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#Vexen had originally conspired with Marluxia and Larxene, though he was acting as a spy for Zexion and the Org. Marluxia refers to Vexen as a traitor even. | #Vexen had originally conspired with Marluxia and Larxene, though he was acting as a spy for Zexion and the Org. Marluxia refers to Vexen as a traitor even. | ||
#There is no reason to remove the details about Sora being a part in Marluxia's plot - they give context for the unusual nature of Marluxia's order to Vexen. | #There is no reason to remove the details about Sora being a part in Marluxia's plot - they give context for the unusual nature of Marluxia's order to Vexen. | ||
#The concern over Vexen was that he was going to tell Sora about "the other side" and Roxas - this was done for the Organization's purposes. | #The concern over Vexen was that he was going to tell Sora about "the other side" and Roxas - this was done for the Organization's purposes. | ||
So, why the reverting of these accurate statements? All the edits seem to do is subtract detail. [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 15:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC) | So, why the reverting of these accurate statements? All the edits seem to do is subtract detail. [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 15:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
*Please see this talk page before continuing to revert without comment. [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 15:31, 30 December 2006 (UTC) | *Please see this talk page before continuing to revert without comment. [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 15:31, 30 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
#His first appearance implies no such thing, simply that he's a recluse scientist who decided to lend his hand to test Riku Replica. None of his other appearances state such a thing either. "Traitor" is a reference to the fact that Vexen went against Marluxia's and thus Organization XIII's will, not because of some betrayal to the conspiracy. | #His first appearance implies no such thing, simply that he's a recluse scientist who decided to lend his hand to test Riku Replica. None of his other appearances state such a thing either. "Traitor" is a reference to the fact that Vexen went against Marluxia's and thus Organization XIII's will, not because of some betrayal to the conspiracy. | ||
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That makes no sense. Marluxia wouldn't consider him a traitor to the Organization because he ''wouldn't'' join Marluxia in betraying the organization. That's circular - the "traitor" remark is certainly as a traitor to Marluzia, not the Organization. The second sentence is missing a word and I'll fix that, but the point isn't that their orders to Vexen made sense - the point of it being against their real ends to eliminate Sora is that it caused Vexen confusion - just a contextual detail. It's nothing big, but there's no reason to leave it out either. As for Vexen's last words - it should be obvious it was for the Organization, because it was to reveal the traitors. I'll combine the wordings to reduce the confusion. [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 16:02, 30 December 2006 (UTC) | That makes no sense. Marluxia wouldn't consider him a traitor to the Organization because he ''wouldn't'' join Marluxia in betraying the organization. That's circular - the "traitor" remark is certainly as a traitor to Marluzia, not the Organization. The second sentence is missing a word and I'll fix that, but the point isn't that their orders to Vexen made sense - the point of it being against their real ends to eliminate Sora is that it caused Vexen confusion - just a contextual detail. It's nothing big, but there's no reason to leave it out either. As for Vexen's last words - it should be obvious it was for the Organization, because it was to reveal the traitors. I'll combine the wordings to reduce the confusion. [[User:Scottch|Scottch]] 16:02, 30 December 2006 (UTC) | ||
== Weapon == | == Weapon == | ||
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What are everyone's thoughts on what Larxene's weapon is? | What are everyone's thoughts on what Larxene's weapon is? | ||
It's called knives officially I believe... as far as I know the "kunai" reference is just a comparison to kunai made by fans. Much like calling Xemnas' blades "lightsabers" or Zexion's weapon a dictionary. It seems like we should just go with what's official... and mention that they are often called kunai by fans? How does that sound? '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 04:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC) | It's called knives officially I believe... as far as I know the "kunai" reference is just a comparison to kunai made by fans. Much like calling Xemnas' blades "lightsabers" or Zexion's weapon a dictionary. It seems like we should just go with what's official... and mention that they are often called kunai by fans? How does that sound? '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 04:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Well many call it a Kunai due to its design. Plus the way Larxene uses them is identical to ninja using the kunai as a throwing weapon. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ | :Well many call it a Kunai due to its design. Plus the way Larxene uses them is identical to ninja using the kunai as a throwing weapon. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Kunai05.jpg pic of Kunai] [[User:Fractyl2|Fractyl]] | ||
::It may "officially" knives, but if we did everything the "official way" many articles would come into question, the fact is that her weapons are 100% kunai, they are between her fingers and thrown, knives are generally held one-at-a-time, by hand and may be thrown.[[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 21:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC) | ::It may "officially" knives, but if we did everything the "official way" many articles would come into question, the fact is that her weapons are 100% kunai, they are between her fingers and thrown, knives are generally held one-at-a-time, by hand and may be thrown.[[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 21:07, 16 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::Are we changing it or not?[[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 05:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC) | :::Are we changing it or not?[[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 05:29, 24 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
::::What exactly do you mean "many articles would come into question"? How could any articles about fictional people come into question by using the people who created them as the official word? I'm not seeing anything other than what some fans think her weapons look like to support this, and that's not really enough to contradict the people who designed her as a character. Besides, she's not the only character with an odd weapon name. Does [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/57/Chieftain-1.jpg this] look like Saïx's weapon to you? Probably not, but it's still a claymore, and it wouldn't make it smart to change his weapon to "club" or something just because it makes more sense to me. '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 12:34, 24 April 2007 (UTC) | ::::What exactly do you mean "many articles would come into question"? How could any articles about fictional people come into question by using the people who created them as the official word? I'm not seeing anything other than what some fans think her weapons look like to support this, and that's not really enough to contradict the people who designed her as a character. Besides, she's not the only character with an odd weapon name. Does [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/57/Chieftain-1.jpg this] look like Saïx's weapon to you? Probably not, but it's still a claymore, and it wouldn't make it smart to change his weapon to "club" or something just because it makes more sense to me. '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 12:34, 24 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::::Honestly, yes. [[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 06:01, 29 April 2007 (UTC) | :::::Honestly, yes. [[User:Therequiembellishere|Therequiembellishere]] 06:01, 29 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
:Fractyl, did you actually read the Wikipedia article you got that picture from? That isn't a real kunai, it's just what most people picture when they think of a kunai. Also they were ''not'' commonly used as throwing weapons. As for the weapon type thing, if they were officially referred to as knives, call them knives. If it was kunai, call them kunai. Same with Saïx's sword; if it was officially called something other than a claymore, then that's whatwe should call it. [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 18:39, 1 March 2009 (UTC) | :Fractyl, did you actually read the Wikipedia article you got that picture from? That isn't a real kunai, it's just what most people picture when they think of a kunai. Also they were ''not'' commonly used as throwing weapons. As for the weapon type thing, if they were officially referred to as knives, call them knives. If it was kunai, call them kunai. Same with Saïx's sword; if it was officially called something other than a claymore, then that's whatwe should call it. [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 18:39, 1 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
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I don't get how someone can think that there's something between Axel and Larxene. She's just taunting him like she does with everyone in those cutscenes! That wasn't serious flirting! [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 04:30, 2 March 2009 (UTC) | I don't get how someone can think that there's something between Axel and Larxene. She's just taunting him like she does with everyone in those cutscenes! That wasn't serious flirting! [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 04:30, 2 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
--[[User:Unbirth|Unbirth]] 19:04, 22 February 2009 (UTC) | |||
{{TNE|blahtext=It's pretty obvious that Larxene is a full-blooded Nobody (that was just a figure of speech, anyway). Childish demeanour, sadistic traits, excessive laughing. How can she and Axel ever click...}} | |||
==Larxene's voice== | |||
I don't know what she's actually saying, ( though it sounds like "because of you" ) on the Youtube clip. She says it so fast it sounds like Pikachu an electric Pokemon | |||
Its in Japanese, "Ikazuchiyo" or lightning, basically.[[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 03:15, 16 February 2008 (UTC) | |||
I always thought her English voice kind of sounded like Misa Amane's off of Death Note, even her look resembles Misa's! If you don't know who I'm talking about, Google Misa Amane. | |||
== Elena? == | |||
I think Larxene just may be a Nobody of the FFVII character Elena. The hair is the same, and they look a lot alike. I switched some letters around and actually got the name 'Elena' from her name. But, maybe not, there is an 'R' in her name too...hmm... | |||
:Honestly, I believe all the Organization members are unique to Kingdom Hearts, as well as their somebodies. Otherwise, it could cause massive canon issues between KH and the original FF. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 22:49, 12 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
{{ILHI|15:00, 13 September 2008 (UTC)|KH is canon to only KH. FFVII compilation is only canon to FFVII. KH is not canon to FFVII and therefore doesn't matter.}} | |||
Na, it's not Elena. My ideal transformation of Larxene's name (without the X) turns out to be Arlene. (troisnyxetienne, 2009.01.04) | |||
{{TNE|text=and yes, XienZo, you were right about the part where you said all Organization members are unique to Kingdom Hearts. I mean, they've gotta be - even if they bear similarities in personality to Final Fantasy characters. Otherwise Nomura might find Final Fantasy characters swarming the place and overcrowding Radiant Garden, who knows...}} | |||
{{Twoface13|Arlene? I got Ralene.Or Lerena, Anerel, Aneler, Relena, Naleer, Reelan, Leeran, Nareel, Nerela, Aleren, Ren............I'll stop. Renale! There, I'm done! By the way, I did all of this in my head. No anagram maker.|}} | |||
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I like Relena just because I think it sounds cool. But I like Elenra the most because it sounds even cooler =P and because it sounds like a variation of Elektra, sounds like Electric, associated with Lightning, which is Larxene's element. I like Elenra the most. -[[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]] | |||
== 358/2 Days Video == | == 358/2 Days Video == | ||
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Could we please replace the videos with ones that showcase her abilities, and one for each battle? The ones we have now just show Sora repeatedly breaking her combos, which isn't very informative.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 13:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC) | Could we please replace the videos with ones that showcase her abilities, and one for each battle? The ones we have now just show Sora repeatedly breaking her combos, which isn't very informative.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 13:48, 17 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
== English Voice Actress == | |||
This really shouldn't be here but I want to know if I'm alone on this topic or not: | |||
How many people '''loathe''' Larxene's voice in the english Re:CoM? I do, from what I gather on Larxene's personality, she should sound like a young, sly, but evil chick. Not a snotty, preppy, high-school bitch! I'm not trying to say Shanelle Workman-Gray is a bad voice actress, I'm saying she was the wrong choice for Larxene. Also, Marluxia, to me, sounds like a 9th grader got high one day and thought he was a king. I can just picture some stoned dude saying "All you need do is layer Sora's memories". -[[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]] | |||
{{Guardian Soul|text=Sounds perfect to me.}} | |||
{{TNE|blahtext=The very fact that Larxene was meant to have a '''sadistic''' personality says it all. She could sound like a high-school jerk and get away with her sadism. | |||
She sounds wonderful, if you ask me. | |||
The only two voice actors in Re:Chain which '''do''' sound wrong, in my opinion, are Vincent Corazza (Zexion) and whoever's voicing Mickey (I'm sure it's not Wayne Allwine). Zexion sounds like he's reading Zexion's lines from a script rather than speaking them out, which makes him somewhat... over-Nobody, and Mickey sounds like a drunk version of himself trying to keep his speech as sober as possible.}} | |||
{{HeartlessSlayer|Actually, I think maybe the problem with Mickey's acting is that since I noticed in Re:CoM, they didn't adjust the movement of the characters lips to say exactly what they're saying in english. Its still the japanese version simply being dubbed over like an anime. Who ever would've thought they would be cheap to save money by doing that huh?}} | |||
{{TNE|text=I know it has been dubbed over the Japanese version. But come to think of it, the European releases have '''ALWAYS''' suffered the same fate (whilst the previous games were dubbed over English versions). It wouldn't make much difference to me. Imagine, I'm soon to get the English version. Once I manage to find clips of the French version on YouTube, Donald Reignoux (the voice of Sora) will have done the same thing - he'd have voiced "over" another voice, as usual. | |||
What counts for me, though, is how they space in the dialogues. That piques my curiosity. But to me, Mickey's voice acting (in filling in the spaces between the Japanese voicing and the English voicing) is okay. It's his '''voice''' that sounds drunk.}} | |||
== Larxene's Weapon == | == Larxene's Weapon == | ||
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you don't know nothing about ninja's Urutapu. anyway Troisnyextinne. I can get on my page now. I well update the picture of xigbar. on my page talk to you soon amiga[[Special:Contributions/72.208.118.127|72.208.118.127]] 02:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC) | you don't know nothing about ninja's Urutapu. anyway Troisnyextinne. I can get on my page now. I well update the picture of xigbar. on my page talk to you soon amiga[[Special:Contributions/72.208.118.127|72.208.118.127]] 02:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
{{BebopKate|text=Fun fact: | {{BebopKate|text=Fun fact: [[wikipedia:Kunai|Kunai are actually gardening trowels]]. | ||
Seriously, her weapons look like they could be very-stylized knives or very-stylized kunai. I think you could safely call them either in this case, even if Nomura didn't exactly say the word "kunai". Besides, if you bring those into the real world, they're going to be pretty hard to use as either anyway ("Let me grab my...OW! ''All'' the ends are pointy!") | Seriously, her weapons look like they could be very-stylized knives or very-stylized kunai. I think you could safely call them either in this case, even if Nomura didn't exactly say the word "kunai". Besides, if you bring those into the real world, they're going to be pretty hard to use as either anyway ("Let me grab my...OW! ''All'' the ends are pointy!") | ||
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::This is what qualifies as a knife: | ::This is what qualifies as a knife: | ||
:::"A knife is a handheld sharp-edged instrument consisting of a handle attached to a blade that is used for cutting. Knives were used at least two-and-a-half million years ago, as evidenced by the Oldowan tools. [1][2]" | :::"A knife is a handheld sharp-edged instrument consisting of a handle attached to a blade that is used for cutting. Knives were used at least two-and-a-half million years ago, as evidenced by the Oldowan tools. [1][2]" | ||
: | :[[wikipedia:Stiletto|This is what Larxene uses]]. | ||
::From the above, I'm pretty sure you've never seen an actual ninja using a kunai, either, at least nothing like the type you see in Naruto, or like the knives Larxene uses. Kunai are also ''completely impossible'' to hold between the fingers like Larxene does, unlike Stilletos, which are a kind of '''knife''' virtually identical to the Shock Charms. (what's your hangup with ninjas, anyway? People only think she's like one because they think her weapon's are kunai, so it's circular reasoning) | ::From the above, I'm pretty sure you've never seen an actual ninja using a kunai, either, at least nothing like the type you see in Naruto, or like the knives Larxene uses. Kunai are also ''completely impossible'' to hold between the fingers like Larxene does, unlike Stilletos, which are a kind of '''knife''' virtually identical to the Shock Charms. (what's your hangup with ninjas, anyway? People only think she's like one because they think her weapon's are kunai, so it's circular reasoning) | ||
Will everyone stop talking about this? Please?? There was no need to go into all thi technical talk about size and use. Some of the Organization members' weapons are nothing like their real world counterparts. Axel's chakrams are absolutly nothing like real chakrams and Saïx's claymore has some extreme diffrences from real claymores as well. The point is, there's no point in this conversation since Nomura doesn't even follow the technicallities of their weapons anyway. So just keep it as "knives" because that what it says in the Ultimania and that's the closest thing we have to official right now, OK??-[[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]] | |||
{{TNE|text=If you insist. Well, I wasn't even close to editing anything.}} | {{TNE|text=If you insist. Well, I wasn't even close to editing anything.}} | ||
{{BebopKate|text=Nicely convincing argument. Knives it is, then.}} | {{BebopKate|text=Nicely convincing argument. Knives it is, then.}} | ||
== Attacks == | == Attacks == | ||
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::The named ones are from CoM, and then there are semi-named ones from the Bradygames and Ultimania guides.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 17:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC) | ::The named ones are from CoM, and then there are semi-named ones from the Bradygames and Ultimania guides.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 17:28, 5 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
== | ==Larxene's Heartless== | ||
{{Emilyc|text=Whenever someone says Larxene's name, I can picture her wearing gothic things under her coat. I think we might see the gothic girl's Heartless in a future game. Do you think Larxene is gothic?}} | |||
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{{TNE|text=I don't know... Methinks she's more prep-school than gothic. Prep-school because of her voice.}} | |||
= | {{Emilyc|text=Well, goths like evil and Larxene ''is'' evil. Goths dress spooky (more spooky than Halloween Town) and Larxene might be dressed that way when she was whole. Goths do bad stuff like littering, bulling, swearing etc and Larxene tried to kill Sora. Add that up.}} | ||
= | {{TNE|blahtext=Correction : Not all goths like evil. I have a friend who's a goth and she's as sweet as ever. | ||
If you've seen Mean Girls, you might want to equate that to Larxene. Only that Larxene does it in a more severe manner.}} | |||
I don't think she's goth. I see her as one of those punky chicks that like to be wild and does care what people think about her, personality-wise. -[[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]] | |||