Editing Talk:Luxu

Isn't it a bit premature to render out the character's name as 'Luxu', or has there been an actual official English printing of the name as such? I ask, because 'luxuria' is normally rendered as ルクスリア, and ルシュ doesn't quite match. [[Special:Contributions/82.36.144.164|82.36.144.164]] 17:45, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
:Which translation would you propose? We're going with this one because it fits the scheme, most of the fanbase uses it and there is a [http://i.imgur.com/rQfmf6U.png hint] in the game files. The official translation is still 2-3 months away at this point. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 08:27, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
:: I was just thinking it's a bit odd to jump to such a spelling straight away considering the name is so particularly off from 'Luxuria' in comparison to the other names. But if it's really spelled as such in the game's actual files, then that's not a 'hint' - that ''is'' the name's spelling. It honestly looked like popular speculation before I saw that because absolutely nobody had sourced such a reason for the transcription. [[Special:Contributions/86.169.168.61|86.169.168.61]] 14:35, 20 July 2016 (UTC) (same peep, different building)
:::"Hint" because nothing in the game files should be taken at face value (expect the dialogue script of course), for example Aced is only referred to as "wolf". --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 16:47, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
::::"Note: This information is based on an unofficial translation of Japanese material, and it may be changed by later publications."
::::Not only are we not claiming that "Luxu" is the definitive romanized name, the first thing the reader will read is that it is a ''translation''. Furthermore, we're not going to name the article "ルシュ". It's silly to do so.
::::Translation is a concept that exists.[[Special:Contributions/67.236.72.165|67.236.72.165]] 17:37, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

==Goat for Lust==

In the current Seven Deadly sins, they correspond to the animals; toad = avarice; snake = envy; lion = wrath; snail = sloth; pig = gluttony; goat = lust; peacock = pride. So essentially, even with the confirmation his Keyblade is a Goat, he still correlates to the correct animal. Here is the source, based on an image to the right - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_deadly_sins#Origin_of_the_currently_recognized_Seven_Deadly_Sins --[[User:Blaid|Blaid]] ([[User talk:Blaid|talk]]) 21:52, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

==Not in the Keyblade War==
In the begin of BbS 0.2 Luxu are not seeing the end of the Keyblade War, but the end of the battle against Xehanort in BbS, I know seems impossible, but in the cinematic there is the big mountain CREATED by Xehanort, during the Keyblade War that mountain didn't exist, the field was totally smooth.--[[Special:Contributions/151.31.35.111|151.31.35.111]] 07:24, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
::There are a lot of mountains on that world.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:20, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
:::Not in the battlefield, and that is the same mountain of Xehanort, right under KH--[[Special:Contributions/151.31.35.111|151.31.35.111]] 19:46, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
:::I resee the scene, and the Keyblades are too corroded by time, so they aren't there recently... if you don't belive me, go to see the battlefield BEFORE Xehanort crete the mountain and tell me where you see a mountain there...--[[Special:Contributions/151.31.35.111|151.31.35.111]] 19:52, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
::::But how can he still have the No Name after BbS if it was already passed on to Xehanort? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 20:51, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
:::::I don't know... a lot of things are not clear until now... but is possible he can use the time travel, not sure, but we can see clearly that mountain is the one made by Xehanort, I was really surprised too, but that is a clear proof of when the scene happen.--[[Special:Contributions/151.31.35.111|151.31.35.111]] 21:02, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
::::::In my book, saying "I don't know" after a theory such as yours, removes ALL the credibility you have. Remember, just because you ''perceive'' something as proof, doesn't mean it IS proof. [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 02:42, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
:::::::I think there are two possible explanations:
:::::::1. It's really an error that the mountain already existed, but since it's used in all other Keyblade Graveyard scenes (except in KHX), it was put in here too.
:::::::2. The scenes does take place after BBS, maybe it even takes place at the same time as 0.2 and there is a reason Luxu got the Keyblade back. Maybe it has something to do with the conclusion of KHUX and maybe this is the reason we see this scene at the start of 0.2 and not at the end of Back Cover.
:::::::How the Kingdom Hearts forms in KHX is slightly different from how it happens in this scene, if it's really the same time. In KHX we see hundreds of hearts flowing in the sky and Kingdom Hearts shining down only when every one disappeared. In this scene Kingdom Hearts seems already to be there, just taking in some additional hearts. All in all everything is very speculative, because we know so little of Luxu and Back Cover ended before the actual finale.--{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 06:41, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

::::::::I said "I don't know" because in fact I DON'T KNOW, what do you aspect I can tell to you "He can travel in time ecc..." I cannot know if he can really make this, don't exist any official confirmation. Probably will be revelaed in KH3 or in a future update of Union X why Luxu was there after the Battle of BbS. But the fact that is the mountain created by Xehanort, you cannot say "Ah just ignore it, is an error", because, how you know this? Square already done updates to fix errors like Ventus-Vanitas in the begin, why not this? Say now "That is the War of Keyblade 100% sure" is wrong, because even put the possibility that what I'm saying will be reveled correct, then the wiki wirte something wrong even when was the proff about that was wrong in 2017.--[[Special:Contributions/93.150.192.11|93.150.192.11]] 18:28, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

::::::::Damn, why you continue to revert what I'm doing? At least write "A battle" without specify WHAT battle, you cannot just say "that is an error, we are right and that is the Keyblade War, fuck Nomura" that is misinformation!--[[Special:Contributions/93.150.192.11|93.150.192.11]] 18:39, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::User:93.150.192.11, to prevent edit-warring, please settle the discussion first on the talk page before making any changes. A lot of what you're saying sounds a lot like speculation and conjecture, and speculation is strictly against the wiki's policies. As TSH pointed out, the timeline doesn't really add to your conclusions, as Luxu is no longer in possession of the No Name Keyblade, as Xehanort has it now.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:44, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

::::::::::I'm not making speculation, THAT is the mountain created by Xehanort, I know that is for what we know Luxu cannot have the Keyblade, but the fact show he have the Keyblade and that is the BbS era, since the mountain is THERE. Just say "after a battle" is not speculation, is a thing that we all agreed, but say "after Keyblade War" is even WORST of a speculation, because is a missinformation since the mountain made by Xehanort is THERE, and you are just ignoring the existance of that mountain to add the information that YOU WANT, not what the official data show to us.<br>
The mountain made by Xehanort is there? Yes<br>
Luxu is there with the MX's Keyblade? Yes<br>
Can be the Keyblade War? NO! Because in KW that mountain DON'T EXIST<br>
How Luxu can be there with the Keyblade I don't know, I'm not in the Nomura's brain, I don't know what he will do in UNC or in KH3, but with official data, exactly, OFFICIAL data, we know that CANNOT be the KW.<br>
For sure just right "Luxu was there after A BATTLE" is more correct then say "after the Keyblade War" since that mountain proof that is not the KW.--[[Special:Contributions/93.150.192.11|93.150.192.11]] 18:58, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::::But you ARE making speculation. Pointing out the similarity of A ROCK is not proof. If you want to prove us wrong and yourself right, come back with a comparison of the 0.2, BBS, and KH2FM Keyblade Graveyards STRAIGHT from the game data, showing beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are IDENTICAL. Or, find an interview, written or video, that confirms, in no uncertain terms, that Luxu was there at the point in time you say he was. I (and solely I,) will ONLY accept one of these as "proof". [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 03:44, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
:::The game says this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/201764981601992705/323955211720720404/20170612_184200.jpg
:::It talks about the world coming to an end and Kingdom Hearts enveloping everything in sight, which is ''not'' what happened in BbS.
:::If it was the summoning from BbS, you'd see the battle taking place. It's ''way'' more believable that this is simply a different pile of rocks than that the cataclysmic battle and what the script describes as a "lightstorm" is simply not visible from Luxu's angle. If it's indeed the same pile of rocks, then Luxu's position should be ''exactly'' where Braig was fighting the heroes. Seriously, Master Xehanort raised that pile of rocks with a wave of his hand, so clearly it's not impossible for someone else to have raised it and put it back down at another time -- or for it to be a separate pile of rocks in a different location in the vast graveyard.
:::For the claim that in KW the mountain "doesn't exist" -- the entire story behind the ravaged landscape of the Keyblade Graveyard is that that was done by the Keyblade War. The topography of the land itself was changed in a monumental battle. No feature of the landscape should be treated as a permanent fixture in the context of events that literally reshaped the land, over and over again.
:::There's simply no way it's the BbS battle, and given that the script specifically talks about "the world coming to an end" -- something that's only happened once, at the end of the Keyblade War -- it indicates that's the timing of this scene.
:::''Maybe'' this is set at the end of the second Keyblade War, which Xehanort is trying to bring about in KH3 -- though it wouldn't make much sense for the report to be talking about "the world", when the world stopped existing long ago. ''Maybe''. But it ain't BbS.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 00:24, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

==Master Rank==
I finally found the interview where it's stated that the Foretellers are Keyblade Masters, but the interview doesn't clarify if Luxu is a Keyblade Master as well. Reasonably, it could be assumed he is a Master Keyblade, as he is also a disciple of the Masters of Master, but that would just be conjecture. I don't recall there being any official confirmation that explicitly states that Luxu is a Keyblade Master, is there?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:51, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
:The script calls him "Master Luxu".{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 11:55, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

== Merge with Braig ==

So, first off, the lead should definitely say that he inhabits the body of Braig since BBS. Secondly -- given that, per the Secret Report, we have ''only ever'' seen Braig while being a vessel for Luxu, should Braig have a page at all?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:39, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
::In my opinion, yes. The way I see it, this article is about the Luxu who lived during the age of fairy tales. Braig is the body he inhabited several vessels later. That is a different body, and while Luxu at heart, effectively a different person, who then becomes Xigbar. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 03:02, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
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 So, first off, the lead should definitely say that he inhabits the body of Braig since BBS. Secondly -- given that, per the Secret Report, we have ''only ever'' seen Braig while being a vessel for Luxu, should Braig have a page at all?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:39, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
 ::In my opinion, yes. The way I see it, this article is about the Luxu who lived during the age of fairy tales. Braig is the body he inhabited several vessels later. That is a different body, and while Luxu at heart, effectively a different person, who then becomes Xigbar. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 03:02, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
-==Luxu's Face==
-Could we maybe mention the fact that "Luxu's face" was included in his KH0.2 render according to the datamine? Perhaps even include the image in the gallery? Hard to say whether or not it was meant to be a finalized design, but it's definitely Trivia worthy at the very least ([[User:Levi657|Levi657]] ([[User talk:Levi657|talk]]) 22:01, 21 March 2019 (UTC))
-== Xigbar/Braig ==
-Remember, guys, unless we decide to merge Xigbar/Braig in, they are considered ''distinct entities'', similar to Xehanort and Terra-Xehanort. We can't be certain that the spatial powers were originally Luxu's, or if he gained them when he stole the original Braig's body.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:42, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
-== Story section ==
-Shouldn't Luxu's story section end with him possessing Braig and everything Luxu does in Braig/Xigbar's body go to their respective pages? - {{User:JTD95/Signature}} 09:50, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
-:Yes.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 11:56, 10 June 2019 (UTC)