Editing Talk:Attractions

Seriously Byz, don't. This will need its own page in due course, and there's no point making a redirect for it now. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 15:03, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
:A redirect is fine for now and besides someone else has made a redirect for Rapunzel so i don't see how this is any different. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 15:11, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
I don't know why this had to be done in the first place for Rapunzel; we ''never'' did this for when Jaq was announced for Birth by Sleep. The page was erased immediately. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 15:58, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
::Rapunzel was probably made into a redirect (temporarily) because we have ''no'' information about her involvement in ''Kingdom Hearts''. Attraction Flow is something we actually could make an article out of at the present time. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 17:30, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
:::I have to disagree. We know too little about Attraction Flow at this moment to make it into an article. I think we should delete this redirect, and Rapunzel as well, for now. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:33, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
I wouldn't be against making some sort of preliminary article for Attraction Flow. We've already seen at least 3 or 4 different uses of the technique, and we know what it is at a basic level. If not an actual article, at least some sort of preliminary design should be whipped up. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 17:37, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
:If we have enough to cobble together an article, then let's go for it. I think we do anyway, not sure about what the rest think. Otherwise, delete altogether. '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 20:07, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
::We certainly have more about Attraction Flow to make a rough article than we do the so-called "Kingdom of Corona." - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 21:00, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
:::Yes, this article contains so much more content than Kingdom of Corona. But seriously, I think it would be a better idea to create articles about new KH3 features in userspace first, and move it to mainspace when it has enough information, like how a lot of other wiki's do it. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 11:29, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
This article ''can'' be good enough to continue existing if we add a development section with the information we've learned from previous interviews. I'm not against moving it to a user space if no one wants to add that section at the moment.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 11:57, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
:Well i just noticed the french Kingdom Hearts wiki has this page. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 16:22, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
::That has exactly no bearing on what we do here.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 17:18, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
:::Well they don't seem to have any problem with having the page on there wiki. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 17:27, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
::::Still no bearing. Whether we have a page or not is up to us.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 18:02, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
:::::I honestly don't understand why we have ANY ''Kingdom Hearts III'' articles on this Wiki aside from the actual game's page. There is almost no information on the game's content right now; we are merely placing things because we saw them in trailers, which we've said time and again are NOT a valid source for information. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 18:21, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
::::::Right, what ''should'' be on here is the information from the interviews, which is confirmed information that we have.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 20:58, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
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 :::::I honestly don't understand why we have ANY ''Kingdom Hearts III'' articles on this Wiki aside from the actual game's page. There is almost no information on the game's content right now; we are merely placing things because we saw them in trailers, which we've said time and again are NOT a valid source for information. - {{User:EternalNothingnessXIII/Sig}} 18:21, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
 ::::::Right, what ''should'' be on here is the information from the interviews, which is confirmed information that we have.  --{{User:Neumannz/SigTemplate}} 20:58, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
-:The only reason I created the Kingdom of Corona page was because back when La Cite des Cloches was revealed for KH3D, a page was made for it immediately. I figured that it wasn't going against any policies. If we decide to keep the page, should it be locked until the game's release? {{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 06:57, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
-:I am absolutely not okay with having a table here. ''That'' crosses the line into assuming (1) that material only shown in trailers and not confirmed in interviews is set in stone, which is wildly inaccurate, and (2) that we clearly understand the mechanics of what we're seeing in the trailer, which is wildly-er inaccurate.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 13:17, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
-::Well i guess this is fine and i only added the table to make the article more full. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 16:17, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
-The page looks better now, although the image captions should maybe be changed to show that the names aren't official. I think we can keep the article now, but I would suggest that we don't make pages about KH3 things, until we have enough information, or else start it in userspace. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 18:24, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
-:Fair enough. {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 18:27, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
-That's not correct, there are official names. During the E3 presentation Nomura and Yasue gave an interview also featuring the Attraction Flow ([http://www.famitsu.com/news/201506/17081070.html Original], [http://gematsu.com/2015/06/tetsuya-nomura-tai-yasue-talk-kingdom-hearts-iii-unchained-chi-e3 Translation]) and there were follow-up interviews both in the [http://www.khinsider.com/news/Famitsu-Scans-of-Kingdom-Hearts-3-5613 Famitsu] and Dengeki ([http://www.khinsider.com/news/Scans-of-Kingdom-Hearts-3-from-Dengeki-Online-5637 Original], [http://www.khinsider.com/news/KH3-Nomura-Interview-with-Dengeki-Mt-Olympus-Happy-Ending-Post-KH3-Direction-Undecided-5661 Translation]). The three known attractions are: {{nihongo|'''Teacups'''|コーヒーカップ|Kōhī Kappu}}, {{nihongo|'''Roller Coaster'''|ローラーコースター|Rōrā Kōsutā}} and {{nihongo|'''Viking Ship'''|バイキングシップ|Baikingu Shippu}}. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 20:19, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
-:Then why have you not put it on the page yet? {{User:Byzantinefire/Sig}} 21:19, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
-::Shouldn't コーヒーカップ (Kōhī Kappu) be "Coffee Cup", though? {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 06:47, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
-:::It is, but not in the sense of the amusement ride. At least that's what jisho is telling me. --{{User:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 08:52, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
-Regarding Rocket Ruckus, it's a Link Attack. not an Attraction. [[User:Kingdom210|Kingdom210]] ([[User talk:Kingdom210|talk]]) 23:49, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
-== English names ==
-I am out of it, but when did they name the tea cup one? In a interview or article? It wasnt named in the E3's trailer. "Pirate Ship" and "Magic Mountain" names where shown off in the D23 trailer as the Command Window for them. {{User:UnknownChaser/Sig}} 22:41, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
-:Yeah, I don't recall ever seeing the official name, someone may have just used the name of that Magic Kingdom ride as a placeholder. {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}} 22:56, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
-== Starting to suspect ==
-That this has been axed. There's no indication of it whatsoever in the recent trailers. Can we find a cite for the authors specifically stating it will be in KH3?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:57, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
-:[https://www.khinsider.com/news/Roundtable-Chat-with-Tetsuya-Nomura-at-E3-2015-5582 KHInsider - Roundtable Interview]. I don't know if they've axed it, but at least two years ago, Nomura sounded pretty set on having it there. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 04:12, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
-::Awesome, that cite works. We should add it to the article.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 04:15, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
-== Slight name change ==
-Page should be renamed/move to simply "Attractions", as the final game doesn't anywhere include Flow. --[[User:Samoa Joe|Samoa Joe]] ([[User talk:Samoa Joe|talk]]) 17:39, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
-:Done. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 17:43, 5 February 2019 (UTC)