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With KrytenKoro leaving the KHWiki and Neumannz being MIA for a year now, I think the time is as good as any to talk about staff and revising it. The community has talked about this in the past, but since we're so busy in RL and updating articles on the mainspace, we never gotten quite to it. While I wanted to wait until it was properly discussed, Porplemontage promoted me to bcrat. From our existing pool of active users/staff members, I think it's time for the community to reelect new staff members since so many users are inactive. I've been mean to bring this up, but as | With KrytenKoro leaving the KHWiki and Neumannz being MIA for a year now, I think the time is as good as any to talk about staff and revising it. The community has talked about this in the past, but since we're so busy in RL and updating articles on the mainspace, we never gotten quite to it. While I wanted to wait until it was properly discussed, Porplemontage promoted me to bcrat. From our existing pool of active users/staff members, I think it's time for the community to reelect new staff members since so many users are inactive. I've been mean to bring this up, but as KeybladeSpyMaster was also an admin before leaving due to RL circumstances, and seeing as KSM has returned and has been consistently editing since his return and his excellent conduct, I've been meaning to request that he'll be reinstated as an admin.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 23:08, 1 February 2018 (UTC) | ||
:I agree that we should consider new staff elections. I won't count on me, because that'll be up to everyone else, but we definitely need people that will be here or can be here if needed. If we're considering an additional bureaucrat (I think we should regardless of whether or not Neumannz chooses to stay as one), I would suggest TheSilentHero, who has done excellent work on this wiki and has especially helped fight some users who think spamming or sockpuppetry is okay. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 01:02, 2 February 2018 (UTC) | :I agree that we should consider new staff elections. I won't count on me, because that'll be up to everyone else, but we definitely need people that will be here or can be here if needed. If we're considering an additional bureaucrat (I think we should regardless of whether or not Neumannz chooses to stay as one), I would suggest TheSilentHero, who has done excellent work on this wiki and has especially helped fight some users who think spamming or sockpuppetry is okay. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 01:02, 2 February 2018 (UTC) | ||
:'''EDIT:''' Also, may I suggest once this discussion is over, that we archive this talk page. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} | :'''EDIT:''' Also, may I suggest once this discussion is over, that we archive this talk page. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} | ||
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:Until Neumannz gets back, I say we leave his position/status alone. This is both formality and being polite. In regards to nominations: Personally, I thought that KSM was already an admin...Definitely up for having KSM and Shard move up to admin status. B-crat, I think any of the three [Hero, KSM, Shard] deserve it. Obviously three are perhaps excessive, but these guys seriously deserve and could use it. Just to clear the air, is this solely for admin/b-crat positions or are we revamping the mod spots as well? {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 02:06, 3 February 2018 (UTC) | :Until Neumannz gets back, I say we leave his position/status alone. This is both formality and being polite. In regards to nominations: Personally, I thought that KSM was already an admin...Definitely up for having KSM and Shard move up to admin status. B-crat, I think any of the three [Hero, KSM, Shard] deserve it. Obviously three are perhaps excessive, but these guys seriously deserve and could use it. Just to clear the air, is this solely for admin/b-crat positions or are we revamping the mod spots as well? {{User:Xion4ever/Sig}} 02:06, 3 February 2018 (UTC) | ||
::::::KSM was an admin before leaving the KHWiki temporarily due to RL circumstances. He came back recently and began contributing on a daily basis, but no proposal was made to reinstate him as admin until the topic was brought up. THS and SoT are both admins, as well. Again, I don't know if three bracts are necessary. A bcrat and an admin aren't that different from each other, and the only that really distinguish them is the a bcrat can change user rights, something we needed since so many of staff members are MIA. That being said, I'm going to contact Neumz about this discussion. Over a year is a long time to be off the KHWiki, I think. We should also discuss the mods, as well. Out of the four, I typically see Chainoffire and TheFifteenthMember the most in the RC, but I don't see Chitalian8 around very much, though I see him from time to time. I haven't seen Troisnyxetienne in a while.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:20, 3 February 2018 (UTC) | ::::::KSM was an admin before leaving the KHWiki temporarily due to RL circumstances. He came back recently and began contributing on a daily basis, but no proposal was made to reinstate him as admin until the topic was brought up. THS and SoT are both admins, as well. Again, I don't know if three bracts are necessary. A bcrat and an admin aren't that different from each other, and the only that really distinguish them is the a bcrat can change user rights, something we needed since so many of staff members are MIA. That being said, I'm going to contact Neumz about this discussion. Over a year is a long time to be off the KHWiki, I think. We should also discuss the mods, as well. Out of the four, I typically see Chainoffire and TheFifteenthMember the most in the RC, but I don't see Chitalian8 around very much, though I see him from time to time. I haven't seen Troisnyxetienne in a while.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 21:20, 3 February 2018 (UTC) | ||
:::::::NinjaShiek is right on potentially removing Neumannz. Our [[KHWiki:Staff | :::::::NinjaShiek is right on potentially removing Neumannz. Our [[KHWiki:Staff Policy|Staff Policy]] says, "'''Undeclared Inactivity''' is the scenario under which a staff member leaves or does not edit for an extended period of time (at least 4 months) without notice." Now, the first thing we're supposed to do is notify the inactive staff member, and it seems to give a two month period before we take the move ourselves to just remove him, so I'd wait. Hence, I think that for now, we put three bureaucrats for now, two new ones + Nezzy. That way, if he chooses to stay, we still give him, and everyone else, the leeway to not feel pressured all the time to be here, and still have sufficient staff regularly on site. And if he chooses to leave and retire, well, we have two bureaucrats here already. | ||
:::::::Speaking of the policy, we need to edit it so that it adds that all staff promotions are to be determined/approved by the community's vote. This is what was wrong when ENX asked for his rights back in 2015; we always do these things via election and community consent, but that wasn't stated in the policy. So I want to make sure this is okay before I add it. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 07:07, 5 February 2018 (UTC) | :::::::Speaking of the policy, we need to edit it so that it adds that all staff promotions are to be determined/approved by the community's vote. This is what was wrong when ENX asked for his rights back in 2015; we always do these things via election and community consent, but that wasn't stated in the policy. So I want to make sure this is okay before I add it. {{KeybladeSpyMaster/Sig}} 07:07, 5 February 2018 (UTC) | ||
::::::::[[User talk:Neumannz#Staff Status|I have contacted Neumannz on his talk page]], so about we give him a couple of weeks to reply? | ::::::::[[User talk:Neumannz#Staff Status|I have contacted Neumannz on his talk page]], so about we give him a couple of weeks to reply? | ||
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:Yeah, sounds good. It doesn't really seem like any of the users previously recommended are very active anymore on the KHWiki, though. Setting up a page for requests for janitor rights is a good idea.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:36, 4 May 2018 (UTC) | :Yeah, sounds good. It doesn't really seem like any of the users previously recommended are very active anymore on the KHWiki, though. Setting up a page for requests for janitor rights is a good idea.--{{User:NinjaSheik/Sig}} 20:36, 4 May 2018 (UTC) | ||
::All right. I promoted Kryten, and made a page for the janitor rights (someone should improve it, because I'm really bad at writing stuff like this). I've set a requirement of 100 edits before they can request them, so we don't have every new user requesting them, if that's okay with everybody. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 10:10, 5 May 2018 (UTC) | ::All right. I promoted Kryten, and made a page for the janitor rights (someone should improve it, because I'm really bad at writing stuff like this). I've set a requirement of 100 edits before they can request them, so we don't have every new user requesting them, if that's okay with everybody. {{User:TheSilentHero/Sig}} 10:10, 5 May 2018 (UTC) | ||
== Temporary break == | == Temporary break == | ||
{{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=03:01, 6 May 2018 (UTC)|sad=Hey all. Wanted to let you know that I'm taking a temporary break here, starting today. My computer has finally given out earlier this afternoon, and with no apparent fix and no way I'm getting a new computer any time soon. I'll still be able to get on site on my phone, and occasionally borrow a computer, but for the most part, I don't think I'll be able to promise a consistent check-in or activity here. If I'm needed, best form of contact is either the wiki's Discord server, the KHUX party's Messenger group, or via talk page (I get an alert via email, as all do). I should be able to work out getting the next episode of the wiki's podcast up here in the next week, and that'll be it until I can afford to buy a new computer. Sorry guys.}} | {{KeybladeSpyMaster|time=03:01, 6 May 2018 (UTC)|sad=Hey all. Wanted to let you know that I'm taking a temporary break here, starting today. My computer has finally given out earlier this afternoon, and with no apparent fix and no way I'm getting a new computer any time soon. I'll still be able to get on site on my phone, and occasionally borrow a computer, but for the most part, I don't think I'll be able to promise a consistent check-in or activity here. If I'm needed, best form of contact is either the wiki's Discord server, the KHUX party's Messenger group, or via talk page (I get an alert via email, as all do). I should be able to work out getting the next episode of the wiki's podcast up here in the next week, and that'll be it until I can afford to buy a new computer. Sorry guys.}} | ||