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| There may be connections between them or not. So what if I can't come up with an explanation? There could be an explanation. I just can't figure it out. Nomura didn't recycle his designs. He based new characters on the old character designs: Like Lightning from FF13 and Cloud. Besides, characters like Reno and Zack aren't in Kingdom Hearts, for now anyway. So, there doesn't have to be an connection. BUT Xion and Aqua are in Kingdom Hearts. So there has to be a connection. It doesn't matter that there is little information on the Unbirths. What we're talking about RIGHT NOW is Aqua, Xion, and Kairi and the connection between them. Although, there is a good chance that at least one of the Chasers is an Unbirth. [[User:Augment96|Augment96]] 03:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC) | | There may be connections between them or not. So what if I can't come up with an explanation? There could be an explanation. I just can't figure it out. Nomura didn't recycle his designs. He based new characters on the old character designs: Like Lightning from FF13 and Cloud. Besides, characters like Reno and Zack aren't in Kingdom Hearts, for now anyway. So, there doesn't have to be an connection. BUT Xion and Aqua are in Kingdom Hearts. So there has to be a connection. It doesn't matter that there is little information on the Unbirths. What we're talking about RIGHT NOW is Aqua, Xion, and Kairi and the connection between them. Although, there is a good chance that at least one of the Chasers is an Unbirth. [[User:Augment96|Augment96]] 03:50, 3 February 2009 (UTC) |
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| Boy have you got it wrong XD.
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| You can come up with so many theories and you'd still be far from right. In addition, it was never implied or stated that Xehanort's Heartless gained a human form from consuming hearts. A Heartless' form is determined by the original person's darkness in their own hearts such as the case of Riku and Scar. While Zexion's demonstration was a mere illusion, it'd be hard to argue that in the case that Riku DID turn into a Heartless, he would have been a Darkside. It does matter of the amount of info we have and most of the time, baseless theories seem to be spawning out of nowhere. We do not know what exactly are Unbirths and if they could take on human forms, we wouldn't even know what's needed to do so, what they feed on and whatnot. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 04:09, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
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| I don't care!!!!!!!! The point of a theory is to answer questions. And you never know. I could be right. No way to tell for now. Besides, what's your theory? What do you think is going to happen in Birth by Sleep? Xenahort's heartless is different from other heartless. It's the exception to the rule. So, my theory could still be right. A heartless can change and does change when it consumes hearts. Look at Xenahort before he possessed Riku and then after he possessed Riku. He changed his form even though he didn't consume hearts. Although, he probably changed forms because he took Riku's body and changed it to look like his old body. Riku didn't have a heartless. Who knows that Riku would turn into if he became a heartless? I know the information matters. But new information won't be coming for a while. If Heartless can take human forms and Nobodies can take human forms, Unbirths can definitely take human forms. What the Unbirth feed on and stuff like that, I don't know. But I can come up with a new theory to answer that question. [[User:Augment96|Augment96]] 04:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
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| Question is: How do YOU know if Unbirths can take on human form? Bein' the opposite of life, they probably can't do so. A Nobody is pretty much a person lacking a heart and their strength is determined by the original person's willpower. A Heartless however, their form is determined by the darkness in their hearts. Stronger the darkness, the more powerful it is. One who fully embraces the darkness has the ability to take on human form similar to how a Nobody's form differs on the strength of the person's will, thus they can take on human form as well. The question is, how can you explain or determine how Unbirths thrive and how would it explain Aqua, whom is the least we even know about in the first place?
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| How do you know that they can't? If Nobodies can and Heartless can, Unbirths can. As far as I know, there is no reason why Unbirths can't take on human form. Since they're the opposite of life, they shouldn't exist at all. But they do. So, I can assume that an Unbirth can take a human form. I thought that a Nobody's power is determined by the strength of the person's heart, not willpower. So, a Heartless won't change at all or become stronger if it consumes hearts? I don't think so. When Xenahort embraced the darkness, he lost his form but gained a lot of power. Xenahort "became" the darkness. He only got his human form beck by possessing a willing heart (Riku's). I think Xenahort's form was just a illusion, made to look like Xenahort. I do not know how Unbirths survive or what they feed on. Do you? If I want to believe that Aqua is an Unbirth, why can't I? Until the game comes out, you can't say I'm wrong. [[User:Augment96|Augment96]] 02:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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| I pretty much have every right to say yer wrong cause ya just might be XD It's definitely no illusion due to the fact that he actually resumes his humanoid form in Chain of Memories after his defeat at the hands of Sora in the first game, so it's no illusion, but a fixed form. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 04:13, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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| But I might be right. There's no way to know for sure until the game comes out. Well, I thought it was an illusion. But it doesn't explain why he looked like a phantom in the beginning of Kingdom Hearts. [[User:Augment96|Augment96]] 07:02, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
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| How come he take a slightly humanoid shape? Why didn't he just take his old form in the beginning of the game? [[User:Augment96|Augment96]] 02:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
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