Editing Talk:Chernabog

==The Video stays==

Azul need not get huffy with me for not including the video of Chernabog that was once there when I tried to repair the damage done by some noob ghost.

Besides, I don't know why the video needs to be in the info box when it can be in a subsection instead.
[[User:BamaSebastian|BamaSebastian]] 15:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

== Is he a Heartless or a living Character? ==

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|text= OK, I really want to figure this out once and for all. Is Chernabog a Heartless or not? If he was, wouldn't he be in the category of a pure blood 'cues he doesn't have an emblem (unlike the rest of the Heartless in that world.)
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{{MM841|11:07, 12 July 2009 (UTC)|He is the demonic denizen of Bald Mountain, not a heartless, that is why he has the character boss template instead of the hearless boss template.}}

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|text= Oh, that makes sence. One last thing though, and this is more of a pet peeve, I don't like how the game killed him. I guess I just wanted to see more of a story around him is all. It was a kinds bitter sweet battle I say.
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{{Xaity|blah=Why don't you use your template?!}}

{{Flashpenny | Personally I think he was Ansem's bodyguard or something. That seems like a short and to the point story.}}
{{ghostboy3000|text= he is for fansatia who ever wrote this section mysteruosu person :D}}

{{Xaity|happy=I think he's both-Like [[Xehanort's Heartless]]}}

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|text= But Xehanort's Heartless was a Heartless that was humanoid. And we already now who his body guard was when we fought him in the boss battles. If he was his body guard, he would look more like the Guardian thing on his back. Also, I know he is from fantasia, I own both movies. And to the second person who posted before this one, I was the one who made the question thing that you posted on. answer you question? Yet it still doesn't answer mine. go figure.
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{{Bananaphone|time=05:41, July 3, 2010 (UTC)|text=I think there were a number of reasons Chernabog attacks.  Either:
*1 He is a bodyguard to Ansem.
*2 He appeared to be asleep or something, and Sora woke him up.
*3 He is terrortorial and Evil Ground was his property, so attacked who he saw as tresspassers.
*He's Chernabog. He's the friggin devil He attacked become he is a straight up evil monser. 'Nuff said.}}

Well, now that the game has introduced the concept of "True" Darkness, and that these Darknesses were once people that gave their humanity up to become what they are but they would what remains of it's humanity as wellc becoming into the beings of Darkness now known as Heartless, it's safe to say that Chernabog himself was once a True Darkness unrelated to the 13 ones from Union X, and after sometime between the games, it's somehow ended up at the Bald Mountain. Since that world was different yet it's had a Dark aura around it, the True Darkness has adapted into it to become more like the Black God that we know about today. It's also would make sense considering what we know about them, as one thing TvTroupes tells about them:
It can apparently shapeshift/disguise itself, or at least put on some sort of glamour. As Darkness and Ventus leave the abandoned house after killing Strelitzia, when the entity steps out of the shadow and into the light it instantly takes on Master Ava's form. Likewise in Kingdom Hearts III Re Mind, assuming it's not merely a monster that's created and summoned by Darkness, it (or something using the same alias) takes on the form of a Dark Inferno χ Heartless when it does battle with Sora.
It could at least tell us that Chernabog was once a True Darkness that was casted into the Bald Mountain, and due to the exposture to the darkness, it's managed to shape itself as the Devil of Darkness that the residents fear, and in order to still and try to keep what remains of it's consciousness and sapience, it's begans summoning the spirits of the dead from that world and even call and mold it's own minions of darkness, the devils and imps of the place to have a way of interaction.
Plus, it also works since according to Union x again (more specifically of the Tvtroupes page:The Keyblade War wiped a lot of them out, leaving only thirteen separate self-aware beings of darkness left. Seven of them are currently in the Foretellers. One is sealed within Ventus and another one was last seen with Luxu in the real Daybreak Town, while the remaining four are trapped inside the data cables leading to the Game Central Station. Even worse, it's revealed that they used to be physical beings but cast off their flesh in order to defeat the light. Not only are only six individuals left, but they are implied to be slowly losing their sense of self as well. Even if they survive they'll likely devolve into mindless monsters with time.
It could meant that they were more True Darkness before the Keyblade War wiped them out, and maybe one of them that was separated from the main thirtheen was infact the one that could have become Chernabog. {{unsigned|Luis Arturo}}

== Slavic...? =_= ==

I don't know how to put this...but "Chernabog" is not "black god" in Slavic.  That'd be "Crni Bog".  "Cherna" is....aherm...how do I put this... =_=  It's a Rakija distiller. =/  You know...moonshining apparatus.  So uh...now that you guys know that...um...use the knowledge to the advantage of the article.  ...Whatever the hell ''that'' may be...--[[User:NeutraVega|NeutraVega]] 03:49, December 30, 2009 (UTC)

== Name? ==

What proof is there that his name is Chernabog? He was left unnamed in both Kingdom Hearts and Fantasia, and walkthrough sites just call him the winged demon. ([[User:Bananaphone1996|Bananaphone1996]] 04:31, April 29, 2010 (UTC))
:The official strategy guide addresses the boss as Chernabog. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 05:06, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

{{Givox|text=They never address it in Kingdom Hearts, but in Disney lore, It's known that his name is Chernabog}}

== Huh? ==

How come you can fly in this battle. Peter Pan isn't there.([[User:Bananaphone1996|Bananaphone1996]] 02:35, June 12, 2010 (UTC))
:Not sure. Maybe similar to how you can fly while fighting the [[World of Chaos]]? Keep in mind Sora has two glide abilities by now in ''Kingdom Hearts''. To continue, if Sora and company weren't able to fly in this battle, they'd fall down a black, bottomless pit.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 02:47, June 12, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, so how come he can fly in the world of chaos?([[Special:Contributions/222.155.77.223|222.155.77.223]] 03:03, June 12, 2010 (UTC))

Because pixie dust works if you believe?[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 14:21, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

== Theme ==

I can upload the file for Night on the Bald Mountain, but where should it go, and in what template?  --<span style="font-size:10pt">[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-size=12pt; font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']]</span> 02:58, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

== Final Boss ==

This is from TV Tropes from someone who says it came from a BBS artbook, so not sure how truthful it is. Apparently, Chernabog was meant to be the final boss of the original game, the embodiment of all darkness and evil, and the final dungeon would have taken place on Bald Moutain, with the light of Kingdom Hearts destroying Chernabog in the same way the light of dawn drove him back in Fantasia. This obviously didn't happen, but they left him in to use as a boss anyway. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Doreiku]] [[User talk:Drake Clawfang|Kuroofangu]] 14:18, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, if you can get a legitimate source you could put that in either as a small section or in the Trivia section. --{{User:JFHavoc/Sig}} 14:23, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
:Wish I did, I'd definitely add it, but the guy who mentioned it on Tropes just said "found this in a BBS artbook". *shrug*. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Doreiku]] [[User talk:Drake Clawfang|Kuroofangu]] 14:26, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

== Theme file ==
So by theme file, do you mean the song that plays during his battle? Because I can upload that right now. '''''<font face="segoe ui">[[User:Erry|<span style="color:indigo;">Er</span>]][[User talk:Erry|<span style="color:dimgray;">ry</span>]]</font>''''' 08:24, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

== Um... ==

{{ParadiseFusion15 2|text= Doen't Chernabog appear in Roxas's dreams?}}
:Does he? If so, just link to the video.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 01:55, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
{{ParadiseFusion15 2|text= http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiVdmVPNccs Around 7:24 he appears.}}
:Go ahead and add it, then.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 02:02, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

== KH3D stats ==

Since Chernabog is fought like in Dive Mode, he doesn't have stats like the other bosses but only a max HP stat (600) and damage stats for each attack. [http://kh13.com/forum/gallery/sizes/19094-kh3d-ultimania-386/large/ Here's a scan.] How should we cover this? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:41, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
:As a Dive enemy, I guess.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 18:44, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
::But we don't have a way to display those stats, either. In fact, I can't find any stats of the Dive bosses in the Ultimania. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:47, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

== Fiends ==

KHUx just put a medal in that's based on the things that attack you in Chernabog's DDD boss fight. So I changed the paragraph to reflect their official name. {{unsigned|24.247.245.222}}

The original Japanese 3DS version has a journal entry for the Fiends. [[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] ([[User talk:Kingdom210|talk]]) 18:06, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
:About the Fiends…I just noticed that their infobox being on this page messes up the way Chernobog shows up in categories such as [[:Category:Entelechies]] (he shows up under "F"; might also apply to other categories, I didn't try them all). I'm not active enough to suggest a fix, but I just thought I'd raise the issue since it's not a trivial fix. [[User:-Alarielle-|-Alarielle-]] ([[User talk:-Alarielle-|talk]]) 19:45, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
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 The original Japanese 3DS version has a journal entry for the Fiends. [[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] ([[User talk:Kingdom210|talk]]) 18:06, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
-:About the Fiends…I just noticed that their infobox being on this page messes up the way Chernobog shows up in categories such as [[:Category:Entelechy]] (he shows up under "F"; might also apply to other categories, I didn't try them all). I'm not active enough to suggest a fix, but I just thought I'd raise the issue since it's not a trivial fix. [[User:-Alarielle-|-Alarielle-]] ([[User talk:-Alarielle-|talk]]) 19:45, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
+:About the Fiends…I just noticed that their infobox being on this page messes up the way Chernobog shows up in categories such as [[:Category:Entelechies]] (he shows up under "F"; might also apply to other categories, I didn't try them all). I'm not active enough to suggest a fix, but I just thought I'd raise the issue since it's not a trivial fix. [[User:-Alarielle-|-Alarielle-]] ([[User talk:-Alarielle-|talk]]) 19:45, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
-::I changed the templates so the pages get categorized by page name, rather than the name from the infobox, as that causes issues like this when there's multiple infoboxes on the same page. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 16:51, 10 August 2023 (UTC)