Editing KHWiki talk:The Keyblade War

Just wondering, how exactly were the participants chosen?[[User:KrytenKoro|(ಠ_ೃ)]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>Bully!</small>]] 14:30, October 11, 2010 (UTC)
:I've been pinging IRC admins recently to revise the list, and we've been cycling participants in and out until we found a list we could all agree with. Once I get a final draft to you and another admin, I'll post it, so that any other necessary changes can be made accordingly. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 22:54, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

==Really?==
I'm trying not to sound like an ass here, but is this just another attempt by DTN to prove the MA to be pointless?  Are you trying to draw attention away from the MA and the upcoming Joint Struggle? [[Special:Contributions/24.123.83.62|24.123.83.62]] 16:10, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think Mirage Arena is pointless. It's made for fun, so just enjoy it. [[User:17master|17master]] 16:13, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

1) Who are you? 2) How does this make the Mirage Arena pointless? It's only going to last for a couple of months, then its over. If anything, the Mirage Arena makes this pointless, but either way the're just fun contests.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}16:19, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

Dammit, this makes it look like I did, doesn't it.  And, to make me look ''even'' guiltier, I kinda have to agree with the anon.  Isn't DTN always saying that we are to preoccupied with community events?  Oh, and are there even 128 characters to choose from?  Are we going to have to use some Heartless?  {{The Inexistentsig}}
:I helped planned last year's year-end celebratory event, so I went ahead and took charge on this one. This is also not at all geared toward shaming the Mirage Arena, because (1) the Mirage Arena has fixed its initial issues I had with it, and I now actively participate in it, and (2) well, this is just a comment, but that's one heck of an over-generalization. And ''yes'', there are 128 characters to choose from. More in fact, we had a good field of up to 170-200 to select from, not including Heartless. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 22:54, October 11, 2010 (UTC)

==What is this exactly?==
{{WS|time=17:30, October 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=I mean, how does it work? and how do you join? :D }}

{{CaelumLucisCaliga|time=22:39, October 11, 2010 (UTC)|skinny=AHH!!! I CAN'T WAIT!!!!! :D}}
{{DTN|time=22:54, October 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=This is a community event that is just for fun, so any ''registered'' user can participate. Voting begins October 15.}}
{{ST|text=@Wh!te$tar, the way I see it, it's exactly like the Mirage Arena, only with a crapload of participants in a tournament setting}}
{{WS|time=02:33, October 12, 2010 (UTC)|text=Okay. I'm gonna try getting my edit count up that way I can actually vote! :D}}
{{LapisScarab|time=02:37, October 12, 2010 (UTC)|text=@Wh!te$tar: Your editcount doesn't matter for this event, only for the Mirage Arena. That's because The Keyblade War is a relatively short end-of-the-year blowout, and the Mirage Arena is meant to last much longer. The Arena needs an minimum number of edits because otherwise people would start registering just to participate in it and distract from the mainspace (which has already happened and its not something we want).}}
{{ZexionFan321|time=20:36, October 14, 2010 (UTC)|xemnas=Like the Magicite Madness on the FF wiki will this happen every year?}}
{{LapisScarab|time=01:08, October 15, 2010 (UTC)|text=Unlikely. It's an end of the year celebration, and we pick a different one of those every year.}}

==Voting==
So, is this just gonna be in the same style of voting as the MA? {{User:Chitalian8/Sig}}

Yeah, seriously.  DTN just posted somethign about voting... but I still don't get how to vote.  {{The Inexistentsig}}

==Maleficent vs. Lady Tremaine==
{{ZexionFan321|time=02:42, October 15, 2010 (UTC)|xemnas=They are not on the battle bracket thing.}}

==Bracket Contest==
Is anyone planning on running a March-Madness like bracket prediction contest?  [[User:Xalxe]]

== Where do we vote? ==

umm seriously, where do we put our votes?!!!!
[[User:Roxas pwns sora47|Roxas pwns sora47]] 22:27, October 15, 2010 (UTC)Roxas_pwns_sora

== Where,oh where... ==

What to press to vote for Aqua?

== HOW DO WE VOTE!?! ==

seriously, people, I have NO idea how to vote and I want to get my votes in for the first two brackets before they close!!! SOMEONE HELP!!!

1) Sign your posts with four tildes (like this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). 2) Just edit the section of each match that says "Votes for Blah Blah". For example, if you want to vote for Phil, click to edit the section that says "Votes for Phil". When you're in the edit window, just add your vote to the bottom of the section.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}01:40, October 19, 2010 (UTC)

Huh? Is voting time for the two first KHI matchups already over? Cuz I can't edit a vote in...it says the page is locked...? [[User:Sephiroth0812|Sephiroth0812]] 15:13, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

==Bad Matchups==
I pretty sure that some people noticed that there are bad matchups against other characters. Come on, everyone knows that the 'Queen of Hearts VS. Sora' battle, Sora's going to win. Couldn't the people who created this have picked better Matchups that aren't one-sided? Are they ''trying'' to make certain characters lose? {{User:Keyblade0/Sig}}
:That's the point. Predictable matches are predictable. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 21:32, October 20, 2010 (UTC)
::To be fair, a randomizer was used to select all the sets. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 23:30, October 20, 2010 (UTC)

== Champion bracket ==

At the end of the tournament, is there going to be a championship bracket? Because there is going to be 16 champions, which is enough to make a bracket. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 22:14, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

{{Hangon|time=22:21, October 25, 2010 (UTC)|happy=I think It's an awesome idea, I have'nt been on Mirage arena so I'm looking at that!}}

== Moving on? ==

It is Friday so shouldn't we move on to the mixed brackets? This is the third week, so the [[Forum:The Keyblade War - Round One, KH1 Bracket A|KH1 bracket]][[Forum:The Keyblade War - Round One, KH1 Bracket B|s]] should close and make way for the [[Forum:The Keyblade War - Round One, MIX Bracket A|Mixed]] [[Forum:The Keyblade War - Round One, MIX Bracket B|brackets]]. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 13:32, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

We'll just have to wait for the admins to open the next two brackets {{User:17master/Sign}}

==Pongo & Perdita VS Ansem the Wise==
I think we need to change that fight. I don't know how to format two different pictures in the same half of the box. EDIT: I made that harder than it needed to be, but it's fixed now.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}00:31, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

:Wuh-Oh, I also just noticed that in the KHI Bracket A, Tidus and Clayton tied. What do we do about that?{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}00:40, October 30, 2010 (UTC)
::Oh, and someone will need to take care of the little story excerpt at the top of the Brackets. I've got nothing for those.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}01:56, October 30, 2010 (UTC)
:::I'll add those story bits, and probably fiddle with the colors and image size parameters too. Thanks bunches, Lapis. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 05:22, October 30, 2010 (UTC)
:In the match between Tidus and Clayton, we really messed up because Tidus had one vote more than Clayton but Clayton moved up. That mistake is even harder to fix because round 2 is here and people are already voting for Clayton. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 00:17, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
::Aw, man! I wanted Tidus to win. Bring me the head of the one responsible! ;) <span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span>]][[User_talk:Soxra|<span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span>]][[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 04:35, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

They were tied. I would assume the winner was selected with a randomizer.{{USer:LapisScarab/Sig}}05:42, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

==SeanWheeler and the Opening of the Brackets==
{{LapisScarab|time=22:50, November 19, 2010 (UTC)|shocktext=Okay, can we give out warnings for users opening the brackets early like a certain [[User:SeanWheeler|Mr. Wheeler]] did on the grounds that "they seem open", whatever that's supposed to mean. ''Immediately'' after he did this, several users began voting (particularly [[User talk:Laurxafinal|Laurxafinal]], who was flat-out ignoring messages on her talk page to stop, something I ordinarily would have already given her a warning for). I repeatedly, ''repeatedly'' told the users who were voting to stop in edit summaries, but they're either not seeing them or just ignoring them. This is supposed to be fun and I really don't want to have to punish people over this, but you have ''no idea'' how much this pissed me off. It was a blatant disregard of simple rules and honestly really bratty impatience on SeanWheeler's part. I've given up trying to remove the votes since it's gotten to around five users just ignoring me, but if this happens again I want to know if I can give out warnings. Ugh...}}
{{DTN|time=23:56, November 19, 2010 (UTC)|text=We don't have to be so critical when the warnings and being applied in regards to an event occurring on a social section of the wiki. However, this definitely disrupted the process, and users ignoring messages to continue getting in the way of this process is very close to the definition of ''vandalism''. Since this needed clearing up, I don't think any warnings need to be given, but in the future, I see no problem with taking such action.}}

{{TalkSephiroth0812|text= Ok then, DTN, does that mean I can start casting votes on these Brackets now or will they be restarted? I've had a longer conversation with LapisScarab since I didn't know that they were opened prematurely, but then refrained from voting any further since the situation is unclear.}}

Sorry for countinuesly voting, I just went on my talk page, and when will voting start?--[[User:Laurxafinal|Laurxafinal]] 01:36, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

:I am also sorry for opening them prematurely. Next time the brackets would open later than usual, I would wait. By the way, what needed to be fixed before they open? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 23:17, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

::There were no edits from the "No voting yet" period until they were opened. The point was that they had not been opened by someone in charge, therefore they were still subject to being changed or reconfirmed. <span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span>]][[User_talk:Soxra|<span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span>]][[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 02:14, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

== Mah Votes! ==

Where did they go??? [[User:Xalxe|Xalxe]] 10:55, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

{{TalkSephiroth0812|text= Probably rescinded, cuz the current brackets were opened by someone who didn't had the right to do so...I'm afraid you have to re-vote.}}

Yeah, sorry about that. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 23:19, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

== Most random OCD thing ever ==

Am I the only one who sees Even's name as <nowiki><s></nowiki>[[Even]]? I was going to correct it myself but after all the stress the admins have endured Re:The Wheeler Catastrophe, I figured I best ask first. <span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span>]][[User_talk:Soxra|<span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span>]][[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 18:47, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

:I noticed that too, but I don't know how to fix it.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}19:19, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

::I'm pretty sure you just open the page, type back over the <nowiki><s></nowiki>, and re-save it. For some reason one of the edits replaced it with <nowiki>&amp;lt;s&amp;gt;</nowiki> (the HTML escaped version) so it appears as <nowiki><s></nowiki> but it's really escaped. <span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span>]][[User_talk:Soxra|<span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span>]][[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 20:37, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
:::OK, i'm not sure what the hell is wrong with it because i tried to fix it, it looked right in preview mode, but when i pressed the save button nothing had changed. i am thinking it's a bug--{{User:ShadowsTwilight/Sig}} 20:43, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

::::Looks like KrytenKoro figured it out; it was connected to an unmatching <nowiki></s></nowiki> tag at the end. Thanks, Kryten. <span style="font-weight: bold; text-shadow: 1px 1px 2px #000000;">[[ [[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">So</span>]][[User_talk:Soxra|<span style="color: #CC0000;">x</span>]][[User:Soxra|<span style="color: #FFC000;">ra</span>]] ]]</span> 21:58, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

== err ==

All brackets are subject to change. Please propose any changes on the talk page. DO NOT edit these brackets without first suggesting the change on the talk page! <-- shouldn't this be put in the beginning of the "brackets" section? I doubt some people will notice the message if its put under the entire bracket. {{User:17master/Sign}}

==Losers==
Will there be a "Second Chance" bracket(s) like in the Mirage Arena? [[File:Way to the Dawn KHII.png|20px]]'''<span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS">[[User:Chitalian8|<span style="color:#C00000;">Chitalian</span>]][[User talk:Chitalian8|<span style="color:3300FF;">8</span>]]</span>'''[[file:Wayward Wind KHBBS.png|20px]] 23:25, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
:No, that defeats the purpose of losing a battle, and does not fit into a tournament that is so crunched for time and so large as well.<!--In addition, I hate the idea of Second Chance battles. Ack.-->--{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 23:59, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Alrhough they would have gotten new comments that they didn't get before. but DTN is right. we have no time for that. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 14:25, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

==Waiting==
That was twice that I got in trouble for making the brackets move on just because it was a Friday. First I looked at the results and put in MIX brackets A and B (although DTN later called them Mixed). But the second time, which was last week, I opened the brackets, even though I don't have any authority on this wiki, just because I looked at the brackets and thought they were ready (Because their pages existed and I didn't see any errors). That edit caused a lot of people to vote and their votes had to be taken off. I learned my lesson. Now it maybe Friday and the new brackets may not be up yet, but I am not going to edit the project page. I'll just wait for DTN to put up the new brackets. I thought Thanksgiving would give him time, but I'll let him do it, so that I wouldn't be blocked for doing it three times. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 14:25, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

{{TalkSephiroth0812|text= That's nice, for the future, maybe you should keep in mind that this kind of projects often have specific persons in charge of moderating and maintaining it. Just because someone ''can'' edit it doesn't mean that one ''should'' edit it when it comes to mind. If the lesson is learned now we should all be able to work together more smoothly now...;) }}

Well, at least Maggosh is closing the round 2 brackets. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 22:06, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

{{TalkSephiroth0812|time=[[User:Sephiroth0812|Sephiroth0812]] 22:12, November 26, 2010 (UTC)|text=My, my, Sean, already getting impatient again...lol. Just what will you do when the keyblade war is over...???}}

:I don't know. I haven't really thought about it. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 22:23, November 26, 2010 (UTC)

{{Maggosh|flint=Restrain yourself, Sean. Or they'll have to glue you back together...IN HELL!

...I need a Demoman talk bubble.}}

== People voting before it opened ==

Why are people voting even though the brackets still say "Pending?" They should probably read it. I had to take some votes off. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 01:02, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

They probably just don't know what it means, but when is the Pending going to be over, anyway? [[User:Roxas pwns sora47|Roxas pwns sora47]] 06:01, November 27, 2010 (UTC)Roxas_pwns_sora47

They're just looking at the recent changes I suppose. Oasis skin is having a problem where edit summaries aren't showing up sometimes. I think maggosh will fully open the brackets after he opened the other 2 brackets (2 or 4, I can't remember) So please, wait patiently. {{User:17master/Sign}}

== Whoa, all brackets!? ==

Yesterday, Maggosh brought up only the BBS and KH1 brackets, but now, we are doing all the brackets in one week? And from the time that was delayed from voting, we are doing all the brackets in one week? Wow, that's insane! We are doing all the brackets in one week! Not alot of time though.... [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 01:11, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

{{TalkSephiroth0812|time=[[User:Sephiroth0812|Sephiroth0812]] 01:19, November 28, 2010 (UTC)|text= Not really that surprising considering there are only two matchups in each bracket left...ya know.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=01:22, November 28, 2010 (UTC)|text=Indeed, it's roughly the same number of matches as usual, if not less than that. The fact that there are so many individual brackets was part of the reason the voting is being delayed.}}

This is so exciting. I can't wait to vote in Round 3! [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 01:52, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

== Lack of stories ==

It seems that the lack of stories in each bracket might be the reason for this long wait. Do you need help with posting a prologue on top of the brackets? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 19:30, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

==When can we vote???==

When can we vote for round 3??? [[User:ANX219|ANX219]] 19:39, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

:Just speculating, but there's only 4 weeks of voting left, so they may want the last week to end on the 31st (since it falls on a Friday) which would mean if they delay it a week, there will be exactly 4 weeks until the 31st. As I said, just speculation, but it's a feasible reason. {{User:Soxra/Sig}} 16:21, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

{{TalkSephiroth0812|time=[[User:Sephiroth0812|Sephiroth0812]] 16:36, November 29, 2010 (UTC)|text=Really? Aren't it 5 rounds of voting if one counts in the finale? 32,16,8,4,2?
Either way, I just assumed the responsible ones just haven't got that much time on hand...}}
::Argh, you're right. I miscounted. {{User:Soxra/Sig}} 16:42, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
:Seriously, when can we vote? It is already Monday. There is no time to wait. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 20:15, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

{{TalkSephiroth0812|time=[[User:Sephiroth0812|Sephiroth0812]] 20:21, November 29, 2010 (UTC)|text=As it looks now we'll have no choice but to wait. We don't know what's going on. But Real Life should always coming first.
I'm actually a very patient guy...but if we still have no clear message on Wednesday even I might get somewhat worried...;) 
Just don't go and take it in your own hands again, 'kay. I'll doubt Maggosh or DTN would find that very funny...}}
:If nothing's happened by tomorrow when I get home I'm going to message DTN and ask if he wants someone to set them up for him... {{User:Soxra/Sig}} 00:56, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

== I just have to say... ==

That picture of all the finalists is really awesome. [[User:Naminé and Roxas Forever|Naminé and Roxas Forever]]

Can only second this...I'm pondering making it my desktop wallpaper...{{User:Sephiroth0812/Autosig}} 12:00, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

==Opening==
Yes!!! The REAL battle begins!!!
{{User:ANX219/Sig}} 
16:24, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

==Card Pic==
{{LightRoxas|ven=I wanna make a talk bubble using one of the card images, where can I find them?}}

{{Superdog1123|time=05:25, December 10, 2010 (UTC)|lea=I have the same question.}}

{{Soxra|ienzo=The card images are from the characters' respective articles, following the same background pattern. Not too difficult to make with Photoshop and a few minutes.

As for the images themselves, they're hosted on KingdomKeyDarkside's PhotoBucket account externally.|time={{User:Soxra/Sig}} 05:31, December 10, 2010 (UTC)}}

{{KKD|time=15:27, December 10, 2010 (UTC)|link=Yeaah, I was the one who made those. DTN asked me to. Anyway, if you want to use them, go ahead. Unless, of course, you want another one, which I'd be glad to make.}}

So, why not upload them here? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] 22:47, December 14, 2010 (UTC)

Image policy. [[User:KingdomKeyDarkside|KingdomKeyDarkside]] 01:09, December 15, 2010 (UTC)

==I know I should be able to vote, but...==
Why won't the edit buttons show up for me?  I can't vote!--Have you ever had the urge to do something incredibly stupid... and AWESOME? 00:33, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

{{Chitalian8|time=00:39, December 9, 2010 (UTC)|hane= Your account is not yet 4 days old, that's when you are able to edit.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=00:49, December 9, 2010 (UTC)|text=Sign your comments with four tildes, like this <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>. And that's because you haven't been autoconfirmed; wait a few days like Chitalian said and you'll be able to edit semi-locked pages.}}

== Congratulating the champion ==

We are at the final battle, and so far [[Aqua]] is beating [[Riku]] by a landslide. If Aqua wins, will there be a forum congratulating her? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]]

I agree. I think we could tell everyone that voted for Aqua thank you. [[User:ANX219|ANX219]]

== Just wondering ==

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{{Soxra|ienzo=I don't think the 3rd place match has an edit count limit. Those rules are for the Mirage Arena, and this is a TKW fight. Other users (one with 34 edits) have been allowed to vote, so I'm pretty sure it's not edit-count limited.|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=6:52pm, December 24, 2010 (UTC)}}}}
{{JFHavoc|time=18:54, December 24, 2010 (UTC)|text=Soxra is correct. Those rules are restricted to Mirage Arena matches. If you've been voting in the Keyblade War all this time you're still permitted to vote on the 3rd place match.}}
{{SilverCrono|time=18:56, December 24, 2010 (UTC)|text=Y'know, or you guys could just edit the mainspace. >.>}}
{{Maggosh|flint=I said it once and I'll say it again; if those rules were in place for TKW, that 9 Sock incident would never have happened. But no one listens to Ol' maggosh, do they... ;_;}}
{{Soxra|roxas=The entire outcome would also have been different. Besides, we fixed the sockpuppet incident without '''too''' much hassle (since the outcome was the same anyway), so it's just water over the dam.|time={{User:Soxra/Sig|t=7:00pm, December 24, 2010 (UTC)}}}}
{{Chitalian8|time=19:04, December 24, 2010 (UTC)|beat= @Soxra, Never heard that one before. But honestly, I'm glad with the big turnout of TKW, the Mirage Arena is already pretty much a regular-editor-exclusive thing.}}
{{Maggosh|flint=@Soxra: You mean water under the bridge. A bridge which is big. A big bridge where there are battles.

...it is morphing time!}}