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== avatar kingdom ==
== avatar kingdom ==


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THAT GUY LOOKS LIKE BALITHIER.....
THAT GUY LOOKS LIKE BALITHIER.....
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There's a trailer and 2 gameplays on youtube, but besides that nothing!  
There's a trailer and 2 gameplays on youtube, but besides that nothing!  
I wish I could see the cutscenes about the ''truth'' Mickey talked about, but how if there is no information anywhere!
I wish I could see the cutscenes about the ''truth'' Mickey talked about, but how if there is no information anywhere!
<!--[[File:Tidus_says_goodbye.jpg|thumb|Keeping it cool.... trying anyway!]]-->
[[Image:Tidus_says_goodbye.jpg|thumb|Keeping it cool.... trying anyway!]]


--[[User:Dracomertall|Dracomertall]] 22:20, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
--[[User:Dracomertall|Dracomertall]] 22:20, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
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Hollow Bastion is not in the twilight!
Hollow Bastion is not in the twilight!
Just as a side note to this conversation, Aqua WAS on the Dark Beach place (not sure of its technical name, I've never actually played a game that featured it) at the end of Birth by Sleep. She fell into the Dark Realm and sacrificed her armor and Keyblade to save Terra, and that's why Xemnas has them in his possession to start with.
MY theory is that, seeing as all three of them were separately being kept prisoners (Aqua in the Realm of Darkness, Terra as Xehanort/Xemnas, and Ventus in Castle Oblivion), it's referencing them and how Sora needs to save them. However, by that logic, since Xemnas was killed, Terra would also be dead.... so, we'll see when re:Coded and KHIII come out, amiright?[[Special:Contributions/71.233.137.186|71.233.137.186]] 21:15, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
Well, let me explain something to you guys. Firts, Ventus is wind, not Light. Second, Aqua is in the Dark Meridian, a place in the Realm of Darkness (Like said above). Since both his Heartless and Nobody have been destroyed Xehanort will return to life. Terra can't be dead, because of something so trivial as his body death, since he is using his armor as a body (Lingering Sentiment). Also, not only Terra, Aqua and Ventus are the "Then" but also Roxas, Axel, Xion, etc. I know this because they said Sora's name in the Reconect.Kingdom Hearts, and are "those who are conected to Sora", the theme of the next Kingdom Hearts Game. User: snetonobre


== paying for coded ==
== paying for coded ==
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:Only if it's opposite day.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:22, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
:Only if it's opposite day.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:22, June 11, 2010 (UTC)


Falcon, Roxas is Sora's nobody, but because Sora and Ventus have their hearts connected, Roxas gained Ventus heart, thus making him the only nobody to actually have a heart (Ventus Heart+Sora's Body+Sora's Soul=Roxas, so you could say that roxas is a Mix between Ven and Sora). Their hearts being connected is also the reason for Vanitas looks like Sora, and not Ven itself. Also, it's obvious that everyone that said Sora's name in the secret ending of KHBBS gonna make part in the next KH game, as they are the ones connected to Sora (The next game have this theme: the ones connected to Sora. This is the reason for the secret ending being named "Reconnect.Kingdom Hearts"). Since Roxas can separate from Sora any time he wants, he will appear, and thus Xion can also appear. Axel have been destroyed for good, but in the next game or Lea will appear, or Sora visits the world of death. Aqua is still alive in the realm of darkness with Ansem the Wise; Ventus is asleeping inside castle oblivion; since both his heartless and nobody have been destroyed for good, Xehanort will appear, and them Sora may find a way to separate Terra from Master Xehanort.User:Snetonobre
Falcon, Roxas is Sora's nobody, but because Sora and Ventus have their hearts connected, Roxas gained Ventus heart, thus making him the only nobody to actually have a heart (Ventus Heart+Sora's Body+Sora's Soul=Roxas, so you could say that roxas is a Mix between Ven and Sora). Their hearts being connected is also the reason for Vanitas looks like Sora, and not Ven itself.Well, I'm not a actuall member.


== Ven, Terra, Aqua: no kidding. But Roxas, Axel, Namine, Xion? ==
== Ven, Terra, Aqua: no kidding. But Roxas, Axel, Namine, Xion? ==
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''However'', if the game has additional content not found in ''Kingdom Hearts coded'', then I would suggest that we create a seperate article. By "additional content", I don't mean a different main menu or button configuration. A significant amount of new gameplay elements, characters, enemies, and content that similarly makes ''Kingdom Hearts Final Mix'' different from ''Kingdom Hearts'' and ''Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix'' different from ''Kingdom Hearts II'' would be enough to fill an article for ''Kingdom Hearts Re:coded.}}
''However'', if the game has additional content not found in ''Kingdom Hearts coded'', then I would suggest that we create a seperate article. By "additional content", I don't mean a different main menu or button configuration. A significant amount of new gameplay elements, characters, enemies, and content that similarly makes ''Kingdom Hearts Final Mix'' different from ''Kingdom Hearts'' and ''Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix'' different from ''Kingdom Hearts II'' would be enough to fill an article for ''Kingdom Hearts Re:coded.}}
{{Xabryn|text=I think that you guys are forgeting about another change it'll be in the DS which is enough proof that it isn't the same game, so I'm against the merge but what we should do is let it as it is for now and see if anything will change in KHRe:Coded}}
{{LapisScarab|time=03:54, June 13, 2010 (UTC)|text=How does the platform changing mean it will be significantly different. All that means is the controls will change or something similar, which, as DTN pointed out, is not significant enough to warrant its own article.}}.
I see no harm in keeping the articles seperate. Though links could be used to connect the two. --[[User:Lordrogersmith6485|Lordrogersmith6485]] 05:15, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
:I see plenty of harm: (1) If the game's are virtually identical, then it is more difficult to cover the differences, since you can't directly compare the info. (2) Same reason we don't have pages for the English and Japanese version of KH1 or Days, despite small differences: gigantic redundancy. (3) Confuses readers who go to coded, then see Re:coded, and wonder if they are different games, or the same game, and end up thinking we don't know what the hell we're doing.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 05:31, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
::Well that's just my opinion based on what's known so far.  Situations like this don't occur that often aside from COM. It's times like this I wish coded was released in the US to further the original game rather then a RE: game. As long as it's not taken to a vote, waiting around for more game footage would be more helpful. --[[User:Lordrogersmith6485|Lordrogersmith6485]] 05:58, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
:::With the information that we've gotten so far, that IS what's happening. It's merely a dubbed release, with a small smattering of extras like all the other dubbed games; not a full re-write (plot, game engine, etc.) like Re:CoM.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 19:38, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
{{Maggosh|text=<!--[[File:Recoded Traversetown.jpg|thumb]]-->
Looks to me like the game engine "got an overhaul", because if I recall correctly, coded didn't have Days-style graphics. I am '''AGAINST''' the merger, and this just firms my opinion.}}
{{The Inexistent|text='''I concur with Maggosh, but I believe we should just lock both articles completely until the game comes out.  Then we can compare to see if they are different.'''}}
{{ShardofTruth|time=12:21, June 16, 2010 (UTC)|talk=If you look at the screenshot, you can also see, that the combat system is completely different from the original Coded, it seems a bit more like BBS's one.}}
== A Main KH Game? ==
Should this really be under the main games column? I mean 1) it came out for cell phones 2) it's story is inconsequential to the main one. Maybe they should make a place for lesser games like Coded and 3D. [[User:Oh,how the sea calls|Oh,how the sea calls]] 08:08, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
:coded explains what the letter at the end of KH2 was, and where Sora has to go next.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 08:53, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
You have 'main courses' and 'appetizers'.
Yes, because, as Kryten has said above, it explains a key plot point that has been the subject of debate for almost four years after the point was introduced. Also, it is not a remake like Re:coded or Re: Chain of Memories, and it is not a non-canon micro-adventure like KH-VC.
You see, even though the numbered games are really the main games of the series, the games like BbS, CoM, 358/2 Days, coded, and even the upcoming KH3D, are still a part of the canon and, more often then not, explain plot points that are essential to understanding the numbered games. The remakes and Final Mixes are just what they are; remade versions of the game that, while adding new battles, cutscenes and mysteries, generally display the same information. Because of that, coded is a part of the main series.
(Also, just because it's released on cell phones doesn't mean it shouldn't be a part of the main series. Sure, KH-VC was made for cell phones, but it's not considered a main game because it is truly inconsequential to the main plot.) [[User:Tamroc7|Tamroc7]] 03:27, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
Then S.Enix needs to stop putting them on stupid platforms like a cellphone. Stick PS systems or DS. They couldve made two games on a main system and made all the points of Coded and KH3D. The only problem I will ever have with S.Enix is there desire to change what is not broken and to try new things like phones and the GBA. P.S. I consider Days to be a main game, and BBS.
Dude, it was only one game. You sound like you think change is a plague. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 04:04, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
:Wow, Mr. anon, what a stupid opinion. You do realize how ''insanely common'' cellphones are in Japan, right? Hell, even in America (and much more portable). Putting a game on a cellphone, especially one that is part of a popular series, is basically printing money.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 04:09, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
Of course this is a main game. Final Fantasy IV:The After Years was released in Japan on the Cellphone and then the Wii in America and other countries. It ain't a big deal if its on the D.S. or not. [[User:Naruto195|Naruto195]] 06:15, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
Coded happens between Kingdom Hearts II? Wierd. {{AurorSig}}
Well, Sora gets King Mickey's letter at the end of Kingdom Hearts II, so the events of Coded had to have taken place in between the time King Mickey returned to the castle and the time Sora got the letter. [[User:Tamroc7|Tamroc7]] 22:59, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

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