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| | {{expand|create=Rewards list is upside down; add list of prefabricated avatars, their quotes, their floortypes, their challenges, their trophies, their ranks; add images to rewards list; explain communications exploit in Tag Mode section; add list of tenth-floor challenges; add list of Avatar Sector enemies; list of challenges should be in table form; challenges and floortypes that you can give away depend on how far into the Sector you are, we should list how far you have to go to get each of them.}} |
| | ==Avatar Mode== |
| | Either main-link to the Avatar Parts page, or import the whole thing here.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 11:48, 16 February 2011 (EST) |
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| | ==Avatar Sector== |
| * [[Talk:Avatar Menu/Archive 1|Archive 1]] - March 30, 2011
| | I didn't keep track of which ones dropped which parts, so it would be somewhat difficult to recreate these, but there are 50 default avatars, as shown [http://s376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/KrytenKoro/Avatars/ here]. The floor challenge, number of trophies (look especially at the Organization trophy amounts), name, and quote are all references to the avatar. The last nine (first nine in the album) and UrTrueSelf were the ones that were generated randomly (as you can tell by them all having Goofy's mouth for some reason), and were obtained through long waiting, not the Wii trick.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 00:20, 16 February 2011 (EST) |
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| ==Todo summary== | | ;Randomized avatars (trophy, challenge, and floor are random also): |
| When dealt with, delete, do not archive.
| | *UrTrueSelf: Reunited at last, eh?[http://s376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/KrytenKoro/Avatars/?action=view¤t=IMG00154-20110216-0009.jpg] |
| | *AlwaysLTTP: And often not invited...[http://s376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/KrytenKoro/Avatars/?action=view¤t=IMG00193-20110216-0014.jpg] |
| | *The 1nk1ing: Did I jog your memory?[http://s376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/KrytenKoro/Avatars/?action=view¤t=IMG00192-20110216-0014.jpg][http://s376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/KrytenKoro/Avatars/?action=view¤t=IMG00186-20110216-0013.jpg] |
| | *UsualNon¢s: Penny for yer thoughts?[http://s376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/KrytenKoro/Avatars/?action=view¤t=IMG00191-20110216-0014.jpg] |
| | *UR<3sDzire: And now, I can be yours.[http://s376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/KrytenKoro/Avatars/?action=view¤t=IMG00190-20110216-0013.jpg] |
| | *DistantVOX: HELLO? (OH-Oh-oh...)[http://s376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/KrytenKoro/Avatars/?action=view¤t=IMG00189-20110216-0013.jpg] |
| | *Don'tASCII: It's a SCSI story anyway.[http://s376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/KrytenKoro/Avatars/?action=view¤t=IMG00188-20110216-0013.jpg] |
| | *BigBrudda: 'Sup, bro? Need a hand?[http://s376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/KrytenKoro/Avatars/?action=view¤t=IMG00187-20110216-0013.jpg] |
| | *TwixtTween: Always stuck in da middle.[http://s376.photobucket.com/albums/oo209/KrytenKoro/Avatars/?action=view¤t=IMG00185-20110216-0013.jpg] |
| | *Could_B_U: See the resemblance?{{fact}} |
| | *The"{{button|r}}"One: I dunno why you "{{button|l}}" me.{{fact}} |
| | *ORLY_YARLY: Will my life have meaning?{{fact}} |
| | *10derMemry: It's great to be a kid.{{fact}} |
| | *A1ternateU: Always just a step away...{{fact}} |
| | *NotTe11ing: ...Unless you ask nicely.{{fact}} |
| | *FlyOnDWall: Teh real bug in this tale!{{fact}} |
| | *Masker8dr: No one knows my REAL name.{{fact}} |
| | *No1UKnow: So let's keep it that way.{{fact}} |
| | *LivNLegacy: Oh. You're not gone yet?{{fact}} |
| | *∞Lives: I totally 1-upped you.{{fact}} |
| | *miracle2Go: May I take your order?{{fact}} |
| | *(>_<)/RAGE: Back off! I'm angsty!{{fact}} |
| | *PureRandom: Nothin' to see, folks!{{fact}} |
| | *Sdrawkcab{{button|l}}: Ereh sedoc terces on!{{fact}} |
| | *U.Know.Who: Don't pretend you don't.{{fact}} |
| | *UnsungHero: No one ever sings for me.{{fact}} |
| | *P00rPuppet: Always being strung along.{{fact}} |
| | *UrPastLife: You're me but I ain't you.{{fact}} |
| | *Pure^_^Joy: With plenty to go around.{{fact}} |
| | *Omigoddess: I'm, like, a divine ditz!{{fact}} |
| | *ROFLCopter: Hey, do you LOLerskate?{{fact}} |
| | *MeIfIWereU: Chew on that. Deep, huh?{{fact}} |
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| *Confirm number of parts matched for each "Avatar comment".
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| *Confirm whether manipulating your clock affects the -3/hr penalty.
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| *Confirm whether n_l resets or maxes out.
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| *p326: Note about getting letters from the same friend and ensemble. Should probably translate.
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| *Translate p329 Card prizes - Commands and all go on their pages; make general list explanation here.
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| *Translate p335 section based on Prize Blox - list on relevant command pages, not here.
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| *Explain floor code specifications within the section; most of it will link to the actual system sector page.
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| *Add short explanation of "Genre" and "Parts replaced" to Avatar Parts section.
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| *Add column listing all parts used in each ensemble.
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| *Add to Data-Riku's boss page that the bugged version is LV99 - source p326.
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| | If anyone gets any others, please add them to this list, with the name, quote, and a screenshot for evidence.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 11:39, 16 February 2011 (EST) |
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| I'll work on the translations. Shard, can you please test the 3hr penalty and n_l questions (for n_l, you should be getting viruses every time once you have 200 letters total, which you have; if not, then estimate how often you get viruses, I assume about 50%). DTN, I need you to tell me exactly how far you've gotten with the Avatar comment thing. It should realistically take two hours to complete, so if you don't have that time, you need to tell one of us. This article '''''<big>WILL NOT MISS THE DEADLINE AGAIN</big>'''''.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 21:58, 26 April 2011 (EDT)
| | Make sure to mention the 10th-floor challenges and Data-Riku.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 11:48, 16 February 2011 (EST) |
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| == Avatar Parts last copyedit ==
| | We will also need to list enemies, and it might be worth it to call out which enemy-types are bugged for the various floors. |
| [http://www.khwiki.net/index.php?title=Avatar_Menu&action=historysubmit&diff=484109&oldid=484032 Here]
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| I'm going to go ahead and say that I didn't confirm the nihongo for each one with the Ultimania, but the ones I did were right (except Sora B at the beginning). Still, they can't be that far off, since they are all legible.
| | ==Tag Mode== |
| | Describe DS Communications trick; describe the "official" version" of trading avatars; describe Balloon Letters and Scratch Cards - character and bonus hunts, and especially the three special scratches.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 11:48, 16 February 2011 (EST) |
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| I relaxed the literalization of "の" to be treated as an adjectival form for some cases (basically, whenever the dub used it that way). I hope that's acceptable, since it removes a lot of mostly useless "lit" sections. | | ==Rare Scratch Card== |
| | Does somebody know why Scratch Cards with the worlds "Dive to Heart", "100 Acre Wood", "Disney Town" or "Hollow Bastion" are considered rare? I can't remember if the prizes were more special than the ones of the normal cards. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 11:01, 28 February 2011 (EST) |
| | :I've only gotten 100 Acre Wood once, and none of the others, so I can't really say too much (are you sure it's Disney ''Town''?), but it didn't have any special cards on it at all, and the prizes were pretty bleh.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:19, 28 February 2011 (EST) |
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| Wanpi/su: translate as "Sundress" (best english translation I could come up with based on knowledge of clothing terms), or allow give and take for whatever type of dress the dub thinks it's using? Or translate phonetically as One-piece in all cases?
| | ==Feeling Lucky== |
| | Okay, I still don't know how this works exactly. So I'm collection evidence here: |
| | There seems to be at least two forms of the stat upgrade. |
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| Same thing with "Uwagi", though that has a much more acceptable translation as the generic "Top".
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| Facial Hair: Japanese really doesn't separate the various types, so it just feels pedantic to me to use "lit" when the only problem is that there isn't an exact Japanese word for that type of facial hair. I'd like to remove the lit tags for those listed below, where applicable (possibly not Eraqus).
| | I don't know if the one with the notes is a lesser one or just a different form. |
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| Boushi: In some cases, Kyappu or Hatto is used for Cap and Hat, and "Bou" is usually translated as Cap. Thus, I'm fine with modifying the lit for the W Mushroom and Seifer, but also fine with leaving it how it is.
| | This are the comments on other Avatars I got: |
| | *That outfit! Ugh, don't make eye contact... |
| | *Err, can you say "akward"? |
| | *Hopefully a friendship is in the cards. |
| | *But...which one of you is cooler? |
| | *You hate to admit it, but that outfit's the bomb! |
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| Piasu: Studs and Piercings and Earrings of that sort are just called "Piasu" in nihongo (there doesn't appear to be a dedicated word for "stud", and all variants I can find use piasu). However, we translate "Ability Piasu" as Ability Earring, not the dub's "Ability Stud". Can we let Stud slide here, and on the Ability Stud page?
| | *Have you met before? You're pretty happy! |
| | *You have alot in common. You're pretty happy! |
| | *You sort of think alike. You're pretty happy! |
| | *Seems you two get along. You're pretty happy! |
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| Boa-dzuke: Based on image searches, I feel pretty confident that lined could be reasonable. However, there are no direct translations on the web, and the closest I could come to an accurate translation would be "{{w|feather boa|Boa}}d Boots".
| | The last ones all contain the "You're pretty happy!" line. My theory is, that after you get a specific amount of this comments in a to be determined time frame, you get a stat boost. The stat boost itself seems to last for a defined playtime or is dependent from real time. I think it's the last, because the boost vanished after two days or so. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 11:01, 28 February 2011 (EST) |
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| Finally: the comments with Goofy D's Mouth and Luxord's Goatee. Does the Ultimania have the wrong order, according to the game, or do we?
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| |width="2%" style="color:white; text-align:center"|'''No.'''
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| |7||[[File:Features-7-Santa Beard.png]]||{{nihongo|'''Santa Beard'''|サンタ服（パンツ）のヒゲ|<br>Santa-fuku (Pantsu) no Hige|lit. "Santa-suit (Pants)'s Facial Hair}}
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| |10||[[File:Features-10-Goofy D's Mouth.png]]||{{nihongo|'''Goofy D's Mouth'''|グーフィーDのクチ|<br>Gūfī D no Kuchi|}}<!--#11 in Ultimania - what is it in game?-->
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| |11||[[File:Features-11-Luxord's Goatee.png]]||{{nihongo|'''Luxord's Goatee'''|ルクソードのヒゲ|<br>Rukusōdo no Hige|lit. "Luxord's Facial Hair"}}<!--#10 in Ultimania - what is it in game?-->
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| |13||[[File:Features-13-Eraqus's Soul Patch + Stache.png]]||{{nihongo|'''Eraqus's Soul Patch + Stache'''|エラクゥスのヒゲ|<br>Erakwusu no Hige|lit. "Eraqus's Facial Hair"}}
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| |14||[[File:Features-14-Sazh's Goatee.png]]||{{nihongo|'''Sazh's Goatee'''|サッズのヒゲ|<br>Sazzu no Hige|lit. "Sazh's Facial Hair"}}
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| |3||[[File:Scars, Etc-3-Rai's Scruff.png]]||{{nihongo|'''Rai's Scruff'''|ライのヒゲ|<br>Rai no Hige|lit. "Rai's Facial Hair"}}
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| |5||[[File:Scars, Etc-5-Snooty Stache.png]]||{{nihongo|'''Snooty Stache'''|アートなヒゲ|<br>Āto na Hige|lit. "Artsy Facial Hair"}}
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| |7||[[File:Hats-7-White Mushroom's Cap.png]]||{{nihongo|'''White Mushroom's Cap'''|Wマッシュルームの帽子|<br>W Masshurūmu no Boushi|lit. "W Mushroom's Hat"}}
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| |21||[[File:Hats-21-Seifer's Skullcap.png]]||{{nihongo|'''Seifer's Skullcap'''|サイファーの帽子|<br>Saifā no Boushi|lit. "Seifer's Hat"}}
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| |3||[[File:Face & Neck-3-Wakka's Studs.png]]||{{nihongo|'''Wakka's Studs'''|ワッカのピアス|<br>Wakka no Piasu|lit. "Wakka's Earrings"}}
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| |44||[[File:Face & Neck-44-Cloud C's Studs.png]]||{{nihongo|'''Cloud C's Studs'''|クラウドCのピアス|<br>Kuraudo C no Piasu|lit. "Cloud C's Earrings"}}
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| |24||[[File:Shoes-24-Lined Boots.png]]||{{nihongo|'''Lined Boots'''|ボア付きブーツ|<br>Boa-dzuke Būtsu}}
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| {{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:37, 4 April 2011 (EDT)
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| I can't help much with the translation, but the order of Goofy D's Mouth and Luxord's Goatee is indeed wrong, I messed up. --[[User:ShardofTruth|ShardofTruth]] 17:48, 12 April 2011 (EDT)
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| #RE: の — All things considered, it makes sense to do it like that.
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| #RE: Wanpisu — I'm gonna point out that I hate this one. Its translation is basically "dress", but it gets there via "one-piece". ''(Argh.)'' Maybe we should just go with "dress" and leave it alone.
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| #RE: Uwagi — Yeah, I think that's fine.
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| #RE: Hige — I'm quite not so hot on letting this one go. I know I find it weird when I come across "''hige''" being translated annoyingly, or "beard" and "mustache" being wanked around in translation (See [http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/Whitebeard <span style="background:white">Whitebeard</span>])
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| #RE: Boushi — Not sure. As far as I can tell, "cap" is a specific type of hat. I guess I could go either way (I notice, by the way, you didn't put a lit. for Donald's Cap), but if "''boushi''" is as general as I think it is, do we let the translation be fluid, or do we just say it's "hat"...?
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| #RE: Piasu — Hate this one, too, for basically the same reason as for #2. Same issue applies, plus the issue from #5. I'm alright with translating it as "earring", but again, I don't know how fluid we should be.
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| #RE: Boa-dzuke — Important question: What is "boa" in this case? If it is like the {{w|Feather boa|<span style="background:white">scarf</span>}}, maybe we should just have it as "boa'd boots" (yes, the apostrophe is important) and leave it as that. Include the wikipedia link, maybe?
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| #RE: Numbering order — SOLVED
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| One concern of my own: I would actually like someone to check up on the names of Tidus's parts, both A and B. Specifically which ones are A and B. There are inconsistencies I found that I want to be sure of.}}
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| *Although dictionaries define "Wanpi" simply as dress, it specifically refers to dresses of a certain length; the closest analog I could find in English is the sundress (again, I am by no means experience with female clothes).
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| *I'm good with your take on uwagi and hige.
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| *"Boushi" is kind of a bigger hat, while "bou" is a smaller hat, from what I've seen. (Donald was a mistake, we can fix it).
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| *So, are you good with translating "Piasu" as both Earring and Stud (since they are both translated as piasu?)? Here ''and'' on Ability Stud?
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| *As far as I can tell, yes, it is a feather boa. The thing is that those boots are simply lined boats, from what I saw on google. I agree that I'd be more comfortable calling them boa'd boots, though.
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| {{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 02:27, 18 April 2011 (EDT)
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| == Floor Code table ==
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| 出現するルームの候補 (List of appearing rooms)
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| ルームの数 (Number of rooms)
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| バグルームの数 (Number of Bug rooms)
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| 特殊なブロック配置のルームの数 - トラップ (Number of Special Block Arrangement Rooms - Trap)
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| 特殊なブロック配置のルームの数 - プライズ (Number of Special Block Arrangement Rooms - Prize)
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| バグエネミーの種類 (Type of Bug Enemy)
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| ゴールドトリコローマの出現確率 (Gold Tricholoma Appearance Probability)
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| エリミネーターの出現確率 (Eliminator Appearance Probability)
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| 黄 - Yellow - 高速化 Hasted
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| 青 - Blue - 透明化 Vanished
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| 赤 - Red - 凶暴化 Berserked
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| ルームのNo.と形の対応はP.215~217を、ゴールドトリコローマやエリミネーターの詳細な出現条件はP.198を参照
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| == Scratch Card rewards ==
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| Is there any system to what commands you might get from Scratch Cards, or are they basically random? --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 22:16, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
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| I can't remember, are these rewarded for finishing chapters as in coded/Mobile? Or are they fully random, as the article claims?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 15:49, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
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| == Avatar Parts Genres ==
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| From what I can tell, it appears that rather than matching specific parts to increase happiness, there's a genre associated with most avatar parts, with the exception of Bods, Lips, and Peepers. Just about everything else has a specific genre which the Ultimania assigns a letter value to. It appears that the boost is 1 point for each part equipped that is from the same genre, plus it also appears that you get 1 additional point no matter what. What isn't completely clear is where you get 1 point for each one part you match to your friend, or whether it's a cumulative effect (i.e. if all your parts are from 1 genre, do you get a boost even if the other avatar doesn't match at all?; If the other Avatar has 3 parts of a genre you have 1 of, is that 1 point for one pair of parts matched, 3 for having 3 parts match a genre of the other avatar, or 4 for total number of matching parts?). At any rate, there only appear to be 6 genres in total. --[[User:JeruTz|JeruTz]] ([[User talk:JeruTz|talk]]) 17:42, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
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