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i think there's far too much speculation in the origin section. We should summarize it to a more subtle view[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 03:08, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
i think there's far too much speculation in the origin section. We should summarize it to a more subtle view[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 03:08, October 17, 2009 (UTC)


Agreed.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:21, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
Agreed.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 03:21, October 17, 2009 (UTC)


:Well I know some of the info in there comes from Days, and as I haven't played the game I can't be too sure how much is speculation. Wanna edit it yourself so the speculation is taken out? --{{User:Yer mom/Sig}} 03:22, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
:Well I know some of the info in there comes from Days, and as I haven't played the game I can't be too sure how much is speculation. Wanna edit it yourself so the speculation is taken out? --{{User:Yer mom/Sig}} 03:22, October 17, 2009 (UTC)


Just leave it the way it was for a little.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:38, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
Just leave it the way it was for a little.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 03:38, October 17, 2009 (UTC)


:Hmmm why? --{{User:Yer mom/Sig}} 03:44, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
:Hmmm why? --{{User:Yer mom/Sig}} 03:44, October 17, 2009 (UTC)


Think about it. True, most of this stuff is speculation, but it makes sense, don't you think? We don't know anything about Axel's past besides the fact that his Somebody's name was Lea and he was once friends with Axel. Plus, they both plan to take over the Organization that was stated in Secret Reports.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:48, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
Think about it. True, most of this stuff is speculation, but it makes sense, don't you think? We don't know anything about Axel's past besides the fact that his Somebody's name was Lea and he was once friends with Axel. Plus, they both plan to take over the Organization that was stated in Secret Reports.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 03:48, October 17, 2009 (UTC)


no it doesnt. the origin says Saix changed while axel has stayed the same. in kh2 hardly any interaction did Axel have with Saix. yes they both plannedo n taking over the organization but ultimately gave up. still that's not really "origin". Too detailed and it really doesnt follow "origin".
no it doesnt. the origin says Saix changed while axel has stayed the same. in kh2 hardly any interaction did Axel have with Saix. yes they both plannedo n taking over the organization but ultimately gave up. still that's not really "origin". Too detailed and it really doesnt follow "origin".
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Yeah. We have to be fair, don't we?
Yeah. We have to be fair, don't we?


This is cool~! I knew it! I knew Lea would be here! I hope Saix is there, too, hoprefully being nice.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 02:21, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
This is cool~! I knew it! I knew Lea would be here! I hope Saix is there, too, hoprefully being nice.--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 02:21, December 19, 2009 (UTC)


{{Maggosh|text=I gotta say, I was starting to doubt Lea showing up, but it turns out he will.}}
{{Maggosh|text=I gotta say, I was starting to doubt Lea showing up, but it turns out he will.}}


Shall I go make a page with Lea?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 02:36, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
Shall I go make a page with Lea?--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 02:36, December 19, 2009 (UTC)


{{HarpieSirenTalk|text=It seems that Saix's other will show up too.}}
{{HarpieSirenTalk|text=It seems that Saix's other will show up too.}}


YEP~!--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 02:46, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
YEP~!--'''[[User:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#FBEC5D;">Ninja</span>]][[User talk:NinjaSheik|<span style="color:#87CEFA;">Sheik</span>]]''' 02:46, December 19, 2009 (UTC)


== Origin Pt. II ==
== Origin Pt. II ==
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look up a picture of a chakram it actually has an S shaped handel and its blade is completely round. XD![[User:Durrf9|Durrf9]] 20:13, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
look up a picture of a chakram it actually has an S shaped handel and its blade is completely round. XD![[User:Durrf9|Durrf9]] 20:13, March 1, 2010 (UTC)


Well, that's one of {{w|Xena|Xena's}} chakrams you're talking about. It's just the design of chakram she holds. The reason that you get a lot of pictures of her chakram when you google it is becuase she's just well known for using one. A chakram by definition is just a razor-edged ring or disk, and I don't think it get's more detailed than that. There's no "correct" form of one, just like there is no "correct" form of a sword. A katana doesn't stop being a katana because it has a square guard instead of a circular one, does it?.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 02:09, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
Well, that's one of [[wikipedia:Xena|Xena's]] chakrams you're talking about. It's just the design of chakram she holds. The reason that you get a lot of pictures of her chakram when you google it is becuase she's just well known for using one. A chakram by definition is just a razor-edged ring or disk, and I don't think it get's more detailed than that. There's no "correct" form of one, just like there is no "correct" form of a sword. A katana doesn't stop being a katana because it has a square guard instead of a circular one, does it?.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 02:09, April 6, 2010 (UTC)


==Dual Wielding==
==Dual Wielding==
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Normal Nobodies retained their former memories as a somebody, right? Then is it just me or does he actually forgot Ventus or just didn't notice <s> how strikingly similar </s> that Roxas and Ven has the same face? {{User:17master/Sign}}
Normal Nobodies retained their former memories as a somebody, right? Then is it just me or does he actually forgot Ventus or just didn't notice <s> how strikingly similar </s> that Roxas and Ven has the same face? {{User:17master/Sign}}


Because Roxas and Ven don't have the same face, although they do have the same hairstyle. But I guess he didn't retain enough memories, so much for being known. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 18:41, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
Because Roxas and Ven don't have the same face, although they do have the same hairstyle. But I guess he didn't retain enough memories, so much for being known. {{User:Erry/Sig2}} 18:41, December 6, 2010 (UTC)


Actually, Roxas and Ventus could be identical twins. They have the exact same face. (It's just hard to tell this cause Ventus never looks angry and Roxas never looks happy. But you can kind of see it comparing [[:File:ArmorSummon.png|this]] and [[:File:Roxas-2.jpg|this]].) {{User:Soxra/Sig}} 18:47, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
Actually, Roxas and Ventus could be identical twins. They have the exact same face. (It's just hard to tell this cause Ventus never looks angry and Roxas never looks happy. But you can kind of see it comparing [[:File:ArmorSummon.png|this]] and [[:File:Roxas-2.jpg|this]].) {{User:Soxra/Sig}} 18:47, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
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==Bringing Axel back==
==Bringing Axel back==
During the secret ending of Re: Coded, Yen Sid said that once someone's Heartless and Nobody are destroyed, that their original self is brought back? My theory is that in order for Sora to save Axel, he will have to find and destroy Axel's Heartless. I think I even read an interview somewhere where Nomura said that Axel doesn't say Sora's name with Roxas and Xion in ''Blank Points'' because he will have to be saved in a manner different from everyone else; in a manner similar to Master Xehanort himself. [[User:FFfangirl]] 1:43 p.m., February 7, 2011
During the secret ending of Re: Coded, Yen Sid said that once someone's Heartless and Nobody are destroyed, that their original self is brought back? My theory is that in order for Sora to save Axel, he will have to find and destroy Axel's Heartless. I think I even read an interview somewhere where Nomura said that Axel doesn't say Sora's name with Roxas and Xion in ''Blank Points'' because he will have to be saved in a manner different from everyone else; in a manner similar to Master Xehanort himself. [[User:FFfangirl]] 1:43 p.m., February 7, 2011
:Yes, but in order; Heartless first. For all we know, Lea's Heartless is still roaming about. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 19:53, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
Lets hope Lea's heartless, is as tough as Axel.Axel was a great fighter even Sora could not kill him not that I think Sora is such a great keyblade wielder.--[[User:The Dark Master|The Dark Master]] 21:45, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
:Remind me, where did Nomura say it had to be in order?  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 01:17, February 8, 2011 (UTC)
It's not really in my nature to butt in, but this converstation...Shouldn't it be in a fourm?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 01:20, February 8, 2011 (UTC)
== Protagonist ==
Shouldn't Axel be labeled an official protagonist since he gets a lot of coverage and development unlike many of the other Organization members? Especially in 358/2 Days, where the story is pretty much centered on him, Xion, and Roxas. Besides, Lea is labeled a protagonist so why shouldn't Axel by extension. [[User:FFfangirl]] 1:01 p.m., January 17, 2013
:Because he doesn't act like one. Lea does, Axel doesn't. Axel serves as an antagonist in Com for being allied with the Organization, and he serves as one in KH2 for wanting to turn Sora into a Heartless to get Roxas back. - {{User:JTD95/Signature}} 18:50, 17 January 2013 (UTC)

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