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==Original Discussion==
I know it looks bare, but I'm about to add images once I'm done expanding.  Ideas for categories would also be appreciated ^_^  '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 00:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
I know it looks bare, but I'm about to add images once I'm done expanding.  Ideas for categories would also be appreciated ^_^  '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 00:10, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
*I think the videos category might actually be a good idea. Do we have articles on Deep Dive and Another Side, Another Story? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:16, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
*I think the videos category might actually be a good idea. Do we have articles on Deep Dive and Another Side, Another Story? -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] 00:16, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
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==Incorrect==
==Incorrect==
I joined specifically to change this: Aqua is not the only one of the three to use magic in the video. Ven shoots lightning at the 'Guardian', forcing it to flee upon the storm of keyblades. I will make edits to accord with this information. [[User:Gandalan|Gandalan]] 04:34, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
I joined specifically to change this: Aqua is not the only one of the three to use magic in the video. Ven shoots lightning at the 'Guardian', forcing it to flee upon the storm of keyblades. I will make edits to accord with this information. [[User:Gandalan|Gandalan]] 04:34, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Ven also uses the Earth spell at the beginning
if you're talking about the rising ground, it's Master Xehanort. And the one that shoots lighning is Aqua [[User:17master|17master]] 09:07, October 17, 2010 (UTC)
Was there really any point to answering something that was written 3 years ago? [[User:BlackSoulBlade|BlackSoulBlade]]
==Weirdness==
In the first trailer that came with the english game, terra's cape is black, ven's is white, and auqa's is blue, plus the hazy figure walking twords them at the end has his arms out next to him, walking normaly, with HUGE bracelets on his wrists...
Then, when the trailer from the KH2FM+ video kicks in all three of the keybalde knights have white capes and the figure walking at them now has his arms crossed behind his back, and, unless they're now invisable, does not have HUGE bracelets on... wtf?  -I do not exist, and therefore, do not need an account.
Not sure if this fits here but does anyone else find it strange how the dark orb in Xeanhort's hand has the pale yellow glow in it? Could it be Ven's heart? Yes Ven is still alive at the end however the pale yellow in the middle and the fact that KINGDOM HEARTS appears when it is cast upward is strange. Also coupled with new trailers it provides insight as to why Ven may want Aqua to "erase" him.
{{No.i|time=17:40, January 29, 2010 (UTC)|text=Hey, does anyone know what that big machine behind terra is? the one that disintegrates, because it was not in the game. also, in the game terra, aqua and ventus never picked up sora, riku and mickey's keyblades, anyone know what it means?}}


== Terra and article split(s) ==
== Terra and article split(s) ==
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Additionally, it's not necessary to have quote marks in a title.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 13:53, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Additionally, it's not necessary to have quote marks in a title.  '''''[[User:Scottch|<span style="color:#00cccc">Scott</span>]][[User talk:Scottch|<span style="color:#ff9900">ch</span>]]''''' 13:53, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
::Even regardless of the official capitilization, "by" should not be capitalized in titles.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>survived intact.</small>]] 06:35, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


== Master Xehanort ==
== Master Xehanort ==
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== Aqua, Terra and Ven = Kairi, Riku and Sora ==
== Aqua, Terra and Ven = Kairi, Riku and Sora ==


Okay, well, I looked at how people are saying "Oh, Terra must be Sora" and all that, and I figured "Sora=Sky Ventus=Air" Doy! Also, think about it: Ven looks like Roxas, which is technically Sora! So, I think that Riku is Terra because Riku=Land Terra=Earth! And Kai=sea Aqua=water. Also, going back to a post a bit down, I think maybe they're right. Maybe, as indicated by the title "Birth by Sleep", they all were adults, and changed back into children by the power of their hearts and sleep. Then, by some event, they were put into Hallow Bastion (Kairi) and Destiny Islands (Sora and Riku) after that, maybe, Kairi came to the Destiny Islands, and Kingdom Hearts 1, CoM, and 2 happened. Now these wonderful new games! Something to speculate on, ne? [[User:HarukaHeart13|HarukaHeart13]] 03:03, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
Okay, well, I looked at how people are saying "Oh, Terra must be Sora" and all that, and I figured "Sora=Sky Ventus=Air" Doy! Also, think about it: Ven looks like Roxas, which is technically Sora! So, I think that Riku is Terra because Riku=Land Terra=Land! And obviously Kairi is Aqua.[[User:HarukaHeart13|HarukaHeart13]] 00:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


I was reading the background history on Kairi, the fact she hailed from Hollow bastion where the original Ansem came from and the fact she was one of the 7 princesses.
I was reading the background history on Kairi, the fact she hailed from Hollow bastion where the original Ansem came from and the fact she was one of the 7 princesses.
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The fact of the history of The keyblade war means keyblades where normal weapons that before Sora could ONLY handle and perhaps the BBS storyline will explain why Sora was the chosen one
The fact of the history of The keyblade war means keyblades where normal weapons that before Sora could ONLY handle and perhaps the BBS storyline will explain why Sora was the chosen one
:I like how you really go out of your way to really really overcomplicate the relationship between the characters, with them being "incarnations" and other farfetched theories. Why not just go really really simple? As in, they are their parents or siblings, which is by far more likely? --[[User:Hecko X|Hecko X]] 21:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
:I like how you really go out of your way to really really overcomplicate the relationship between the characters, with them being "incarnations" and other farfetched theories. Why not just go really really simple? As in, they are their parents or siblings, which is by far more likely? --[[User:Hecko X|Hecko X]] 21:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
Well my speculations is that Sora,Riku and Kiair desendants of Ven,Teraa and Aqua.
....Erm, is this even worth discussing about? Does it even matter? Does anyone actually care?
i care. Like i think Terra is Sora's dad. And that Aqua and Ven or Terra and Aqua are love interests. Now, before this gets deleted, continue this on the actual Kingdom Hearts birth by sleep page. =)
Dood, those guys look a little TOO young to be anyone's parents D: [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 05:48, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
:Haha now its between Terra's the uncle or Aqua got some teenage pregnancy. Good point there =)--Zack fair 007 06:55, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Sean: Not a member. Birth by sleep is a hint (maybe). What if, as Soar is sleeping when his memory is being restored, Ven was aciddently "born".
:So then he goes back in time ten years so he can star in BBS? >_>—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 08:39, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


== COOL ==
== COOL ==
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:wow, pause here, Mickey here is a big turn-off though. but oh well, I'm looking forward for this game.--[[user:NeloAngelo|N/A]]
:wow, pause here, Mickey here is a big turn-off though. but oh well, I'm looking forward for this game.--[[user:NeloAngelo|N/A]]


coded is only for japan sorry :(--[[User:Kingdomheartsfreek|KHF &quot;fight to win&quot;]] 20:27, 10 June 2009 (UTC)


== Vens keyblade ==
== Vens keyblade ==


i would like to mention that vens keyblade isn't the jungle king, the handle is different and it seems to be completly black, there's a picture of it here on the gamplay images subcatergory. ([[User:Myself 123|Myself 123]] 17:13, 20 April 2008 (UTC))
i would like to mention that vens keyblade isn't the jungle king, the handle is different and it seems to be completly black, there's a picture of it here on the gamplay images subcatergory. ([[User:Myself 123|Myself 123]] 17:13, 20 April 2008 (UTC))
I thought "Coded" was on the PS3... Besides, isn't "Birth by Sleep on PS3, Wii, AND PSP?
I think There all at least on PSP or PS3. Ace Shadow 04:54, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
==A theory==
{{Zolo6|text=A funny theroy what if Master Xehanort's apprentice is the Xehanort from Kingdom Hearts I, he forgot everything before Ansem the Wise found him forgeting everything he started thinking he was Xehanort.
Example:like how Cloud thought he was Zack.}}
I may not have a fancy speech bubble but I think this is right, beause when ansem/xhenort/xhenort's heartless/if this theroy is true we still don't know his real name took Riku as his apprentice Riku wore an identical outfit to the "Guardian"
I made that theory NO JOKE check out my [http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/User:Kingdomheartsfreek#Kingdom_Hearts_BBS| home page] all that is in that theory is at my home page.--[[User:Kingdomheartsfreek|KHF &quot;fight to win&quot;]] 20:31, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
== A Note ==
{{oath|text=I don't know if it's notable or not but Xemnas' Nobody King Throne form thing has a similar appearance to the three knights armor.}}
== The Dark Soldier ==
I just wanted to say that the Dark Soldier's keyblade also has a chain.  It's easily seen at 1:05 right after he uses ice and the full chain can be seen at 1:09 when he flips onto the keyblade whirlwind to dodge Aqua's lightning.  [[User:Clayfair255|Clayfair255]] 09:38, 11 June 2008 (UTC)Clayfair255
==Keep it focused, folks...==
I've pulled all the info not directly about the ending movie out.  Let's keep this about the movie only from here on out, and not as a news & info article about the game itself. [[User:BebopKate|BebopKate]] 22:30, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
== Things to note ==
Hi! Not a member. Thinking about joining. Any way, Why does Ven , Terra and Aqua have the same color eyes (blue) till the blue heart appears? Terra's eyes become ember. Plus, is Master Xehanort the original Xehanort? The apprenntice to Ansem rembered nothing of his time before being with Ansem. Is this a coincidence?-Sean, 9:51.
{{Brago-77|time=15:07, September 16, 2009 (UTC)|text=*sighs* Ok, first of all, it's 'amber' not ember. Second, nobody knows the answer to these questions, as there is practically no information on the overall plot at this point}}
== Am I the only one who noticed this? ==
{{Maggosh|text=In The Gathering, TAV pick up a second Keyblade each. In Birth By Sleep, those Keyblades are gone. They are never seen in the video.
Why didn't they use them in their fight against Master Xehanort and Vanitas?}}
== Theory About the Trio's "Keyblades" ==
I don't believe them to be true Keyblades at all. Instead, I believe them to be actual swords made to look like a Keyblade. The fact that they have no keychains supports this theory. Soul Eater is also a sword made to look like a Keyblade, and the Keyblade Of People's Hearts was just incomplete, and most likely would have taken an entirely different form once completed. My theory is that Keyblades start out as simple weapons, like swords or clubs. Then, when the keychain is attached, it draws out the weapon's true potential, turning it into a Keyblade. I think the Soul Eater was turned into Way to the Dawn through this method. Anyone else think this?--[[User:Brain Golem|Brain Golem]] 15:19, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
:The three Keyblades have Keychains, just not in the uncanonical Birth by sleep video.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 18:37, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
Oh... Well in THAT case, that blows my whole theory out of the water... Oh well!--[[User:Brain Golem|Brain Golem]] 23:55, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
== Birth by Sleep Query ==
I think it's much more likely when a user searches for Birth by Sleep, that they are looking for Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep and not this video. We should change the redirect link to point at Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep.
:Just a reminder to use four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) or a custom signature to sign your posts on discussion posts and forums. Now, I feel that the user is right, when you think of Birth by Sleep, you think of ''Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep'', the game, not "Birth by Sleep", the secret video. Good job on redirecting the search query. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 23:08, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
::I believe the redirect leads to the disamb page, right? {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 02:37, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
:::It does now, FM just did that a while after I posted here. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}}02:40, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
== English capitalization ==
It's called "Birth by Sleep" in English now, shouldn't the page be renamed? --[[Special:Contributions/88.74.27.64|88.74.27.64]] 10:34, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
yes, kh2.5 is the new normal[[Special:Contributions/72.12.205.35|72.12.205.35]] 18:50, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
I think so, too. Are there any objections to this before I move it?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:21, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
==Commentary Section Removal==
Is it necessary to have that section anymore? It feels redundant to have it since the secret ending video has been out for years.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 19:26, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

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