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:::...yeah, we know what honorifics are, that's why we've been discussing them. "Madam" is an English honorific, and a translation that just drops honorifics loses a ''lot'' of relevant meaning, especially when English ''does'' usually have analogues—for example, a translation that just translates "Akira-san" as "Akira" instead of "Mr. Akira" will have a much different tone. Sometimes that tone isn't necessary, but when you're dealing with language that emphasizes the honorific, as with -sama, it's pretty relevant. We prefer to omit titles except when they are a critical part of the character's given name, so that's why Eraqus's page is titled that way (and granted, the same rule would function for Ava), but "Madame Ava" is still an accurate translation.
:::...yeah, we know what honorifics are, that's why we've been discussing them. "Madam" is an English honorific, and a translation that just drops honorifics loses a ''lot'' of relevant meaning, especially when English ''does'' usually have analogues—for example, a translation that just translates "Akira-san" as "Akira" instead of "Mr. Akira" will have a much different tone. Sometimes that tone isn't necessary, but when you're dealing with language that emphasizes the honorific, as with -sama, it's pretty relevant. We prefer to omit titles except when they are a critical part of the character's given name, so that's why Eraqus's page is titled that way (and granted, the same rule would function for Ava), but "Madame Ava" is still an accurate translation.
:::Not it's not.  Too vague, too many possibilities.  It's accurate only because you personally, aesthetically feel it is when something like "Lady Ava" is ''just'' as accurate.  It's shit like this that needs to be cleaned up from this wiki - things that you ''personally, individually'' feel need to be implemented when they really, really don't.  --[[User:Webber22|Webber22]] ([[User talk:Webber22|talk]]) 19:13, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
:::Not it's not.  Too vague, too many possibilities.  It's accurate only because you personally, aesthetically feel it is when something like "Lady Ava" is ''just'' as accurate.  It's shit like this that needs to be cleaned up from this wiki - things that you ''personally, individually'' feel need to be implemented when they really, really don't.  --[[User:Webber22|Webber22]] ([[User talk:Webber22|talk]]) 19:13, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
::::I really don't see why it matters one iota that "Lady Ava" is "just as accurate". We have [[Template:Translation]] for a reason -- nobody is claiming that the article title is the official English name, or even the final Japanese name. For subjects like this (or Foreteller's Keyblades, or a host of others), we gave the page article a title because MediaWiki software doesn't let you create an article without one. We post a disclaimer so that readers don't get confused about the canonicity of the title (unless they are ''trying'' to get confused just to bitch at us). Nowhere in that process are we making a claim that "Madam Ava/Foreteller's Keyblades/etc. is the one true name for this subject and all else is false!"{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:16, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
:::In any case, we now have a formal name for the character, "Foreteller Ava".{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:20, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
:::In any case, we now have a formal name for the character, "Foreteller Ava".{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:20, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
::::That works.  It's correct, to the point, and specific to the character.  --[[User:Webber22|Webber22]] ([[User talk:Webber22|talk]]) 19:13, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
::::That works.  It's correct, to the point, and specific to the character.  --[[User:Webber22|Webber22]] ([[User talk:Webber22|talk]]) 19:13, 2 October 2015 (UTC)

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