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In ''Kingdom Hearts II'', Ice Cream was a slightly heartwarming cameo that was integrated into the plot as a password near the end. Silly, but it ''is'' a Disney-based game.

In ''Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days'', the plot revolved around Ice Cream, and it was the main source of Roxas's angst about Xion's death. Embarassing.

In ''Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep'', Ice Cream is used as the basis of the form-changing system which allows you to kill things faster, and it is used to form the ultimate weapon. Ludicrous.

Why hasn't anyone on the development staff stepped up, slapped Nomura, and screamed "Are you actively trying to destroy this series?!"[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 18:05, May 16, 2010 (UTC)


:Actually, if you think about it Roxas associates sharing Ice Cream with friendship, and because he could't share it with axel when left the organization, Xion was he only friend left.  --Evnyofdeath 18:10, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
::I understand exactly what the "context" was - the point is that ''Nomura chose to use it in that context''. He based the game on ice cream.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 18:20, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
{{neumannz|time=18:24, May 16, 2010 (UTC)|text=Because it's funny?

I think either you're kidding, or you're completely misreading the role of ice cream in Days. (I bet it's because of the line Roxas says before Xion disappears, isn't it. Geezis Craps! Everyone takes that line literally! It's a Japanese thing, people! Don't be so friggin literal!)

As for BBS, you don't ''have'' to use ice cream at all, you only need to play that damn minigame once and then you're done. And why shouldn't there be a Keyblade for it? It's exactly like Ultima Weapon in KH and KH2, a keyblade for completing an optional item creation activity. It's not really such a big deal that it's ice cream, is it?

In short, I think you're taking it too seriously.}}

Thank you Neumannz!! Finally someone else who gets it!
::Okay, to clarify - I'm not being entirely serious here, it's not a big deal. But it's still silly how much of the game is becoming ice cream. There's probably going to be ice cream enemies in the next game.[[User:KrytenKoro|<small>Glorious</small>]] [[User_talk:KrytenKoro|<small>CHAOS!</small>]] 18:40, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
{{neumannz|time=18:44, May 16, 2010 (UTC)|text=I have to say, I would find that hilarious.}}

I smell easy green....not surprising since this is from the same guy who killed off a flower girl in front of the main protagonist but can't seem to revive her with a Phoenix Down because for some reason the impossibly long sword kills her more than the giant lasers, sudden deep freezes, numerous poisons, explosions and infectious claw slashes a few minutes ago. [[User:Kaihedgie|Kaihedgie]] 21:13, May 16, 2010 (UTC)

{{Maggosh|text=Oh, for Christ's sake, Kryten, relax. If this bothers you so much, here's what you do; go buy a plane ticket to Japan, find Square's HQ, track down Nomura and shoot him yourself. That way, you would get arrested, and I get full satisfaction. Yee-hah.}}
{{KrytenKoro|emotion=murder|Well, I was just joking at first, but you're actually pretty convincing, Maggosh. I'll be back in a week.}}
{{BebopKate|time=03:37, May 17, 2010 (UTC)|text=I think ice cream plays a role because of the inherently nostalgic feelings it brings to most people.  Well, except the lactose-intolerant ones ... but I digress.  For most people growing up in western society and Japan, ice cream is a connection to youth and times of innocence.  It's no coincidence that women on TV commercials, sitcoms, and soaps who feel down symbolically go for the big tub o' Hagaan-Daaz to feel better.  Admittedly, Nomura seems to rely on it a bit much for shorthand, but still, he could have picked worse things to symbolize simpler times.  Think we would have thought the same of Ansem the Wise if he suddenly grabbed a fluffy teddy bear, for example?  Or if Roxas had cried over Xion because of a yo-yo?

Besides, this explains why all the characters start screaming when things don't go their way ... they've got an ice cream headache.}}
{{Khruler|text=really your whining over the ice cream wow aren't you special "Oh my god ice cream is going to kill us" somebody needs help}}
{{KrytenKoro|Are you serious? Can you not recognize a joke when you read one?}}
{{Auror Andrachome|text=Hehehehe! Funny joke!}}
{{neumannz|time=06:32, May 21, 2010 (UTC)|text=Clearly, we have a breakdown in communication. Looks like you'll have to start using the <nowiki><joke></joke></nowiki> or <nowiki><sarcasm></sarcasm></nowiki> tags, Kryten...}}
{{khruler|text=if that was a joke u maust have a bad sense of humor}}
{{KrytenKoro|Wow, you're really not going to let it go, are you?}}
{{Auror Andrachome|text=<joke>KrytenKoro is so funny! NOT!!!</joke>}}

Yup, Nomura is trying to **** up the series.  Apparently the story is that Nomura decided to try out Batman Forever on the SNES, and liking its gameplay and control scheme, decided to import some of its gameplay elements into the North American version of BBS.  The ice cream is just the icing of the cake...from what I also hear they're gonna change the controls so that up jumps, L1 attacks, x accesses your inventory, start interacts and square uses the menu.  Oh, and that also the third announced game is titled Kingdom Hearts Forever.  Truly sad...just sad...--[[User:Pkthis|Pkthis]] 00:42, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
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