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{{move|Keyblade of heart}}<!--name given in Xehanort's Report VI, with same original name as this one; see lowest topic for confirmation-->
==Where==
==Where==
{{XNX|text=Where did the name ''"Keblade of People's Hearts"'' come from?}}
{{XNX|text=Where did the name ''"Keblade of People's Hearts"'' come from?}}
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::Any particular reason "heart" is lowercased in the article title? I assume it's to match with the Xehanort report, but frankly, I can't read Japanese. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 17:21, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
::Any particular reason "heart" is lowercased in the article title? I assume it's to match with the Xehanort report, but frankly, I can't read Japanese. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 17:21, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
:To match the Xehanort report, yes. There is absolutely no backing to the assumption that "Heart" is meant to be an uppercased "term".{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:56, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
:To match the Xehanort report, yes. There is absolutely no backing to the assumption that "Heart" is meant to be an uppercased "term".{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:56, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
::Speaking of which (and if you haven't seen my talk page yet), sorry about the whole messed up earlier. I didn't know that the H was supposed to be lowercase since when I saw this section, it was capitalized. Sorry for the messed up, Kryten. :(--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 19:05, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
== Sora ==
Should he be listed as a wielder?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 06:19, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
I don't see why not. He did use it.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:07, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
:Ehhhhhhhhhh... Is it wielding if you just stab yourself with it? (Although I guess you can consider it parallel to Aqua just picking up the Master Keeper...)  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 22:42, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
::Well, technically, yes...--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 02:52, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Aqua used the Master Keeper during the Secret Episode though. But I guess it's fine to say Sora wielded the Keyblade of heart, even if it was only to stab himself (like Riku would have done before fighting him). --[[Special:Contributions/141.63.110.51|141.63.110.51]] 08:41, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
::I would hardly call that wielding it, mainly because he never actually fought with it. [[User:Blackchaos27|Blackchaos27]] ([[User talk:Blackchaos27|talk]]) 16:42, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
:::Riku is never seen fighting with Destiny's Embrace. Still, where did the lighter fluid come from? [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 16:47, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
::Which is why I don't get why Riku is considered as a wielder of Destiny's Embrace. He never fought with it, let alone used it for anything. And the circumstances behind its appearance has never been confirmed, just speculated(Where's the proof that he used the Synch Blade ability?). Stabbing yourself with a weapon you just picked up is not really wielding it. Anyone can just pick up a weapon and stab himself with it and not be considered a wielder. [[User:Blackchaos27|Blackchaos27]] ([[User talk:Blackchaos27|talk]]) 18:58, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
:We've already determined that there is no evidence that Riku used Synch Blade, but let's stay on topic here.
:The short summary is that the KoH didn't stick around long enough for a conclusive answer. Since Sora picking it up is comparable to Aqua picking up Master Keeper, though, I would say "sure, why not" on this.
:Though the next question (which should not be debated here!) would be, what would happen if someone who was not a Keyblade wielder tried to pick up an abandoned Keyblade?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 21:50, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
::So, we're defining wielder as "used in combat or as a tool"? If so, we need to remove Destiny's Embrace from Riku, since all he did was courier it. That being said: Sora did perform the main function of the KoH on himself. He may not have fought with it, but "stabbing Sora" is basically what the Keyblade was for, and, well, Sora did that. Especially since stabbing yourself would still be a form of combat...I don't see how it doesn't count.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 05:53, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
==Unofficial name==
"Keyblade of heart" is official since that was the name given in the Xehanort Report. I don't see why the unofficial template is there, {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 18:36, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
::In which case, let's remove it.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 18:53, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
== Human Heart ==
I feel like that translation muddies the parallel with "Keyblade of Worlds' Hearts", and makes it sounds like it's linked to just one heart. Possibly also a bit of issue implying it's ''just'' from humans, as well.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:15, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
== Just a proto-version? ==
Should the Keyblade of Heart be consider a weaker, prototype version of the X-blade? The X-blade can unlock Kingdom Hearts, but the Keyblade of Heart can only unlock the hearts of living beings. ([[Special:Contributions/96.68.6.221|96.68.6.221]] 22:40, 11 June 2018 (UTC))
:I say no. Personally, I keep the X-blade on a completely different level- in regards to type/power/etc.. I don't recall any mention of the Keyblade of heart being connect to the X-blade at all. Plus, since most Keyblade wielders can unlock peoples' hearts with "regular" Keyblades anyways... {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 13:11, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
== Appearances ==
Hasn't this appeared in KHUX, KH3D, and KHIII via flashbacks?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 19:53, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
== Name in MoM ==
In MoM, the Keyblade is called "Keyblade of Heart" with capital H. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 13:13, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
::Of course it is. -_-; Do we mention this on the page or move it back to Keyblade of Heart? It was originally moved because since it was the name given to the Keyblade in the Xehanort's Report.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 01:35, 27 November 2020 (UTC)

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