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| Is that a picture of Twilight Thorn in Traverse Town? | | Is that a picture of Twilight Thorn in Traverse Town? |
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| i hope that's how it is, and i think that the 3d effects being optional is a great idea. especially for people like me that don't like 3d effects in games.--[[User:Soul reaper magnum|Soul reaper magnum]] 03:28, June 19, 2010 (UTC) | | i hope that's how it is, and i think that the 3d effects being optional is a great idea. especially for people like me that don't like 3d effects in games.--[[User:Soul reaper magnum|Soul reaper magnum]] 03:28, June 19, 2010 (UTC) |
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| The 3DS is entirely different hardware. It's not just the 3D effects that separate it from the DS. The game won't be playable on the (soon to be outdated) DS. [[Special:Contributions/98.245.249.137|98.245.249.137]] 05:53, August 3, 2010 (UTC)
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| Can someone unlock the page for a minute or two? I need to make a ''small'' edit.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:26, June 16, 2010 (UTC) | | Can someone unlock the page for a minute or two? I need to make a ''small'' edit.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 18:26, June 16, 2010 (UTC) |
| ::Yeah. The page should be locked only to IP's (it's times like this I wish you could select a group of regular users to be allowed editing rights when something's sysop-only). There are a few tweaks and additions to the article I'd like to make, as well. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 18:44, June 16, 2010 (UTC) | | ::Yeah. The page should be locked only to IP's (it's times like this I wish you could select a group of regular users to be allowed editing rights when something's sysop-only). There are a few tweaks and additions to the article I'd like to make, as well. - <span>[[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Eternal'''</font>]][[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="darkred">'''Nothingness'''</font>]][[User:EndlessOblivionKH/EO's Jukebox|<font color="dimgray">'''XIII'''</font>]]</span> 18:44, June 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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| I know its protect so people don't speculate and stuff, but I won't take long. It's just a very tiny edit.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:57, June 16, 2010 (UTC) | | I know its protect so people don't speculate and stuff, but I won't take long. It's just a very tiny edit.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 18:57, June 16, 2010 (UTC) |
| ::All I wanted to do was add a list of characters confirmed to appear, and a descripition of the trailer based on how IGN described it. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 19:00, June 16, 2010 (UTC) | | ::All I wanted to do was add a list of characters confirmed to appear, and a descripition of the trailer based on how IGN described it. - <span>[[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="black">'''Eternal'''</font>]][[User talk:EternalNothingnessXIII|<font color="darkred">'''Nothingness'''</font>]][[User:EndlessOblivionKH/EO's Jukebox|<font color="dimgray">'''XIII'''</font>]]</span> 19:00, June 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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| #If a page is locked due to constant edit warring, you're supposed to present your edit on the talk page so that the admin can add it, not ask for it to be unlocked and relocked several times. Not yelling, or anything, but that's the accepted way to do it. Could you please present your edits? | | #If a page is locked due to constant edit warring, you're supposed to present your edit on the talk page so that the admin can add it, not ask for it to be unlocked and relocked several times. Not yelling, or anything, but that's the accepted way to do it. Could you please present your edits? |
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| {{ST|time=22:35, June 16, 2010 (UTC)|text= RE: coded is not the same as 3D. two totally different games.}} | | {{ST|time=22:35, June 16, 2010 (UTC)|text= RE: coded is not the same as 3D. two totally different games.}} |
| {{KHK|time=04:50, August 13, 2010 (UTC)|text=eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee OMG new kingdom hearts! thats awesome!! hey does any one else think they should hire out consoles for people who don't have the required console to play a particular game?}}
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| {{LA|Vtext=It's iffy... but can anyone else kind of see that... the way Sora's handling his Keyblade... it's in reverse? It might just be the wierd angle of the image..}} | | {{LA|Vtext=It's iffy... but can anyone else kind of see that... the way Sora's handling his Keyblade... it's in reverse? It might just be the wierd angle of the image..}} |
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| {{CaelumLucisCaliga|time=21:16, July 26, 2010 (UTC)|text=It's probably either a glitch or Squeenix put it in just for show. I think they did that before. In one of the pictures of Data Sora from Coded, he posed with his keyblade in reverse on his shoulder.}}
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| I'm guessing by now everyone saw [http://heartstation.org/?p=2244&cpage=1#comment-11966 this]. Don't we need to put more information about it? And can someone unlock the page, already?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:31, June 18, 2010 (UTC) | | I'm guessing by now everyone saw [http://heartstation.org/?p=2244&cpage=1#comment-11966 this]. Don't we need to put more information about it? And can someone unlock the page, already?--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 19:31, June 18, 2010 (UTC) |
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| From what Nomura has told us, KH3D will be N3DS exclusive.--[[User:XYZach|ΧƳƵach.]] 17:06, June 19, 2010 (UTC) | | From what Nomura has told us, KH3D will be N3DS exclusive.--[[User:XYZach|ΧƳƵach.]] 17:06, June 19, 2010 (UTC) |
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| Nintendo just wants to sell more versions of the Ds, and they apparently want KH3D to be a special game. --[[File:Axel Action (Sprite) KHCOM.gif]][[User:AxelLivesOn|<sup><font face="Forte" color="red" size=4>Axel</font face></sup>]] [[User talk:AxelLivesOn|<font face="Forte" color="orange" size=3>Lives</font face>]] [[Special:Contributions/AxelLivesOn|<sub><font face="Forte" color="gold" size=4>On</font face></sub>]] [[File:Axel (Sprite) KHCOM.png|42px]] | | Nintendo just wants to sell more versions of the Ds, and they apparently want KH3D to be a special game. --[[File:Axel with chakrams ~ chain of memories.gif]][[User:AxelLivesOn|<sup><font face="Forte" color="red" size=4>Axel</font face></sup>]] [[User talk:AxelLivesOn|<font face="Forte" color="orange" size=3>Lives</font face>]] [[Special:Contributions/AxelLivesOn|<sub><font face="Forte" color="gold" size=4>On</font face></sub>]] [[File:Axel-ChOfMem.png|42px]] |
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| And that they will also have new worlds in the game, but both Destiny Islands & Traverse Town have been seen. --[[File:Axel Action (Sprite) KHCOM.gif]][[User:AxelLivesOn|<sup><font face="Forte" color="red" size=4>Axel</font face></sup>]] [[User talk:AxelLivesOn|<font face="Forte" color="orange" size=3>Lives</font face>]] [[Special:Contributions/AxelLivesOn|<sub><font face="Forte" color="gold" size=4>On</font face></sub>]] [[File:Axel (Sprite) KHCOM.png|42px]] | | And that they will also have new worlds in the game, but both Destiny Islands & Traverse Town have been seen. --[[File:Axel with chakrams ~ chain of memories.gif]][[User:AxelLivesOn|<sup><font face="Forte" color="red" size=4>Axel</font face></sup>]] [[User talk:AxelLivesOn|<font face="Forte" color="orange" size=3>Lives</font face>]] [[Special:Contributions/AxelLivesOn|<sub><font face="Forte" color="gold" size=4>On</font face></sub>]] [[File:Axel-ChOfMem.png|42px]] |
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| Pretty skimpy.--[[User:XYZach|ΧƳƵach.]] 15:24, June 23, 2010 (UTC) | | Pretty skimpy.--[[User:XYZach|ΧƳƵach.]] 15:24, June 23, 2010 (UTC) |
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| {{Key-blade master|time=23:09, October 5, 2010 (UTC)|text= They really expect me to wait till next year's E3?! GOD! I think i might die until then!}}
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| Also the title doesn't have to be three and something that starts on "D". It could be three "D"'s ... - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 17:18, July 5, 2010 (UTC) | | Also the title doesn't have to be three and something that starts on "D". It could be three "D"'s ... - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 17:18, July 5, 2010 (UTC) |
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| So? If you hadn't done it somebody else would.... - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 18:31, July 16, 2010 (UTC) | | So? If you hadn't done it somebody else would.... - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 18:31, July 16, 2010 (UTC) |
| :Thank you for your work, Chihuahua. We really appreciate it.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 18:49, July 16, 2010 (UTC) | | :Thank you for your work, Chihuahua. We really appreciate it.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 18:49, July 16, 2010 (UTC) |
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| Pure speculation. unless we get a real title with confirmation from Tetsuya Nomura, the title is not going to be changed.--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 18:59, July 20, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman
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| *The two main characters will be Sora and Riku. Throughout the game, the two appear to be "alternating", creating a system of two people.
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| *The player will realise the scenario in time, but for the meanwhile it will be a mystery twist.
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| My favorite line in that interview (which is not in your summary and i'm too lazy to find a link to,) Is that Nomura wants "A Riku that flies, and a Sora that falls."
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| Which is also the lamest multiple language pun I'd have expected from him.[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 19:16, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
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| Okay, IO read in the Ansem reports the other day that there are four unexplained asences in the series: Xehanort befor HKI, Roxas between CoM and KHII, Mickey after KHII, and Riku before some other instance (sorry, it's a miracle I remembered the other three. Maybe Namine's messin' with my head?) The first three are already explained in BBS, 358/2 days, and :Coded. Anyone who agrees this one'll account for Rikus absencem say aye!
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| These ''are'' explained! Hello!? Xehanort before KHI is Terra, Roxas between CoM&KHII is 358/2 Days, Mickey after KHII is Coded! Pay attention to the series! --[[User:One-Winged Angel|One-Winged Angel]] 01:55, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Sorry! I was just stating that every other absence WAS explained (even though the page said unexplained)But if you read other comments on this page, I think my theory is slightly more sound. Sorry for typos and I know they were explained. Do you agree or not?
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| Oops. I'm...Sorry. I'm developing a bad habit of partially reading things so I didn't see you say they were explained. I think part of it is that I'm confused on how you seem to say Roxas, Mickey, and Riku are mentioned in the A. Reports? --[[User:One-Winged Angel|One-Winged Angel]] 02:08, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Yeah, check the Riku page. I checked again and it said in the Ansen Reports, every other ansence but Riku's durring KHI (We've got no idea how he got the the other side of Kingdom Hearts door). And it's alright. I just hope someone agrees.
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| :::Sorry, but I triple checked and it specifically says this period was explained in Coded. Check for yourself. Also, I'm surprised seeing you here. I'm Wh!te$tar on Digimon wiki!
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| ::::That's really odd, then, because Nomura specifically said that he was referring to when Mickey was in the Realm of Darkness. What page said it had been explained?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 04:21, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| :::::I already said, on the Riku page. It says so right in the trivisa that becusae every other absence was covered by a game, odds are one of the three unconfirmed games (most likely this one due to the KHI style characters) will fill his absence in.--[[User:Wh!te$tar|Wh!te$tar]] 04:29, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::There are no plans for KH3. What Nomura actually said was "Two projects which are not KH3", as he clarified in the GameInformer interview.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 06:20, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| What a bust. [[User:Oh,how the sea calls|Oh,how the sea calls]] 06:44, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| THANK YOU!!! Now that we've got that cleared up, Nomura already stated KH3D was one of the three unconfirmed games. He specifically stated re:Coded was not one of those games. Finally, he said KHIII WAS one of those games, but it's still in conceptual stages. that being said, THERE'S STILL ONE MORE GAME TO LOOK FORWARD TO!!! ZOMG!--[[User:Wh!te$tar|Wh!te$tar]] 19:02, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| <blockquote>"Translations of your interview in the Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep Ultimania seem to confirm that Kingdom Hearts III is coming along with two other games." / Tetsuya Nomura: "Kingdom Hearts III is not a confirmed title. I actually phrased my answer for the Ultimania "two titles other than III" to avoid speculation that we were working on Kingdom Hearts III." / Bryan Vore: "Are there any hints you can provide about these games?" / Tetsuya Nomura: "Hints would give away too much, and for Kingdom Hearts we're contractually obligated to keep any information that has not been officially released under wraps. However, I can say one of the two projects mentioned above came into existence because we wanted to do something for the North American fans, so we'll be announcing it at E3."</blockquote>
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| The problem is: what Mickey was doing between BbS and KHI? OK, he was in the Realm of Darkness, finding Kingdom Key D. But he took ten years to do that? And he didin't met with Aqua? I guess he did something else in the mid time.
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| :He was probably still training with Yen Sid. But this thread isn't about mickey or translations. It's about Riku! Do ''any'' of you guys even think my theory ''might'' be correct or not? I mean, c'mon. I read the other theories and they just don't make much sense to me. Is my idea THAT outrageous?--[[User:Wh!te$tar|Wh!te$tar]] 00:08, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
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| I think the "period of Riku's absence" that Nomura was referring to is the period between CoM and KHII, which was partly explained during 358/2 Days. Sure, we don't know EVERYTHING that he did or the inexplicable aging mere days after the events of CoM, but you do see an overall view of just what Riku was doing while working for DiZ.
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| So I'm not jumping to any conclusions on what 3D is about, but I think that Riku's story has been told already.[[User:Tamroc7|Tamroc7]] 13:18, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Sorry, but i still disagree. Sorry, but so far everyone's just been saying they ''think'' Riku's story is over. And it is a pretty big deal to me. I mean, can you honestly say you don't care about how Riku got intO Kingdom Hearts a mere few days after Xehanort's Heartless took over him. Secondly how did he escape Kingdom Hearts and get to Castle Oblivion? It's a plot hole you could drive a truck through!--[[User:Wh!te$tar|Wh!te$tar]] 21:07, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Why on earth is every characters 'Kingdom Hearts 3D' Story part in Other Appearances? ==
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| {{Rucario|time=09:12, September 3, 2010 (UTC)|text=Nomura has already stated in an interview (Be smart and use Google to find it) that Kingdom Hearts 3D is part of the continuity, not some what-if-scenario/non-canon-spinoff/completely-different-game, so why is it listed in 'Other Appearances' for Riku, Sora, and any other character I've missed?}}
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| It's not that we don't think it's part of the canon, it's just that we don't know HOW it fits in with the rest of the story. No one knows how and when it takes place just yet, and the fact that Sora and Riku are presented in their KHI incarnations doesn't help us. So until we get a solid definition of when this takes place, it's in the "Other Appearances" section.
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| :That, and we only have a few screenshots and descriptions available - we don't even have access to the demo or trailer itself.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 16:05, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
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| Hey, i was just wondering... will Kingdom Hearts 3D be shown at the upcoming TGS??? I sure hope so...--[[Special:Contributions/65.126.116.219|65.126.116.219]] 02:24, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| Sadly, there won't be a playable demo. The 3rd Birthday, Dissidia 2, and Re:Coded have that honor. However, they may show the E3 Trailer here, and maybe some details will be shown.
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| Of course, the 3DS may not even be there, but only time will tell. [[User:Tamroc7|Tamroc7]] 02:47, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
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| Could KH3D be a prequel to KH1 and be more dreams like the one at the beginning of 1. They could be weird dream/reality things. This would also explain why in KH1 Sora says "another weird dream" (probs completely miss quoted but it was something like that) emphasis on the another. He could have been having more weird dreams before that one. Oh and so could Riku.
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| So it seems like that KH3D takes place after Re:Coded - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 13:00, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Are you sure they didn't mean the development or situation takes place after Re:coded? The next line doesn't tie in as well unless that's what they meant.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 13:05, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
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| '''The story takes place after Kingdom Hearts Re:Coded''' I would say that means 3D takes place after Re:coded - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 13:18, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::Yes, and Heartstation also translated Nomura saying that KH3 would come out soon. We all know how that ended up.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 13:53, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
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| Somehow I got the feeling that this will be another data-based game again like Re:Coded... just saying tho [[User:17master|17master]] 14:40, September 21, 2010 (UTC)
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| I think that they are just prototypes for the trailer, just to keep players interested.--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 23:39, September 21, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman
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| Just wait until the interview actually comes out to see whether or not he mentions it taking place after Re:coded.
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| Of course, I still stand behind the theory that some information may come out with the 3DS's release date news, which should be on the 29th, so we may get some solid answers. (But then again, this is Nomura we're talking about.) [[User:Tamroc7|Tamroc7]] 02:15, September 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| Why would we get solid answers with Nomura *cough* BBSFM *cough*--My Keyblade + Your face = pwnage 14:16, September 23, 2010 (UTC)Chihuahuaman
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| Nomura said they weren't planning to make a FM to BBS. Also, he's not the only one to chose if they'll make a FM or not. Maybe some of his bosses said they had to make one... - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 23:15, October 5, 2010 (UTC)
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| Ok, I don't know how someone has already done this to the article, but no were in that short interview did nomura say '''Anything''' that we have in the trivia section. (that and it directly contradicts previous interviews.[[Special:Contributions/66.56.199.131|66.56.199.131]] 20:08, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{iZerox|time=20:15, September 30, 2010 (UTC)|text=I left the link in the summary of my edit. Go watch it and skip to that point. You'll hear it yourself. >.>}}
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| '''Nomura''': ''"Though it seems a tentative name, we have included "3D" in the new Kingdom Hearts game title. It also includes "3" which implies that this may be the third iteration of Kingdom Hearts. You'll be able to see what kind of game it will be like from this tentative name. With the encounters, and the contacts with others as the game's theme, you will grow with the character, with the characters in the game. But it's not Sora, whom you are familiar with. This time, you will realize growth by the effects of someone else. It's a unique, and more than a bit of a strange system, that we are trying to build this time. There are limits on the things that we can do in the universe of Kingdom Hearts, but the things we cannot do, we'd like to try them in other software. Starting from Kingdom Hearts, I'd like to work on several titles for the Nintendo 3DS."''
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| Previous interviews indicate that Sora and Riku will be the main characters.[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 14:43, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| :That doesn't mean Sora and Riku won't be the main characters. It could just mean that, while we play as them, nothing really important happens to them, and that, like in Days with Xion, we ''see'' the important things happening to somebody else.[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 14:53, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| well yeah, '''previous'''. The game's on development, there's bound to be mistakes and revisions. Nomura himself states that the main character won't be the same Sora we knew [[User:17master|17master]] 14:55, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| READ WHAT WAS POSTED. WATCH THE VIDEO. HE DIDN'T SAY THAT.
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| All that aside, Nomura changes bit's and pieces sure, most of the trailers and concept art show differences from the finished project. But Nomura says that mostly he thinks of gameplay first before story and;
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| *KH3D was created after Nintendo approached Tetsuya Nomura. Nomura has a unique idea for this game.
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| * KH3D will occur in the same timeline as the current games.
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| * The Two main characters will be Sora and Riku. Throughout the game the two appear to be "alternating", creating a system of two people.
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| ** Nomura wants "A Riku that flies, a Sora that falls."
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| * This story will be full of mystery and will beyond expectations. Due to the timeline, players will have to think hard about the idea, as to not be fooled.
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| * The player will realise the scenario in time, but for the meanwhile it will be a mystery twist.
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| * Nomura cannot reveal more information at this time.
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| * The 3d system will be taken advantage of, but more cannot be said at this time.
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| * The Theme of the game is "trust".
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| [[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 15:10, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| http://forums.khinsider.com/future-kingdom-hearts/152336-nomura-interview-fully-translated.html [[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 15:15, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| CALM DOWN what we mean is Sora and Riku are the main characters, BUT the "Sora" in the game is not the Sora we knew. Meaning that it might be an alternate form of Sora, like Data Sora. We didn't specifically said those two won't be the main character, we just pointed out that the Sora here is most likely will not be the same Sora we know. [[User:17master|17master]] 15:20, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{WS|time=15:26, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=Maybe it has something to do with Xion, but maybe they're replicas of SorA? I thought I read something like that. But I still think it'll reveal more about how Riku got on the other side of Kingdom hearts and how he arrived at castle oblivion.}}
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| It doesn't say that there is a different Sora.
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| ''"You will realize growth by the effects of someone else."''
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| we didn't say he will be different, we said he MIGHT be different. Nomura did state this Sora is not who we are familiar with [[User:17master|17master]] 15:44, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{WS|time=15:58, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=Maybe Riku's exploring the Jurnal? Or maybe Sora's memories?}}
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| {{ErryTalk|text=Since there are realms in Kingdom Hearts wouldn't that mean that there would be different universes or something similar? And that this Sora is of a different universe, same with Riku?}}
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| you mean... parallel universe? [[User:17master|17master]] 16:05, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| What Nomura meant by a Sora that falls and a Riku that flies?--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 16:07, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{WS|time=16:15, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=I think we're starting to confuse ourselves. let's try looking for explinations related to the three games 3D is supposed to be connected to: Birth by Sleep, Coded, and 358/2 days. I'm sure there are some clues there to help with this.}}
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| Xabryn, It's a pun. because "Sora" is the japanese word for sky, and "Riku" is the japanese
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| word for land. so, a "Flying land" and "Falling sky" implies, among other things, that their usual positions would be reversed. Also, I can't help but think that the part in the
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| 3DS conference talking about characters has more to do with gameplay and how the characters "grow" and "level up", than anything else.
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| http://www.siliconera.com/2009/12/28/is-this-one-of-tetsuya-nomuras-unannounced-games/
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| He doesn't say that this Sora is not the one we know, he says that growth is realised not by Sora but by "someone else".[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 17:03, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{ST|text=good point, he never did say you wouldn't ''play'' as Sora. how bout we just way until more info comes in before we start arguing about this stuff}}
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| And now back to how this all started: Someone please change the Trivia.Preferably with ALL the interviews (as posted above.) included with EXACT transcript of what he said in the 3DS conference.[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 17:26, October 8, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{J.Severe|text=Well, I think the game is [[Reconnect. Kingdom Hearts|the secret ending of Re:Coded]]. That is to say, based on the info given there, that Sora & Riku will compete in the Mark of Mastery exam by traveling to different worlds, until they ultimately confront the newly revived Master Xehanort. Also, this "unfamiliar" Sora might be that Sora here is not nice but actually obsessed with beating Riku, and that Riku is more successful than Sora in that he's not so competitive, so "Riku flies and Sora falls." But this is just my idea...}}
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| {{WS|time=22:46, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=That's actually a great theory.}}
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| {{Chitalian8|time=22:48, October 8, 2010 (UTC)|text= I don't think that this will be the plot.
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| # This isn't Kingdom Hearts III, and I think that plotline will be saved for that.}}
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| # That was just for the E3 demo, which was specifically put together to not provide plot information. Sora and Riku's appearances are subject to change.
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| # We don't know jack about what KH3 will be about.[[Special:Contributions/76.4.4.167|76.4.4.167]] 00:10, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{J.Severe|text=Yes, precisely. KH3 hasn't even been started yet, and no one knows when it comes out. Besides, all the previous secret endings were for handheld games.
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| BBS & Re:Coded - ???!
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| And plus, Nomura said that this game takes place after ''coded'', so this is our best bet.}}
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| Really, Have none of you realized what Nomura is saying?
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| '''Nomura''': ''" With the encounters, and the contacts with others as the game's theme, you will grow with the character, with the characters in the game. But it's not Sora, whom you are familiar with. This time, you will realize growth by the effects of someone else."''
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| He is not saying that we will be unfamiliar with this Sora, He is saying that We are already familiar with Sora, and you're not going to grow with Sora, because we use him or encounter him, and grow with him in every KH game! and Now we are going to realize the growths of someone else! PS. RtG
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| {{J.Severe|text=So then we grow with Riku, and Riku flies and Sora falls. Didn't I say this already?}}
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| The more I think about it, the more that battles system makes sense.[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 14:25, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
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| How come the Publisher(s) and Release date(s) pages only has Japan's, USA's and Canada's flags, but not Europe's? Oh gawd, please don't tell me KH3D is Re:CoM all over again... --[[Special:Contributions/84.249.211.221|84.249.211.221]] 18:40, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{Key-blade master|time=18:55, October 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=Ok. it's been stated over and over! KH3D is NOT Re:CoM! It is a completely different game! and it's not a remake! It's a brand new title!}}
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| ...I mean in the way that it'll be only released in Japan and North America, but not Europe. Sorry, I thought it was obvious. --[[Special:Contributions/84.249.211.221|84.249.211.221]] 19:42, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
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| The European flag isn't there because 3D so far hasn't been confirmed to come here yet. Obviously it will be released in Japan, and since it was shown at E3 that pretty much confirms it to be released in the US and Canada too. I'm sure the game will come to Europe too, it just isn't confirmed yet...
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| Also, the thing you said about KH3D being like Re:Com all over again, it was pretty obvious what you actually meant... - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 19:55, October 9, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{Key-blade master|time=[[User:Key-blade master|Key-blade master]] 20:19, October 9, 2010 (UTC)|text= I'm pretty positive that they will release it to NA. they eventually released Re:CoM to NA, so it would only be a matter of time.}}
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| :...I don't care whether or not it'll be released in NA. My main question is "Since the European flag doesn't appear in the Publisher(s) and Release date(s) sections, will KH3D be released in Europe or not?"
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| In other words, will Square give us Europeans the middle finger yet again, or not? --[[Special:Contributions/84.249.211.221|84.249.211.221]] 20:20, October 10, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{Key-blade master|time=[[User:Key-blade master|Key-blade master]] 21:01, October 10, 2010 (UTC)|text=Oh, ok. Was KH Re:CoM not released in europe? Really? Wow. That surprised me. But it says it will be released on January 14th on the site here. I'll see if i can find other info. But since only japan got Coded. I don't see why Europe wouldn't get Re:Coded.}}
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| ^Which is even less likely to not receive an international release.[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 12:43, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
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| Again, we don't get much, but it sounds like Sora is still a main character. [[User:Tamroc7|Tamroc7]] 17:09, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Ergh. It sounds like Riku will be a permanent party member. I hope not. Do we have a source for this? <span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span><span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span><span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 16:03, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
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| :[http://www.khinsider.com/] ,i think it's more like you swtch backand forth between the two, which sounds awesome --ShadowsTwilight 16:48, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
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| OK, he said it isn't the Sora we know. We also saw MANY, MANY soras falling from the sky. So what if there are alternate worlds, and there's like different versions of Sora? (I gotta get a bubble...) -Leetdoom
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| :Bubble? You mean Talk bubble? You have to make em. On topic: No, I doubt it would be an alternate universe, Nomura may have been talking figuratively. --Evnyofdeath 21:15, October 21, 2010 (UTC)
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| He.Did.Not.Say.That.This.Isn't.The.Sora.We.Know. please show me where, using links and direct quotations and vids a couple sections above where he said that. He has been directly quoted several times on this talk page, and the above never passed his lips. (I'd argue whether the 3DS conference has any baring at all since iy's basically him sucking up to Nintendo, but I'll let that slide.)[[Special:Contributions/76.4.4.167|76.4.4.167]] 03:01, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| :[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxITx-e7Qzo The link] was above; '''read''', for cripe's sake. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 03:07, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| I was, in fact, the person who posted that in this page and if you could kindly quote for me where he says ''"This isn't the Sora you know,"'' I'd very greatly appreciate it.[[Special:Contributions/76.4.4.167|76.4.4.167]] 03:13, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| :...did watching the video not occur to you? [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 03:35, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| ...And I suddenly know how Hades feels,[[Special:Contributions/76.4.4.167|76.4.4.167]] 03:59, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| :That quote is VERY vauge and can be taken in many different ways. --Evnyofdeath 04:18, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| I'm afraid the IP's right, maggosh, it sounds more like sora wo't be a playable character, although if i'm not mistaken every other piece of info we have on this game seems to say otherwise --[[User:ShadowsTwilight|ShadowsTwilight]] 04:03, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| Quick question, what does "growth" mean within the context of a JRPG? Does it have more to do with Character Development or Leveling Up? Just to get our definitions straight here.[[Special:Contributions/76.4.4.167|76.4.4.167]] 04:09, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Erm, could I have the link to the actual trailer please? --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 04:11, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| We don't have one.Sorry.[[Special:Contributions/76.4.4.167|76.4.4.167]] 04:12, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| What do you think he means by that? If Sora's not the character we're "Growing" with, than who is?[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 14:08, October 22, 2010 (UTC)
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| Almost everything on the page is speculation - we need to clean things up. We don't know anything about the game in actuality, because the trailer has been called a tech demo.[[Special:Contributions/69.208.82.249|69.208.82.249]] 17:45, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
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| Except for "''it will feature both Sora and Riku as playable characters, although using their Kingdom Hearts designs''", everything on this page is a result of an interview or, in the case of the ''Trailer'' subsection, information taken directly from the trailer (and it belongs in this section; it hasn't spread to being regarded as canon). There isn't much if any speculation on this page in that respect. <span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span>]][[User_talk:Soxra|<span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span>]][[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 23:34, October 23, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{Chihuahuaman|time=15:20, October 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=Why not only put the confirmed info in the article and lock the page untill next year?}}
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| Exactly, a staffer needs to fix it, it's loaded with unconfirmed stuff. [[User:LightRoxas|LightRoxas]] 02:22, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::''everything on this page is a result of an interview or, in the case of the ''Trailer'' subsection, information taken directly from the trailer (and it belongs in this section; it hasn't spread to being regarded as canon). There isn't much if any speculation on this page in that respect.''
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| I really hate repeating stuff... [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 02:29, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
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