Editing Talk:Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep Final Mix

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==Add to side menu==
Hey, I'm fairly new to this wiki, but shouldn't this game be added to Remakes and Other Titles?  I don't know how to do this, but I think someone should.[[User:RoxasNobody|RoxasNobody]] 02:42, September 20, 2010

Never mind, already done.--[[User:RoxasNobody|RoxasNobody]] 03:09, September 23, 2010 (UTC)

== Trailer ==
hi, I just found this video of the trailer, and i was wondering if I should post it on the page or leave it here in the talk page.

http://www.kh2.co.uk/kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep/news/kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep-final-mix-trailer.php
[[User:BigHeadZack|BigHeadZack]] 21:25, September 26, 2010 (UTC)

==Release Date==

The release date is January 27, 2011. http://www.ff-reunion.net/news/2010/10/13/sqex_news_311-2 --[[User:Breaktheice16|BreaktheIce16]] <small>([[User talk:Breaktheice16|talk]])</small> 12:16, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

== Kana ==

[http://images.khinsider.com/BbS:FM/Scans/10.15.2010.famitsu.jpg Katakana is used for "Final Mix"]. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 04:19, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

== Editing ==

{{RN867|time=11:51|ven= umm i was going to add the kingdom hearts main series navigation template but then i noticed the page was locked so i was wondering if someone could do it for me?}}

{{Chihuahuaman|time=04:09, October 17, 2010 (UTC)|text=BbS FM is a remake, not a main game. But if the page is locked, it is better to keep it that way.}}

{{RN867|time=12:09am|ven=ya its just i noticed it on the other final mixes and thought i should add it to this one. its probably locked because of all the rumors going around about it.}}

== Game logo ==

<nowiki>{{Game|BFM}}</nowiki>
It's FMB, not BBSFM
I can't edit it, so here ya go.
[[User:Roxas pwns sora47|Roxas pwns sora47]] 04:09, November 4, 2010 (UTC)Roxas_pwns_sora47

==[[Monstro]] in Mirage Arena confirmed!==
Here is a legit link that details that Monstro is a boss in the Mirage arena. http://www.siliconera.com/2010/10/15/kingdom-hearts-birth-by-sleep-final-mix-has-a-whale-of-a-multiplayer-fight/
You fight Monstro from a beach, he can also swallow you, and you have to fight him from inside his stomach. Also, the article states that the player will be able to transform to an Unversed in the Mirage arena, using an ability called "illusion L". Here's the original source, http://www.famitsu.com/news/201010/15034744.html, but it's in Japanese. So, if you cannot read Japanese, open the link in the google chrome internet browser and it will translate it into english. {{User:Lapidothtill/Sig}} 15:38, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

You do realize, of course, that info's already up on Monstro's page, right? [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 16:14, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

Bahaha...now I feel like an idiot -_-...but thanks for pointing out my ignorance, what about the illusion L bit? {{User:Lapidothtill/Sig}} 16:20, October 21, 2010 (UTC)

== Date Set and multiple info ==

{{ErryTalk|text=The date for BbS FM is January 20th of 2011. Here's the source:
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2010/10/29/kh_bbs_final_mix_date/
There's more info too, but this is the main basis of the post.
}}

== Release date ==

{{MV|time=[[User:Master Vantius|Master Vantius]] 20:52, November 1, 2010 (UTC)|text= BBSFM Japanese release date is January 20, 2011 http://www.khinsider.com/}}

{{Xemnas8|text=Why hasn't anyone added the release date on the page. Someone who has connections to an admin or something should ask them to add it. It isn't a rumour, it has been annouced}}

== American Release? ==

{{TR|sora=Well i was wondering if the game is even going to release in America because as we all know the other final mixes have not and properly never will, i had to work hard to get Kingdom hearts 2 final mix}}

{Pokeneon7} Sorry to say this but, "Final Mix" versions of games are only released in Japan. The best thing you can do is look it up on Youtube when It comes out.

Seeing as PSP games aren't region specific, there's nothing to suggest you can't import the game (providing you can at least read Japanese). [[User:Adam 148|Adam 148]] 14:26, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Same could be said for every other Final Mix--{{User:ShadowsTwilight/Sig}} 16:05, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
:Only kind of, since you'd have to import a Japanese PS2 as well. Or, if you have a very strong computer, you can play it on there.[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 16:46, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

== A Complete List of Add-Ons to KH BbS: FM ==

{Pokeneon7} We know this, (All info was found on KHInsider which will sometimes link to a picture or story)

New Mirage Arena Maps: Monstro

New Commands: "Illusion" ~ Fight as Unversed

New Mini-Game Songs/Courses: All NA/EU Ice-Cream Beat songs + New Course(s) for Rumble Racing

New Command Boards: Never Land Board

Submit more info when it comes out!

{{TR|roxas=The fact that i have no idea what you just said tells me i really need to play Birth by Sleep =(}}

{Pokeneon7} I need a Talkbox.....

== Secret Episode ==

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|text=[[File:Vsymbol.png|15px]]I was reading one of Nomura's interviews (http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/157115-full-nomura-interview-18-11-10-a.html), and I noticed that he very obviously stated that there would be a "Secret Episode" in this game.  Isn't that worth mentioning in the article?}}

Well, if they get a "Secret Episode" I´ll be pissed off, but are we sure that Nomura said that and it wasn´t a mistraslation?--"Behold the endless Abyss!" -- Dark-EnigmaXIII 13:42, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

If you actually read the interview, there's a whole conversation on it, so I don't think it's a mistranslation. [[User:RoxasNobody|Roxas]][[User_talk:RoxasNobody|Nobody]]

Since people want a draft, how about this.  "Nomura recently announced that this game would have a "Secret Episode."  Unlike the secret movies of past games, players will be able to control the characters in this episode.  The criteria to unlock it is currently unknown."  You guys would have to add it wherever you see fit, as there's no good place right now.  --[[User:RoxasNobody|Roxas]][[User_talk:RoxasNobody|Nobody]]

Well, I see now... Sorry about my skepticism, RoxasNobody, didn´t mean to sound rude--"Behold the endless Abyss!" -- [[User:Dark-EnigmaXIII]] 22:49, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

== Jump Festa ==

Nomura said that Birth By Sleep Final Mix will be featured at December's Jump Festa. Does anyone know WHEN the Jump Festa is?--[[User:KRoNoS|KRoNoS]] 17:44, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
:...you just answered your own question. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 17:46, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
I meant the date, not just the month.--[[User:KRoNoS|KRoNoS]] 00:12, November 23, 2010 (UTC)
December 18 and 19--{{User:ShadowsTwilight/Sig}} 18:59, November 21, 2010 (UTC)
Thanks!--[[User:KRoNoS|KRoNoS]] 00:12, November 23, 2010 (UTC)

== Come on already! ==

This page seriously needs to be updated! It's ridiculous that it's locked, and the ones who do have access to it, are not paying it any attention. For instance, TONS of new information has been released, including the release date, and the box art was revealed today. Someone who has access to edit this page should either hop to it, or unlock it. --[[User:Breaktheice16|Breaktheice16]] 03:18, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

I second what Breaktheice16 has to say. It is entirely ridiculous how this page has been locked, true it has been locked due to speculation and etc. But still, at least let users edit. {{User:Erry/SigChristmas}} 04:28, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

{{Xemnas8|text=I don't get is why this is still locked with nearly a month until it comes out; when Re:coded was unlocked for Users two months before release, so '''SOMEONE UNLOCK THE PAGE!!!''' please.}}

Must be because BbS is more popular than Re:coded. And yeah, the mods should unlock the article for users. Or at least update the article. {{User:17master/Sign}}
:You guys do realize that when a page is protected, you're supposed to post your desired revisions to the talk page, right? Posting well-written text, properly cited, etc. To be honest, the protection was put up because only vandalism and no worthwhile edits were being put up - it doesn't make sense to deprotect it unless someone demonstrates that there are worthwhile edits to make.[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 07:22, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

I put up the release date AGES ago up above, and still it has not been edited to include the release date. {{User:Erry/SigChristmas}} 07:30, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

...I didn't know. But I've added the promotional artwork and someone just uploaded the boxart. Shouldn't those be added to the article? {{User:17master/Sign}}
:Kryten, there's a plethora of updated information above. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 07:03, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
::As has been stated several times: provide an actual draft. I don't know about the other admins, but I'm already running behind on several projects, and I can't peruse this page and compare it to the main article to find all the info to add.[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 08:21, December 3, 2010 (UTC)
:::Exactly why you should unlock the page for only user-edits. And why should we provide a draft when we can add stuff and it can be easily reverted? It's not that hard to waste a few joules on clicking a button. {{User:Erry/SigChristmas}} 10:14, December 3, 2010 (UTC)~
::::At least you can tell another admin to add the infos, right? I mean, there's someone who even listed the new changes, and all they have to do is to find the right words and add the infos. {{User:17master/Sign}}
::Seriously, guys, this is how protections on pages are supposed to work. Can you guys humor me at least once on this?[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 14:58, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

{{Xemnas8|text=Another thing I don't get is that 3D isn't even annouced but anyone can edit it and there's been no vandalism, so why keep this page locked.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=22:13, December 4, 2010 (UTC)|text=Provide a draft of what you want to be added to the page. It's not an unreasonable request. If you do that, not only will the information be added, it will be organized. If you won't do that, why should you expect anyone else to?}}

== It's not a remake, it's a re-release. ==

{{NeutraVega| They're quite different, and I fail to see how you guys can even possibly confuse the two.}}
{{ErryTalk|eziotext=It is a re-release in terms of the title, but is actually a remake within the game mechanics. It's not something like Re:coded and Re:Chain of Memories where they were altered to different consoles, but here it's heavily altered with new enemies, commands, music, etc.}}
Not a remake in terms of gameplay, gameplay is basically unchanged. It is basically an enhanced reissue of BBS.  --[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']] 18:05, December 2, 2010 (UTC)
{{LapisScarab|time=07:32, December 3, 2010 (UTC)|text=@Erry: What you just described is exactly what a remake is. The same basic storyline with updated graphics and gameplay, i.e. Re:CoM or Re:coded. BBSFM is an enhanced re-release; it's the same game, same gameplay, but with a few features added on top of the original.}}