Editing Talk:Kairi

== Kairi ==

Yo, Akamoron here.  I felt a need to start a discussion on Kairi.  So here are a few topics...


== Princess? ==

If Kiari was the princess of Radiant Garden, wouldn't that make her Ansem the wise's daughter? or Gradaughter?

{{SorcerorNobodyTalk
|time=20:47, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
|text=Sorry to nag, but first of all... PLEASE spell her name right! So... fair question, but I'm pretty sure the answer is no. No relation. Besides, the Ansem Reports mention that he selected "a girl". Don't you think that Xehanort would assign a little more significance if said girl was related to Ansem the Wise?

Though this does raise questions on the issue of a monarchy vs. Ansem the Wise ruling Radiant Garden, it may be that there was a monarchy but that Ansem essentially was ruler. Roughly analogous to the UK's monarchy, perhaps.

Of course, there is potential interpretation in the term "Princess", since Alice and Belle are "Princesses", yet aren't generally classed as such in the royal sense, unlike Snow White, Jasmine, Aurora and Cinderella.
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{{Xiggie|text=I don't think it is true, but if Ansem is Kairi's father, then wouldn't Kairi's grandmother be his mother :P}}

You don't have to be an ''actural'' princess to be a er... princess, take alice for example. [[User:Myself 123|'''<font color="scarlet">Myself 123</font>''']] 23:17, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|text=You mean, you don't have to be an actual princess to be a '''Princess of Heart'''. We don't know about Kairi's lineage at all... darn}}

Agreed, look at Wendy. No royal blood mentioned, and she gets mistaken for a princess of heart. If she were a actual princess, not princess of heart the other kind, they would say so or call her " Princess Wendy ".--[[User:PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart|PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart]] 17:33, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

== SoraXKairi? ==

Though there are many scenes where Sora and Kairi show that they really care for eachother (as in more than 'just friends').
They never really admitted it, well...openly anyway.  When are they going to kiss or do something; c'mon Square, throw us a bone!
:''[[User:Akamoron|Akamoron]]'' 21:14, 22 June 2008.

I know i feel the same way,every SoraXkairi fan is waiting since kingdom hearts 1

{{SorcerorNobodyTalk
|time=20:54, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
|text=Oh, surely you know how Square-Enix love to make us squirm. Anyway, they never confirmed, say, CloudXAeris/Tifa either way. They just like to leave the niche open for pairings.

For reference, SoraXKairi, RoxasXNaminé and CloudXAeris 4evar from me!
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Exactly! I really want something to happen. It's driving me nuts! Do you think something will eventually happen?

I '''HOPE''' something happens. Oh yessssssss, I can just picture Sora kissing Kairi right now. Teehee. :D [[User:Troisnyxetienne|Troisnyxetienne]] 15:45, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
:Well...that's fucking creepy. [[Special:Contributions/69.207.145.217|69.207.145.217]] 03:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

I hope they kiss, hey Square Enix and Disney, Ya better make them kiss if you ever read this stuff, you won't lose fans, ya'll gain 'em.--[[User:PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart|PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart]] 17:26, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

{{TNE|blahtext=@''anonyme'' : Do I ever '''have to tell you about the no-profanity rule ever again......'''

@PrincessAndie : I wonder. All the kissing scenes (except for Mickey's and Minnie's) were cut by the actions of the other characters to spoil the fun. Maybe they'll make it real this time ?}}

@PrincessAndie: There may be a reason Sora and Kairi haven't gone further with this, you know. Ever consider what the rating on this game series, which has Disney characters out the wazoo, would be if these two ended up having a scene together? They may be trying to keep that consistent so the younger-end players can see the 'entire' series instead of being restricted by parents or the law. Still, we can hope. [[Special:Contributions/67.43.20.244|67.43.20.244]] 20:12, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

{{PrincessAndie|text= Well On my page there is a member ( not saying names ) who said that they ( Sora and Kairi ) were gonna kiss but Disney forced Square Enix to take the scene out. That might be the reason. Besides, the youngest age i can think of for people playing these games and understand them is 10 ( which that was me might I add ) 3 years later I'm still stuck in them. and i'm used to the nasty stuff. people on my bus cuss all the time and a girl in my 1st grade cussed once too.}}
{{Firaga44|text=well i hope they kiss in kh3 but in disney movies people kiss and sometimes in square games they kiss come on i see no reason why they can't make sora and kairi kiss}}

The age rating on the Final Fantasy series, if I'm not mistaken, is higher than the age rating on the Kingdom Hearts series. As for the Disney movies, they may be intended for kids, but I've seen stuff that has the joke more intended for adult humor. For example, ever see Aladdin and the King of Thieves? And I quote from Genie looking like a fat girl popping out of a triple decker cake: "It's a bachelor party, big boy!" [[User:Keyblader|Keyblader]] 22:19, 6 July 2009 (UTC)


I think they should kiss! In Hannah Montana and stuff when she was 15 she was toungin almost ever boy that she saw!!! I think that's stupid and you're right! Only teens really play the game! [[Ninabean822]]

{{Keyblader|text=Alright, I'll give you the fact that mostly teens play the game, and the few teens who dare play a game with Disney characters in it at that, but part of the fanbase '''is''' teetering on the lower end of the age rating, possibly lower than what is reccommended if the kid trying to buy the game is smart enough. Yes, they are old enough to have at the very least a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship but there are three things wrong with making this happen:

1: Despite both seeing the cave drawing, the two are completely clueless on the subject

2: While Sora has had fantasies and hinted at the fact that he feels about Kairi at that level, ''it has never been explicitly stated.''

3: Nomura has already stated that he doesn't really care who gets together with whom, and that he's going to leave the subject to the gamers' imaginations.

In short, the chances of this happening are much lower than the demand going around. End of story. I'm sorry, I like this pairing as much as anyone else, but the chances of it actually happening in the official game series is practically zero.}}


Yeah i know ur right...but...the paopu fruit is a symbol of lovers on their world...and when they both saw the picture they both knew they liked each other. (srry the way i said it kinda sounds like im not making any sense). [[User:Ninabean822]]
{{SorcerorNobodyTalk
|time=20:55, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
|text=The paopu is nothing of the sort. The legend is that if two people share a paopu their destinies become forever entwined, and they will always be part of each other's lives. If you think that means lovers by default, I call to your attention the fact that archnemeses (e.g. Cloud and Sephiroth) are destined to forever be rivals, i.e. their destinies are totally entwined. But outside of disturbing fanfiction and hentai, they most certainly aren't lovers.<br><br><small>Note that I have nothing against Yaoi etc. But CloudXSephy is just going too far</small>
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{{Keyblader|text=Actually, I can see where they would come up with that. Attempting to intertwine your lives that tightly has to have a major commitment behind it, and inscribing the desire to make it happen on a cave wall, in my opinion, is the next best thing. So in a sense, it could be a symbol of lovers, though I don't argue with your point: it was never explicitly stated in the game.}}

{{Flashpenny | They're a couple, plain and simple. There are several good reasons for that: 1. The laws of video games and movies forbid that two people of the opposite gender who are the story's main protagonists can spend any amount of time together without developing a romantic bond. 2. If you didn't see it during the ending of the first KH game you're officially mentally disabled. 3. Sora ''committed suicide'' to save Kairi. That ranks just below self-mutilation as how far you'll go for your romantic partner.

Anyone who ever read the 2nd book in the Twilight series should know what I'm talking about there.}}

== kairi's home ==

how is radiant garden her true home???

{{zackfair007|text=YOU ARE AN IDIOT. play KH1 again, or for once, if you havent. PLAY IT.}}

:Zack, please don't call other editors/visitors idiots.  For all you know, this person actually hasn't played or finished the first game, or is younger and doesn't understand some parts of the plot. 

(Exception to the idiot rule: vandals and bots.)[[User:BebopKate|BebopKate]] 18:42, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

== Kairi's Arrival at Destiny Islands ==

{{Template:XNamineX|text=I think I figured out all the mysterious factors of Kairi showing up at Destiny Islands: Kairi is a Princess of Heart, meaning that 10 years ago, during Birth by Sleep, she would have been targeted by Maleficent, Master Xehanort, his apprentice, and possibley Terra Ven and Aqua. Now, from the Ansem Reports, we can assume that King Mickey and Ansem the Wise met and started working together aroud the time of Birth by Sleep. What I think happened is, Ansem and/or Mickey somehow found out that Kairi was in fact one of the "seven maidens of pure light". As a last resort to keep Maleficent, Master Xehanort, his apprentice, and possibley even Terra Ven and Aqua from obtaining all the Princesses, they took one, Kairi, in a (newly invented) Gummi Ship and hid her on the small, unsuspecting world of Destiny Islands. The meteor shower started "as a result of its door being opened" (see Origin section of [[Gummi Ship]]). I find this to be my least favorite of all my theories, but I wouldn't waste my time posting it if I didn't find it likely. Tell me what you all think.}}

{{Xiggie|text=Wow... sounds likely!}}

{{TNE|text=Sounds plausible. Wait : for all those years Destiny Islands was untouched by Maleficent and the darkness, right ?}}

But according to "Ansem" (Xehanort) He sent a "Special Girl" To Find the keyblade [[Ansem Reports#Ansem Report 11]]

{{TNE|blahtext=Okay, now I'm getting confused in this mess of text.}}

It's simple xNaminex's '''THEORY''' is wrong

{{TNE|angrytext=Fine, but you could be a bit more '''COURTEOUS''' in saying so.}}

My apologies

{{TNE|blahtext=Accepted. By the way, xNaminex's theory is right, according to Director's Secret Report XIII. Also, the Final Mix version of the Ansem Reports do state that Xehanort's Heartless '''knew''' of the connection between the Keyblade wielder and the Princess of Heart, and he was fully aware of Kairi's status when he sent her off to the Destiny Islands, hoping that his hypothesis would actually come to fruition.}}

where the hell in director's secret report 13 say that

okay xNaminex's '''''theory''''' was that the "Real" Ansem and king mickey sent kairi to destiny islands to keep her safe, whereas Xehanort's reports state that he sent "on the ocean of worlds" to find the keybearer (and presumably kill him/convert him)

{{TNE|text=Okay, lemme get this straight - all of you are confusing me !

I re-read xNaminex's theory (which you don't have to put in '''''bold italics'''''), and yes, there's an error. Xehanort sent Kairi to DI, believing that the Princess of Heart and the wielder are connected, and he waited for years to test that hypothesis.

Killing or converting him would not be an option, though, as he knows that the Keyblade wielder has some power which '''he'd''' wanna use for his own ends.}}

should i define "Convert" for you

{{TNE|blahtext=Very well...... though you could start by stopping that insolence of yours.}}

I'm joining the side of xNaminex, I think her theory could have happened.--[[User:PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart|PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart]] 17:28, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

despite all (official) Evidence to the contrary?

Okay xNaminex had a good theory.Wrong,but a step in the right direction.But this?This is getting ridiculous.
I have a question when and how did Kairi get to the Destiny Islands--[[User:Firaga44|Firaga44]] 01:48, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Well in the ansem report he refers to where he sends her as the "ocean of other worlds".Nomura also uses a similar wording when mentiong space as the "the sea of outer space" I forgot where though.SO it's likely that she was placed in a gummi ship and landed at destiny islands kinda like superman.As to when it's probably in the BBS timeframe.--[[Special:Contributions/74.210.24.180|74.210.24.180]] 05:21, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

{{Morghman|I wonder if Kairi's showing up during a meteor shower influenced Namine's choice in placing the false memories of her asking for protection from the meteors in Sora and Repliku's hearts? It has been stated that Namine doesn't remember Kairi's life, but I can't help but feel it was purposely put there to signify something between Kairi and Namine's relationship.}}

{{XNX|text=Naminé probably knows about the meteor shower throught Sora's memories.}}

==Semi-protection?==
{{SorcerorNobodyTalk
|time=17:56, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
|text=Barely a day goes by when my periodic check of my watchlist doesn't show an IP that has edited the Kairi article. Of course, it's only been vandalism a couple of times, but is it worth semi-protecting the article?
|category=Suggestion
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{{TNE|text=If you ask me, no... Because sometimes, valuable edits are made, and the grammar needs to be checked. I remember the Heartless article was semi-protected at one time - I couldn't edit, adn the grammar was all out, even if the info was intact. I don't know - someone voiced this out later, and it's now open for public editing.}}
{{SorcerorNobodyTalk
|time=21:01, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
|text=Eh, you're probably right about leaving it unprotected.

Just out of interest: correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't semi-protect mean it can be edited by any ''registered user'', whereas it's ''full-protect'' that's admins only? In which case, why couldn't you, as you said, edit the Heartless article? :S
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{{TNE|text=At that point in time, I was not registered as TNE yet.}}

== is the granny dead ==

ok is kairis granny is dead i mean what if she was aqua who fell in a time hole and went back 10 yeaars before birth by sleep and is kairi's granny--[[User:Joekeybladeaura|Joekeybladeaura]] 16:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
:WTF. That's farfetched. She was merely a character to tell a story, and has no importance whatsoever. (At least so far) --Zack fair 007 16:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

{{Joekeybladeaura|text=well it was just a theroy you don't have to be mean *sad*}}

Kairi's grandmother probably became a heartless seeing how when sora and company arrive it's overrun by them.--[[Special:Contributions/74.210.24.180|74.210.24.180]] 03:32, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

Kairi was pretty young in that memory, and that grandma (excuse me if this sounds rude) didn't look like much more than skin and bones. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if she had gone either way by now. Whether or not she is alive, however, you can bet your ass that Kairi will do everything she can to try and find her the minute she sets foot in Radiant Garden should the subject even be hinted at. [[User:Keyblader|Keyblader]] 02:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

==Radiant Garden==

when do they say or something tht kairi's from radiant garden????

In the memory she shows to Sora, she is seen as a little girl listening to her grandma's stories ''in the library of Hollow Bastion's castle.'' Hollow Bastion was later renamed Radiant Garden, a name it takes on after your second visit to Space Paranoids. [[User:Keyblader|Keyblader]] 00:23, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

It's also mentioned by ansem the wise in one of the secret ansem reports.--[[Special:Contributions/74.210.24.180|74.210.24.180]] 05:53, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

{{Keyblader|text=Thank you Mr. Anonymous.}}

== Any Help? ==

{{Xion4ever|text= Anyone gonna help with the trivia over-flow? I'm gonna attempt it but I'd like a second opinion..}}

{{Keyblader|text=I'll make an attempt at it.}}

{{Morghman|Y'know, I kinda like trivia overflows, I'm not saying I cause them, I just think trivia can tell you a lot about someone, but if it's absolutely nothing to do with Kingdom Hearts, then I agree it should be deleted.}}

== Her Age In KH2 ==

{{Flashpenny | Are you sure she's just 15? Because honestly I thought she was 18 or something when I played the game. She looks a lot taller than she did in KH1, a growth spurt that cannot be accomplished in a year (the laws of physics dictate it and that's one law you cannot break).}}

{{JudgmentDay95|text=Oh, come on. Do you think Squeenix gives a fudge about the laws of physics? Plus, people grow at different rates.}}

{{Flashpenny | She grew about 3 feet. But still you do have a good point.}}

You may recall that Sora was a head shorter than Goofy in KH1. in KH2, he is a head taller than Goofy. Compare Kairi's height in KH1 to Sora's height in KH1. Now compare Kairi's height in KH2 to Sora's height in KH2. From there, you can gain a rough estimate of the difference in Kairi's height. As for age, that should be easy to determine, considering that only one year passed between KH1 and KH2 (or to be more specific, the first 358 days of Roxas' existance, plus the 6 days that he spent in the virtual Twilight Town; 364 days in total, give or take a few hours). [[User:Xeno the Hedgehog|Xeno the Hedgehog]] 20:18, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

{{Keyblader|text=You can also gain a rough estimate on what her growth is by looking at the difference in her height from Sora's daydream in Halloween Town and when they reunite in the World That Never was. She obviously gained about her own head in height, and Flashpenny is right, that kind of growth spurt doesn't happen in a year - IN REAL LIFE. JudgementDay has the fact correct that not all the laws of physics apply to this game world. For example, during KH1, if you used the spell Thunder in Atlantica, the water should have shocked everything in the water to oblivion, including the one casting it and his allies, yet in the game, it only targets the enemy as intended. This is called a fantasy game for a reason, people. (JudgementDay, I don't mean that in your direction.)}}
{{Firaga44|text=true i think water conducts electricy meaning a thunder with electocute a lot of merpeople but in video games sometimes the laws of physic or laws of matter or anything like that are bent}}
{{KrytenKoro|Saltwater would be an extremely good conductor of electricity, but it's still only going to go to the closest static sink. The whole trope is an exaggeration of the toaster in a tub bit, which only works because ''you'' are the static sink closest to the toaster. If you had something between you and the toaster, you'd be fine, generally.}}
{{JudgmentDay95|time=16:25, 21 August 2009 (UTC)|text=While we're on the subject of physics being broken, here's something else that shouldn't happen: Fire working in Atlantica. Fire. Working underwater. Fire, people!! If you know someone who can make fire burn underwater, I want their name so I can give them a Nobel Prize award.

Also, by the laws of physics, Blizzard shouldn't work as well, since ice melts quickly when exposed to water. Then again, since ice IS water, the amount of damage done, if any, would be minimal.

Square Enix-Destroying physics since 1987!}}

{{Joekeybladeaura|text=and not to for get when kairi jumped off a like 7ft balcony she would have died}}
{{Template:Ventus|time=[[User:Ventusfan66|Ventusfan66]] 15:41, 25 August 2009 (UTC)|text=and let's not forgot the time sora fell through the roof he was only dazed a normal human would be hurt pretty badly}}

{{Flashpenny | Or the fact that Zexion and Lexaeus are featured in Jiminy's Journal in KH2 despite the fact that Sora never met or heard of them.}}

Or the fact that they can use magic, glide around, have feet the size of their heads, turn into heartless, USE MAGIC, and be slashed by monster talons and never show any signs of permanant damage. It's a videogame people!

== About that last triva sentence... ==

Is that really appropriate on a informational site for a E rated game?

:Hellz no! If you see it again please delete it, it's vandalism. Thanks for noticing ^^ --{{User:Yer mom/Sig}} 06:00, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
:sigh* how many times will we have to delete that? '''<font face=Trebuchet MS color=indigo>—</font>[[User:Ghostboy3000|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=darkmagenta>Ghost</font>]][[User talk:Ghostboy3000|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=mediumvioletred>boy</font>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Ghostboy3000|<font face=Trebuchet MS color=deeppink>3000</font>]]</sup>''' 09:36, November 1, 2009 (UTC)