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| If someone wants to convert them to copy-pastable text, I'd be happy to translate them, but too busy to do the converting myself.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 00:36, 30 November 2016 (UTC) | | If someone wants to convert them to copy-pastable text, I'd be happy to translate them, but too busy to do the converting myself.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 00:36, 30 November 2016 (UTC) |
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| :Using a translate app on my phone to look at the table in the lower-left in the second scan, it says that the odds of entering Final Form instead of AntiForm are different between the original release and Final Mix. In the original the odds of Final Form are 25%, 50%, then 100% from the 3rd time on, but in Final Mix the odds are 3%, 9%, 27%, and then 75%. One of the asterisks to the side also seems to say that it isn't possible for Final Form to trigger unless you have at least 5 Drive Gauge bars (the app is really confused, not full sure), but even if that ''is'' what it says, that's a moot point because it's impossible to not have 5 bars by the time you get to TWTNW, you'll have to have beaten Barbossa and the Hostile Program at the least. [[Special:Contributions/65.95.36.170|65.95.36.170]] 12:51, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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| ::It probably means you need at least 5 full gauges, not 5 gauges in total, because like you said, it is impossible to have fewer than 5. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:14, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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| == Article is Incorrect == | | == Article is Incorrect == |
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| I have the Two Become One equipped as my primary Keyblade in II.5, and while I do indeed have a higher chance of entering Anti-Form, I am able to enter other forms perfectly normally. I have not yet unlocked Final Form, note. [[Special:Contributions/67.70.64.9|67.70.64.9]] 22:31, 16 February 2017 (UTC) | | I have the Two Become One equipped as my primary Keyblade in II.5, and while I do indeed have a higher chance of entering Anti-Form, I am able to enter other forms perfectly normally. I have not yet unlocked Final Form, note. [[Special:Contributions/67.70.64.9|67.70.64.9]] 22:31, 16 February 2017 (UTC) |
| :We're going to need some video proof of that.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 00:06, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
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| ::Looking at the article, I notice my error. I have been entering Drive Forms immediately upon enemies appearing, but before I'm technically "in combat" (interface changes, allies draw weapons, etc), so I guess the effect hasn't been technically active. My apologies. [[Special:Contributions/67.70.64.9|67.70.64.9]] 00:49, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
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| == Another "Final Form Won't Trigger" topic ==
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| I've shifted into Wisdom Form with TBO equipped, and Final Form has yet to trigger. I figured I'd trigger it a few times before fighting Xigbar to lower the odds of it happening in the fight, it didn't happen then or during the fight. I proceeded to Naught's Skyway, activating a form on each individual encounter the way up, and no Final Form. And then after reaching the Hall of Empty Melodies, I fought my way back to the Brink of Despair and then back to the HoEM, and ''still'' no Final Form. I am 100% sure I'm in-combat when I'm activating my forms (I wait for my party members to cry out so I know they're attacking or being attacked), and I don't have it already. Final Form is not happening. For the record, I'm playing the PS5 collection of the whole series except MoM, and I haven't left TWTNW since entering.
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| Also, unsure if its related to TBO/L&D, or Antiform, but equipping TBO in the final battle on a previous playthrough, I was able to enter Limit Form normally. This one at least [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO8p_uDCjKI&t=11450s I have video proof of].
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| [[Special:Contributions/65.95.36.170|65.95.36.170]] 12:38, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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| :FINALLY got it on my next attempt, ironically after translating the above scans. I guess the RNG just hates me. I edited the Antiform page accordingly already, so yeah, there's that explained; in the Final Mix+ versions, the odds of Final Form triggering in place of Antiform are only 75% at max. [[Special:Contributions/65.95.36.170|65.95.36.170]] 12:57, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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| ::I'm guessing you can activate Limit Form during the final battle because you don't have two party members. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:44, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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| :::I meant that with TBO equipped in the final battle, I entered Limit Form instead of going into Antiform. [[Special:Contributions/65.95.36.170|65.95.36.170]] 19:41, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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| ::::And I meant that since you don't have two party members, you can't activate Final Form, so the ability doesn't work. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 22:16, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
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| :::::Ah, okay, I misunderstood. Tested and yup, seems so - I went into Luxord and Roxas's Data battles and Limit Form triggers, and in Saix's I went into both Limit and Valor with Donald KO'd, and they worked normally too. [[Special:Contributions/65.95.36.170|65.95.36.170]] 18:57, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
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