Editing KHWiki:Project Enemy/DESIGN

;We need someone to go through and make sure every enemy article has a design section, which should cover the appearance of the enemy, and the etymology of its name.

==Signup==
For any of you who decide to help - thank you in advance.

;DESIGN
*[[User:The Inexistent|The Inexistent]] 23:26, May 16, 2010 (UTC)The_Inexistent
*{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}20:52, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
*{{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 03:20, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
*{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 03:50, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
*{{AurorSig}}I hope I have enough edits to partake.
*{{Dan da Man36|1}} 09:29, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
*[[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 04:43, August 6, 2010 (UTC)

==Discussion==
What LS did at [[Shadow#Design|Shadow]] looks perfect to me. Does anyone else have any comments or critiques?[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 03:42, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
:It works for me; short and simple but detailed.  Just bear in mind some etymologies <s>may</s> will get much more complicated.  And I assume if the Japanese version of the name is different, it would be appropriate to comment on that name as well? {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 03:47, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
::Certainly.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 04:29, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
:::I've gone ahead and split this one off into it's own [[Forum:Heartless Design Revamp|forum thread]] so we don't clog this one with organizational bits and pieces. {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 02:50, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

{{BebopKate|time=02:49, May 18, 2010 (UTC)|text=Alright, guys.  Since we have quite a few volunteers for this project, I thought I'd just go ahead and pull it out of [[Forum:Enemy Infobox revamp|here]] and make a new topic for it. As a reminder of what we're doing ...}}

'''We need someone to go through and make sure every enemy article has a design section, which should cover the appearance of the enemy, and the etymology of its name. (DESIGN)'''

{{BebopKate|time=02:49, May 18, 2010 (UTC)|text=I'm thinking, similar to other similar projects, we need to make a list of who's doing what.  I have a couple of ideas of how we can divide this up to make it easier for everyone:

1. Enemies by World - There's going to be a bit of overlap here, since some critters appear in more than one area, but there are also quite a few unique to their areas, enough that dividing it this way is not going to confuse everyone greatly.

2. Enemies by Game - So far, that would be ''Kingdom Hearts'', ''Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories'', et. al.  My only concern is some people might feel a bit overwhelmed, unless a couple of us tackled each game at a time.

3. Enemies by Type - We have a few established Heartless-types, the black mage-esque ones being perhaps the most prominent.  If someone wanted to snag all the Shadow-types, Soldier-types, etc, that could work.

4. A couple work on etymology, the others work on description - Just another idea to split the load.

So, my designing <s>women</s> friends, any input?}}

{{LapisScarab|time=02:57, May 18, 2010 (UTC)|inverse=I tend to be kind of haphazard in selecting the sections, and I already finished several that I haven't put up here yet. The ones I've finished so far are the <s>[[Darkball]], [[Gigas Shadow]], [[Mega-Shadow]], [[White Mushroom]], [[Black Fungus]], [[Rare Truffle]], [[Pink Agaricus]], [[Black Ballade]], and [[Blue Rhapsody]]</s>. Other than those, which I'll get up either today or tomorrow, I can take the Kingdom Hearts II Heartless if we orgnanize it by game. Though any way we organize it is fine with me. EDIT:'Kay, got those guys up.}}

Hey- I'll volunteer for enemies by type and etemology.  [[User:The Inexistent|The Inexistent]] 20:48, May 18, 2010 (UTC)The Inexistent

{{BebopKate|time=23:07, May 18, 2010 (UTC)|text=Sounds like a good start.  Lapis, if you'll take the ''KH2'' Heartless, I'll snag the ones from the original game.  That leaves ''CoM'' & ''Re:CoM'' (the few that exist), ''358/2 Days'', and the ''Final Mix+'' from the appropriate games.

Inexistent, do you want to tackle any specific types to start with?  Just realize there's probably going to be some overlap here and there.  And also, if anyone is unsure of a etymology or having issues with a description, feel free to tag another project member, of course!}}
{{KrytenKoro|For etymologies to wikipedia or final fantasy, please remember to use the interwiki linking code (Ex. <nowiki>[[finalfantasy:article|article]]</nowiki>).}}
Just a quick suggestion about our progress section. I think it would be easier to organize it by the game the enemy was introduced in. That way, we won't be repeating a lot of the Heartless' names, and we can checkthem easily by looking at the Heartless navigation box.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}03:50, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

You make a valid point.  Sounds like a plan then. ^_^ {{User:BebopKate/Sig}} 04:18, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, I'd like to volunteer for filling in the etymology sections. Is what I did at [[Aquatank#Design|Aquatank]] okay? {{Dan da Man36|1}} 09:27, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Looks good to me {{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}20:40, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Count me in! {{User:No.1xemnas/sig}}5:54, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
{{LapisScarab|time=04:16, May 22, 2010 (UTC)|skinny=Be sure to put your signature on the sign-up above, No.1xemnas, and let us know what you want to help with! By the way, The [[Graveyard]] and [[Toy Soldier]] are giving me a little trouble. I can't tell where the Heartless emblem is on the Graveyard, and I don't remember in detail what the two of them looked in their alternate forms. If anyone could get images of the alternate forms and put them in the gallery, that would be great. I'll save them for last, and if we don't get images, I'll just check KHII.}}
{{Dan da Man36|time=11:23, May 22, 2010 (UTC)|happy=I have some images that should clear the confusion (sorry for the horrible quality):
*Graveyard front view: [http://s798.photobucket.com/albums/yy267/Dan_da_Man36/DSC00207.jpg] (That's a raven on the top, it got cut out, sorry ^_^)<br>
*Graveyard back view: [http://s798.photobucket.com/albums/yy267/Dan_da_Man36/DSC00208.jpg] (There's the emblem)<br>
*The Toy Soldier has the same Jack-o-lantern as the Graveyard: [http://s798.photobucket.com/albums/yy267/Dan_da_Man36/DSC00209.jpg]}}
{{LapisScarab|time=17:53, May 22, 2010 (UTC)|happytext=Thanks, and the quality is fine!}}
{{LapisScarab|time=02:59, May 23, 2010 (UTC)|text=I'm noticing that Heartless have a lot of common traits, despite how different they seem to look. Spherical heads that are usually dark-colored, yellow, circular eyes, jagged mouths, and some kind of curled antenna or horn. Just something I noticed. And on more constructive terms, does the [[Bolt Tower]] have a different Final Mix coloration?}}
{{BebopKate|time=05:50, May 23, 2010 (UTC)|text=Indeed, I've noticed that as well as I've been writing descriptions; in spite of the fact they can look so dissimilar at first glance, they still have a unified appearance because of those little traits.  Even ones without these immediately apparent will have them hidden somewhere; I'm particularly fond of the zig-zag filament in the Angel Star, for example, since it mirrors the standard Heartless jaw.

Come to think of it, the only ones with out the pointy jaws are the Mushrooms.  I'm sure that's not by accident.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=03:29, May 27, 2010 (UTC)|inverse=Okay, <s>finished the KHII enemies. I think I'll finish up the magic uing Heartless (Red Nocturne, etc.), and then</s> I guess I'll move on to Days Heartless. }}
{{LapisScarab|time=02:05, May 26, 2010 (UTC)|skinny=Something's just occurred to me. Should we make a design section for the Gummi ship enemies as well? We have pictures for most, if not all, of the KHII ones (albeit not all of them are great). Though we don't even have articles for the KHI enemies...}}
{{BebopKate|time=22:03, May 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=Ooo, good thought, Lapis.  I'll give them their own sections...}}
{{LapisScarab|time=23:04, May 31, 2010 (UTC)|text=Looking closer, I seem to have been grossly mistaken with the images. The U.F.O., Reaper's Wheel, Ring Tank, Hunter, Driller, Crawler, Cannon Ball, and Black Ghost all have decent images. The Core, Dragonfly, Grappler, Hunter X, Knight Head, and Mad Rider all need better ones. All others simply don't have images. Not to mention the fact that the KHI Gummi Enemies don't even have articles. I still think they should have design sections but it's looking like this is a project in its own right.}}

{{FinalMix|vanitas=To whom it may concern, I accidentally put my name under the design section when I wanted to sign up for the strategy part. I have already removed my name from this section. If anyone expected me to work on design, I sincerely apologise.}}
'Tis fine, FinalMix+. We have a good group together as it is.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}06:14, June 1, 2010 (UTC)


{{GU|text=Wait, are Unversed out of the picture until the official English release? I already did the Appearance of the Cursed Carriage. I don't mean to sound like a noob or anything. }}
{{BebopKate|time=22:27, June 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=Yeah, we really should wait on the Unversed until September; there will be name changes, and might be slight appearance changes between versions, like what happened with the Undead Pirates.

However, I'm not going to criticize work already done. ^_^}}

{{GU|text=Ah, I see. Well how's about this; I work on whichever ones I can for now, and go back and edit them come September. Unless, that is a problem of course. I have no problem backing off if it causes trouble for the site or staff.}}
{{Dan da Man36|time=20:29, June 8, 2010 (UTC)|lion=About the Artful Flyer, Sky Grappler, Air Battler and Aerial Master's names being references to academic degrees, the only thing I can find so far is the "[[wikipedia:Master's degree|Master's degree]]"... I don't really think it's enough for an etymology...}}
::In Japanese, they are the "Air Butler", "Aerial Master", and "Flying Arts" (grappler is it's own thing).
:::Oh, wait. "Butler" isn't an alternative name for Bachelor's like I thought it was. Never mind.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 02:51, June 9, 2010 (UTC)
{{LapisScarab|time=15:37, June 10, 2010 (UTC)|skinny=I think the Dustflier's name may be a reference to meteors, because of its meteor breath, which would make its Japanese name "Debrisflow" make more sensede, but I'm not too sure.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=05:32, June 11, 2010 (UTC)|inverse=I do believe I finished the Days Heartless (minus a couple of etymologies). Think now I'll go back and get the Final Mix appearances for the KHII Heartless that ShardofTruth uploaded. What should I do after that?}}
{{Dan da Man36|time=20:57, June 11, 2010 (UTC)|lion=I have a bit of spare time now, as I only have a couple of exams left, so over the next few days, I'll be combing through etymologies. Oh, and if anyone notices a Heartless that has a Design section, but is lacking an etymology, could you please add " - needs etymology" next to its name on the list? Thanks! =D}}
:Um. Some of the etymologies, especially the KHIIFM ones, need quite a bit of editing.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 01:55, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
::I've scanned through most of the etymologies, and I've reworded a few. Are there any other ones that need doing? {{Dan da Man36|1}} 09:35, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

{{The Inexistent|text='''Wow, are we, like, done?  Now what, do we wait to do the Unversed?'''}}
{{LapisScarab|time=19:44, June 13, 2010 (UTC)|text=I still have the remaining Final Mix and Boss Heartless to do, but those should be finished by tomorrow at the latest.}}
{{KrytenKoro|Please remember to be covering the Japanese names in the etymologies.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=03:06, June 15, 2010 (UTC)|inverse=Just a couple of etymologies left. Also, could someone else get the World of Chaos's description?}}
{{Auror Andrachome|text=Wow the progress is going great!}}
{{LapisScarab|time=04:55, June 15, 2010 (UTC)|text=By the way, I'm prepariing descriptions for Unversed for when we start on them, so once BBS comes out we can get started again quickly.}}

{{KrytenKoro|By the way, Design should go BEFORE Story, as on the Shadow page.}}

==Status Update==
{{BebopKate|time=20:38, June 11, 2010 (UTC)|text=Okay, the way things appear to me:

*''Kingdom Hearts'': Basic enemy descriptions done, some bosses need filling in, some etymology needed.
*''CoM''/''Re:CoM'': Done.
*''Kingdom Hearts II'': Done.
*''Final Mixes'': ''Kingdom Hearts II'' descriptions done, some etymology needed. ''Kingdom Heart'' descriptions partially done, some etymology needed.
*''358/2 Days'': Descriptions done, some etymology needed.
*Gummy Enemies and ''Birth by Sleep'': On hold due to lack of info.

It really doesn't look like there's much more to go here.  So if someone would like to fill in the missing stuff this weekend or in the upcoming week, we should have this all wrapped up!  Great work, guys! ^_^}}

{{GU|text=Does the Sneak Army need etymology and design? I could handle that. }}
{{GU|text=Oh, and what Days enemies need etymology? }}
{{LapisScarab|time=03:36, June 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=Just as an update, I have descriptions prepared for all of the Unversed except for the Trinity Armor. As for the Sneak Army, go for it, GrandUnversed.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=14:01, June 25, 2010 (UTC)|text=So from what I can tell, the only non-Unversed and non-Gummi enemies we have left are the Sneak Army and the World of Chaos. Are we missing any others?}}
{{Dan da Man36|time=14:05, June 25, 2010 (UTC)|lion=I think so, and I promise I'll finish the etymologies as soon as my exams finish! ^_^}}
{{LapisScarab|time=01:42, July 6, 2010 (UTC)|text=Went and got the descritpion for the Sneak Army, improved the one for the Trickmaster, and started the one for the World of Chaos. None of 'em have etymologies. If someone wants to finish up the World of Chaos, be my guest, it's still missing the description of the battleship as a whole.}}
{{Dan da Man36|time=20:03, July 13, 2010 (UTC)|lion=I'm very, very, very, very, very sorry for delaying these etymologies for so long, I'll start on them now. Oh, and the [[Wyvern]] is lacking a proper design section.}}
{{KrytenKoro|I found the japanese name for the KH2 gummi ships, so those etymologies should be relooked at. Thanks!}}
{{LapisScarab|time=06:15, July 16, 2010 (UTC)|text=On the subject of the Unversed, unregistered contributors and other users are adding descriptions to them anyway, so maybe we should just get those out of the way. We can hold off on etymologies in anticipation of name changes, but the physical description of the enemies probably won't change much. Thoughts? EDIT:Okay, been I while since I brought this up. No opposition to me putting up the Unversed descriptions?}}
{{LapisScarab|time=18:22, August 4, 2010 (UTC)|text=All Unversed now have descriptions up, including Vanitas's Sentiment. Most lack etymologies, which I suppose we'll wait on.

So, I believe our progress as it stands now is<!--Feel free to correct this if I am mistaken anywhere.-->:

*''Kingdom Hearts'': Done.
*''CoM''/''Re:CoM'': Done.
*''Kingdom Hearts II'': Done.
*''Final Mixes'': Done.
*''358/2 Days'': Done.
*''Kingdom Hearts'' Gummi Enemies: On hold due to lack of info. (Every one of them appear to be named after a Final Fantasy summon, so I can handle the etymology for them when we finally get pages for 'em).
*''Kingdom Hearts II'' Gummi Enemies: Descriptions done, several etymologies needed.
*''Birth by Sleep'': Descriptions done. Etymology on hold due in anticipation of name changes.}}
{{Dan da Man36|time=18:39, August 4, 2010 (UTC)|lion=Awesome, I'll get to the gummi etymologies soon. Just one thing, the [[Wyvern]] is still lacking a proper design section, if someone could handle that, it would be great.}}
{{Maggosh|detroit=Hey guys, I don't mean to barge in, but on the topic of the Unversed etymologies; I've started to write them on my own [[User:Maggosh/Etymology|here]]. Keep in mind, these are still a work in progress, and, well, to put it simply, my goal is to make each of these the best as they possibly can, so they can be put right into the article's Design section. At this moment, I've written them for all of the Unversed save for the bosses.}}
{{Galexgan|time=05:23, August 6, 2010 (UTC)|terra2= Two things, 1st)I like the etymolygy Maggosh. Though I'm still probably a Nobody, and my word may mean nothing but, I say you did great on them. 
2)I have the game pre-ordered already and usually beat most games with (At most) the first two weeks so as soon as it comes out I can volunteer myself to help in any way possible on this project, if needed. It's probably a bit early to be saying that but I'm happy to help the wiki anyway I can.}}
{{LapisScarab|time=23:00, August 15, 2010 (UTC)|text=Suggestion. Obviously for bosses who are also actual characters (Saix, Luxord, Hades, etc.) we wouldn't give their bosspages design sections, it would be redundant to the Appearance section on their main page. But for characters who have multiple forms during boss fights (Xion, Xemnas, Marluxia, Maleficent etc.) I think we should contain the descriptions of the multiple forms on the respective boss pages. For example, what I did with the descriptions of Xion and Xemnas' various armored forms. Thoughts?}}

==Progress==
List critters in alphabetical order under each game.  For enemies that appear in more than one game, please make sure to list them under the first game they appear in.

===''Kingdom Hearts''===
'''Basic enemy descriptions are completed.'''

*Air Pirate
*Air Soldier
*Angel Star
*AntiSora
*Aquatank
*Bandit
*Barrel Spider
*Battleship
*Behemoth
*Bit Sniper
*Black Fungus
*Blue Rhapsody
*Bouncywild
*Cave of Wonders Guardian
*Chernabog
*Darkball
*Darkside - needs etymology
*Defender
*Fat Bandit
*Gargoyle
*Green Requiem
*Guard Armor/Opposite Armor
*Ice Titan
*Invisible
*Large Body
*Parasite Cage
*Phantom
*Pirate
*Pot Centipede
*Pot Spider
*Powerwild
*Rare Truffle
*Red Nocturne
*Rock Titan
*Screwdiver
*Sea Neon
*Search Ghost
*Shadow
*Shadow Blob
*Shadow Sora
*Sheltering Zone
*Soldier
*Stealth Sneak
*Trickmaster
*White Mushroom
*Wight Knight
*Wizard
*World of Chaos 
*Wyvern
*Yellow Opera

===''Kingdom Hearts'' Gummy Enemies===

===''Chain of Memories''/''Re:Chain of Memories''===
*Creeper Plant
*Crescendo
*Tornado Step

===''Kingdom Hearts II''===
*Aeroplane
*Aerial Knocker
*Armored Knight
*Assassin
*Assault Rider
*Berserker
*Blizzard Lord and Volcanic Lord
*Bolt Tower
*Bookmaster
*Bulky Vendor
*Cannon Gun
*Creeper
*Crimson Jazz
*Dancer
*Devastator
*Dragoon
*Driller Mole
*Dusk
*Emerald Blues
*The Experiment
*Firey Globe
*Fortuneteller
*Gambler
*Gargoyle Knight
*Gargoyle Warrior
*Graveyard
*Grim Reaper
*Groundshaker
*Hammer Frame
*Hook Bat
*Hostile Program
*Hot Rod
*Icy Cube
*Illuminator
*Lance Soldier
*Living Bone
*Luna Bandit
*Magnum Loader
*Minute Bomb
*Morning Star
*Nightwalker
*Possessor and Thresholder
*Prison Keeper
*Rabid Dog
*Rapid Thruster
*Samurai
*Shadow Stalker and Dark Thorn
*Shaman
*Silver Rock
*Sniper
*Sorcerer
*Storm Rider
*Strafer
*Surveillance Robot/Watcher
*Toy Soldier
*Trick Ghost
*Twilight Thorn
*Xemnas (Boss) - Dragon battleship needs description

===''Kingdom Hearts II'' Gummy Course Enemies===
*Bomb Bell
*Bomber
*Crawler
*Cruiser and Mini-Cruiser
*Cyclops
*Dragonfly
*Driller
*Gatling Ship
*Grappler
*Hex Ring <!--better Japanese etymology?-->
*Hunter
*Hunter X
*Knight Head
*Mad Rider
*Mega Tank
*Mystic Flyer - needs etymology
*Phoenix
*Pirate Ship
*Reaper's Wheel
*Ring Tank
*Shield
*Speeder
*Spider - needs Japanese etymology
*Spiked Roller - needs Japanese etymology
*Submarine
*Tank
*U.F.O. <!--better Japanese etymology?-->

===''Final Mix''es===
*Aerial Champ
*Air Viking
*Arch Behemoth
*Black Ballade
*Chimera
*Destroyed Behemoth
*Gigas Shadow
*Grand Ghost
*Iron Hammer
*Jet Balloon
*Lance Warrior
*Mad Bumper
*Magic Phantom
*Missile Diver
*Mushroom XIII
*Necromancer
*Neoshadow
*Pink Agaricus
*Pot Scorpion
*Perplex
*Reckless
*Red Armor
*Runemaster
*Silent Launcher
*Sneak Army
*Sniper Wild
*Spring Metal
*Stealth Soldier

===''358/2 Days''===
*Aerial Master 
*Air Battler
*Anti-Riku 
*Anti-Saix
*Antlion
*Artful Flyer
*Avalanche 
*Barrier Master
*Blitz Spear
*Blizzard Plant
*Bubble Beat
*Bully Dog
*Carrier Ghost
*Chill Ripper
*Clay Armor
*Commander
*Creepworm
*Crimson Prankster
*Cymbal Monkey
*Dark Follower
*Destroyer
*Detonator
*Dire Plant
*Dual Blade
*Dustflier
*Emerald Serenade
*Fire Plant
*Flare Note
*Grey Caprice
*Guardian
*Heat Saber
*Hover Ghost
*Ice Cannon
*Infernal Engine
*Jumbo Cannon
*Land Armor
*Large Armor
*Leechgrave/Tentaclaw
*Living Pod
*Lurk Lizard
*Massive Possessor
*Mega-Shadow
*Novashadow
*Orcus
*Phantomtail
*Pink Concerto
*Poison Plant
*Powered Armor
*Rare Vendor
*Ruler of the Sky
*Sapphire Elegy
*Scarlet Tango
*Scorching Sphere
*Sergeant
*Skater Bomb
*Sky Grappler
*Snapper Dog
*Snowy Crystal
*Solid Armor
*Spiked Crawler
*Stalwart Blade
*Storm Bomb
*Striped Aria
*Switch Launcher
*Tailbunker
*Tricky Monkey
*Turquoise March
*Veil Lizard
*Wavecrest
*Windstorm
*Xion (Boss)
*Zip Slasher

===''Birth by Sleep''===
<!--Holding off on all Unversed etymologies until the English release.-->
*Arch Raven
*Axe Flapper
*Blue Sea-Salt
*Bruiser
*Buckle Bruiser
*Chest Spider
*Chrono Twister
*Cursed Carriage
*Flood
*Ice Colossus
*Iron Prisoner
*Irritable Tank
*Laser Bunny
*Jelly Ball
*Mad Treant
*Mandrake
*Mimic Master
*Monotracker
*Medicine Bottle
*Metamorphosis
*Prize Pot
*Red-Hot Chili
*Scrapper
*Shade Jelly
*Shoe Gazer
*Sonic Blaster
*Spring Loady
*Symphony Master
*Thorn Bite
*Vanitas's Sentiment
*Vile Face
*Wheel Master
*Wild Bruiser
*Yellow Mustard
''(Let's hold off on doing these guys until official names and such are out, okay guys?)''