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| == Reno = Axel == | | ==Just saying...== |
| | Even though it dosen't really make sense, I think Axel is Riku's nobody. This would make sense because if you look at all the pictures of kingdom hearts games you'll find something in common. When Riku, Sora and Kari all stand by that one tree on Destiny islands they always stand in the same order Sora at the back, Kairi in the middle and Riku at the front. Now I was saw a picture from 358/2 days that shows Roxas, Xion, and Axel all standing at the same tree in the same order. Plus Roxas and Axel are friends the same way Riku and Sora are. I know Riku turned into a heartless at some point so he has to have one. So basically we have instead of the order being Sora, Kairi, Riku; its Sora's nobody, Kairi's nobody, and then Riku's nobody? |
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| {{Billylemmon|text=Umm; I was wondering if it was okay to put a picture of Reno in the trivia section, just as over on the FF Wikia, they have a picture of Axel in Reno's Trivia section.
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| | http://www.khinsider.com/images/%21%21/kh01x.jpg |
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| I think it's a great idea. :)[[User:Lady Nevaeh|Lady Nevaeh]] 07:21, 1 June 2009
| | http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a152/ninawolfess/RikuKairiandSora.jpg |
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| No, i don't really think its a good idea to do this reno not even appears in the games oor not even is name is said.--[[User:Hotdragon 295|Hotdragon 295]] 01:07, July 2, 2010 (UTC)
| | They even have the same posture o.o |
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| ==Axel playable in single player in 358/2 Days==
| | A little too off topic but i just want to say it; I think Terra is Riku's rebirth and I think Xion is definatly the nobody of Sora and Kiari because if you simply take the O from Sora's name and the I from Kairi's name and add an X then its Xion. |
| Just checked the new site update. Showcases solo Axel gameplay with one of his new weapons bein' demonstrated. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 02:12, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
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| | {{KrytenKoro|Namine is the Nobody of Sora and Kairi. That much is canon, and undisputable. |
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| I just saw a new Axel pic. It's here:
| | As for Axel - He is implied to have existed for awhile before Roxas did (both through talk of not having feelings til Roxas came around, and for being the second of the new members), and Sora didn't become a Heartless much after Riku "lost" his heart. Plus. Riku is not spelt with an a, l, or e. |
| http://www.square-enix.co.jp/kingdom/days/
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| Find a way to get it. Look in Characters: Axel.
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| He's not the only one. Xaldin, Demyx and Luxord have different weapons too and they are played in solo too. Speaking of Axel, where's that new pic. The one where he's holding his chakrams in the character section?
| | Honestly, for Xion, it might be something like Xehnort - take out the X, you have "No I". Maybe she simply doesn't have a "somebody".}} |
| ::So does 358 reveal his name as Lea, or is this more vandalism?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 22:31, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
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| :::Everybody is saying that it does. [[User:Guardian Soul|Guardian Soul]] 23:43, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ::::It does. There is a scene from the game where Saix adresses him as "Lea"--or "Ria" in Japanese. [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 21:15, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
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| ==Weapons== | | {{TNE|text=xnaminex was once talking about Namine and DiZ, and how Namine was talking about Sora's leaked memories, and making a reference to Xion. Think Xion could be formed out of those leaked memories ? |
| I have a question. Now that 358/2 Days came out in Japan, should we make separate articles on the Org.XIII Weapons? You know, like how we have an article on the Keyblade (even though it "IS" an important weapon). I think it will make it more organized to have the weapons separated by their user, for example have an article on Charkams and have the different kinds with their stats. Any insight is greatly appreciated! [[User:Xlatinsorax|Xlatinsorax]] 14:43, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
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| BTW, Who is Lea? I've looked everywhere for a pic of her(him?) but it's like she doesn't exist...
| | As for Axel... I'm lost.}} |
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| Lea is Axel's name as a Somebody... so there probably isn't any pic of Lea as he is Axel. --[[User:Yer mom|Yer mom]] 00:15, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
| | {{Amy Cotton|text=We will figure out who's nobody Axel was soon. If you take out the X in his name, it might give us a clue. E.g. Lea, Ale. But I would go with the latter since Ale was the name of a drink Reno liked.}} |
| ::Technically you ''could'' have separate pictures of Lea. After all, the Nobody always looks slightly different to their Other. A significant difference is often lighter hair: Roxas and Naminé, for example {{User:Sorceror Nobody/Sig|11:58, 4 July 2009 (UTC)}}
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| :Well there was the article called Organization XIII weapons were all the info on Axel's chakrams and Saïx's claymore and all that stuff was stored but when Days came out a lot of weapons came out with it. Having a single article for all the types of Chakrams, one for all the types of Lexicons (in Zexion's case) and another one for all the tipes of Knives (in Larexene's case) would seem alright at first but there are many types of weapons for each, hence the idea of creating a page for every single weapon instead of grouping all the types in a page (since it would look cramped), it's just like the keyblade, since it's such an iconic weapon it has its single page, but every type of keyblade has its own page with its own stats, where to obtain it, appeareance and stuff, in the case of the Orgainzation's weapons it's more or less like that, every weapon gets its page and the generic name for each (i.e. Axel's chakrams) is explained in his own page under the title Weapon like in [[Axel#Weapon|here]], I hope that helps XD --[[User:Yer mom|Yer mom]] 16:41, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
| | {{TNE|attntext=On second thought, we may have to refute the "leaked" memories theory. See the section "New Theory" <s>below</s> in [[Talk:Xion]].}} |
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| ::Yea it makes sense. I was thinking, though, more along the lines of the Keyblade and using that as an example. Maybe we should wait until we get more information on their individual weapons and their stats/locations/etc..... [[User:Xlatinsorax|Xlatinsorax]] 03:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
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| | Axel is so kewl. He rox. It's so sad that he has to die. :( |
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| in days it is just hidden inside roxas diary--[[Special:Contributions/82.152.150.204|82.152.150.204]] 22:12, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Last Man Standing, Sorta==
| | sorry to bother who ever may be reading this but I think there should be a section called "abilities" of "attacks" and under it should be a list of all axel's sleights in chain of memories. If there is no response I will try to make a list myself and add it here when its done so that then a member can add it to the page if they like but I tell you it will take ages for me to do it so perhaps you should get your guys on it. but only if you want. |
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| Correct me if I'm wrong, but is Axel the only Organization XIII member that does not die in COM? [[User:Givox|Givox]] 00:56, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
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| :Yeah, Axel doesn't die in COM. If he died, it be sort of impossible for him to appear in KH2. [[User:JudgmentDay95|JudgmentDay95]] 20:25 12 July 2009 (UTC)
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| {{EO||talktext=Axel only "played" dead on CoM. He returned to Roxas' side at the World That Never Was afterward. He later died saving Sora because of Roxas in KH2.}}
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| Yea, I was just making sure he was the only one who didn't die...[[User:Givox|Givox]] 01:33, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
| | :Well, I believe that in CoM, all he has is Fire Tooth and Fire Wall, and with RE:Com, Its Fire Wall, Fire Cutter version 1 and Fire cutter version 2. |
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| == quote == | | ==Original Name== |
| | This is just a thought, but could his original name possibly be Alex? ( nobody said it couldn't have an X in it already. ) |
| | :But '''Tetsuya Nomura'''-san did '''not''' state that name is official.--NeloAngelo 07:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC) |
| | ::Sorry, it was just a question, you didn't have to be so rude |
| | :::He's just saying that you can only put things that are confirmed, not "what if"s or "possibly"s[[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 03:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC) |
| | ::::I know, but I never said anything about actually posting it. besides you guys put a "possibly" on Larxene's name |
| | :::::Did not, some anon added it, and since I'll probably screw up reverting it, I rest my case.--NeloAngelo 07:16, 19 February 2008 (UTC) |
| | ::::::It's also been stated that a Nobody name is the original name with the additional X, so only if his name had two X's could it have been Alex originally. The Patron Saint of Lost Causes 19:28, 10 March 2008 (UTC) |
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| {{firaga44|text=guys when did axel say but don't waste your time we are nobodies we can never hope to be somebodies when did axel say that because i don't remember it in kingdom hearts 2}} | | This is Axel's real name its Lea pronounced as "Lee". |
| It's in ReCoM. Before Vexen's death in Twilight Town. [[User:EternalNothingnessXIII|EternalNothingnessXIII]] 20:37, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
| | :ORLY? [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 02:32, 2 May 2008 (UTC) |
| | yes im making a list of everyones real name |
| | :Ahem, well the thing is... we can only put stuff that Nomura said himself you know. But if you want to try to guess them go ahead, as long as they don't go into the actual article... [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 00:34, 3 May 2008 (UTC) |
| | {{Omni Terra|time=03:34, 9 August 2008 (UTC)|text=Axel's original name wasn't Lea. Axel is based on a certain FF character whose favorite drink was Ale so there ya go. I'm also fairly sure Nomura confirmed it in an interview.}} |
| | :Eh, well, we gotta have the link, and I've checked every single one of the interviews, and none of them said that, only the based-off Reno part, not the ale. Besides, Nomura probably wouldn't use an explanation for a name to be based on FF characters that some people who play KH wouldn't know about...[[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 04:41, 9 August 2008 (UTC) |
| | He is based off of Reno from Final Fantasy Advent Children. Beth B. |
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| == Lea... ==
| | Yeah I noticed they have the same voice [[User:Rikloud|Rikloud]] 17:04, 13 February 2009 (UTC) |
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| When exactly does Saïx call Axel by that name, besides the reports that is.
| | :Axel was partially based off of Reno, as Tetsuya Nomura has already confirmed, because he wanted to "put a familiar character in an unfamiliar scenario". They are not related in any way other than that unless Tetsuya Nomura says otherwise. The only members whose names have even remotely been revealed are Xemnas, Xigbar, Xaldin, Vexen, Lexaeus, Zexion, and Roxas. As for the Larxene comment, the fact that some common names can be made from her name is just trivia, not speculation. Now listing all the possible names for her or any other member, ''that'' is speculation. [[User:LapisScarab|LapisScarab]] 01:14, 31 March 2009 (UTC) |
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| And is it Lee-ah or Leh-ya (As in Princess Leia)?[[User:Neo Hartless|Neo Hartless]] 20:27, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
| | Okay but 'Lea' or 'Ale'? Honestly, I can see why Axel would want to change his name if it was either. I can't see him as a 'Lea'. Ale would be a pretty odd name for someone. Who would name their kid 'Ale'? [[User:Lady Nevaeh|Lady Nevaeh]] 07:00, 1 June 2009 |
| :Japanese katakana say it's "Lee-a", but the English version changed it to "Lee".—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 23:11, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
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| But when's it spoken? [[User:Neo Hartless|Neo Hartless]] 17:46, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
| | {{unbirthtalk|text= In a [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGqdefFBmHs 358/2 cutscene], we can hear Saïx calling Axel "Lea" (I think). If it's his real name, it'll be a bit stupid, 'cause Lea in France is a girl name -__- }} |
| :http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMNZtX6Fan8&feature=player_profilepage—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 17:52, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
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| Oh, come on, Lea is the name of the "human" form of Axel. Because when their were young Axel(know as Lea) and Saïx(know as Isa) was best friend.--[[User:Hotdragon 295|Hotdragon 295]] 14:57, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
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| == Origin ==
| | Yeah, mine is about Axel's name, his orginal self, just basically it does not have to be Axel rearranged with an x taken out, remember, he could've taken on that name or something much like that, like Xemnas did, as his real name is not Ansem but Xehonart. |
| i think there's far too much speculation in the origin section. We should summarize it to a more subtle view[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 03:08, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
| | Just a thought is all [[Special:Contributions/121.72.8.134|121.72.8.134]] 23:57, 17 May 2008 (UTC) |
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| Agreed.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:21, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
| | Well its a cool thought I'll give ya that[[Special:Contributions/90.202.236.189|90.202.236.189]] 09:46, 11 February 2009 (UTC) |
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| :Well I know some of the info in there comes from Days, and as I haven't played the game I can't be too sure how much is speculation. Wanna edit it yourself so the speculation is taken out? --{{User:Yer mom/Sig}} 03:22, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
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| Just leave it the way it was for a little.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:38, October 17, 2009 (UTC) | | Yeah, mine is about Axel's name, his orginal self, just basically it does not have to be Axel rearranged with an x taken out, remember, he could've taken on that name or something much like that, like Xemnas did, as his real name is not Ansem but Xehonart. |
| | Just a thought is all [[Special:Contributions/121.72.8.134|121.72.8.134]] 23:58, 17 May 2008 (UTC) |
| | :It didn't HAVE to go through the anagram thing. If he got permission from Xemnas and a good reason to. Last time I checked, they weren't on good terms, so it probably is an anagram. [[User:XienZo|XienZo]] 00:52, 18 May 2008 (UTC) |
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| :Hmmm why? --{{User:Yer mom/Sig}} 03:44, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
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| Think about it. True, most of this stuff is speculation, but it makes sense, don't you think? We don't know anything about Axel's past besides the fact that his Somebody's name was Lea and he was once friends with Axel. Plus, they both plan to take over the Organization that was stated in Secret Reports.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 03:48, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
| | {{Billylemmon|text=Umm; I was wondering if it was okay to put a picture of Reno in the trivia section, just as over on the FF Wikia, they have a picture of Axel in Reno's Trivia section. |
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| no it doesnt. the origin says Saix changed while axel has stayed the same. in kh2 hardly any interaction did Axel have with Saix. yes they both plannedo n taking over the organization but ultimately gave up. still that's not really "origin". Too detailed and it really doesnt follow "origin".
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| i already removed the areas where it's greatly speculated, but the areas were it's a simple speculation, i kept it in.[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 03:47, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
| | I think it's a great idea. :)[[User:Lady Nevaeh|Lady Nevaeh]] 07:21, 1 June 2009 |
| ::It's not speculation, it's in the damn Secret Reports, like I already sayed. "I'm not the one who changed, you are." et all.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 21:15, October 17, 2009 (UTC)
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| that's not much of origin still. also it said saix changed and axel didnt. the report says they both did. Again, Origin. it doesnt fit in origin section
| | ==A little help with Axel's Data Replica, please ?== |
| ::"Et all" means all of the related, no just that one line.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:34, October 19, 2009 (UTC)
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| Still most of the ORigin explaines what is already in Days and KH2. ORigin would have to explain an earea where the story hasnt revealed time-wise.
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| :...It explains what happens before the actual events of those games, as it should.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 05:23, October 28, 2009 (UTC)
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| no it doesnt. Saix told axel he has changed, so axel changed during 358/2 days. the events before the games would be "he use to be a person named Lea but during the timeline of kh1 he lost his heart and his body and soul became a nobody along with his friend. the organization soon find him and make him a member, resulting to his name changed to "axel" along with his friend "Saix".
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| Hm, I think Axel is marvelous. I've liked him right from the beginning of KH II, but the more that comes out about him the more I do :) As for him being friends with Saix, I wish I knew where to find the secret reports (sadly I do not have a DS or a high proficiency in Japanese, so I'm stuck watching the 'Days' cutscenes). If anyone has videos or translations, I would appreciate a link.
| | I'm not sure, I don't have Final Mix but I think the Reaction only appears when you finish a combo, or when he hides in flames (Shrugs) |
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| And, psh. Lea. At least it's pronounced somewhat masculine. --[[User:Butterflyeffext|Butterflyeffext]] 18:56, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
| | {{TNE|text=Okay, let me give it in a little more detail. The HP bar depletes faster when Sora's on the flames. Hiding in flames is not going to trigger the Reaction Command (this is similar for all Data Replica battles).}} |
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| Everything In-game is already in he origin section, which still doesnt explain his true origin. i dont believe we should even make an origin fo r Axel unless more is revealed.[[User:Aqua00000|Aqua00000]] 20:14, November 1, 2009 (UTC)
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| | Umm...I have a question:Is possible for humanoid Nobodies to...have kids? |
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| {{DOH|text= Does Axel wear eyeliner? And what about the teardrops under his eyes?}}
| | [[User:GohanRULEZ|gohanRULEZ]] 18:09, 5 March 2009 (UTC) |
| {{EO|time=22:36, October 29, 2009 (UTC)|talktext=Now, I want you to examine my talk bubble image REALLY CLOSE-LIKE! Axel does not wear eyeliner... Nomura just gave him "Egyptian Lashes", I'd say. As for the tear drops, they are supposed to match Reno's scar-like tatoos, as Reno was Axel's basis.}}
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| {{DOH|text=Oh, they're eyelashes?? His eyes always seemed feminine...}}
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| {{PrincessAndie|text= Maybe those line things are eyeliner. When I get bored, I take my eyeliner and draw them in under my eyes, and they look just like his.}}
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| | I suppose the only things they're missing are hearts but..... |
| {{NinjaSheik|text=I know this is pretty stupid to bring up, but has anyone else noticed that when Axel lies or is up to something, he averted his eyes? He looked away when his lieing. Take example in ''Chain of Memories'', when Marluxia ordered Axel to wipe put Vexen, he turned his back to him. And in ''358/2 Days'', when Axel lied to Roxas about Xion going on some big mission when she actually went to Catle Oblivion, he looked away. In Roxas's Journel entry for that day, he eve stated that Axel wasn't looking at him. And countless of times, I noticed Axel always look away from Roxas when our little blond hero asked about himself. Should we, like, mention something about this in his page?}}
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| {{DOH|text= I think that we should. I haven't really noticed that now that you mention it.}}
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| {{NinjaSheik|text=I didn't either until I saw ''358/2 Days''. This have been on my mind for a looong time.}}
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| {{DOH|text= It was only in Days? I thought it was in Kingdom Hearts II...or I'm just seeing things.}}
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| {{NinjaSheik|text=Hmmm...I don't know. Maybe.}}
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| {{AZ|time=22:00, June 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=But a problem comes in here. If Axel had a continuous habit of averting his eyes, people wouldnt have trusted him as much. Or be fooled by him as much. The only time he did much was when he was lying to his true friends (i.e. Roxas, Xion, maybe on the occasion Saix) so it should more of be that he cant really lie to his friends. In re:COM there was a part where he wasnt looking at Larxene and talking to her but that was to make seem as though he had a soft spot for Sora }}
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| {{NinjaSheik|text=Perhaps no one notice before or decided to acknowledge it.}}
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| {{AZ|time=22:09, June 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=That would be valid if Axel wasnt Axel. He's an assassin no? That's why i'm pretty sure the only time he really averted his eyes was with his friends. It's a good observation though but it becomes flawed when you go into the detail of who Axel is.}}
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| |text=The avoidance of eye contact is common when real people are lying, so it might have been deliberately put in to emphasise Axel acting like he has a Heart. Most of the tells for lying are, fundamentally, emotional responses. Consequently, some people who can barefacedly lie and avoid detection are able to do so because they are psychopaths, who have extreme emotional detachment. Compare this trait to ordinary Nobodies, and I think you'll see what I'm getting at. Furthermore, if as pointed out above, he only really does it when lying to friends, this further reinforces the fact that it is an emotional response – he only does it on such occasions because he feels guilty about lying to someone he cares about.
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| {{NinjaSheik|text=The whole "assassin" thing, it's just his title. It doesn't define who he is. Axel...He's a good guy, whether he has a heart or not. I mean, he did help Sora out in the end.}}
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| == Lea in Jump Festa Trailer!!! == | | {{Xiggie|text=hehe, I've thought about this before :P ''Can nobodies breed?''}} |
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| According to KHInsider, Lea is going to be in the Jump Festa trailer!
| | wow... what an odd question. uuummmmmm... my guess would be yes. Because in physically speaking, they have human bodies. but then agian, a Nobody child would has no heart, something needed for complete exsistance. But it would be a Nobody child, meaning it would never be complete in the first place.... my guess is still yes though. -[[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]] |
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| | {{Gohantalk|time=It's time to break stuff!|text=Good! I was gonna write an Fanfic were Axel and [[httpnaruto.wikia.comwikiShizune|A Girl]] were going to get together and have a Kid.}} |
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| Saix's Other better be there, too. >.>
| | .....good..luck. glad i could...help.. O.o -[[User:Xnaminex|xNaminéx]] |
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| {{HOO|time=02:16, December 19, 2009 (UTC)|text=I'm guessing we are going to make the Lea page after Jump Festa?}} | | {{SorcerorNobodyTalk |
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| | |text=I see no reason why they couldn't reproduce. Still, while we're on the subject of Organization member physiology, I personally like the idea that, just like other Nobodies, the humanoid ones also have the emblem on their body somewhere. Kinda like a tattoo, except it's intrinsic to their body. :P |
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| | == Bad Language == |
| | Is it true that Axel said 'damn' in Chain of Memories?Pizzahut101 02:19, 15 March 2009 (UTC) |
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| This is cool~! I knew it! I knew Lea would be here! I hope Saix is there, too, hoprefully being nice.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 02:21, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
| | {{TNE|text=I'm not sure, but I know he said it in the prologue of Kingdom Hearts II, when he was trying to abduct Roxas for the first time.}} |
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| {{Maggosh|text=I gotta say, I was starting to doubt Lea showing up, but it turns out he will.}}
| | The only thing that could ever be called a swear in COM was that "give me a hell of a show!" thing.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 07:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC) |
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| Shall I go make a page with Lea?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 02:36, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
| | {{TNE|text=But I wouldn't entirely say that Axel is foul-mouthed... I mean, of course, he goes past the limits of an E-rated game, but unlike most others, he has emotions, and that's what earns him our sympathy.}} |
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| | I was very sad when poor Axel died. He and Roxas are the only members that don't desearve to die (dispite Roxas still being alive). Amalia 12:47, 15 March 2009 (UTC) |
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| YEP~!--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 02:46, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
| | {{TNE|text=True..... Why is it that the mentors must always die ? Ansem the Wise died. Axel died. Goodness knows what happened to Terra (and God forbid, he became Xehanort !).}} |
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| == Origin Pt. II ==
| | I wouldn't be amazed if Axel cussing is true, in my opinion Axel is probably the weirdest character so far.--[[User:PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart|PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart]] 18:01, 2 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| {{EO|time=20:49, December 23, 2009 (UTC)|text=Shouldn't we move the Origin section to Lea's page? That's what we did for the Apprentices... Then again, the section does have more relevance to Axel's actions, whereas it was opposite for the Apprentices...}} | | {{Rikloud|text=he is also one of the coolest the others being Roxas and Riku}} |
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| == chakram fail ==
| | {{Flashpenny | It's kinda a golden rule of pop culture: video games, movies, books etc. If there's a character that's lovable and everyone likes, they're screwed. What happened to Gandalf in the first Lord of the Rings movie? Read Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince. Watch Dante's Peak and tell me what happens to Granny Ruth. You get my point.}} |
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| look up a picture of a chakram it actually has an S shaped handel and its blade is completely round. XD![[User:Durrf9|Durrf9]] 20:13, March 1, 2010 (UTC)
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| Well, that's one of {{w|Xena|Xena's}} chakrams you're talking about. It's just the design of chakram she holds. The reason that you get a lot of pictures of her chakram when you google it is becuase she's just well known for using one. A chakram by definition is just a razor-edged ring or disk, and I don't think it get's more detailed than that. There's no "correct" form of one, just like there is no "correct" form of a sword. A katana doesn't stop being a katana because it has a square guard instead of a circular one, does it?.--'''''[[User:LapisScarab|<span style="color:navy;">Lapis of</span>]][[User talk:LapisScarab|<span style="color:darkred;">the Night</span>]]''''' 02:09, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
| | Me (xion) and my brother (axl) were using the screen names xion and axl for years before kingdom hearts came out . Some game desingers saw us on the net and stole our names.--[[Special:Contributions/208.118.200.168|208.118.200.168]] 19:11, 30 March 2009 (UTC) xion. |
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| ==Dual Wielding== | | {{Xiggie|shocked=again, I really doubt that! |
| Shouldn't it be in the article that Axel is the only member of the Org to see Roxas's Dual-Wielding ability?--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 22:51, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
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| == a request ==
| | plus, how does axl connect to Ax'''e'''l? |
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| is it okay if i change the qoute on the top to "got it memorizied" since that's his cathphrase | | anyway, Axel is somewhat based on a FF character named Reno, his favorite drink was ALE, and rumbled together +X, they make Axel! |
| :Leave the quote as is. The quote we currently have is correct and has the "got it memorized" part at the end.--[[User:Xion4ever|<span style="color:black">''Xion''</span>]][[User talk:Xion4ever|<span style="color:darkred">''4''</span>]][[User:Xion4ever/Atelier|<span style="color:maroon">''ever''</span>]] 01:04, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
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| == It was never Roxas == | | plus, If my name was the same as a KH character, I'd be delighted!}} |
| | :Sorry if I sound rude, anon, but get over yourself.—[[User:Urutapu|Urutapu]] 00:36, 31 March 2009 (UTC) |
| | {{TNE|blahtext=I do have to agree with Xiggie and Urutapu. Just because your screen names feature in Days ? '''''Get real''''', buddy. It should be an honour !}} |
| | {{Guardian Soul|text=Obviously a coincidence.}} |
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| It was Namine: | | It would be an honor to have characters in Kingdom Hearts share your username. I would be really pleased if they will have a character be called Princess Andie!--[[User:PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart|PrincessAndie8thprincessofheart]] 17:59, 2 May 2009 (UTC) |
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| http://www.onemanga.com/Kingdom_Hearts_2/14/26/
| | ==Axel playable in single player in 358/2 Days== |
| | Just checked the new site update. Showcases solo Axel gameplay with one of his new weapons bein' demonstrated. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 02:12, 25 April 2009 (UTC) |
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| In the article it says this:
| | I just saw a new Axel pic. It's here: |
| ""In the Data Castle Oblivion Episode 8, the data Naminé reveals to Data Sora and King Mickey that Axel is one of the people that, while gone, is still connected to Sora's heart. ""
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| | Find a way to get it. Look in Characters: Axel. |
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| Does that mean that Axel's gonna come back in future games? Cause I seriously think that that is a bad idea...
| | He's not the only one. Xaldin, Demyx and Luxord have different weapons too and they are played in solo too. Speaking of Axel, where's that new pic. The one where he's holding his chakrams in the character section? |
| | | ::So does 358 reveal his name as Lea, or is this more vandalism?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 22:31, 31 May 2009 (UTC) |
| {{AZ|time=22:53, June 6, 2010 (UTC)|text= I love the idea of Axel coming back and i'm pretty sure i know what's gonna happen. In fact i think we'll be seeing most of the Organization again. Including Roxas and Xion. Plus in the secret ending of BBS Axel's there so we can assume its going to happen.}}
| | :::Everybody is saying that it does. [[User:Guardian Soul|Guardian Soul]] 23:43, 1 June 2009 (UTC) |
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| {{No.1xemnas|zexiontalk=I for one, disagree with you. and yes he does appear in BBS. But, I think axel should not come back. HE'S A TRAITOR!!! In kingdom hearts Re:chain of memories, He takes pleasure in eliminating two of which belongs to innocence! Refering to zexion and vexen! Vexen was trying to save Sora! And axel rewards him with only destruction! Zexion was already injurred, and wanted only more than just to end the sharade with marluxia! And axel turns the replica against him! Axel also BETRAYS the Organiztion! He betrays Saix! Saix was once his friend! his true friend! And he betrays him! I think only his Somebody should come back. His Somebody's Heart will make him see whats wrong, hopefully keeping him from doing anymore damage!}}
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| {{Genesis|time=00:57, June 13, 2010 (UTC)|text=I would assume that ONLY the Somebodies of the Organization would come back. Considering that Marluxia and Larxene were already trying to overthrow the Organization, those two definitely wouldn't be welcome back. Same with Axel, since he helped Sora. Vexen, Zexion, and Lexeaus...(Is that how you spell his name?) they would probably TRY to remain loyal to the Organization, same goes for Xigbar and Xaldin, since they didn't do anything to betray the Organization. But, it depends on whether they come back as Somebodies or Nobodies, I think it would be more likely as Somebodies though. And i think Axel should come back anyways, no matter what. :3 }}
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| {{AZ|time=22:53, June 6, 2010 (UTC)|text= I have to disagree with you sis no offense. But if the somebodies came back they wouldn't remember a thing of being nobodies. What would be the sense of telling them a whole story about who they were. On the other hand the nobodies seem to remember who they are. I would think what would happen would be the nobodies of parts of the Org. 13 end up coming back and coming in contact with Sora's heart and re-gaining their own emotions DEVELOP a heart of their own instead of regaining their old ones therefore remaining the same people they were as Nobodies but having hearts. So for example Axel would still be Axel but with a heart now. He would not revert back to Lea.}}
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| {{LyingMemories|time=[[User:Lying Memories|Lying Memories]] 05:01, July 28, 2010 (UTC)|luxord= I disagree with the notion that Axel shouldn't come back again. I think that he is one of the best characters in the series, and although some of his actions may have been horrible and wrong, in the end it boils down to him valuing his friendship with Roxas and Xion, because he no longer had one with Saix. Plus, I really wanna see a scene where Axel and Reno meet ^_^ that would be funny.}}
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| == Got it memorized? ==
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| Every time someone add "Got it memorized?" as one of Axel's quotes it gets removed. I heard this is because the max number of quotes on a character page is 10, but "Got it memorized?" is the most used quote by Axel, so why doesn't it replace another quote? - [[User:JTD95|JTD95]] 17:48, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
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| :Because "My show now, Keyblade master! Who am I? Oh, my name's Axel. Got it memorized?" is already on the top of the article--[[User:Xabryn|Xabryn]] 20:00, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
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| ::Because it also appears in his synopsis section.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 21:27, June 16, 2010 (UTC)
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| {{LyingMemories|time=[[User:Lying Memories|Lying Memories]] 05:02, July 28, 2010 (UTC)|luxord= Because we already know that's his favorite thing to say}}
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| With the release of Birth by sleep, Axel is no longer the only character to have said hell - Maleficent says it at one point, mimicking her line from the original movie. Should this piece be removed/edited?
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| {{Maggosh|flint=1) Sign your posts, 2) Don't put new messages at the top of the page, 3) Maleficent says hell in actual reference to Hell; Axel says it as a curse.}}
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| I have a question if you dont mind but in this article you say that Sora and Roxas are one and the same. The statement is not entirely true. I thought that Roxas was a the result of the part of Soras heart given to him by Ventus that made Roxas. So wouldn't that make Roxas like Sora but not the same?
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| A)sign your comments, B)Sora and Roxas are the same because Roxas is Sora's nobody, so it's no different then seeing Axel and Lea as one and the same, The only reason Roxas looks like Ventus is because of Ventus's prsence in Sora's heart and because it is possible that Roxas is harboring Ventus's heart the way that Sora does C)Why is this on Axel's talk page?--{{User:ShadowsTwilight/Sig}} 17:21, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
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| Sorry for not signing. I am from the villains wiki. And this is on Axels talk page because the quote I was questioning is on this page. I still dont quite understand. There are two sides to Soras heart, so that bring up the question of wether Sora has another nobody out there or not.
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| ---M-Nuva
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| :Roxas is Sora's body and Ventus's heart, both of which were parts of Sora. Sora's only other Nobody is Namine, who is technically Kairi's Nobody, but her birth involved the mixture of Sora and Kairi.[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 17:58, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
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| Normal Nobodies retained their former memories as a somebody, right? Then is it just me or does he actually forgot Ventus or just didn't notice <s> how strikingly similar </s> that Roxas and Ven has the same face? {{User:17master/Sign}}
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| Because Roxas and Ven don't have the same face, although they do have the same hairstyle. But I guess he didn't retain enough memories, so much for being known. {{User:Erry/Sig}} 18:41, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
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| Actually, Roxas and Ventus could be identical twins. They have the exact same face. (It's just hard to tell this cause Ventus never looks angry and Roxas never looks happy. But you can kind of see it comparing [[:File:ArmorSummon.png|this]] and [[:File:Roxas-2.jpg|this]].) {{User:Soxra/Sig}} 18:47, December 6, 2010 (UTC)
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| ==Bringing Axel back==
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| During the secret ending of Re: Coded, Yen Sid said that once someone's Heartless and Nobody are destroyed, that their original self is brought back? My theory is that in order for Sora to save Axel, he will have to find and destroy Axel's Heartless. I think I even read an interview somewhere where Nomura said that Axel doesn't say Sora's name with Roxas and Xion in ''Blank Points'' because he will have to be saved in a manner different from everyone else; in a manner similar to Master Xehanort himself. [[User:FFfangirl]] 1:43 p.m., February 7, 2011
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| :Yes, but in order; Heartless first. For all we know, Lea's Heartless is still roaming about. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 19:53, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
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| Lets hope Lea's heartless, is as tough as Axel.Axel was a great fighter even Sora could not kill him not that I think Sora is such a great keyblade wielder.--[[User:The Dark Master|The Dark Master]] 21:45, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
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| :Remind me, where did Nomura say it had to be in order? --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 01:17, February 8, 2011 (UTC)
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| It's not really in my nature to butt in, but this converstation...Shouldn't it be in a fourm?--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 01:20, February 8, 2011 (UTC)
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| Shouldn't Axel be labeled an official protagonist since he gets a lot of coverage and development unlike many of the other Organization members? Especially in 358/2 Days, where the story is pretty much centered on him, Xion, and Roxas. Besides, Lea is labeled a protagonist so why shouldn't Axel by extension. [[User:FFfangirl]] 1:01 p.m., January 17, 2013
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| :Because he doesn't act like one. Lea does, Axel doesn't. Axel serves as an antagonist in Com for being allied with the Organization, and he serves as one in KH2 for wanting to turn Sora into a Heartless to get Roxas back. - {{User:JTD95/Signature}} 18:50, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
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