Editing Talk:List of Gummi Ship Blueprints (KH)

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==List of KH Models==

...And you get the point. Are there any stats TNE or myself missed that need to be [[Template:GummiShipKH|added to the coding]]? Also, how do we plan on incorporating such a large table into the current article?--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 13:36, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

:::So you want to include every block's image instead of just the description? Some ships contain over twenty different block types, I think the table would get too big in their cases. But maybe I didnt completely understand how you would list them. Could you make a quick example?<br />

:::Also there is no easy way to include the FM versions of the blue prints because the enemy ships have different appearances in KHFM their stats and blocks are also mostly different, but this can wait for now because I have to get the blueprint images first. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 17:53, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

:::I can't give an example but what I meant is a table similar to those of the Treasure tables, where it says "Command", "Map" etc. would be where the Block image is located, while the actual block name and amount is where the "location" is, and it would repeat with just those two columns. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 18:09, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

::::I see and that can defintely be done, but it will get messy if we have a ship with 20+ different blocks because then the template will be blown out of proportion even if we use four columns instead of two, a collapsible table could help here. But would that really be necessary? I mean it looks kinda messy now (the Ultimania uses the same style by the way) but its not really that of an important information that we need sort and present it, or is it? If you're missing one treasure chest that is one thing, but can't image someone searching for a gummi block missing on his ship and not finding it. I don't know, what do you think Xion4ever? --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 20:57, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

:I know I said a month, but I didn't want to wait until the whole article had been done first:

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Like this, basically:

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Should we have a gallery or what? I get rather lost on what I need to find and looking to probably set things right here in this imageless page. [[User:LexisMikaya|LexisMikaya]] ([[User talk:LexisMikaya|talk]]) 07:06, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

:here's my take on it:

Slightly expanded to have a Japanese/Katakana and romanji box. Still working on how put the name in a better place. I feel it's a bit weird :x [[User:LexisMikaya|LexisMikaya]] ([[User talk:LexisMikaya|talk]]) 19:22, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

:Good work, this looks promising. I think the name box is big enough to hold both the katakana and the romanjii, what do you think? Also some of the models change their apperance along the corresponding enemies in the Final Mix version, so an image tab would be needed. --[[Special:Contributions/77.184.71.226|77.184.71.226]] 19:42, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

:::::I'll probably start doing renders from the scans provided. Of course, I'm not going to do them all at once @~@. Maybe a few a day and I will eventually do enemies as well. Still sorting them out so I don't accidentally mix them up. What about the ones that are different from from KH to KHFM? Will that be a separate template or just simply tabbed (probably more than likely tabbed)?  [[User:LexisMikaya|まそっぷ ！]] ([[User talk:LexisMikaya|talk]]) 09:31, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I updated the template and after several tries it's now able to show a FM image:

I also just noticed that we need a different block list for the FM variant, so maybe we should tab the whole template instead. {{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 10:52, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

:Looks like the best thing to do is to get the whole template tabbed out. Should probably figure out how to put a notes section too, but that's just me being super specific about having ''everything'' on one template for a large page of templates. While it's no necessary, I, personally, feel that it might be a bit useful to note a few things such as how Alexander FM is 199 block and is much more sturdy than most ships. On the other hand, Omega lacks a cockpit, engine, and weapons. Just a small place for minimal notes or something. So far it looks great, except for the whole tab image since it uses different blocks and such. [[User:LexisMikaya|まそっぷ ！]] ([[User talk:LexisMikaya|talk]]) 11:34, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

:The Final Mix versions are essentially different ships, and so should have separate templates tabbed to the whole. On the topic of notes, I don't see what the point is; we already have an armor rating parameter, and the lack of necessary gummis should be evident from the gummi list; at best, it would be prudent to add a "Flyable" parameter, like the game itself has. I don't think it's wise to encourage editors to add an arbitrary, qualitative analysis of values that are primarily quantitative and already represented.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:41, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

==Implementation==

:The enemies will get their own page, I'm not so sure about the models. They were always presented as tables or lists and now in KHII's case in a row of templates. If we want them all on a page of their own the template has to be redesigned from scratch and made more in a vertical infobox. In KHII's case that would mean we could tab the Highwind, Invincible and Falcon types like we do with keyblades (and add the Tiny Ship in there too). This would most certainly be the professional approach, but that's a lot of pages to write. {{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 10:52, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

::Can't it just stay horizontal like now? I know it would be inconsistent and won't look as great but would it be ''that'' bad? {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 14:12, 4 October 2013 (UTC)