Editing Game talk:Xemnas

From the Kingdom Hearts Wiki, the Kingdom Hearts encyclopedia
Jump to navigationJump to search
You are not logged in. Your IP address will be publicly visible if you make any edits. If you log in or create an account, your edits will be attributed to your username, along with other benefits.

The edit can be undone. Please check the comparison below to verify that this is what you want to do, and then publish the changes below to finish undoing the edit.

Latest revision Your text
Line 1: Line 1:
{{images|World of Nothingness's Second form and other parts of the ship}}
==Should==
==Should==
{{Xemnasmustdie|text=-Should we have a battle video for Xemnas while he is "Unknown"?-}}
{{Xemnasmustdie|text=-Should we have a battle video for Xemnas while he is "Unknown"?-}}
Line 85: Line 86:
::Actually, it's the name of the first "room" you fight Xemnas in while you still can have Donald and Goofy in your party. There're two different rooms. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 21:55, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
::Actually, it's the name of the first "room" you fight Xemnas in while you still can have Donald and Goofy in your party. There're two different rooms. [[User:Maggosh|mag]][[User talk:Maggosh|gosh]] 21:55, November 11, 2010 (UTC)
:::Huh, don't know how I missed this discussion... Anyway, cool. In-game coding is a damn good source.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}04:38, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
:::Huh, don't know how I missed this discussion... Anyway, cool. In-game coding is a damn good source.{{User:LapisScarab/Sig}}04:38, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is the discussion Kryten was refering to but to call any dragon form of Xemnas "World of Nothingness" is just wrong. No guide whether it be the Ultimania, Bradygames or Piggyback one calls him that and ingame it's just the room's name "虚無の世界" (used for both "The Empty Realm" and "The World of Nothing" not Nothingness by the way, which are most likely part of the [[Talk:Realm of Darkness#Realm of Darkness =/= Realm of Nothingness|realm of nothingness]] and probably where this confusion stems from). {{USer:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 21:11, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
::Doesn't the Ultimania still call it a giant Nobody, at least? It seems silly for it to just be a robot.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:02, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
:::I had [http://www.mediafire.com/download/cj6utn6z9zuv0d7/Kingdom_Hearts_II_Xemnas.zip these pages] linked before I think<!--The password is "awesomexemnasisawesome"-->. I'm not sure about the description in the text but the name at the top shows the "other" category for "Xemnas (Dragon)" instead of nobody like it's done for the first and second form. {{USer:ShardofTruth/Sig}} 16:06, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
::::What Shard said. The only name it has ever officially had is "Xemnas (Dragon)" and there's nothing that says it's an individual Nobody. (From my subjective viewpoint, it doesn't even look like one; it looks like it's made from the Castle That Never Was.) [[User:Pink Agaricus|Pink Agaricus]] ([[User talk:Pink Agaricus|talk]]) 01:33, 29 October 2013 (UTC)


== What happened?! ==
== What happened?! ==
Line 111: Line 108:


{{Mechajin|text=I don't see any tabs for him. I see his Normal form tab, his data rematch tab, and his world of nothingness tab, within his normal form tab I see "Xemnas" "Unknown" and "Armored Controller" tabs. But none for Final. :/}}
{{Mechajin|text=I don't see any tabs for him. I see his Normal form tab, his data rematch tab, and his world of nothingness tab, within his normal form tab I see "Xemnas" "Unknown" and "Armored Controller" tabs. But none for Final. :/}}
There are to stats fot his "normal" form. The second one is for the last fight.--'''[[User:Dark-EnigmaXIII|<font color=black><big>Dark-En</big>]][[User talk:Dark-EnigmaXIII|<font color=gray><big>igmaXIII</big>]]</font></font> 14:04, 27 June 2011 (EDT)
:I believe the Final Form stats are included in the normal Xemnas infobox. There should be a paramater for adding an alternate image; please ask Neumannz or DTN to fill it in, after checking that those are indeed the correct stats for Final Form. The KHII guide is needed.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 03:00, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
== KHFM Canon ==
Is the battle between the Engimatic Man and Sora in ''Kingdom Hearts Final Mix'' canon to the series, even though it is never mentioned or spoken of again? --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 20:08, 20 July 2011 (EDT)
:....yeaahhhh, seeing as it's the first thing Xemnas talks about to Roxas on the beach.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 20:53, 20 July 2011 (EDT)
::Oh right right right. Sometimes I try to forget ''Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days'' ever happened. Y'know, with the weak protagonist and story and all. Thanks much, Koro. --{{User:DoorToNothing/Sig}} 21:00, 20 July 2011 (EDT)
== KHFM Fight Requirements ==
{{TobiasHawk
|time=18:56, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
|text=Shouldn't there be details on how to unlock the battle with him in Final Mix?
}}
:All you have to do is watch the first cutscene at End of the World. [[User:Pink Agaricus|Pink Agaricus]] ([[User talk:Pink Agaricus|talk]]) 19:07, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
{{TobiasHawk
|time=19:09, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
|text=Seriously? That is it? I'll do that when I get home. Thanks!
}}
:I'm not sure where to put this in the article, (perhaps put space in the infobox) but why isn't this in the article yet? {{User:Chainoffire/sig}} 01:31, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
::Because no one has added it, I guess. Go ahead.{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 16:34, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
==Scripted battle?==
{{TNE|time=12:14, 7 May 2015 (UTC)|attntext=I am struggling to beat normal Xemnas at Level 93. His final form a.k.a. True Xemnas, to be specific. But while going through this fight, I've noticed something very, ''very fishy'' about it:
You know the part where Sora and Riku have to defeat Xemnas together while he is in his armour, ''after'' taking out the massive Dragoon? Well, it's a scripted battle. Hear me out here:
Imagine you are playing this at Level 93.
For starters, being overlevelled is going to be a massive ''hindrance'' to this fight because, if you're like me and you have the best Keyblades and the best amounts of Strength and Defence that are so totally going to wipe out any enemy in just a mere few hits, you'll discover something really bad: '''''you can only inflict X amount of damage at a time, within a specific time frame, to Armoured Xemnas in this form'''''.
What I mean to say is, there is a specific time frame between the beginning of each little phase of the battle, and Xemnas pushing Sora and Riku out into the void. You can only do a specific amount of damage at a time, which is probably going to be one bar and a bit, tops. Try to inflict any more, and you'll find that your Keyblade passes right through him; you're attacking, but you're not doing any damage whatsoever. This leaves you wide open for attack. What's worse is that if you have Berserk Charge, it is effectively useless and leaves you like a f***ing sitting duck, and every hit he does is going to take ''half your HP off'', forcing you to use up your items more quickly. This happens ''all throughout this particular part of the fight''.
The other reason as to why I find it is a scripted battle is because Xemnas ''has'' to push Sora and Riku into the void ''twice''. Whatever level you're in, whether you're in Level 70 or Level 99, you can't do too much damage to him and make him skip those segments where he pushes Sora and Riku into the void. You just can't. It's annoying, it's dickish, but that's how it is.}}
{{KrytenKoro|this is definitely true; I didn't realize we didn't already acknowledge it. One time, he failed to launch me, so I actually flew away into the void and piddleparted around for a while before his AI caught and started to fight again.
As for Berserk Charge, I suggest using Session when you get magic back, as it counts as finishers.}}
{{TNE|time=14:29, 7 May 2015 (UTC)|text=My main trouble isn't so much finishing him off as Armoured Xemnas, but rather, finishing True Xemnas off. Session has nearly always missed for me because for some reason, Sora and Riku just get too far, or Xemnas gets too far. And by the time I need items to count, I'd have already run out of them......
Riku doesn't heal you, either. 7 Hi-Potions get loaded onto his pockets at the start of the True Xemnas fight and before he even uses a single one, you're out of items and out of HP.
Since that fight where I struggled with True Xemnas, I've gotten the Ultima Weapon, which has MP Hastega (AT LAST). But I'm honestly not sure what else I could use to make this fight a lot less of an annoyance.
As for Armoured Xemnas being scripted: I'm not quite sure how to put it in; I'd like to put it into the article, but there's no mention of fighting Armoured Xemnas for the second time with only Sora and Riku...}}
==Laser cylinder damage==
{{TNE|time=21:15, 20 January 2016 (UTC)|attntext=Has anyone been ballsy enough to try getting hit with the laser generators from the first part of the Armoured Xemnas fight, and see how much damage it does? If yes,
*how much HP does it actually chip off?
*does it ignore Reflect if you cast it up?
*does it ignore Second Chance and Once More or any similar ability?}}
When you say "laser generators", what do you mean? [[User:Rex Ronald Rilander|Rex Ronald Rilander]] ([[User talk:Rex Ronald Rilander|talk]]) 04:29, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
:Those things that charge up and then you have to do Stunt Dodge to avoid them... '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 14:26, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
::I think it just causes Game Over. {{User:TheFifteenthMember/Sig1}} 10:07, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
:::It's called Wave Cannon; it's typeless (or "neutral" if you prefer that term) and has a ×6.0 modifier on each hit. Ignores Reflect but does not ignore Once More. {{User:Ultima Spark/Sig}} 14:58, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Oh wow, thanks for that! So that means, with Once More equipped, I can take damage from the Wave Cannon once, and then stick with one HP left? (Of course, that's not going to be something I would dare try, considering the amount of Bomb Bells that spawn in the area.) '''[[User:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#222222">TRS</font>]][[User talk:Troisnyxetienne|<font color="#444444">NX</font>]]''' 15:27, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
== Gummi-type enemies ==
The tabs for the gummi-type enemies do not operate under the gummi mechanics, so they should use the Enemy template instead. This will remove Game:Xemnas from the Gummi Nobody category, in which it does not belong. Does anyone have the regular mechanics stats?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 11:08, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
:Actually, since they have their own pages, should we just remove the infoboxes for them on this page?{{User:KrytenKoro/Sig}} 02:54, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
{{OpenTalk}}
== Techniques ==
{{Atk-o|KH1}}
{{Atk|'''Spark Wall'''
|Thunder
|x0
|6
|Blockable (Recoil:100)
|
}}
{{Atk-m|{{nihongo|'''Counter Attack'''|カウンター攻撃|<br>Kauntā Kougeki}}
|(righthand blade)
|Thunder
|x0
|6
|Blockable (Recoil:100)
|
|
|(kick)
|None
|x0
|6
|Blockable (Recoil:100)
|(lefthand blade)
|None
|x0
|8
|Blockable (Recoil:100)
}}
{{Atk|'''Spark Bomb'''
|Thunder
|—
|10
|—
|
}}
{{Atk-m|'''Spark Shot'''
|(blue)
|Thunder
|—
|6
|—
|
|
|(red)
|Thunder
|—
|8
|—
}}
{{Atk-m|{{nihongo|'''Dual-wielding Attack'''|二刀流攻撃|<br>Nitouryū Kougeki}}
|(blade)
|Thunder
|x0
|10
|Blockable (Recoil:100)
|
|
|(kick)
|None
|x0
|10
|Blockable (Recoil:100)
|(finish)
|Thunder
|x0
|10
|Blockable (Recoil:100)
}}
{{Atk-m|'''Laser Shower'''
|(main)
|Thunder
|—
|12
|—
|
|
|(sphere)
|Thunder
|x0
|10
|Blockable (Recoil:100)
}}
{{Atk-m|{{nihongo|'''Invitation to Nothingness'''|無へのいざない|<br>Mu e no Izanai}}
|(main)
|Dark
|—
|—
|—<!--(reference text);(本文を参照)-->
|
|
|(Shock)
|Dark
|—
|6
|—
}}
{{Atk-c}}
{{Atk-o|KH2}}
{{Atk|'''Spark Wall'''
|Physical<!--Thunder in KH2FM Ultimania-->
|0.5
|
|△
|Forms a wall before himself that repels attacks.
}}
{{Atk-m|{{nihongo|'''Combo Attack'''|連続攻撃|<br>Renzoku Kougeki|lit. "Continuous Attack"}}
|(slash)
|Physical
|1.0<br>0.75 (2nd hit+)
|
|△
|Slashes to the right, kicks, then slashes to the left.
|
|(kick)
|Physical
|0.5<br>0.25 (2nd hit+)
|
|△
}}
{{Atk-m|{{nihongo|'''Two-Sword Attack'''|二刀流攻撃|<br>Nitouryū Kougeki|lit. "Dual-wielding Attack"}}
|(slash)
|Physical
|1.0
|
|△
|Uses a dual-wielding style to unleash slashes and kicks like he was dancing.
|
|(kick)
|Physical
|0.5<br>0.25 (2nd hit+)
|
|△
}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Invitation to Nothingness'''|無へのいざない|<br>Mu e no Izanai}}
|None
|1 HP per 0.7 s, down to 1 HP
|
|X
|Engulfs Sora in the power of nothingness, continuously inflicting damage.
}}
{{Atk-m|{{nihongo|'''Building Fall'''|ビル落下攻撃|<br>Biru Rakka Kougeki|lit. "Building Fall Attack"}}
|(slash & kick)
|Physical
|0.5
|
|X
|Attacks five times with slashes and kicks, then inflicts additional damage on Sora while falling.
|
|(added)
|Physical
|1.0
|
|X
}}
{{Atk-c}}
{{Atk-o|KH2}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Building Toss Attack'''|ビル突き上げ攻撃|<br>Biru Tsukiage Kougeki}}
|Physical
|1.5<br>0.25 (2nd hit+)
|
|△
|Tosses a building from the roadside.
}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Building Drop Attack'''|ビル落下攻撃|<br>Biru Rakka Kougeki}}
|Physical
|1.5
|
|△
|Drops a floating building.
}}
{{Atk-c}}
{{Atk-o|KH2}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Wave Cannon'''|波動砲|Hadou Hou}}
|None
|6.0
|
|X
|Fires an absurdly powerful beam.
}}
{{Atk-c}}
{{Atk-o|KH2}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Stab'''|突き|Tsuki}}
|Physical
|2.0
|
|△
|Stabs with Xemnas (Dragon Form)'s gigantic claws.
}}
{{Atk-c}}
{{Atk-o|KH2}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Sweep Away'''|なぎ払い|Nagiharai|lit. "Mow Down"}}
|Physical
|2.0<br>0.1 (2nd hit+)
|
|X
|Mows the opponent down with the sword in his right hand.
}}
{{Atk|'''Spark Wall'''
|Thunder
|1.5<br>0.25 (2nd hit+)
|
|X
|Forms a wall before himself that repels attacks.
}}
{{Atk-m|{{nihongo|'''Spear Attack'''|ヤリ攻撃|<br>Yari Kougeki|lit. "Lance Attack"}}
|(1st stage)
|Physical
|1.0<br>0.2 (2nd hit+)
|
|△
|Rains the Lindworms on the opponent one by one, then turns and drops them all at once.
|
|(2nd stage)
|Physical
|1.0
|
|△
}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Chakram Attack'''|チャクラム攻撃|<br>Chakuramu Kougeki}}
|Physical
|1.0<br>0.3 (2nd hit+)
|
|△
|Attacks the opponent with the flame-clad Eternal Flames.
}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Water Form'''|水の分身攻撃|<br>Mizu no Bunshin Kougeki|lit. "Water Clone Attack"}}
|Blizzard
|1.0
|
|△
|Has the water clones shower the opponent with blows from the lower part of a musical note.
}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Card Attack'''|カード攻撃|<br>Kādo Kougeki}}
|Physical
|0.25
|
|△
|Cuts apart the opponent with the Fair Game turned sideways.
}}
{{Atk-m|{{nihongo|'''Large Sword Attack'''|大剣攻撃|<br>Taiken Kougeki}}
|(shock wave)
|None
|1.0
|
|X
|Drops his gigantic sword, emitting a shock wave and an explosion.
|
|(explosion)
|None
|0.5<br>0.25 (5th hit+)
|
|X
}}
{{Atk|'''Shot'''
|None
|0.25
|
|O
|Rapidly fires seven shots from the Sharpshooters.
}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Building Attack'''|ビル攻撃|<br>Biru Kougeki}}
|Physical
|2.0<br>0.25 (2nd hit+)
|
|△
|Hurls a building.
}}
{{Atk|'''Laser'''
|None
|1.0<br>0.1 (2nd hit+)
|
|X
|Fires ten red lasers aimed at Sora.
}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Magic Laser'''|魔法陣レーザー|<br>Mahoujin Rēzā|lit. "{{w|Magic Square}} Laser"}}
|None
|1.0<br>0.1 (2nd hit+)
|
|X
|Fires a laser from a magic square in the sky.
}}
{{Atk|'''Shield Shock'''
|None
|1.5
|
|X
|Blows away anything which touches his shield.
}}
{{Atk-c}}
{{Atk-o|KH2}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Magic Laser'''|魔法陣レーザー|<br>Mahoujin Rēzā|lit. "{{w|Magic Square}} Laser"}}
|None
|0.01<br>0 (2nd-6th hit)
|
|X
|Fires a laser from a magic square in the sky.
}}
{{Atk|'''Missile'''
|None
|0.5<br>0.25 (2nd hit+)
|
|X
|Fires a massive amount of missiles at Sora.
}}
{{Atk-c}}
{{Atk-o|KH2}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Explosion'''|爆発|Bakuhatsu}}
|None
|0.5<br>0.25 (2nd hit+)
|
|X
|Moves close to Sora, then explodes.
}}
{{Atk-c}}
{{Atk-o|KH2}}
{{Atk|'''Shot'''
|None
|0.5<br>0.25 (2nd hit+)
|
|X
|Rapidly fires three violet shots.
}}
{{Atk-c}}
{{Atk-o|KH2}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Tracking Laser'''|追尾レーザー|Tsuibi Rēzā}}
|None
|0.5<br>0.25 (2nd hit+)
|
|X
|Fires a soaring laser aimed at Sora.
}}
{{Atk-c}}
{{Atk-o|KH2}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Blade Attack'''|ブレード攻撃|Burēdo Kougeki}}
|Physical
|1.5
|
|X
|Slashes with his blades. The types of slash vary.
}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Thorn Beam'''|イバラビーム|Ibara Bīmu}}
|None
|0.25
|
|X
|Fires thorn-shaped beams.
}}
{{Atk|'''Kick'''
|Physical
|1.5
|
|△
|Attacks with roundhouse kicks and foot sweeps, then performs a somersault kick.
}}
{{Atk|'''Shot'''
|Thunder
|0.25
|
|△
|Arranges Interdictions in the air, then fires them.
}}
{{Atk|'''Spark Bomb'''
|Dark
|1.5
|
|X
|Fires two exploding spheres of light.
}}
{{Atk|'''Spark Wall'''
|Thunder
|1.0
|
|X
|Forms a wall before himself that repels attacks.
}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Multi Shot'''|全方位ショット|Zenhoui Shotto|lit. "Omnidirectional Shot"}}
|Thunder
|0.25
|
|△
|Arranges countless Interdictions into a dome, then fires.
}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Bind Attack'''|拘束攻撃|Kousoku Kougeki}}
|None
|1 HP per 1.1 s
|
|X
|Binds Sora, continuously inflicting damage.
}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Weapon Drop'''|武器落とし攻撃|Buki Otoshi Kougeki|lit. "Weapon Drop Attack"}}
|Physical
|3.0
|
|X
|Knocks away Sora's Keyblade, then continuously slashes at Sora and Riku.
}}
{{Atk-c}}
{{Atk-o|DDD}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Dual-wielding Attack'''|二刀流攻撃|<br>Nitouryū Kougeki}}<br>''Attack''
|Physical
|0.8 (per hit)
|
|O
|Equips Interdictions in his left and right hands, then swings them and unleashes roundhouse kicks with various movements.<!--左右の手に武器を備え,さまざまな動作で武器を振ったりまわし蹴りを放ったりする-->
}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Flying Dual-blades'''|飛翔ニ刀|<br>Hishou Nitou}}<br>''Attack''
|Physical
|0.8 (per hit)
|
|O
|Equips Interdictions in his left and right hands, charges at low altitude in a gliding style, then swings them.<!--左右の手に武器を備え,低空をすべるように突進したあと武器を振りまわす-->
}}
{{Atk|'''Shot'''<br>''Magic''
|Physical
|0.4 (per hit)
|
|△
|
}}
{{Atk|'''Spark Wall'''<br>''Attack''
|None
|0
|
|X
|
}}
{{Atk|{{nihongo|'''Building Throw'''|ビル投げ|<br>Biru Nage}}<br>''Attack''
|None
|1.0 (per hit)
|
|△
|
}}
{{Atk-c}}
== Zantetsuken invincible? ==
Not sure if I should also discuss this on the Zantetsuken page, but for some reason in Everglow's battle vs. Xemnas in 1.5 ReMIX in English Proud Mode, Zantetsuken seems to have invincibility frames that often allow him to safely land it as it comes out. However, this property seems to wear off when he reaches his ultimate attack phase, and when it starts getting harder to make him flinch outside of after his ultimate attack. --[[User:SneaselSawashiro|SneaselSawashiro]] ([[User talk:SneaselSawashiro|talk]]) 20:43, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
== Unknown -> Mysterious Man ==
English-language trophy lists for KHFM give the "Unknown" as the "Mysterious Man", which happens to fit better with the Japanese term given here. Are there any official English materials which take precedence over this? [[User:TJF588|TJF588]] ([[User talk:TJF588|talk]]) 09:23, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
:The literal in-game journal. {{User:UnknownChaser/Sig}} 17:32, 9 December 2020 (UTC)

Please note that all contributions to the Kingdom Hearts Wiki are considered to be released under the Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license (see KHWiki:Copyrights for details). If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, then don't submit it here. You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource. Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!

Cancel Editing help (opens in new window)
Below are some commonly used wiki markup codes. Simply click on what you want to use and it will appear in the edit box above.

View this template

Templates used on this page:

Retrieved from "https://www.khwiki.com/Game_talk:Xemnas"