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| {{LapisScarab|time=03:28, August 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=Luxord only writes a couple of Secret Reports, but [[Secret Reports#Day 173: The Gamble|one of them]] caught my eye. Luxord talks about envying "the children" (probably Roxas and Xion), because they are more innocent and don't see life as a "gamble". That's probably worth mentioning in the personality section.}} | | {{LapisScarab|time=03:28, August 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=Luxord only writes a couple of Secret Reports, but [[Secret Reports#Day 173: The Gamble|one of them]] caught my eye. Luxord talks about envying "the children" (probably Roxas and Xion), because they are more innocent and don't see life as a "gamble". That's probably worth mentioning in the personality section.}} |
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| Okay.... This is officially ''that moment''. People have been speculating whether it was Luxord in Re Mind's secret ending since they heard Robin Atkin Downes's voice for the driver, but watching the [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmbPzKTb_aQ Japanese version]]....and it's 100% George Nakata voicing the driver as well - you simply can't ''speculate'' with that man's voice no less than you can Morgan Freeman's - you hear it, it's ''him.'' So.....now the question is how do we implement it into the wiki? Too big to ignore, too vague to state outright it's one thing or another. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 04:46, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
| | {{ParadiseFusion15|text= I have a theory that may prove Luxord to be a member. Before fighting Sora, Xemnas says that some were not worthy of the Organization and never accomplished their goal, which was Kingdom Hearts. Technically, Kingdom Hearts was complete when Sora entered TWTNW, and it could be part of YX saying that Roxas was a worthy candidate, as he was alive during TWTNW events, until he reunited with Sora. Luxord, along with Saix, Xemnas, and Xigbar, who are in fact members of this new organization, was one of the last to go. Plus, we don't know of his whereabouts, but that's the same for Marluxia, Larxene, etc. As for chances, not very good, as this theory is merely speculation.}} |
| :While I agree that the driver is most likely Luxord there is still a slim chance that it means nothing. For comparison both Riku’s English and Japanese voice actors provided the voice of Young Xehanort in BbS without it having any deeper significant. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] ([[User talk:JTD95|talk]]) 08:44, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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| ::Riku and Xehanort don't look alike though. That casting choice was made squarely out of convenience, and it was rectified in the HD remixes. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 13:00, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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| :::Point is this could also just be a placeholder voice. And we see so little of the driver that we can’t claim he looks like Luxord. Again, I agree that it most likely is him, but as of now it’s only speculation.
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| :::Edit: at most I think we can add to the trivia section that both of Luxord’s VAs provide the voice for the drive on the An Oath To Return page, but I don’t think it should be mentioned on Luxord’s page. - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] ([[User talk:JTD95|talk]]) 15:36, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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| ::::If we have confirmation for the VAs, then we could add it to the Secret Ending page, but I don't believe we do, so we can't add it. You can say that you're sure it's Luxord's VA, but we need proof. The only thing we have is Robin Atkin Downes replying "It sounds like me" when asked about it. And that's not enough. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 15:48, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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| :::::I've already brought this topic up on the [https://www.khwiki.com/Talk:An_Oath_to_Return#The_Driver? An Oath to Return talk page]. While it's okay to theorise whom the driver is, flat out saying that it's "''in fact''" Luxord is just taking a massive leap of faith. While I do agree with the theories that it may indeed be him, as ''mindbendingly obvious'' as it seems, until Nomura or SE say this is Luxord, we can't say it is. [[User:CrinosWolf500|CrinosWolf500]] ([[User talk:CrinosWolf500|talk]]) 15:55, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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| :::::How about a linkback of some sort then? I remember about a year ago when Lauriam first showed up in UX, we didn't have a confirmation of who he was....despite it being so hilariously, painfully obvious. So the pages simply linked back to each other without stating anything. Marluxia linked to Lauriam, and vice versa. Granted for that, we'll need a page for the driver....but lol, do we have enough on the dude to actually make one? He...has similar hair to Luxord, he's an officer of some sort since he refers to Yozora as a commander, and....he drives....good lol? --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 16:01, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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| By the by, can someone on here with a TV Tropes account do me a super duper favor? Can you please fix [[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/KingdomHeartsOrganizationXIII Luxord's entry]]. I know it's got nothing to do with the wiki here, but it's ''driving me mental''. The capitalization of "somebody" really, '''''really''''' triggers me in particular lmao. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 16:07, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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| ::::::The big difference here is that we got a full look at Lauriam, plus the whole anagram of his name + X matched with Marluxia. We can hardly see the driver, we don't know his name, there's no official source for his VA, so it really would be speculation to even link to Luxord. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 16:19, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
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