Editing Talk:Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep

==Might buy a PSP just for this...===

Will you???[[User:NobodiewithaHeart|NobodiewithaHeart]] 02:18, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

too late, i already did.........too early tho LOL - [[User:Zack fair 007|Zack fair 007]] 02:26, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

I got a PSP from my friend for £50 just for this game --[[User:Lexoj|Lexoj]] 09:06, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I just bought another one. LOL YAY --Zack fair 007 00:48, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Got myself one for Christmas. ;] [[User:Guardian Soul|Guardian Soul]] 02:20, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations! Did you pick up Crisis Core? Or dissidia? --Zack fair 007 04:04, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Got Crisis Core, I'm at Sephiroth. [[User:Guardian Soul|Guardian Soul]] 04:14, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes!!Definitely!!--[[User:Ven&#39;s Heart|Ven&#39;s Heart]] 23:01, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=Well, here's the sad part: the only coverage I'll be getting for Birth By Sleep is through uploaded videos, so... this will completely shatter my track record of having '''every single Kingdom Hearts game''' in the shelves. Boo-hoo. :'(}}

==Birth by sleep?==

I think, I think that the games title suggests that somone is created thru or by sleep, perhaps "Xion" was born in the "Room of SLEEP" seen in kingdom hearts 2, and is in some way the nobodie of Aqua, and perhaps Roxas is acctually the soul of Sora, and the body of Ventus, because they were both defeated in the battle with master Xhenort, and the only ones who survived were Terra, and the Xhenort that was apprenticed to Ansem who is the antagonist of the two main KH games.

I know it's not very coherant... but I think I'm onto somthing, just like how the Xehnort of the KH games is acctually the apprentice of the old bald guy in the movie, explaining why Xemnas would know Aqua well enough to adress her empty (But somhow still alive, it(she) talked back to him) armor as "friend".

{{TNE|text=You might have a point there. All the same, look up [[Talk:Terra]] and [[Talk:Aqua]]. Someone posted the same theory of Terra and Xehanort, but I don't know - for some reason, I felt I had to refute it.}}

== Please stop editing and Un-editing the Pride Lands ==

It's getting annoying.

== Trailer! ==

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1us0KFcrCYM&feature=related

Already on master xehanort's apprenice talk page (what a mouthful!) but here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X0P98qJjNA&feature=related

the "script" section seems to describe this Trailer, the oldest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IgDxprn8bk&feature=related
Oh, and Zack Fair 007 for your recent edit AFYT (And F*** You Too).[[Special:Contributions/76.3.217.65|76.3.217.65]] 13:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

== Twilight Town ==

{{Guardian Soul|text=I'm pretty sure that we haven't seen any scans confirming Twilight Town, whoever keeps adding it needs to stop.}}

==Screens & Scans==
{{Xiggie|text=Hello, I have made a [http://khxiggie.blogcentral.is/sida/2370090/ blog about Kingdom Hearts], there I have put up all the Screenshots I could find on KH: BBS. Please look at the page if you're interested in seeing these pics, and please tell me (send me) Screenshots / Scans if you know of / have one :D}}

== Script ==
{{MM841|Joey-Sugarland|Do we really need a script of the trailers?? Cant we just put the trailers at the bottom}}

{{Xiggie|text=I think that would be much smarter... I just did it because there was already a "script" section, but that one was WAY out of date :P}}

{{Xiggie|text=OK, I just finished setting it up!

sorry about the quality in the second trailer!

'''''If anyone knows of this trailer in better quality, then please put it in!'''''}}

{{Xiggie|text=Eh, ultima... what trailer are you describing?... cause, it isn't right (you add things that aren't in those two trailers... such as Terra's battle with '''[[Master Xehanort's Apprentice]]''' (he hasn't been revealed to be a "guardian"). And also Terra saying: “Please don’t depend on me, just erase me… friend.” when did he say that? if you have a trailer and / or a scan saying it, then OK, but add it to the article! (or give a link to it)

and another thing... why don't you just say Ven and Terra instead of  ''young boy who looks like Roxas'' and ''young boy with dark hair''?}}
{{MM841|Sanctuary|Erm, I did not add that information}}

{{Xiggie|text=Oh, so sorry :P}}

{{Xiggie|text=Should we have it up?}}

==Just wanted to make one thing clear!==
{{Xiggie|text=Sometime ago, when I was reading some text about BBS, someone had written that When Ven says to Aqua: "erase me" that they were in Twilight Town. That is Wrong! They are on the mainland of Destiny Islands. compare the following:}}
[[Image:Ven_BirthBySleep2.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Ven and Aqua on '''Destiny Islands''']]
[[Image:Destiny_Islands_Shore1.png|thumb|left|300px|Kairi on Destiny Islands mainland shore]]

{{Guardian Soul|text=It's obviously Destiny Islands, whoever said it was Twilight Town is a fool.}}

{{Xiggie|text=Well, OK then. But I am certain that i read it here somewhere...

another point i'd like to say: 

Somewhere (also here) I read that Ven was talking to Terra when he said ''"Erase me"'', he is talking to Aqua!}}

== Evil...er ==

When were Master Xehanort and his apprentice confirmed to be villains?

{{Guardian Soul|text=I don't think they were but judging from the secret ending, they can't be very friendly.}}

{{Xiggie|text=Yes...they are seen fighting Terra, Ven and Aqua, and since they're the good guys, MX and the apprentice are the bad guys, thus being villains!}}

how do we Know Terra Ven and Aqua Are Good Guys?[[Special:Contributions/76.3.217.65|76.3.217.65]] 13:58, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Because you're playing as them. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 15:13, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

that's evidence.....how?
besides For the sake of argument if they are good guys how does MX and MXA fighting them evil, the dissidia heroes fight all the time

they look like bad guys, not to mention the fact that Terra, Ven and Aqua are fighting the villans in the disney worlds. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 16:47, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

{{Xiggie|text=Also, watch their fight... it doesn't seem friendly to me!}}

{{zackfair007|text=Judging by the trailers, It seems like he was bad, and became good after he realized DS was a mistake. He says "Correct my mistake! when ven is defeated by DS and in the coliseum. I think its safe to say theres a bigger villain, And Master Xehanort is trying to correct past mistakes.}}

== theme song ==

any bets on utada hikaru performing/writing it?[[Special:Contributions/76.3.217.65|76.3.217.65]] 13:58, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
:Most likely. She did for everything else, didn't she? Tetsuya Nomura likes her voice. --Zack fair 007 16:41, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

What already existing songs would any of you recomend(I hear they have translations of the japanese ones somewhere)[[Special:Contributions/76.3.217.65|76.3.217.65]] 13:58, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

== Princesses of Heart ==
{{Xiggie|text=I have a feeling that the Pricesses of Heart ''(Snow White, Aurora, Cindarella and maybe Belle)'' were captured during the events of BBS by Maleficent ''(and/or MX)'' !

and due to their stay in the pods in Hollow Bastion, they didn't Age! ''(Snow White, Aurora, Cindarella and Belle don't seem to age in those 10 years between BBS and KHI !)''

does anyone agree?}}

{{TNE|text=About the Princesses being captured, yes, I also think their search began way back in MX's time. MX was seeking for them too. They were forced into an enchanted sleep, so they didn't age.

Though what puzzles me is this : if Snow White was actually captured in the time of Birth By Sleep, why the cutscene in the first Kingdom Hearts where if Wonderland is not completed, Snow White gets into Hollow Bastion ? (I mean, of course, Alice would be the correct one...)}}

{{Xiggie|shocked=Uhhh... sorry Troisnyx, but I have no idea what you're talking about... what cutscene?}}

{{TNE|text=The first ''Kingdom Hearts''... when you complete Wonderland immediately after Traverse Town (if I'm not mistaken), there's a cutscene where the Disney villains gather in Hollow Bastion... and Alice stumbles into the Castle Chapel, wondering what that place is (she is captured soon after).

If you complete any other world first after Traverse Town, then Alice is replaced by Snow White - which would seem like an anomaly because Snow White should've been captured in BBS itself...}}

{{Xiggie|text=oh... hehe, I've never seen that cutscene! guess I've always started at Wonderland!

but then... could she have escaped or something? (Snow White that is)}}

{{TNE|text=Beats me. Apparently, once the Princesses are captured, they're forced into an enchanted sleep. The only three Princesses of Heart (from what we've seen) who are energetic enough to attack are Kairi, Jasmine and Belle. Snow White looks too....... docile !}}

== Party Members ==
{{Xiggie|text=I was just thinking... will there be party members?

I think not! sure, Jaq may help Ven at times, but I doubt that he'll actually fight alongside him... and Jaq is the only "good" AI character I've seen that could possibly be a party member!}}
{{TNE|text=Let's just hope it doesn't turn out like the first part of Reverse/Rebirth where Riku was all alone......}}

{{Xiggie|sad=I'm afraid that that might be the case...}}

== Keyblades? ==

Do Sora’s, Riku’s and King Mickey’s Keyblades appear in Birth by Sleep (like in the secret ending of KH II) or are they just there in the secret ending to represent the roles of the main characters. I mean have they been confirmed to appear?
If so, then why would the Way to the Dawn Keyblade be there I thought it did not exist until, after the events of birth by sleep.

{{TNE|text=I'm pretty sure they appear. The Kingdom Key is the standard throughout the game, and so is the other half. I doubt Mickey's Keyblade will appear as he went to the Realm of Darkness to get it (and that takes place ten years after).

I have a feeling that the Way to the Dawn is a Keyblade entity in itself, and that Soul Eater was only created based on that Keyblade.}}
{{Guardian Soul|text=Actually, I think that they were just there to show a connection with the future generation of Keyblade wielders.  The secret endings are only concept videos, and if you notice, Terra, Aqua, and Ven, don't have those Keyblades in the newer secret ending.}}
{{TNE|text=Hm...... I'm beginning to wonder.......}}

== KING MICKEY? ==

{{zackfair007|text=Can it be possible Mickey was chosen by the keyblade? They originally wanted him as the main character, he is the only one in BBS (so far) with a keyblade and a '''keychain'''.}}
{{TNE|shocktext=I'm beginning to feel the same too...... That heart of his never showed a trace of weakness.}}
{{zackfair007|text=Exactly. I hope he is. And hey howd u do the "shock" face and normal face?}}
{{TNE|happytext=Go see this guide I wrote here : [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Talk Template Archive/Emotion Guide]]. An example of the coding is there.}}

Hey, does anyone have any clue about the gameplay of the game? There have been a few gameplay videos and I would have thought someone would have put a "Gameplay" section in this article already. I hope they do soon - the gameplay looks very good but is very confusing as unfortunately I can't read Japanese. I'm sure plenty of people will find it relieving and also somewhat useful.

Regards, WorldofChaos =]
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 {{TNE|text=Well, here's the sad part: the only coverage I'll be getting for Birth By Sleep is through uploaded videos, so... this will completely shatter my track record of having '''every single Kingdom Hearts game''' in the shelves. Boo-hoo. :'(}}
-me to but i only have CoM right now and i lost it :( but i will be getting 358/2 days when it comes out.--KHF 20:03, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 ==Birth by sleep?==
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 {{TNE|text=You might have a point there. All the same, look up [[Talk:Terra]] and [[Talk:Aqua]]. Someone posted the same theory of Terra and Xehanort, but I don't know - for some reason, I felt I had to refute it.}}
-Xion was not born in the room of sleep they have the story line of 358/2 days here and Xion isn't even a nobody!--KHF 20:08, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 == Please stop editing and Un-editing the Pride Lands ==
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 {{Guardian Soul|text=I'm pretty sure that we haven't seen any scans confirming Twilight Town, whoever keeps adding it needs to stop.}}
-Actually... Wouldn't it make sense that Twilight Town is in this game? There are scenes of King Mickey, Donald, and Goofy in Yen Sid's castle, and Yen Sid's castle is in Twilight Town, so...[[User:Aeroclaw24|Aeroclaw24]] 20:14, 15 June 2009 (UTC)Aeroclaw24
 ==Screens & Scans==
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 ==Just wanted to make one thing clear!==
 {{Xiggie|text=Sometime ago, when I was reading some text about BBS, someone had written that When Ven says to Aqua: "erase me" that they were in Twilight Town. That is Wrong! They are on the mainland of Destiny Islands. compare the following:}}
-<!--[[File:Ven_BirthBySleep2.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Ven and Aqua on '''Destiny Islands''']]-->
+[[Image:Ven_BirthBySleep2.jpg|thumb|left|300px|Ven and Aqua on '''Destiny Islands''']]
-<!--[[File:Destiny_Islands_Shore1.png|thumb|left|300px|Kairi on Destiny Islands mainland shore]]-->
+[[Image:Destiny_Islands_Shore1.png|thumb|left|300px|Kairi on Destiny Islands mainland shore]]
 {{Guardian Soul|text=It's obviously Destiny Islands, whoever said it was Twilight Town is a fool.}}
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 Somewhere (also here) I read that Ven was talking to Terra when he said ''"Erase me"'', he is talking to Aqua!}}
-Go to my [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kingdomheartsfreek#Kingdom_Hearts_BBS| home page] and look at the virtual theory that is what i think "erase me" means.--KHF 20:13, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 == Evil...er ==
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 {{zackfair007|text=Judging by the trailers, It seems like he was bad, and became good after he realized DS was a mistake. He says "Correct my mistake! when ven is defeated by DS and in the coliseum. I think its safe to say theres a bigger villain, And Master Xehanort is trying to correct past mistakes.}}
-DS is confirmed to be a villein but MX is not a confirmed villein.--KHF 20:15, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
 == theme song ==
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 {{TNE|happytext=Go see this guide I wrote here : [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Talk Template Archive/Emotion Guide]]. An example of the coding is there.}}
-==Gameplay==
 Hey, does anyone have any clue about the gameplay of the game? There have been a few gameplay videos and I would have thought someone would have put a "Gameplay" section in this article already. I hope they do soon - the gameplay looks very good but is very confusing as unfortunately I can't read Japanese. I'm sure plenty of people will find it relieving and also somewhat useful.
 Regards, WorldofChaos =]
-{{HeartOfOblivion|text=Did anyone else notice the Command Menu on these gameplay videos?
-*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPzLkqqHJgg&feature=related]
-*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzKfezFk52I&feature=related]
-To me, it looks like everytime a character attacks an enemy, their Command Menu bar (don't know what else to call it) fills up until they can use a Mode Change. I also noticed that their normal attacks under the Command Menu bar take time to load and that you can't use them until they load.}}
-:Yeah. Looks almost like a quick limit break. TBH, I hated using up magic for that thing. Maybe they fixed it so it's more Final Fantasy-ish? --Zack fair 007 16:53, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
-== Guys! you think that this game will be out for June 25 09? ==
-men im confused in this please help!
-:Nope. 100% Positive. They won't release it in Japan until the END of 09, and they wont release it here until 2010. And in europe, Possibly 2067. --Zack fair 007 16:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
-thanks Zack!
-:Anytime. Just one thing; the 2067 thing was a joke. In case you have no sense of humor XD --Zack fair 007 15:28, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
-well i wish it will came in june 25 in japan
-:Technically it is June 25th over there now. So i doubt it. --Zack fair 007 19:36, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
-== Date ==
-{{KingdomHeartsFan|text= can anyone tell me if the release date has been confirmed for the japan release. (proof please) }}
-{{zackfair007|text=NO. 2009. Please read any info on birth by sleep, go to khinsider, youtube and other sites instead of asking up directly. Well actually, in fact I WILL answer any KH questions. ilyas619@hotmail.com}}