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Let us start with comparing the heads. Both have the metal plumes coming off on both sides and are identical in almost every way except for color. The only difference is that Xemnas dons a crown. All the keyblade armors have unique shoulder armors, so does Xemnas's. Compare the design and structure of the chest it's quite similar. The key difference here is that Xemnas's is parted by a nobody insignia in the center. Both armors feature elongated arm guards from the lower arm. Xemnas's is quite a deal larger but most everything in his armors design is over the top to add a powerful feel to it. Now I'd like to direct your attention to the feet. Both have metal wings that sprout from them. Xemnas's armor has much smaller ones but they are clearly there.
Let us start with comparing the heads. Both have the metal plumes coming off on both sides and are identical in almost every way except for color. The only difference is that Xemnas dons a crown. All the keyblade armors have unique shoulder armors, so does Xemnas's. Compare the design and structure of the chest it's quite similar. The key difference here is that Xemnas's is parted by a nobody insignia in the center. Both armors feature elongated arm guards from the lower arm. Xemnas's is quite a deal larger but most everything in his armors design is over the top to add a powerful feel to it. Now I'd like to direct your attention to the feet. Both have metal wings that sprout from them. Xemnas's armor has much smaller ones but they are clearly there.
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::::::::I don't see any reason to not treat it as canon. We use the Bradygames guides to determine the English names of otherwise-unnamed topics everywhere else (attack names, enemy names, enemy stats, etc.). As far as I have found, the games use "armor" (not "Armor"), indicating that we don't currently have an in-game canon name. We have a long precedent of accepting the Bradygames name in that instance.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:58, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::::I don't see any reason to not treat it as canon. We use the Bradygames guides to determine the English names of otherwise-unnamed topics everywhere else (attack names, enemy names, enemy stats, etc.). As far as I have found, the games use "armor" (not "Armor"), indicating that we don't currently have an in-game canon name. We have a long precedent of accepting the Bradygames name in that instance.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 17:58, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::@Lady Junky: All right, thank you! :D I'll add the citation to the page, then.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:49, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
:::::::::@Lady Junky: All right, thank you! :D I'll add the citation to the page, then.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:49, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
::::::::::Since we don't have a source for the Japanese name yet, I'm going to change it to just 鎧, as it is called in the Ultimania. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:21, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
== Sources ==
If we're accurately citing to a published work, we don't need the image. We're using proper citing already.
For the interviews, we need to cite to the ''interview'', not to khinsider. We can credit goldpanner or whoever for the translation, but khinsider is not the original source.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:35, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
:We may not ''need'' the image, but I think it's a good idea to keep it nevertheless. Providing physical evidence of the page from the guide book—an image directly showing where we got our source from—further validates that fact for readers who do not own the guide book and/or simply do not want it, and to readers who believe we're "making stuff up". It's not my style to sweat the small stuff, so if you guys really want to remove it, then that's fine. The link to the image adds more credibility since it allows readers to click on the link and see the evidence for their own eyes, but if you guys are oppose to having it, I'll concede to what the community wants. It's nothing to make a fuss over.
:As for the sources, I do try to cite the original interviews, though it's hard considering that I have don't which page or issue which interview is from. All I am doing is quoting from the translators and sourcing them at the end of the reference. By no means is the citation claiming that KHInsider is the original source since I literally put "Translation via Goldpanner/Lissar" at the very end (I was following the examples we already had on the KHWiki when I began doing this), because as per our policies and their policies, we have to credit them if we're using their translations as a source. KHInsider have their resident translations, though they sometimes don't credit who specifically done the translations in their published posts or in the forums.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:25, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
::Then the image can be put on the talk page. It sets a bad precedent to require scans when things are already accurately cited.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:51, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
:::I don't see how it's bad. I've always been taught the more valid sources you have, the better it is, because people will always have the "see it to believe it" mindset. I thought providing physical evidence of the actual scan of the page was a good thing, because it only ever works in one's favor. But if you're that against it, then you can remove it.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:03, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
::::I don't see why people would think we're making stuff up when we are directly quoting the book and even mention the exact page it can be found on. If people need to "see it to believe it", then they should get the book themselves. And like Kryten said, we can put the link on the talk page, so people can still see it. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 22:28, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
:::::Well, both the wikias and Wikipedia are always considered dubious sites to retrieve information from, and teachers often lecture students even "sources" can be ultimately false. It's something that's always been drilled into students, so I always like to have as many credible sources as possible. I still don't see the harm in keeping the link to the image, but very well. It's nothing to make a huge deal over.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 22:44, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

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