Editing Talk:Chambers of Repose and Waking

Which brings me back to the same age-old question : Are Xehanort and Xemnas actually Terra ? '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 04:41, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
:I always wondered that. :o --[[User:Super Sword-chucks|<font color="A9ACB6">'''天下'''</font>]][[User Talk: Super Sword-chucks|<font color="#6F7285">'''無双'''</font>]][[User:Super Sword-chucks/Userpage+|<font color="black">'''！！'''</font>]] 04:44, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
Y'know, sometimes the evidence is just right there in front of our eyes, but we tend to overlook it. Like DiZ and Ansem the Wise. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 04:50, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but Nomura already said that everybody from the video "The Gathering" was new to the series[http://www.kh2.co.uk/?page=NI/KH2U] so  Terra can't be Xehanort unless Nomura lied--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 00:39, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

This needs to be rename to the Chamber of Repose. I don't know how to do that.--[[User:NinjaSheik|NinjaSheik]] 04:52, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
:Done. Next time, use the Move button on the taskbar. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 05:17, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

That's how you change the name?--[[User:NinjaSheik|NinjaSheik]] 05:19, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
:Yes. However, only admins can move '''files'''. (Mods can't !) The rest of us can move '''article titles'''. If there's a motion to move a file name, then the best place to go to is BebopKate's talk page. Or Kryten's. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 05:24, September 27, 2009 (UTC)


I see. Can you do my a favor and to to the talk page of Castle Oblivion? Go to the very bottom and you'll see. Good night.--[[User:NinjaSheik|NinjaSheik]] 05:25, September 27, 2009 (UTC)

Do the rooms have anything in them besides the armor/s--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 00:42, October 8, 2009 (UTC)
:That is what we need to find out in the first place. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 00:51, October 8, 2009 (UTC)

== Split ==

{{NitrousX|text=Shouldn't the Chamber of Repose and the Chamber of Waking have seperate articles, since they're seperate places?}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Not really. The info on both isn't very long, so it'll just a waste of space.}}
{{NitrousX|text=Hmm... I can't say I agree with your decision but maybe they'll get seperate pages as more info comes out.}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Perhaps.}}
{{Template:ST|time=01:01, October 27, 2009 (UTC)|text=Then at least change the name of the article at least. Why name the article after one of the rooms when it's about both of them. Kinda misleading.}}
{{NinjaSheik|text=Good point.}}
{{NitrousX|text=So, how about changing it to "Chamber of Repose/Chamber of Waking"?}}
{{EO|time=13:13, October 31, 2009 (UTC)|text=Yes. And then we should tab it, or ask Kryten to do so, so we can have separate info on each Chamber on the same page, but separate. Everyone gets along this way.}}
{{NitrousX|text=Great idea, ENX! So, when's this going to happen?}}
:Using slashes in page titles causes weird stuff ("Chamber of Repose/Chamber of Waking" would be a subpage of "Chamber of Repose" named "Chamber of Waking"), I'm gonna move it to "Chambers of Repose and Waking".—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 21:53, November 8, 2009 (UTC)

{{NitrousX|text=Thanks, Urutapu!}}

== Where Riku woke up ==

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|text=I love the suggestion that the Room of Waking may be the place where Riku began his journey through Castle Oblivion. Wouldn't it be hilarious? He'd have "found" what Xemnas so desperately seeks and neither party would know a damn thing about it! Besides, he woke up there, so it's wonderfully appropriate too.
|category=Love it!
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{{Template:ST|time=00:57, October 27, 2009 (UTC)|text=Kinda bright for a realm of '''darkness''',don't you think}}

kinda looked like it was the Realm of Nothingness to me.--[[User:Soul reaper magnum|Soul reaper magnum]] 10:13, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

== ?? ==

I don't get it? I though the article is called Chamber of Sleep and Chamber of Awakening. Why is it called Chamber of Response and Chamber of Waking? Chamber of Response and Chamber of Waking dosen't make sense. Why don't you call it Chamber of Sleep and Chamber of Awakening when it make sense? 
-Cococrash11

First, it's called Chamber of Repose, which means sleep. Chamber of Waking and the Chamber of Repose is the English dub name for it. It was perviously called the Room of Slep and the Room if Awakening until 358/2 Days came out and confirmed its English titles.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 02:45, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

== A Possibility ==

{{Maggosh|text=Here's a thought I just had. The CoR and CoW are opposites, right? One is for sleep, one is for awakening. So if the Chamber of Repose is in the basement of Hollow Bastion, and the Chamber of Waking is in Castle Oblivion (possibly), then wouldn't it be reasonable for the CoW to be on the 13th Floor of C.O., on the very top?}}

{{TFO|time=20:46, September 13, 2009 (UTC)|Namine=I suppose that makes sense. I would completely agree with you but if its where Riku awoke there you would think it would be on the ground floor of Castle Oblivion or a basement floor. I had never heard about these rooms before today. I find it a little disturbing. I mean if Xemnas really is Terra then I'll feel bad for him. I mean seeing the armor and how he still talked to it makes me want to cry a little. It's sad but sweet. I never connected Xemnas's armor to BBS before. I feel thick. Final Mix need to come out in America really bad. I mean we are missing obviously important stuff here. Did Xemnas really see Xion as Ven? I thought it just was Ven but that seems unlikely. It's almost impossible that he isn't connected to Roxas is some way. I wish these were all English novels too. I would keep my head around it so much better. sigh.}}

== Better Pic ==
Does anyone have a better pic of the chamber of repose?--[[User:Masgrande|Masgrande]] 09:10, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

I agree, one that has the walls in it. Maybe when Xemnas is first sitting down?

Possibly, but it only shows him, not the rest of the room...--[[User:Lord Captain Cecil Harvey|Lord Captain Cecil Harvey]] 01:32, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

== Chamber of Waking image ==

{{R&D|time=02:07, January 5, 2010 (UTC)|text=I think that image should be removed sice we do not know if it realy is the Chamber of Waking. It has Sora in his KHII clothes sleeping inside and not Ven. Sora was never on that room in KHII and we don't know if he will go there in a future game.}}
{{Maggosh|text=[[File:Ven cow possible.png]]
Looks like Ven to me; his left sleeve's white and his hair is blond.
Besides that, it's on the page because of its striking similarities to the Chamber of Repose.}}

{{R&D|time=15:29, January 5, 2010 (UTC)|text=Now I've noticed it. I guess my eyes were tricking me, sorry. But I wonder why it has master eraqus symbol in it. Maybe it was built by the him or the three aprentices.}}

{{KHRulez|time=23:46, June 21, 2010 (UTC)|text=Hey R&D it has Master Eraqus symbol on it because that was actually Master Eraqu's throne room in the Land of Departure and Aqua turned the Land of Departure into Castle Oblivion with Eraqu's Keyblade and that's why Ven is sleeping on a throne.}}

== Split (cont) ==

{{NitrousX|text=I think that now that we have BBS info on the chamber of waking, that we should split the article or at least tab it. The infobox also only features the chamber of repose.}}

{{Masgrande|time=19:55, February 2, 2010 (UTC)|text=The article barely focuses on the chamber of waking, this really should be called chamber of repose and chamber of waking should have it's own separate article}}

{{NitrousX|text=I already suggested that. No one went for it. So I think a tab is definitely needed.

EDIT: Helloo?? I'd do it myself, but I don't know how!}}

<big><big><big><big><big><big><big>DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW TO TAB????</big></big></big></big></big></big></big>--[[User:Nitrous X|Nitrous X]] 14:12, April 3, 2010 (UTC)
{{LevL|time=14:35, April 3, 2010 (UTC)|text=I tried to tab the infobox, but for some reason it doesn't work.}}
{{NitrousX|text=Drat. Thanks for trying, LevL.}}

== Characters ==

I don't get why there's an article with the characters that appear in the chamber. It's just out of place. [[User:The Yoshiman 97|The Yoshiman 97]] 03:02, March 20, 2010 (UTC)

== Chamber of Waking? ==

{{LA|Vtext=Is there any proof besides common sense that the Chamber of Waking is the Room Aqua put Ventus into? If there is, it should probably be on the article.}}
I don't think we have any technically explicit proof, unless it came up in some interview I don't remember.  --<span style="font-size:10pt">[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-size=12pt; font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']]</span> 05:37, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
::If I remember correctly, Nomura said in the Ultimania that Xemnas has the Organization looking for the Chamber of Waking because Terra's memories indicate that that is where Aqua would have put Ventus.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 06:12, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

== cutscene ==

Does anyone remember when the cutscene showing the Chamber of Repose was played in KH2FM? (not counting theater mode)  --<span style="font-size:10pt">[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-size=12pt; font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']]</span> 06:24, June 17, 2010 (UTC)
:I think it was some time during the Battle of 1000 Heartless. --{{User:LegoAlchemist/Sig}} 19:21, June 17, 2010 (UTC)

== Betterpic ==

{{LA|Vtext=I mean, I guess there's nothing wrong with the Armor pic we have, but I screenprinted a pic of the Chamber of Repose, that shows more of the Room.

[[File:ChamberofRepose.png|200px]]}}


{{KHRulez|time=23:23, June 21, 2010 (UTC)|text=During the cutscene where Xigbar speaks to Zexion i think Xigbar said that while he was eavesdropping he heard two voices in the room of sleep and in there was only Xemnas and Aqua's armor. So is it possible that Aqua's armor can talk?}}

== Accessability ==

{{ErryTalk|text=Is the room casually accessible or is it only-cutscene? Because I bought KH2FM+ a few days ago and now I wanna know if it's possible to access it like any other place.}}
{{ShardofTruth|time=18:05, July 9, 2010 (UTC)|talk=Good question. It's not accessible during normal gameplay and if the room is in the game files you still need a room mod code to get in there. The guys [http://www.kh-vids.net/showthread.php?p=2876113 over here] can help you with that.<br>
EDIT: The specific code is:<br>
D034D45C 0000FDFF<br>
2032BAE0 00001B04<br>
While holding R2 just leave a room. It doesn't seem to work with pcsx2 though, because it results always in a crash.}}

{{ErryTalk|text=Now that you've made that clear, plus the fact I don't have a cheat-machine-thing, how do you trigger the cutscene?}}

Hmmm...i may be that the 2 chambers hold some power other than Ventus.

The cutscene occurs near the beginning of the Battle of 1000 Heartless, before fighting Demyx.  --<span style="font-size:10pt">[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-size=12pt; font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']]</span> 23:51, July 9, 2010 (UTC)
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 Which brings me back to the same age-old question : Are Xehanort and Xemnas actually Terra ? '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="black">TNÉ</font>]]''' <sub>'''[[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#1E90FF">En avant</font>]] [[User:Troisnyxetienne/Mensa|<font color="#00BFFF ">Bravo !</font>]]'''</sub> 04:41, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
 :I always wondered that. :o --[[User:Super Sword-chucks|<font color="A9ACB6">'''天下'''</font>]][[User Talk: Super Sword-chucks|<font color="#6F7285">'''無双'''</font>]][[User:Super Sword-chucks/Userpage+|<font color="black">'''！！'''</font>]] 04:44, September 27, 2009 (UTC)
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 -Cococrash11
-First, it's called Chamber of Repose, which means sleep. Chamber of Waking and the Chamber of Repose is the English dub name for it. It was perviously called the Room of Slep and the Room if Awakening until 358/2 Days came out and confirmed its English titles.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 02:45, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
+First, it's called Chamber of Repose, which means sleep. Chamber of Waking and the Chamber of Repose is the English dub name for it. It was perviously called the Room of Slep and the Room if Awakening until 358/2 Days came out and confirmed its English titles.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 02:45, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
 == A Possibility ==
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 {{R&D|time=02:07, January 5, 2010 (UTC)|text=I think that image should be removed sice we do not know if it realy is the Chamber of Waking. It has Sora in his KHII clothes sleeping inside and not Ven. Sora was never on that room in KHII and we don't know if he will go there in a future game.}}
-{{Maggosh|text=[[:File:Chamberofwaking.png]]
+{{Maggosh|text=[[File:Ven cow possible.png]]
 Looks like Ven to me; his left sleeve's white and his hair is blond.
 Besides that, it's on the page because of its striking similarities to the Chamber of Repose.}}
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 {{LA|Vtext=I mean, I guess there's nothing wrong with the Armor pic we have, but I screenprinted a pic of the Chamber of Repose, that shows more of the Room.
-[[File:To the Hidden Stage 01 KHIIFM.png|200px]]}}
+[[File:ChamberofRepose.png|200px]]}}
 {{KHRulez|time=23:23, June 21, 2010 (UTC)|text=During the cutscene where Xigbar speaks to Zexion i think Xigbar said that while he was eavesdropping he heard two voices in the room of sleep and in there was only Xemnas and Aqua's armor. So is it possible that Aqua's armor can talk?}}
-I thought it was translated as that Xigbar heard Xemnas talking to someone  (which is weird since Xemnas is supposed to be by himself), the implication seemed to be that Xemnas is talking to himself.[[Special:Contributions/65.184.80.86|65.184.80.86]] 02:55, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
 == Accessability ==
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 The cutscene occurs near the beginning of the Battle of 1000 Heartless, before fighting Demyx.  --<span style="font-size:10pt">[[User:Neumannz|'''<span style="font-size=12pt; font-family:Gisha; color:#005400">Neumannz</span>''']], [[User talk:Neumannz|''<span style="color:black; font-family:Agency FB Bold">The Dark Falcon</span>'']]</span> 23:51, July 9, 2010 (UTC)
-Any area is accesible if it is the location of an In-engine cutscene.[[Special:Contributions/204.211.185.107|204.211.185.107]] 16:32, September 16, 2010 (UTC)
-== Wait, what? ==
-{{Spoiler}}
-{{Galexgan|time=23:34, July 27, 2010 (UTC)|text= My question is how in the world did Xemnas know what the Chamber of Waking looks like?? He should of never been there, and if he was there as Terra he would of forgotten, but he even modeled the Chamber of Repose to look like the Chamber of Waking.
-By the way, I tagged spoilers just because the Xemnas/Terra thing, though I'm pretty sure everyone who comes to this Wiki now knows the story... But it's just to make sure.}}
-{{Spoilerend}}
-== Memories ==
-Where was it said the rooms restore Xemnas' memories? [[User:Drake Clawfang|Doreiku]] [[User talk:Drake Clawfang|Kuroofangu]] 22:03, September 6, 2010 (UTC)
-== Spoilers for the entire page? ==
-Really guys? I haven't played BBS yet, but as I was just idly browsing by I was given a major spoiler in the first few lines. Don't give me shit about how it says spoiler at the top, instinctively people who don't want spoilers don't read lower than that. The top should only be a brief description without spoilers, the game hasn't even been out for a whole month yet. Fuck guys.
-:So you read below a spoiler warning, find a spoiler, and complain about it....you sir have failed. [[User:Drake Clawfang|Doreiku]] [[User talk:Drake Clawfang|Kuroofangu]] 02:29, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
-::No, we're not going to neuter the wiki because people don't want to read the warnings. The existence of the Chambers is a spoiler in and of itself.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 02:42, September 25, 2010 (UTC)