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| I dont think heartless are corrupted hearts.I mean they´re called Heartless so they cant have a heart. | | I dont think heartless are corrupted hearts.I mean they´re called Heartless so they cant have a heart. |
| [[User:Summon:WALL•E|Summon:WALL•E]] 05:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC) | | [[User:Summon:WALL•E|Summon:WALL•E]] 05:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC) |
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| Well, actually it isn't that heartless have no hearts, it's that the heartless is a heart in which the essence of darkness within the heart has overpowered the light and taken over control. In essence, a heartless is a heart in which the balance of light and dark has shifted in favour of the darkness and the light loses its control. That is why when a heartless is killed by a keyblade, the darkness releases its grip and the heart is then freed and returns to Kingdom Hearts as seen in KHII.
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| Hey, do you think we should add something about the art of heart release? I find it to be mildly confusing while some find it completely confusing. From what I know, hearts are only released by the keyblade. The thing is, I saw some cutscene clips that involved Cloud and Sephiroth "killing" heartless, and hearts came out. Would that mean that the hearts are released? Or would they become heartless again, like Marluxia said in 358/2 days? Or is it possible that only Nobodies cannot release hearts with their weapons? Maybe anybody with a heart and a weapon (w/ a weapon, because when the Beast killed the neoshadows in 358/2, they didnt have a heart appear) can release them?--[[User:RyuuseiSoul|RyuuseiSoul]] 23:28, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
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| == Heart Collection ==
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| {{EO|time=12:32, November 29, 2009 (UTC)|talktext=I've added a section detailing Heart Collection from ''Days'' to ''KHII''. I'm not sure, however, if we should make any mention in the section about any hearts released in ''CoM'' or ''KH1''...}}
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| {{TNE|time=12:52, November 29, 2009 (UTC)|text=We can actually mention it, but since not much is said about how hearts are collected and who collects hearts, we can mention it in brief. In ''Chain'' I don't think anything's mentioned about this, for that matter. So the best would be KH1. Sora witnesses first-hand how hearts are consumed by darkness, and we also notice that everytime a boss is defeated, there's a heart released. Where this goes to, there's no mention.}}
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| {{EO|time=13:01, November 29, 2009 (UTC)|talktext=Well, one could assume that they went to the true Kingdom Hearts. It was at the end when all Emblem bosses were defeated that Roxas was born. After that point, the only things left were Chernabog and Ansem. It seems unreasonable that Xemnas could get these hearts, and in CoM, hearts ARE released, but only by the memory Heartless so I guess that makes them false hearts. In terms of storyline, Roxas was collecting hearts in the true world while Sora fought in Castle Oblivion.}}
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| {{TNE|time=13:04, November 29, 2009 (UTC)|text=So I suppose that the hearts went to the artificial KH once Roxas was born ?}}
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| {{EO|time=13:07, November 29, 2009 (UTC)|text=Well no... he was welcomed and his training began at that point, as the CoM members were still alive. So he was collecting in ''KH1'' up until their scripted death mentions in ''Days''.}}
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| ==Missing Sections==
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| {{EO|time=13:07, November 29, 2009 (UTC)|talktext=I think we should make mention of the legend of the heart and the worlds, as well as Ansem's research. Objections?}}
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| {{TNE|time=13:13, November 29, 2009 (UTC)|text=None, because I did exactly the same thing on KHFR. Unless we speak of this in the Heartless article...}}
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| {{EO|time=17:18, November 29, 2009 (UTC)|text=Okay. It's all done. Thanks. I hope my work is satisfactory. I wasn't sure what I added was Heading-worthy, so this is all sub-headings.}}
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| ==Heart Release + Connection to Memory==
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| How/where could/would we phrase this? The heart IS connected to memory, hence Castle Oblivion and all that memory/emotion junk. As for heart release, Keyblade wielders are the only ones who can release hearts...yet non-Keyblade wielders like the other Org. members, Sephiroth, and others can cause hearts to appear as well. - [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 17:57, November 29, 2009 (UTC)
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| :As far as I know, the heart is connected to memory, no doubt. Even though non-Keyblade wielders can cause hearts to appear, these hearts soon form other Heartless. As for Keyblade wielders, the hearts go straight up to Kingdom Hearts. See the difference now ? '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#00BFFF">Pour Noël je te donnerai</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#C0C0C0">le battement de mon cœur… ♥ </font>]]'''</sub> 00:06, November 30, 2009 (UTC)
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| == Birth by Sleep ==
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| {{EO|time=05:48, February 19, 2010 (UTC)|text=So ''Birth by Sleep'' has made this "fun", for lack of a better word. I have added what little connection to the heart there is for the Unversed, and wanted to add something about how a heart can join with another, as seen with Terra and Xehanort, Terra and Master Eraqus, and Sora and Ventus. I'm just not sure how. A little help, please?}}
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| {{TNE|time=10:58, February 19, 2010 (UTC)|text=Lemme think... If I write it in the style of the article, it should be...
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| Eh, I thought there already was a paragraph on it ? It reads :
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| ''Hearts are also able to merge with others or be split, as seen when both Master Xehanort and Master Eraqus join hearts with Terra, and when Ventus's heart merges with Sora's. A much later instance of this would be Kairi's heart merging with Sora's during his first journey. They can be split to produce an embodiment of either the light or the darkness, as seen when Master Xehanort produces Vanitas by unlocking the darkness of Ventus's heart. Hearts can also be merged to create unique Keyblades, major examples being the X-Blade and the Keyblade of Peoples' Hearts. These Keyblades ultimately grant access to Kingdom Hearts, the grandest of hearts, itself.''
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| {{EO|time=15:36, February 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yeah... I sorta wrote that thinking I wouldn't get a response to this post >_>}}
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| == An actual Heart ==
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| A thing that bugs me that I think is never said in the series is that do charactars in the KH universe have normal blood pumping organ hearts, does anyone have an answer?[[User:Avatar symbiote|Avatar symbiote]] 13:27, January 21, 2011 (UTC)Avatar symbiote
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| :Hearts in the KH universe aren't as physical as they are spiritual or symbolic. The actual organ, I'd say everyone but the Heartless and Unversed has. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 15:23, January 21, 2011 (UTC)
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| == Xemnas ==
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| If I recall correctly, the interview in question states something like "we don't know whether Xemnas can wield a Keyblade, only that he didn't."{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 19:45, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
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| [http://www.khinsider.com/news/Birth-by-Sleep-Plot-Mysteries-Interview-1364 Found it!]. Nomura-sensei said, "I'd rather that point remain a mystery. It's possible that he intentionally wasn't using one." The implication is there, but it's still not completely confirmed.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 04:24, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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| ==Sentence Change==
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| Shouldn't the sentence: "Hearts either become trapped in monstrous shells, as in the case of Emblem Heartless, or physically shattered and rearranged to create those monsters, as with Pureblood Heartless" be changed? (This sentence is in the "When a Heart is Broken" section btw). Pureblood Heartless are born from the darkness in people's hearts, not shattered and rearranged hearts. --[[User:Elfdemon|Elfdemon]] ([[User talk:Elfdemon|talk]]) 08:44, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
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| :Really, this [http://www.khwiki.com/index.php?title=Heart&diff=601130&oldid=595876 whole edit] needs to be reviewed for whether the citations support it.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:36, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
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| ::Specifically, we need to start listing citations from the scripts and Ultimania to correct this page. Anyone who's interested in helping, do so below. See [[Talk:Heartless]] for an example.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:02, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
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| == Unversed ==
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| "Unlike Heartless and Nobodies (which can be swayed to serve another should their will prove stronger or become unruly in in worlds close to [[Dark World|the darkness]]), Unversed are completely obedient to their master as they are extensions of Vantias himself. Because of such, the Unversed lack any interst in hearts themselves, but are drawn to strong sources of negativity and [[Princesses of Heart|pure lights]]."
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| What about the Spirit of the Magic Mirror?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 12:30, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
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| == Vanitas ==
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| ''Hearts can regrow entirely new bodies for themselves to inhabit as long as they have a medium to help rebuild their body and someone who has memories of them. The medium can be of different things as shown with Sora, who used Kairi's heart; Master of Masters, who used the Keyblade No Name, '''and Vanitas, who used Ventus's body.'''
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| What's the context for this? As in, when was it stated Vanitas grew a new body? Or is this talking about his formation in the first place? --[[File:Riku Sprite KHD.png]] [[User:Mikoto|mikoto]] 04:33, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
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| :If it is about his creation, there wouldn't be anyone with memories of him, right? I think it's best to remove it unless someone can provide a source. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:48, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
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