px]]</span> 19:27, 19 April 2012 (UTC) | ||
OR we could actually finish remodeling the main page as opposed to slightly changing the aesthetics. {{The Inexistentsig}} 20:31, 19 April 2012 (UTC) | OR we could actually finish remodeling the main page as opposed to slightly changing the aesthetics. {{The Inexistentsig}} 20:31, 19 April 2012 (UTC) |